Things to do in Denver When You're Dead

[beyelzu]

"Buckweats," shouted the man with the plan.

"Buckweats for all of them?" quoth Mr. Shh.

"I want them fucking dead, dead, you hear? I don't want them to die so much as I want to them to convulse for a good hour as they pray for fucking death."


"Buckweats."




The blood runs when the money comes. The man with a plan crippled though he is, is still a big noise and everyone is a suspect and a possible target. The town wins when all of the man with a plan's people are dead. The man himself, although everyone knows who he is, is unhittable cuz his place has tighter security than Fort Knox.


possible roles

Jimmy the Saint from Flatbrush- went to seminary but lost his calling but in the day the bitchest bastard. Jimmy is the cop, he goes around trying to figure out who is working for the Man With the Plan.


Baby Sinister- another big noise, runs a black gang also a big noise like the man with the plan, he is the doc. he can protect one person every night but he won't protect the same person two nights in a row because he doesn't want to get into direct confrontation with the man with the plan.


Critical Bill- "they call him critical bill cuz back in the day he never went up against someone without putting them in critical condition at the least"

Franchise- tattooed and in it all cuz of Jimmy cuz they were friends back in the day.

Pieces Palmero- once danced the foxtrot with a thousand dollar a night hooker, has a skin condition, and a real stand up guy.

Easy Wind- still has some issues with Critical Bill from the time they were locked up together a very stand up guy though.

Mr. Shh- the deadliest killer west of the Mississippi, they call him Mr. Shh cuz he doesnt talk that much. "You can tell me where Earl Denton is, or you can tell the worms." All kills are made by mr shh so long as he is alive. afterwards kills are made by gus. Shhh is mafia

Bernard- the man with a plan's lunchy son. no special powers, votes with the town, he doesnt realize just how evil his father is.

Lt. Atwater- the man with the plan's corrupt cop, can investigate players to find out there role. But as he is a cop he counts towards the townie total although he votes with the man with the plan. Atwater is the witch.

Gus- the man with the plan's henchmen. Gus is mafia

pms are allowed only at nightfall, make the most of it.

I intend to send everyone a name, may be from the movie like the above list and may not. i dont want to make an easy name claim game.

Good luck guys.

[Leesifer]

Just checking in to say a quick "hello" to everybody.

I'll be away from the pc for a few hours soon but should be back later this evening (BST).

[Crumb]

cool, bey. Sounds like I need to watch this movie.

[beyelzu]

It really is a great movie and hopefully will be a fun game.

The gold glove hasnt been on since like the 16th, which could be a problem.

[MonCapitan2002]

Hmm. I smell a clue. I am also checking in. Hi all. :wave:

[Moxy]

Can we get an official player list too?

[beyelzu]

dont read too much into it, because of how long i took to actually start the game, i just hope everyone actually plays.

[Crumb]

The gold glove hasnt been on since like the 16th, which could be a problem.
I can buzz him.

[MonCapitan2002]

Then do so please. :)

[Legs]

I have not seen the movie so I don't have a click ~ and there's 100 clicks to a clue.

Hi to my fellow townies :wave:

greetings to the scum :noid:

[livius drusus]

That's a great opener, bey. I definitely need to watch the movie now. :nod:

So if these are just the possible roles, does that mean there may be more than the two scum you described?

[Spenser]

Morning all. I'm guessing above is the same Moxy from IIDB? I don't think you were drinking a Guinness in your profile pic over there...


Bey,

Shouldn't we have a list of who all is in the game?

[Moxy]

Yeah, same Moxy. I think I'd probably be completely broke if I ONLY drank Guinness. Have to go for cheaper beers that I can tolerate once in a while!

[Moxy]

This was the last posted list in the signup...

1. MonCapitan2002
2. Crumb
3. Spenser
4. Lees
5. Nightson
6. livius
7.Slim/Sou
8. TGG
9. Widget
10. Legsy
11. godfry n. glad
12. Moxy

[Spenser]

I am assuming this is like a typical Mafia game so

Random Vote: MonCapiton2002

[godfry n. glad]

Well, I'm here, and I vote: Moxy. Just for the halibut.

[beyelzu]

That's a great opener, bey. I definitely need to watch the movie now. :nod:

So if these are just the possible roles, does that mean there may be more than the two scum you described?

for clarity.

2 mafia, one cop and/or one doc and/or one witch.

[beyelzu]

This was the last posted list in the signup...

1. MonCapitan2002
2. Crumb
3. Spenser
4. Lees
5. Nightson
6. livius
7.Slim/Sou
8. TGG
9. Widget
10. Legsy
11. godfry n. glad
12. Moxy

yep that is the list i used. we will have to wait to see which of slim and sou show up.

[Moxy]

Well, I'm here, and I vote: Moxy. Just for the halibut.

I guarantee that's a wasted vote...unless you're mafia of course.

[Spenser]

Moxy usually turns up being a vampire, and I don't think there are any of those this game... :vampire:

[livius drusus]

we will have to wait to see which of slim and sou show up.
Didn't slim post that Sou was too busy working so it would definitely be him? I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm sure enough to cast my randomday1vote for him.

vote: slimshady2357

[Widget]

Just checking in, Evnin all.

[Crumb]

My random vote:livius drusus :kiss:

[livius drusus]

:unglare:

[slimshady2357]

Yes, it's me that will be playing. I did post that in the other thread, well sort-of remembered liv.

Not much to say at this point, but I'll spread out the random votes some more.

vote Legs

[beyelzu]

vote tally

1. MonCapitan2002-1 - spenser
2. Crumb-
3. Spenser-
4. Lees-
5. Nightson-
6. livius- 1 - crumb
7.Slim/Sou- 1 - livius drusus
8. TGG-
9. Widget-
10. Legsy- 1 - slimshady
11. godfry n. glad-
12. Moxy-1 - godfry

[Crumb]

:woopsie:

[Spenser]

How many to lynch?

[beyelzu]

7 to lynch, simple majority.

[livius drusus]

Hey bey, number 7 on the list should be just slim now.

[Legs]

Vote: slim/sou simply based on retaliation


1. MonCapitan2002-1 - spenser
2. Crumb-
3. Spenser-
4. Lees-
5. Nightson-
6. livius- 1 - crumb
7.Slim/Sou- 2 - livius drusus, Legs
8. TGG-
9. Widget-
10. Legsy- 1 - slimshady
11. godfry n. glad-
12. Moxy-1 - godfry

[livius drusus]

What the... ? Legs, did you mean to paste the entire thread into your post? :?

ETA: Oops. We cross-edited. Nevahmind.

[Legs]

I have no idea what happened :rush:

[Spenser]

Also, what is this PMs allowed at nightfall? Is this for Mob/Cop/Doc/Witch characters to you or anyone can PM anyone?

[beyelzu]

anyone can pm anyone during nightfall.

i like the pm dynamic i dont like that it kills the thread.

it can be useful for both sides in this game setup so im allowing it.

