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California Tanker
10-12-2006, 06:18 PM
I challenge you to look at This Link (http://www.israellawcenter.org/template.php?section=MI) and not burst out in tears. (Laughter, pity, disbelief, your choice).

I can see it being a kindof money scam, but I'm worried it's serious.

NTM

Watser?
10-12-2006, 06:34 PM
I don't know wether to puke or cry... :puke: :(

Sock Puppet
10-12-2006, 06:57 PM
Inside tour of the IAF unit who carries out targeted killings.What, you don't get to participate, sort of like a safari? What a rip-off. :rolleyes:

TomJoe
10-12-2006, 07:30 PM
That's got to be a joke.

Watser?
10-12-2006, 08:15 PM
I doubt that it's a joke

Here (http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/2207)'s another itinary.
Briefing by Gen. Nechemia Dagan, a former Air Force Commander, on “the realities of Israel’s policy of targeted killings.”
Oh, I could give them a briefing on that. I was lucky enough to be in Gaza when they bombed the house of one of the leaders of Islamic Jihad, Salah Shehadeh.
I wrote some of my observations down, they were included in this book (http://www.amazon.com/Peace-Fire-Fragments-Israel-Palestine-Story/dp/1853435708).
“They bombed a house tonight,” Sami tells us. (...)
We arrive at an open spot. A number of houses have completely vanished. The smell of burnt flesh is everywhere.
We walk into a house, which at first sight does not look badly damaged. The stairs are covered with glass, though; we crunch our way upstairs. The kitchen is still basically undamaged, but everything is covered in a thick layer of dust, as if nobody has been there for years. The roof is almost completely gone; judging by whats left it was made of wood. There is still a tv, which seems to work, but there is debris everywhere. Another room had a corrugated iron roof. There are still some pictures on the wall; one of them has been torn from the frame by the blast. The owner of the house is wandering around numbly. He tells me his wife and three of his children died. “Bush helps Israel kill Palestinian people. Why?” he asks nobody in particular. When everyone has left the house, he locks it with a chain.

They killed somewhere between 13 and 17 people there and wounded (and maimed) 150 more. It was still unusual enough at the time to make the headlines around the world, though there was nobody else there (except the neighbors). Western media never made it out there at all and Al Jazeera and al Arabiyya had left already.
By now this kind of thing has become commonplace.

ms_ann_thrope
10-12-2006, 08:33 PM
I think it would be interesting and educational, but probably not in the way that the tour operators intend it to be...

godfry n. glad
10-12-2006, 09:03 PM
Oh... I suspect it's authentic. The price is not really too bad, given the length of stay, the accomodations, meals and the amount of ground covered. (The real cost is airfare to Jerusalem and back home.) I've been to most of the places mentioned, only I didn't get the intensive propaganda that came with it. Man...That's some intensity, all right. The cost of the trip ain't bad, but you'll end up on the fundraising mailing lists of so many B'nai Brith type organizations it'll choke your mailbox.

Note that the people they are most likely reaching are the educated Jews of North America. It's a propaganda tool, plain and simple.

We've got a sizeable Lebanese-American community in my city. I wonder if they are offering counter-tours? The night-life in Beirut, lectures from Hamas organizers and municipal officials, an afternoon at the rifle range, including a session with nightvision goggles, a very quick spin through southern Lebanon in a beat up Nissan pickup, and an exciting evening dodging rockets at Beirut International Airport. I'll bet they'd even let you take a couple of potshots with the rocket launchers, too!

The Jesus Lawyer
10-12-2006, 11:46 PM
ah, humans.

godfry n. glad
10-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Oh, the huge manatee!