Mason, you still here at FF?

[LadyShea]

I think you are getting bad advice at II from some bitter, materialistic people. I hope you will discuss your issues here, in what I consider a better environment. The people here seem to be more realistic and mature.

[Julie]

*nods* I aggree LS. There does seem to be a lot of bitter biased people offering up advice to Mason. It might be a good idea to get advice for more than one place to get a well rounded view.

[LadyShea]

That thing about carefully considering the possible loss of a swimming pool set me off. I have calmed down a bit now, but would like Mason to have more varied perspectives as well.

[Crumb]

Have you PMed him and pointed him over here?

[Puck]

It was the crap about how being female it was easier to start out life difficult was what set my teeth on edge. I went about the house looking for something to smack. That person has no clue.

Mace is smart, though, and he can filter out the crap well enough. He's also elsewhere online, and has older adults who have adopted him and encourage him to be self honest where he contributes to his own problems, and support him where he is right, or not to blame at all, etc. More than one of us would like to offer him shelter if he was over 16.

Perhaps he will come here, too, and find even more support.

[livius drusus]

It was the crap about how being female it was easier to start out life difficult was what set my teeth on edge.
Now, Puck, you can always just strip, donchaknow.

Whee! Being a girl is the easiest!
:strip:

Perhaps he will come here, too, and find even more support.
He's here (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/member.php?u=1300) already. Last online yesterday.

[RevDahlia]

That person has no clue.
That person also has assorted remotely-diagnosable personality disorders. Serious.

[Crumb]

So could I beg a link to this discussion?

[livius drusus]

Linky (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=179450).

[Crumb]

:kiss:

[LadyShea]

It was the crap about how being female it was easier to start out life difficult was what set my teeth on edge.
Now, Puck, you can always just strip, donchaknow.

Whee! Being a girl is the easiest!
:strip:



Yeah or find a man to take care of you because it's just so easy.

I went through all old threads where he and I conversed, and we flat out just don't see eye to eye.

Anyway, I think Mace is a basically good kid in a shitty situation and needs pragmatic advice.

[Beth]

Gee, I guess a girl can strip if she has the bod, otherwise she can always get into fetish porn, right?

Thanks for the link, liv. I agree, Brandi, he might be able to get better advice in here, but that thread was in a private subforum. I wonder if he feels comfortable about seeking advice in public?

[Sock Puppet]

That person also has assorted remotely-diagnosable personality disorders. Serious.Dumb as a box of rocks, for one.

[Crumb]

Dumb as a box of rocks, for one.
Is that in the DSM IV?

[livius drusus]

Yeah or find a man to take care of you because it's just so easy.

I went through all old threads where he and I conversed, and we flat out just don't see eye to eye.
Do you think the stripping comment was a dig at you?

[Beth]

Yeah or find a man to take care of you because it's just so easy.

I went through all old threads where he and I conversed, and we flat out just don't see eye to eye.
Do you think the stripping comment was a dig at you?
I personally got the impression that he was.
I saw some honestly stupid advise in that thread.

[livius drusus]

True that, Beth. I think you're right, btw, that Mason might not wish to raise the issue in a public forum, which is why it's a good thing to continue to avoid speaking of it directly until he chimes in.

[LadyShea]

Yeah or find a man to take care of you because it's just so easy.

I went through all old threads where he and I conversed, and we flat out just don't see eye to eye.
Do you think the stripping comment was a dig at you?

That's the weird thing. I don't think it was a "dig", I think he was stating it as a fact, a truth in his mind, with no malice behind it. I went through the old threads to see if there was serious animosity, and although we disagree a lot, it always remains civil and unemotional.

[RevDahlia]

I went through all old threads where he and I conversed, and we flat out just don't see eye to eye.
Probably because you are not crazy and have more than sixteen neurons.

(Stopping now, sorry.)

[Puck]

That person has no clue.
That person also has assorted remotely-diagnosable personality disorders. Serious.

Well, I was trying to be nice. Tactful, if you will. You know, what I generally fail quite miserably at. Of course, saying 'assorted remotely-diagnosable personality disorders' is just a nice way of saying they are a fucked up git, I suppose, so we's both trying to be nice. :D

Can I go kick him in the crotch? I've taken that up as a hobby. Kicking asshats in the crotch. I'm taking requests. At this age, I figure I can get by with it more than a younger person.