[beyelzu]

oh and just to be completely clear, normal rules apply as to quoting pms from me.

[livius drusus]

Wait, what rules are those?

/me has never played a PMing game.

[Nightson]

Wait, what rules are those?

* livius drusus has never played a PMing game.

Normal rule being don't do it, only paraphrasing allowed.

Hello everyone. :wave:

Random vote: Crumb

[thegoldglove07]

Alright, I'm here. Crumb, don't mind my email. I'll be away tonight, but just letting everyone know I'm here. By the way. I'm a freaking townie, once again. :sad:

[Legs]

Hi GoldenGlove, ol' buddy, ol' pal :wave:

[livius drusus]

Normal rule being don't do it, only paraphrasing allowed.
Wotcha, Nightson. :thankee:

[Nightson]

Normal rule being don't do it, only paraphrasing allowed.
Wotcha, Nightson. :thankee:

No problem, and of course people remember, don't trust people. Unless you're a cop and you got an innocent result on somebody, you do not know a person's alignment. Trying to figure out roles is called fishing, it's a scum tactic because it allows them to control or take out the power roles.

[MonCapitan2002]

I think that is good advice.

[Widget]

Alright, I'm here. Crumb, don't mind my email. I'll be away tonight, but just letting everyone know I'm here. By the way. I'm a freaking townie, once again. :sad:

Being as your "out" and you won't read this then I will vote for you.


Vote TGG

[Nightson]

I think that is good advice.

It is indeed, in fact if someone is probing for information via PMs, report it in the main thread when day breaks.

Also

Alright, I'm here. Crumb, don't mind my email. I'll be away tonight, but just letting everyone know I'm here. By the way. I'm a freaking townie, once again.

*thwaps fingers*

Don't claim. You should never claim unless the town intends to lynch you.

Basically, if your a power role don't claim townie because it can get you lynched for lying later.

If you're a townie, claiming townie helps the scum to narrow down the power roles.

Therefore claiming, while not being under any pressure to claim, even claiming townie, is not good for the town.

The only protown roles that might consider claiming before hand are the cop and the vig. Cop based on investigative results and vig based on if he thinks claiming would really help the town (I imagine this would be rare).

[MonCapitan2002]

I would not claim even if I was on the verge of a lynching.

[Legs]

I think this is correct

MonCapitan2002 -1 - Spenser
Crumb- 1 - Nightson
Spenser
Lees
Nightson
livius - 1 - Crumb
slimshady - 2 - livius drusus, Legs
TGG - 1 - Widget
Widget
Legsy- 1 - slimshady
godfry n. glad
Moxy -1 - godfry

[beyelzu]

Wait, what rules are those?

* livius drusus has never played a PMing game.

Normal rule being don't do it, only paraphrasing allowed.

Hello everyone. :wave:

Random vote: Crumb


that is correct nightson,

dont quote or forward my pms to anyone.

[Nightson]

I would not claim even if I was on the verge of a lynching.

If you are close to being lynched and asked by people to claim you should claim. If you're townie it won't make much difference but you might as well claim. If you're a power role and you don't claim under threat of lynch you're severely hurting the town.

As the other side of this, absolutely no one should be lynched without them being given a chance to defend themselves and claim if nessecary.

[Nightson]

As the other side of this, absolutely no one should be lynched without them being given a chance to defend themselves and claim if necessary

I'll elaborate some:

It starts off with someone (We'll call him X) doing something pretty scummy, or doing lots of little scummy things, enough scummy stuff to make a majority of people consider lynching him. People should point out the scummy stuff he did and vote. X should try to explain his actions as best he can, but we'll say the town doesn't find his defense particularly believable. Once he reaches five votes (using 7 to lynch as it is now, but basically lynch-2 if it's high enough or lynch-1 if you've lost enough people), once he reaches 5 nobody should vote him, this prevents the ability of the scum to quick lynch. Once two people have confirmed their willingness to vote him, then it's time for X to make his final defense and claim. If you're a power role you don't have to put much work into your defense, and make sure to claim even if you're the doctor who's going to die that night, you claiming gives the town chance to lynch scum. If you're a townie put your effort into explaining why your actions aren't scummy, and this is important too, put some effort into explaining why someone else is a better choice for a lynch (make sure not to OMGUS here). After that, X has done his duty, it's up to the town to decide whether they believe him or not.

[Moxy]

Or it could just be that TGG is mafia and was claiming townie to lay the groundwork for his "innocence."

[Legs]

Lt. Atwater- the man with the plan's corrupt cop, can investigate players to find out there role. But as he is a cop he counts towards the townie total although he votes with the man with the plan. Atwater is the witch.

Can someone please explain this? :dopey: he counts as a townie? but he votes with the mafia? :scratch:

[beyelzu]

yes, lt atwater investigates people like the cop does and wins with the mafia but lt atwater does not count as mafia for victory conditions

so if atwater is the last baddy alive the town wins.

it helps the mafia slightly, also lt atwater does not know who the mafia is until he successfully investigates one. so the role can be something of a wildcard.

[slimshady2357]

Is there any kind of time limits on this game? Or are we just going to wait until someone has a majority of votes before each nightfall?

I shoud really watch this movie, so I can get into the lingo :D

[beyelzu]

Yes you should watch the movie it fucking rules.

No time limits are in place, but I am reserving the right to impose one if the day drags for quite awhile and there doesnt seem to be much useful discussion going on.

[MonCapitan2002]

Is there any kind of time limits on this game? Or are we just going to wait until someone has a majority of votes before each nightfall?

I shoud really watch this movie, so I can get into the lingo :D
I think I can enjoy this game without knowing anything about the movie.

[Crumb]

Has everyone checked in?

[Crumb]

I'll answer my own question. Everyone has checked in, but Lees, TGG and godfry have only posted once.

[MonCapitan2002]

Maybe they are all scum? :shrug:

[Moxy]

Probably there's just not much to say at this point.

Really, you can just sit there and proclaim your innocence, randomly pick someone and vote to kill them off, come up with some kind of a plan that probably won't help, or be quiet.

I hate the first day.

[Crumb]

Maybe they are all scum?
I highly doubt it.
I hate the first day.
and how!

[livius drusus]

that is correct nightson,

dont quote or forward my pms to anyone.
:yessir:

Meanwhile, since my original randomvote slim has now posted, and since he has two votes against him, I'ma spread mine around a little.

unvote
vote: Leesifer

[MonCapitan2002]

I would vote you for flip-flopping like you did, but I like you so thou shall be spared.

[Crumb]

:nojustno: Changing a vote is not flip-flopping, and there is nothing wrong with flip-flopping.

[Legs]

I hate the first day too... it goes on forever and it eventually kills a townie :shrug:

[MonCapitan2002]

:nojustno: Changing a vote is not flip-flopping, and there is nothing wrong with flip-flopping.
Don't confuse the issue by making sense! :P It is too early for me to comfortably cast a vote so I shall hang back and read some more before deciding on who I should vote on.

[Legs]

You tried that last time MonCap, and you were lynched.

[Crumb]

Let's get him again! :whup:

[Legs]

Crumbles, you're all playful today :closehug:

[Crumb]

a bit :huggle:

[MonCapitan2002]

Let's get him again! :whup:
Leave me be! The game just started. I see no reason for you to lynch me.

[Crumb]

It was a joke.

[Legs]

:hoot:

[Moxy]

Thats the problem. No reason to lynch anyone today. I've never played one of these games with no PM's...it's already pretty different. Kind of hard to get any information to go on.

[Nightson]

unvote, vote: Moxy

Bandwagon time!

[Spenser]

Eventually some one does something that some one else thinks is 'suspicious' and gets lynched in a hurry only to find out they are usually a townie. Such is the first day...

[Legs]

Speaking of suspicious, godfry has been online and even posted an hour ago - but didn't check in here and say hello.

[Crumb]

unvote; vote: godfry

[Legs]

Can someone do the vote tally, I'm a little :rush:

[Spenser]

Sure but I'm posting it the original way:


1. MonCapitan2002 -
2. Crumb - Godfry
3. Spenser - MonCapitan
4. Lees -
5. Nightson - Moxy
6. livius - Lees
7.Slim/Sou - Legs
8. TGG -
9. Widget - TGG
10. Legsy - Slimshady
11. godfry n. glad - Moxy
12. Moxy -


Godfry = 1
MonCapitan = 1
Lees = 1
Legs = 1
TGG = 1
Slimshady = 1
Moxy = 2

[godfry n. glad]

Speaking of suspicious, godfry has been online and even posted an hour ago - but didn't check in here and say hello.

Hello.

Didja ever think I might have just missed it?

[Legs]

Yeah, I figured that was a possibility which is why I haven't voted for you.

[godfry n. glad]

Crumb is quite the eager to please type, eh?

[Legs]

Yes I was surprised he jumped on you like that... :noid:

[Nightson]

unvote, pressure vote: Less

Still waiting to hear from you Lees.

[godfry n. glad]

Yes I was surprised he jumped on you like that... :noid:

Obviously mesmerized by your latest avatar.

I can see how it might induce rash behavior.

[Nightson]

Renting the movie tomorrow btw

Talk more people.

[slimshady2357]

Looks like not too much happened last night.

Crumb is hyper though.

Nightson has been a little suspicious too... but what can you do on so little info? :shrug: Just keep switching votes? I don't know...

I'll just wait and see some more.

[Nightson]

Nightson has been a little suspicious too... but what can you do on so little info? :shrug: Just keep switching votes? I don't know...


Voting people can cause them to react. And often this reaction can be used to help identify someone as pro or anti town. Voting and brains are the towns primary tools, we need to use them if we want to find scum.

[MonCapitan2002]

Since Spenser voted for me, I shall vote in retaliation.

Vote: Spenser

[Crumb]

I had no reason to vote for liv. I had a small reason to vote for you. :shrug:

unvote; vote Moxy

[Legs]

Checking in - good morning :wave:

[livius drusus]

Where's Lees, durn it all? :onhold:

[slimshady2357]

Nightson has been a little suspicious too... but what can you do on so little info? :shrug: Just keep switching votes? I don't know...


Voting people can cause them to react. And often this reaction can be used to help identify someone as pro or anti town. Voting and brains are the towns primary tools, we need to use them if we want to find scum.

Um, ya. Thanks tips.

I wasn't talking about voting when I said you were suspicious. I've played with you before and there seems to be a marked change to how you're playing now, compared to then, when you were a townie. That's what I meant. It doesn't mean you're scum, but IMO it is suspicious.

[livius drusus]

What change do you see in Nightson's behavior, slim?

[slimshady2357]

What change do you see in Nightson's behavior, slim?

He's been much more vocal and much more plentiful with his helpful tips to the town. I'm not saying he hasn't been helpful in the past, but at the start he didn't ever post much at all.

I'm basing this on Nightson's posts 3, 4 and 5 (when you look at only Nightson's posts) and his past play.

Again, being helpful isn't bad, being vocal isn't bad, it's just a little suspicious to me when compared to past play.

[Legs]

I'm a little suspicious of liv unvoting slimshady after I voted for him. Maybe she is scum voting for one of her own to set the stage, but when I voted too it made her nervous.

[livius drusus]

Fair enough, slim. I seem to recall Nightson being helpful at this point in the game before, but I may well be tripping. I'll check it out.

Legs, it's a little early in the game for me to be quite that stupid. Two votes aren't scary at all when it takes 7 to lynch.

[Nightson]

What change do you see in Nightson's behavior, slim?

He's been much more vocal and much more plentiful with his helpful tips to the town. I'm not saying he hasn't been helpful in the past, but at the start he didn't ever post much at all.

I'm basing this on Nightson's posts 3, 4 and 5 (when you look at only Nightson's posts) and his past play.

Again, being helpful isn't bad, being vocal isn't bad, it's just a little suspicious to me when compared to past play.

Had to go back and look at deadwood to figure out what you were talking about but now I know. If it's a weekday I probably won't be on until late, if it's the weekend I'm pretty much in front of a computer all day. That's the difference, deadwood started during the week, this one started on the weekend.

[beyelzu]

Renting the movie tomorrow btw

Talk more people.
let me know what you think, no pressure but it is like my second favorite movie of all time.

:tmgrin:

[Legs]

2 votes can start a bandwagon, especially in the first day - when no one really has a good reason to vote.

[livius drusus]

True, but it's hardly a significant danger at this point. Meanwhile, spreading around votes to try to get people talking is pretty much standard operating procedure.

[Legs]

Yep, for both townies & scum.

[Moxy]

Do you guys have any reason at all for voting for me? Either you guys just have no idea who to vote for, or you're mafia trying to off a townie. That's what we had to do the first day in the roman game, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's what you were doing. I'm going to go ahead and vote based on this.

Vote: Crumb

I am definitely a townie, and I invite the cop to go ahead and view me or whatever. If the rest of you join this bandwagon, you're only hurting yourselves.

[Nightson]

Do you guys have any reason at all for voting for me? Either you guys just have no idea who to vote for, or you're mafia trying to off a townie. That's what we had to do the first day in the roman game, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's what you were doing. I'm going to go ahead and vote based on this.

Vote: Crumb

I am definitely a townie, and I invite the cop to go ahead and view me or whatever. If the rest of you join this bandwagon, you're only hurting yourselves.

Your very defensive for someone who only has two votes on them. You're OMGUSing too. Why are you so nervous about the possibility of getting lynched?

[Moxy]

Uh...because i want to keep playing? What kind of a question is that?

[Moxy]

And for what it's worth, I have 3 votes against me, I only asked what the reasons are for that.

What the hell is "OMGUSing"?