[viscousmemories]

Wow, there are so many bad ideas at play here it's spinning my head. But the two most prominent: I think it's a tremendously bad idea for a bunch of people (most of whom are probably not trained in mental health) to try to counsel a minor in a dysfunctional home environment on a public discussion board, and an equally bad idea for the Internet Infidels organization to explicitly condone it by way of providing a semi-private, moderated forum where it can take place. Still, the latter is only a lawsuit waiting to happen. The former could have a much more horrific outcome.

[MonCapitan2002]

It was the crap about how being female it was easier to start out life difficult was what set my teeth on edge.
Now, Puck, you can always just strip, donchaknow.

Whee! Being a girl is the easiest!
:strip:
That smilie is so fucking awesome. I have nothing else to say.

[MonCapitan2002]

That person has no clue.
That person also has assorted remotely-diagnosable personality disorders. Serious.
I see what you mean. I never realised how much of a fucking idiot he is.

[MonCapitan2002]

Wow, there are so many bad ideas at play here it's spinning my head. But the two most prominent: I think it's a tremendously bad idea for a bunch of people (most of whom are probably not trained in mental health) to try to counsel a minor in a dysfunctional home environment on a public discussion board, and an equally bad idea for the Internet Infidels organization to explicitly condone it by way of providing a semi-private, moderated forum where it can take place. Still, the latter is only a lawsuit waiting to happen. The former could have a much more horrific outcome.
Hmm. I never thought about it in that way. You do make a very good point. The IIDB could get into shitloads of trouble if things got out of hand.

[Dingfod]

Why? Court TV's Nancy Grace will never have to pay for driving that poor woman to suicide.

[viscousmemories]

To be clear I don't see anything at all wrong with offering him moral support or encouragement (in particular encouraging him to see a qualified counselor), I just don't think he should be brainstorming specific solutions to his personal life management issues with a group of anonymous, probably unqualified strangers on the Internet.

[Mason]

Cynical-Chick pointed me out to this thread, otherwise I never woulda found it. I'm not as active here as I am the other places.

But yeah, I haven't really done much the past two days--but they've been pretty good. Nothing out of hand. (The counselor has been gone for the past two days.)

I came very close to flaming that guy, but I decided not to--figuring maybe he was just trying to help in his own way of helping. Didn't really get his logical arguments of how it's easier for a woman to live simply by finding a man to take care of her, though. What the hell?

Visciousmemories also has a good point. Let's not get out the equipment for shock therapy right now, but at the risk of sounding egotistical I'll welcome any comments and practical advice--meaning some common advice, nothing extremely psychological--from any who have wisdom to share.

Thanks for the heads up and the support.

[godfry n. glad]

Well... Whatever it is, Puck is willing to do drive-by crotch kickings.

Now, everybody is so solicitous about the advice giving going on over at II. But you see, I'm hard banned from II, so I don't have the damnedest as to what the dysfunction is or the specific issue griped about.

So, count me a clueless.

What's goin' on?

[Mason]

It's not really that much of a trainwreck, just some minor disagreements. You know how IIDB can be, you could post a thread claiming that raping an infant was morally wrong, and someone would disagree with you.

That's probably one reason I keep posting there, though.

[MonCapitan2002]

Well... Whatever it is, Puck is willing to do drive-by crotch kickings.

Now, everybody is so solicitous about the advice giving going on over at II. But you see, I'm hard banned from II, so I don't have the damnedest as to what the dysfunction is or the specific issue griped about.

So, count me a clueless.

What's goin' on?
So your IP is blocked? I would agree that the thread is not a train wreck, though.

[MonCapitan2002]

It's not really that much of a trainwreck, just some minor disagreements. You know how IIDB can be, you could post a thread claiming that raping an infant was morally wrong, and someone would disagree with you.

That's probably one reason I keep posting there, though.
I would say anyone making such a claim is as big a scumbag as the rapist who did the deed.

[Puck]

Ah, godfry, just suggestions of violence and such and the one twit thinking that being a woman is easier because we can just get a man to support us or be a stripper.

Hey, I'll show my tits for 10,000! I'll show my hootchie for 100,000! See, it's so easy to be a woman. Never mind if I want a career in another field of work, never mind if we aren't the marrying type. Never mind if we dont' want to show our tits for a million. eh.

[lisarea]

Oh.

I thought we were mad because he was implying that Mason couldn't get a stripper job or a sugar daddy.

This other thing is bad, too.

[Mason]

Yes, it is--but let's not forget that two prime careers I would have liked to work in are now barred from me.