[Nightson]

And for what it's worth, I have 3 votes against me, I only asked what the reasons are for that.

What the hell is "OMGUSing"?

I count Crumb's vote and godfry's vote. Godfry's vote was random, and Crumb didn't state any reasons. You're being overdefensive about the votes. OMGUSing stands for Oh My God U Suck, it's when you call someone scum/vote for them just because they find you suspicious or vote for you.

Being overdefensive is scummy, OMGUSing is scummy.

But, you didn't display any of this during the roman game so for metagame reasons I'm not willing to vote you yet, it does however get a FoS: Moxy

[Moxy]

I didn't see that you had unvoted me. I thought there were 3.

My mistake. I'll leave my vote for now, and see how it is going tomorrow.

[Crumb]

Either you guys just have no idea who to vote for
Of course we have no idea who tto vote for. It is the first day! The only ones who have any information are scum.

[MonCapitan2002]

And for what it's worth, I have 3 votes against me, I only asked what the reasons are for that.

What the hell is "OMGUSing"?

I count Crumb's vote and godfry's vote. Godfry's vote was random, and Crumb didn't state any reasons. You're being overdefensive about the votes. OMGUSing stands for Oh My God U Suck, it's when you call someone scum/vote for them just because they find you suspicious or vote for you.

Being overdefensive is scummy, OMGUSing is scummy.

But, you didn't display any of this during the roman game so for metagame reasons I'm not willing to vote you yet, it does however get a FoS: Moxy
What does that stand for? The FoS thing?

[livius drusus]

Finger of Suspicion. It's an "I've got my eye on you and my finger on the vote button" sort of thing.

[Legs]

Still no Lees :sadcheer:

[beyelzu]

lees pmed me and said that she had a migraine and may not be around much this weekend.

i told her it would be ok, cuz i figured there wouldnt be much action this weekend.

[Legs]

oh, poor Lees :leeshug:

[Crumb]

:leeshug:

[MonCapitan2002]

lees pmed me and said that she had a migraine and may not be around much this weekend.

i told her it would be ok, cuz i figured there wouldnt be much action this weekend.
I hope she feels better soon.

[MonCapitan2002]

Finger of Suspicion. It's an "I've got my eye on you and my finger on the vote button" sort of thing.
Ahh. Now I understand.

[Legs]

I call that a Focker - like in Meet the Parents when Robert DeNiro gives the 'I got my eye on you' signal :laugh:

[livius drusus]

Poor Lees. I'm beginning to think migraines are catching. :no:

[Nightson]

unvote

Hope you feel better soon Lees.

[Legs]

:waiting:

[slimshady2357]

Totally.

Nothing is really happening here. I'm going to unvote Legs because I don't see my vote as accomplishing much at this point. In the begginning I just vote to see what the person will say.

I've got nothing to go on right now, so I'll just keep waiting and seeing what happens.

I hope Lees is feeling better :patpat:

[Legs]

me too :leeshug:

[Moxy]

Anyone have a vote tally? Obviously I can't count worth a damn.

[Spenser]

I'm sorry but Legs putting up an avatar of a witch is just too sensational considering this game has a witch.

Unvote, Vote: Legs

[Crumb]

She did the same thing last October, Spenser.

[beyelzu]

current tally using the spenser stick in the mud unopen to change or rather the other way is just too much fucking work.

:tmgrin:


1. MonCapitan2002 - spenser
2. Crumb - moxy
3. Spenser - Legs
4. Lees -
5. Nightson -
6. livius - Lees
7.Slimshady-
8. TGG -
9. Widget - TGG
10. Legsy - Slimshady
11. godfry n. glad - Moxy
12. Moxy - crumb


Crumb = 1
Lees = 1
Legs = 1
TGG = 1
Slimshady = 1
Moxy = 2
spenser = 1

[Legs]

It's October, Spenser :rolleye1:

[Crumb]

I'm going to unvote; vote: Spenser for that silly comment.

Are we going to need a time limit, bey?

[Nightson]

I'll reread and find somebody suspicious later today.

[beyelzu]

personally, im not ready to make a time limit just yet, the general amount of inactivity in the thread is kind of troublesome though. lets see what happens tomorrow or the next day.

[godfry n. glad]

Well, I'm still here and, as yet, I see no reason to change my vote.

[MonCapitan2002]

Since I was unvoted.

Unvote: Spenser

[livius drusus]

I PMd Lees (not a game PM! just a "are you okay?" PM) and she is still feeling under the weather, so I'll go ahead and unvote.

[Legs]

yeah, I'll unvote too I only voted for slim because he voted for me, and now that he has unvoted... well, I have no reason. :shrug:

[Crumb]

We have to lynch someone for this game to move. Someone has to be the initial sacrifice.

[Legs]

okay then vote: Crumb

thanks for volunteering

[Crumb]

:narrow:

[Legs]

If stabbing snoopy isn't an indication of guilt, I don't know what is. :noid:

[Crumb]

Witch!

[Legs]

:laugh: you spelled that wrong

[Crumb]

:giggles:

[Nightson]

Well, I promised. That Only view posts by tool is handy

Alright, let’s do a person by person analysis. Lees is temporarily excluded because of her headache, and I of course can’t analyze myself, so if you wish my posts analyzed too someone else is going to have to do it.

Crumb: Moves his vote around a lot but not in a scummy way as far as I can tell. Mild protownishness.

MonCap: Seems to be lacking in content. Possibly attempting to lurk in plain sight (posting but not contributing towards generating dialogue to find scum). Neutral

Moxy: Most suspicious person so far.

I guarantee that's a wasted vote...unless you're mafia of course.

Reacts to one random vote by casting suspicion, OMGUSing

Or it could just be that TGG is mafia and was claiming townie to lay the groundwork for his "innocence."

Again casts suspicion.

Do you guys have any reason at all for voting for me? Either you guys just have no idea who to vote for, or you're mafia trying to off a townie. That's what we had to do the first day in the roman game, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's what you were doing. I'm going to go ahead and vote based on this.

Vote: Crumb

I am definitely a townie, and I invite the cop to go ahead and view me or whatever. If the rest of you join this bandwagon, you're only hurting yourselves.

This is the scummiest post. I looked back over the roman game and I take back what I said, this isn’t a wild deviation from how you were playing then. You first are overdefensive, you OMGUS, votes OMGUS, tries to direct a power role, and then ends with a warning that we’d only be hurting ourselves if we were to vote for her.

And later she says she isn’t removing her OMGUS vote. Mildly/highly scummy.

Legs: Looks okay, mostly socializing posts but with scum hunting thrown in. Neutral/slightly townish.

Liv: Not a lot of content so far, seems alright, but hasn’t done anything particularly protown. Neutral.

Spenser: 8 posts, none content filled. Neutral with a tinge of scumminess.

Godfry: 5 posts, declares his random vote to no longer be random. Same verdict as Spenser.

Widget: 2 posts, one a checking in, one a random vote, can’t get anything off of so little info.

Slim: 6 posts, but more attempts to look for scum then most it seems. Mild protown vibes.

TGG: A single post 4 days ago in which he claimed. He gets a neutral with a tinge of scuminess too.

So in conclusion, Moxy stands out to me at least as the best bet, and as such vote: Moxy

Definitely want to hear more from Widget and TGG, more from Spens and godfry would be nice too.

[godfry n. glad]

Definitely want to hear more from Widget and TGG, more from Spens and godfry would be nice too.

So... What is it you want to know?

I like this town. I could see living long term in this town. It's okay by me.

We're all townies, here, right?

Uptown, downtown, crosstown, intown, overtown...it don't matter.

Don't tell me you're one o'them clowns what lives out by the airport?

[Nightson]

Definitely want to hear more from Widget and TGG, more from Spens and godfry would be nice too.

So... What is it you want to know?

I like this town. I could see living long term in this town. It's okay by me.

We're all townies, here, right?

Uptown, downtown, crosstown, intown, overtown...it don't matter.

Don't tell me you're one o'them clowns what lives out by the airport?

Comment on people, for example, what do you think of liv? Do you agree with my points against Moxy or do you have other reasons for voting her?

[Leesifer]

Hi guys. Sorry for my absence and thanks for all the hugs (and the unvoting). I'm feeling a bit better today.

I've just read the thread but will probably need to read through it again later on - at the moment, I'm also catching up on other threads too!

However, on first reading, nobody is really giving off any bad vibes so far.

[Nightson]

:leeshug:

[godfry n. glad]

Definitely want to hear more from Widget and TGG, more from Spens and godfry would be nice too.

So... What is it you want to know?

I like this town. I could see living long term in this town. It's okay by me.

We're all townies, here, right?

Uptown, downtown, crosstown, intown, overtown...it don't matter.

Don't tell me you're one o'them clowns what lives out by the airport?

Comment on people, for example, what do you think of liv? Do you agree with my points against Moxy or do you have other reasons for voting her?


Hey...There really isn't much to say. 'Cept, "Hey! LOOKIT! Leesifer is here!"

I think liv is like most of the rest of us. Just checking out the crowd and going with whatever intuition one can. Draw out others. I'm a townie, like everybody else.

I'm assuming this actually takes place in Denver....'zat okay? I've never seen the film, although I read the IMDb and the casting makes it look interesting. So...color me a bit confused on how I'm supposed to "play my role?"

I guess one question I have of 'bub is, who are the mafia analogues in this thing?

ETA: Okay... It's Mr. Shhh, Gus and the crooked lieutenant.

Is there a real Man With A Plan cast...or, is that your role from upstage?

[Legs]

okay, I'll go with Nightson on Moxy

unvote

Vote: Moxy

[livius drusus]

I think Nightson makes a pretty damn compelling argument.

vote: Moxy

[slimshady2357]

hmm, this day has to end at some point. And there just doesn't ever seem to be much to go on before the first lynch or two.

I'm sorry Moxy...

vote Moxy

Can we get a vote tally? And can we please let Moxy have a chance to defend herself before we lynch?

We must be close now.... so don't vote until a tally comes.

[slimshady2357]

My UNOFFICIAL vote count says Moxy has 5 votes right now.

me, Nightson, liv, Legs and godfry.

So since there are only two more votes left to lynch, I say we back off for now and let Moxy defend herself.

Anyone who votes now and doesn't let Moxy have that chance will be looking scummy :narrow:

[Moxy]

Now can i be defensive?

Ah the hell with it. Vote me off already. This game is too slow.

[Legs]

I think Nightson makes a pretty damn compelling argument.


It was an okay argument and it was pretty well all we had, but it sure wasn't damn compelling or even close.

So unvote

and

Vote: livius drusus :noid:

[Moxy]

So since there are only two more votes left to lynch, I say we back off for now and let Moxy defend herself.

Alright, for the sake of the game, I will defend myself.

1) Moxy = himself. Common confusion every time I join somewhere, but oh well.

2) Sure I said I was innocent and tried to cast suspicion early on...what else is there to do? Maybe it was dumb to say that i was innocent at the beginning, but it's true, and you'll see that as soon as you vote me off. What i said about TGG looking guilty was just my interpretation. I couldn't PM that to anyone, so I said it here. Didn't really think that was too big a deal, since that is what we're doing here.

3) My posts from Friday night that Nightson is jumping all over... Looking at them now, I'd have to say Nightson makes a very good case. I acted very stupid. It was Friday night, and I'd been drinking since I got home from work that day. Not smart, but there it is. I never saw that Nightson had unvoted me, so I thought there were 3 people already voting for me, and I didn't understand why a bandwagon had started against me. Things seemed to be suddenly moving very quickly. That's why I was asking what the hell was going on, and why people were voting for me. No one ever answered that question anyway.

Anyway, at this point, I'm probably the proper choice given my suspicious actions. Still the incorrect choice, but I don't really blame you guys. A lot of people are just sitting back and not saying anything...so I guess you can't get a read on them. I fucked up, so either go for it, or have the cop check me out or something. Actually, that may not be the right move either, since it means one less night of finding a mafia guy.

[Legs]

Maybe if you reveal your innocent game name, that will help?

[Leesifer]

Well, Moxy, you do sound quite sincere. Could be a double bluff though.

I think I'll hold off on voting for anybody just now, as I'm just back in the game. I'll read the thread again and wait for other people to post today.

[Crumb]

I'm tempted to vote for Moxy.

[Moxy]

Maybe if you reveal your innocent game name, that will help?

Hadn't even thought of that. I'm Joe Heff. That may not help since it seems most people haven't seen the movie (including myself).

I totally forgot about the game names, and how they almost totally screwed us over last time. I would ask everyone to reveal their game names...but I don't want to out the cop.

[livius drusus]

It was an okay argument and it was pretty well all we had, but it sure wasn't damn compelling or even close.
My posts from Friday night that Nightson is jumping all over... Looking at them now, I'd have to say Nightson makes a very good case.
Uh oh... Now you have to vote for Moxy again now. :laugh:

[Moxy]

It's a good case because I was stupid.

It's still wrong.

[livius drusus]

I know, Moxy. Your defense is reasonable and seems sincere. I was just pointing out that Legs' stated reason for voting for me is just as easily applied to you.

I'm not prepared to unvote you quite yet. I'd like to see Nightson's response first.

[beyelzu]

Is there a real Man With A Plan cast...or, is that your role from upstage?
thats just a role for me to fuck with. Cuz im a selfish and petty god so i kept the coolest christopher walken character for myself.


:tmgrin:

actually, i couldnt figure out a good game mechanic for him that was true to the film so i thought i would just use him for the scenes.

[slimshady2357]

So since there are only two more votes left to lynch, I say we back off for now and let Moxy defend herself.

Alright, for the sake of the game, I will defend myself.

1) Moxy = himself. Common confusion every time I join somewhere, but oh well.

2) Sure I said I was innocent and tried to cast suspicion early on...what else is there to do? Maybe it was dumb to say that i was innocent at the beginning, but it's true, and you'll see that as soon as you vote me off. What i said about TGG looking guilty was just my interpretation. I couldn't PM that to anyone, so I said it here. Didn't really think that was too big a deal, since that is what we're doing here.

3) My posts from Friday night that Nightson is jumping all over... Looking at them now, I'd have to say Nightson makes a very good case. I acted very stupid. It was Friday night, and I'd been drinking since I got home from work that day. Not smart, but there it is. I never saw that Nightson had unvoted me, so I thought there were 3 people already voting for me, and I didn't understand why a bandwagon had started against me. Things seemed to be suddenly moving very quickly. That's why I was asking what the hell was going on, and why people were voting for me. No one ever answered that question anyway.

Anyway, at this point, I'm probably the proper choice given my suspicious actions. Still the incorrect choice, but I don't really blame you guys. A lot of people are just sitting back and not saying anything...so I guess you can't get a read on them. I fucked up, so either go for it, or have the cop check me out or something. Actually, that may not be the right move either, since it means one less night of finding a mafia guy.

Dammit, that's a pretty good defence.

I don't know, I believe you for now. I don't think you're scum right now.

I'm going to unvote for now.

Oh, and sorry for the herself stuff. I thought Nightson knew you from another board and he was using herself.

[godfry n. glad]

So...Legs? Why livius?

And, Nightson...You seem to have appointed yourself as emcee here. What is your story?

[Legs]

liv said Nightson's argument against moxy was damn compelling and voted.

I didn't think it was damn compelling at all ,so thought maybe liv was trying to get the game moved along and vote out a townie.

[Leesifer]

Hmm, I still don't have any reason to vote for anybody yet. It may be that, as is quite often on day one, a random vote will close this day. :sigh:

[livius drusus]

I didn't think it was damn compelling at all ,so thought maybe liv was trying to get the game moved along and vote out a townie.
If that were my intent then I would have said as much up front. As you know from past games, I think there are circumstances under which lynching someone you suspect is a townie is a perfectly reasonable choice. If we had done that to first two days of Mafia II instead of killing helpful or neutral townies, the town might have actually won after I outed half the scum. ;)

Like Moxy, I thought the Nightson made a very good case. You disagree. C'est la vie.

[godfry n. glad]

Okay...unvote Moxy

[Legs]

Like Moxy, I thought the Nightson made a very good case. You disagree. C'est la vie.

No. I agreed that Nightson had some points and I voted for Moxy based on them. My problem was with you saying they were damn compelling - I thought that your comment was over the top.

[Nightson]

So...Legs? Why livius?

And, Nightson...You seem to have appointed yourself as emcee here. What is your story?

Discussion seemed lacking, just trying to get discussion going and it looks like it worked.

Going to look up Moxy's role name now.

[Nightson]

Well, google didn't find anything, guess I'll watch the movie now. [unvote canacelled] Just to prevent shenanigens

Edit: Nevermind, I read godfry's unvote as another vote to lynch, we've got plenty of breathing room

[livius drusus]

No. I agreed that Nightson had some points and I voted for Moxy based on them. My problem was with you saying they were damn compelling - I thought that your comment was over the top.
I don't see much of a difference between calling something a "damn compelling argument" and a "very good case", but if you do, again, oh well.

Anyway, Spenser hasn't said anything since he voted for Legs on the silly "you have a witch in your avatar" grounds. Also, TGG has only posted once, so he's obviously not much of an asset to the town, even if he is an innocent.

So to get the ball rolling I'm going to unvote; vote: Spenser

[MonCapitan2002]

It looks like Moxy has avoided a lynching. I hope we don't regret sparing him.

[Nightson]

After watching the movie, I find myself unconvinced by Moxy's name claim, I'll leave my vote where it is.

Should Moxy turn up guilty I would think Legs is his scum partner, that seemed like an attempt to throw a bandwagon off (and it worked).

[Nightson]

Also, Fos: Widget for lurking

[Leesifer]

Anyway, Spenser hasn't said anything since he voted for Legs on the silly "you have a witch in your avatar" grounds. Also, TGG has only posted once, so he's obviously not much of an asset to the town, even if he is an innocent.

So to get the ball rolling I'm going to unvote; vote: Spenser

OK, I know I wasn't here for a few days either but if I remember correctly TGG said he would only be away for a night. I agree with liv that posting only once isn't helping the town, so.

vote: thegoldglove07

[Widget]

Also, Fos: Widget for lurking


Lurking, listening learning, i'm just trying to get a handle on how the game is played.

[slimshady2357]

Ya, I'm in total agreement with liv. Lynching a townie who isn't helping the town is better than doing nothing. At least the game gets moving and the person is gone in later rounds where, in my experience, they continue to be a negative rather that a positive for the town.

There are a few ways a townie can actually hurt their team. One is to be mostly silent, since we have nothing to go on about them, we can't possibly distinguish them from scum. Another is to push, push, push to move the game along, casting killing votes or near killing votes round after round just because they're bored. Making false role claims is a third and I'm sure there are more.

Therefore I'm going to vote for tgg, since I've seen him do at least two of three mentioned above in past games and he seems to be silent once again.

vote tgg

[beyelzu]

think this is current.


1. MonCapitan2002 -
2. Crumb - spenser
3. Spenser - Legs
4. Lees - tgg
5. Nightson - moxy
6. livius - spenser
7.Slimshady- tgg
8. TGG -
9. Widget - TGG
10. Legsy - liv
11. godfry n. glad -
12. Moxy - crumb

tgg = 3
Liv = 1
Crumb = 1
Legs = 1
Slimshady =
Moxy = 1
spenser = 2

[Legs]

unvote

Vote: TGG

I agree, he should have checked in again

[beyelzu]

1. MonCapitan2002 -
2. Crumb - spenser
3. Spenser - Legs
4. Lees - tgg
5. Nightson - moxy
6. livius - spenser
7.Slimshady- tgg
8. TGG -
9. Widget - TGG
10. Legsy - tgg
11. godfry n. glad -
12. Moxy - crumb

tgg = 4
Liv =
Crumb = 1
Legs = 1
Slimshady =
Moxy = 1
spenser = 2

[Moxy]

After watching the movie, I find myself unconvinced by Moxy's name claim, I'll leave my vote where it is.

Should Moxy turn up guilty I would think Legs is his scum partner, that seemed like an attempt to throw a bandwagon off (and it worked).

Can you explain why you were unconvinced? I have not seen the movie, so I don't know much about the character. Are you unconvinced that this character is just a townie? Or unconvinced that I was actually given that name?

Hopefully I don't have a name that could be easily confused with a mafia person, that would seem to be a bit of a handicap.

[Crumb]

unvote; vote: TGG He's obviously not around enough to play.

[Leesifer]

Goodness, it's quiet on this thread!

[Crumb]

Let's kill someone already.

[godfry n. glad]

vote: tgg

[Spenser]

I'm here Liv. I work for the elections department in my county and you could imagine the workload right now. (Though I have managed the time for the IIDB politcal forum, I guess I like banging my head against the wall) I would be willing to unvote Legs for the avatar thing but she is still wishy washy and was the 3rd to bandwagon Moxy. Both scum tells so my vote remains.

[Leesifer]

Are we going to have another "longest day" game thread?

[livius drusus]

Okay Spenser, I'll unvote you. I don't want to cast the last vote for TGG, though, because we said we absolutely would not hang someone without giving them a chance to defend.

If he doesn't come back by tomorrow morning, I'll vote for him.

[Nightson]

After watching the movie, I find myself unconvinced by Moxy's name claim, I'll leave my vote where it is.

Should Moxy turn up guilty I would think Legs is his scum partner, that seemed like an attempt to throw a bandwagon off (and it worked).

Can you explain why you were unconvinced? I have not seen the movie, so I don't know much about the character. Are you unconvinced that this character is just a townie? Or unconvinced that I was actually given that name?

Hopefully I don't have a name that could be easily confused with a mafia person, that would seem to be a bit of a handicap.

The character wasn't prominent enough for me to be sure he's in this game and/or protown. As such I'm going to have to just go off your actions in the game.

[Nightson]

I don't really like the TGG wagon, but then again I've never subscribed to the Lynch all Lurkers school of thought. I know there are people who believe it's a valid strategy.

[livius drusus]

He's not even lurking, Nightson. He's just not around period. His last time online was 5 days ago.

[Crumb]

I sent him an email. My guess is he has just been too busy and shouldn't have been playing. I doubt that will change so my vote stands. :pfft: on him!

[Nightson]

He's not even lurking, Nightson. He's just not around period. His last time online was 5 days ago.

I know he's had computer access because he logged into AIM last night.

[Leesifer]

I don't really like the TGG wagon, but then again I've never subscribed to the Lynch all Lurkers school of thought. I know there are people who believe it's a valid strategy.

It's not so much as a bandwagon as a voting out of those that aren't really playing.

And yes I know I've been away for a while and I would be a bit fed up to find I'd been lynched when I came back, but not too surprised to be honest.

[Nightson]

I don't really like the TGG wagon, but then again I've never subscribed to the Lynch all Lurkers school of thought. I know there are people who believe it's a valid strategy.

It's not so much as a bandwagon as a voting out of those that aren't really playing.

And yes I know I've been away for a while and I would be a bit fed up to find I'd been lynched when I came back, but not too surprised to be honest.

Nonetheless, it can distract from finding scum. It wouldn't be hard for scum to push for votes on someone who wasn't helpful, wouldn't be hard to get a townie lynched.

You notified the mod which was the most important thing to do.

[Leesifer]

I can see your point Nightson. However, tgg hasn't posted at all since his "I'm going to be away for a night" post. So, it's not like he's helping at all.

[Nightson]

I can see your point Nightson. However, tgg hasn't posted at all since his "I'm going to be away for a night" post. So, it's not like he's helping at all.

No I certainly agree with that, I'm just wary about lynching him for that. I'm just gonna leave it up to the rest of the town, not something I'd personally support (I'm like 90% certain if we do end up lynching him he's gonna be townie)

[MonCapitan2002]

I was going to vote for him this morning, but I was thwarted by the morning back up. I shall defer my vote for now. If he does not post by tonight, I shall cast a vote to lynch him.

[Moxy]

I don't like doing this, but TGG hasn't shown up in almost a week now. We either have to go ahead and decide to vote him off, or figure out someone else to vote for.

I haven't a clue why he could be MIA for so long, I'm sure he's probably got some higher priority thing going on, but it also leads me to believe his character is a townie. An unhelpful townie at this point, but a townie nonetheless. If he were mafia, it seems like he'd make more of an effort to contribute to this game.

I'd think that even if they are trying to fly under the radar, at the very least, a mafia player would at least check in every day to see if anyone got killed. Are we willing to vote off a quiet townie for the sake of getting the game moving? As of now, I haven't been able to build a case against anyone else...

[Spenser]

Fuck it; Unvote, Vote: TGG

If it gets me lynched tomorrow so be it...

[Nightson]

We'll see, always a chance he was scum trying to lie really low. Not very likely though.

[livius drusus]

Nightfall

[beyelzu]

While any person voted for will be officially lynched for the scenes I will decide on some sort of death or not for the person.


The man with the plan's people are afoot and the streets of Denver are oddly vacant. Almost everyone keeps their head down. But some people want action, Leesifer helps lead the charge, "if you arent part of the solution you are part of the fucking problem."

A crowd gathers at Bubba's Porn Palace looking for thegoldglove, but he isnt to be found. No more will he clean after a bunch of trenchcoat types pulling off one to shitty porn. No more will he walk this bad beat of his.

Worried about death that is coming on two legs, Pieces Palmero hated by the man with the plan, a townie has decided to put it in the fucking wind, maybe with a little luck to have boat drinks.

Maybe he's out there somewhere dancing the foxtrot with a 2000 dollar a night whore in a Paris nightclub, but one thing is for sure, he's not rolling around denver anymore.


nightfall

Anyone with a special role get me your night moves in please, and at night you guys can talk in pm.

[beyelzu]

"Jimmy the Saint would like a word, boss," Gus said to the man with the plan.

"What can I do for you, Jimmy," wheezed the head.

"Franchise has a family you have to.."

"I don't got to do dick.," interrupted the man.

"It would be good of you to let him live, he has a wife, a family," continued Jimmy.

"Well, shit he has a family, a wife a kids, like I give a fuck, I'm a criminal Jimmy. Because you gave class to the life back in the day, I will let you live for now, but your misbegotten crew, buckweats for all of them. In fact, if you would indulge me for a moment in a bit of levity, what's big and tatooed and bleading all over a room at the notell motel?" The man with the plan laughed.


"You sonofabitch, you bastard" Jimmy is cut off by Gus's fist slamming into his gut. As Jimmy falls to the ground, the man with a plan finishes,"Get out of Denver, Jimmy, or you will join Franchise, quivering and bleading."



Moncapitan, big, bad Franchise, a townie, is now dead.


Daybreak

1. MonCapitan2002 - Franchise - killed night 1
2. Crumb -
3. Spenser -
4. Lees -
5. Nightson -
6. livius -
7.Slimshady-
8. TGG - Pieces- lynched day 1
9. Widget -
10. Legsy -
11. godfry n. glad -
12. Moxy -

"LeRoy says there's something you should know
Not everybody has a place to go
And home is just a place to hang your head
And dream up things to do in Denver when you're dead"

[Legs]

Okay, 2 townies are dead ~ does anyone have any bright ideas?

[Nightson]

vote: Moxy

Pretty much a continuation of yesterday's vote. Although I liked his last post, so if something better comes by I'll switch to it.

[Legs]

I don't know who to vote for :blank: but I'll read over the whole thread again.

[Leesifer]

Damn! Poor MonCap! :(

I can't see anything that he did to warrant being killed either.

[Nightson]

That's probably why he got killed. A reason would give away information. Sucks for MonCap though.

And did other people do any game PMing? Because I did nothing. If anyone has anything more to go on.

[Leesifer]

I wasn't actually online last night. Logged in this morning to find another townie had been done in. :sigh:

[Legs]

No I didn't do any PM'ing, I actually forgot that we could! No one PM'd me either. :shrug:

[livius drusus]

No game PMs from or to me either. I thought everyone hated me, but it turns out, we all hate each other. :pleased:

[Leesifer]

:giggles:

[Legs]

Next Nightfall I'll PM you both

:bsod:

[Crumb]

No PMs for me either. Did we waste a good opportunity there?

[livius drusus]

I don't know. The whole PM aspect seems as likely to be dangerous to the town as it is useful, which, I suppose, is the point. :shrug2:

[godfry n. glad]

I don't know as whether PMing on the first night would be a wise move. I'd say a bit later in the plot, it might be more useful.

That said, I got no PMs and I sent no PMs. I'm having an existential experience out here.

[Leesifer]

Well, in the last game PMing was allowed throughout and I think a lot of the game got played via PM. I believe that's why bey has said PMing only at night in this game.

[Legs]

I know it's the weekend, but more players should be checking in since day has arrived.

:shrug:

[Nightson]

*wants to hear some input from widget*

[Widget]

Right now I'm thinking Ferrari might beat out Renault for the title, Mr Schumacher is doing rather well (maybe he too is a townie).

I have no real thoughts as to who is the Good the Bad or the Ugly, I am trying to figure who actually does know what after 2 nightfalls, more people will have been figured out by the cop and/or witch , hands may be shown soon in the next lynching.

Legs is sleeping and I am off to bed soon, I may be sleeping with the enemy for all I know.

[Legs]

:noid:

[Nightson]

Right now I'm thinking Ferrari might beat out Renault for the title, Mr Schumacher is doing rather well (maybe he too is a townie).


Nope, he's the serial killer

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4060&start=0

[Moxy]

Alright. So what's going on today? Anyone acting guilty yet? No? Alright, back to work.

[slimshady2357]

Ok, sorry for my lack of participation in the last few days.

I too sent no PM's and rec'd no PM's. Right now there is very little to go on still, but at least we know that MonCap wasn't scum. It's not much, but it's a place to start. I'm going to re-read his posts first and then thread and see if anything bubbles up.

[livius drusus]

I'm a bit aimless at this point, not really having any suspicions. I'm going to reread everyone's posts on their own, then reread the thread as a whole.

[slimshady2357]

Ok, it only took about 15 seconds to read all of MonCap's posts and I got nothing out of them.

He voted for spenser, but then unvoted him. He almost voted for Moxy, but didn't get it done in time. Other than those small, pretty much useless tidbits, I see nothing in his posts.

On to reading the thread.

[Leesifer]

Just checking in, folks. I've nothing to add to what liv and slim have both said.

[Legs]

Checking in, I have no clue on who to vote for even after reading the thread again.

[Crumb]

This game seems way to easy for the bad guys. All they have to do is act dumb and confused and vote in random ways and wait for the townies to do half their killing for them. There is really nothing to go on, at all. :confused:

So I will throw out a vote.

Vote: Legs

[Nightson]

I'll reread when I get home, also getting the not much to go on, maybe I'll come up with some questions later to try and encourage discussion.

[Legs]

Gee thanks, Crumb.

Vote: livius

[Crumb]

You do not seem to be playing anything like you usually do.

[livius drusus]

Well, she does have a history of voting for me when I'm innocent and not when I'm guilty, so in that sense she's par for the course. :giggle:

[Nightson]

The Legs/Liv dynamic is interesting, I noticed it the other day. Unfortunately class ends in 3 minutes so looking closely wil have to wait till I get home.

[Legs]

You do not seem to be playing anything like you usually do.

Probably because this game is so s-l-o-w I keep forgetting to read the thread or post.

I voted for liv last round and gave my reasoning then. I agreed to switch to TGG because he basically had vanished, and like most, I figured he was a townie too busy to contribute and shoud go.

[Leesifer]

Ok, I'm going to use my vote using similar reasoning to the voting for tgg. Spenser hasn't made a post in four days. If he does turn up tonight then I'm willing to unvote.

Vote: Spenser

[Nightson]

*pokes thread*

Got lots of homework, so don't expect be on tonight, but for everyone else.

POST OR PERISH!

[livius drusus]

Aight, well, might as well reiterate. Legs' grounds for voting for me is that I said Nightson's argument against Moxy was "pretty damn compelling" when according to her it was just okay. I pointed out last round that in fact that Moxy himself called Nightson's argument a "very good case" so the target of the reasoning actually agreed with me.

Crumb, to me this is standard Legs operating procedure: flimsy, barely justified but impossible to dislodge suspicions. When she was mafia in the Roman game was the only time I ever saw her make a thorough argument against someone. Is it the relative infrequency of posting that makes her seem suspicious to you?

[godfry n. glad]

Y'know, liv...I think you're right.

vote: Legs

[Legs]

sure vote me out, just remember who is pushing for it and get her at the next opportunity.

:cheer: go townies

[Nightson]

Y'know, liv...I think you're right.

vote: Legs

Liv just said that this is Legs usual playstyle when she's town.

unvote, vote: godfry

[slimshady2357]

Y'know, liv...I think you're right.

vote: Legs

Liv just said that this is Legs usual playstyle when she's town.

unvote, vote: godfry

Um, ya. That's what I got out of it too. I guess Legs and godfry read it differently.

I don't know... I've re-read the thread and nothing much is coming up.

[Legs]

Yes, I read it wrong, sorry liv. My comment was based on seeing godfry say he thought she was right and then vote me.

[livius drusus]

That's cool, Legs. Yes, godfry, I meant that Legs is playing in a usual manner for when she's town. Since we have little else to go on and your misreading was conveniently hasty/bandwagony, I'm going to go ahead and

vote:godfry.

[Crumb]

Maybe it is just her posting frequency. But that can be explained by the over all slugishness of this game. My posting frequency is way down as well. If I voted based on game play changes I would have to vote for myself too, I guess. It seems like there is more to it, but I can't put my finger on it, it is just a feeling.

Seems silly to vote for godfry for misreading liv, though. :confused: This game is going nowhere fast.

[livius drusus]

At least godfry's vote is an actual incongruous move, Crumb, which I'm just not seeing anywhere else. I don't have any other feeling to go with. :shrug: