View Full Version : Is anyone here proud and unashamed of being a libertine?
Aurora Elegance
11-21-2004, 10:19 PM
Who here has no shame in indulging in pleasure for pleasure's sake? Hedonism? Who's free in their expression and utterly rejects the mores imposed on them by mainstream society?
Adora
11-21-2004, 11:52 PM
Who's free in their expression and utterly rejects the mores imposed on them by mainstream society?
Er, well, no. You can never totally reject the mores, otherwise you would lose all ability for communication and social interaction with anyone.
livius drusus
11-22-2004, 12:24 AM
Who here has no shame in indulging in pleasure for pleasure's sake? Hedonism? Who's free in their expression and utterly rejects the mores imposed on them by mainstream society?
I tell ya, it is fun being a libertine. Fuck social order and rules. It's against the rules to be human in most places.
Is this an apt description of you? Would you, for instance, harm another for your pleasure? Libertinage, as far as I've read, entails a righteous lack of concern for the well-being of anyone but oneself. I'm also not sure its eschews all social order and rules. It requires an ready supply of cash, for one thing, so some social order and rules are likely to be involved.
Do you have a role model of a libertine you could present as an example of what you appreciate and/or seek to personify in your own life?
seebs
11-22-2004, 12:59 AM
I would just like to state for the record that the "Assertion?" form of query is obnoxious and looks stupid. "Is anyone here ..." is more readable.
Petra
11-22-2004, 01:35 AM
Hiya, Aurora.
I have some pretty hedonistic tendencies but I have no idea what a libertine is. 'Cept for what Liv wrote. I'm more of an Epicurean, I think, and I love to share pleasure with others.
I love pleasure, and have indulged myself a little too much, sometimes. This has lead to me having to pay the price, as my myriad sins and indulgences catch up with me as my mind and body ages. Bummer about that.
But then I guess it depends on just what one's pleasure is. YMMV.
Aurora Elegance
11-22-2004, 02:21 AM
I guess the baiting tactic didn't quite work...
Well now that you've found me out, I'm like lunachick and actually more of an Epicurean because I love the simple pleasures. If any of you read my thread in the Watering Hole about living within your means, you already know my feelings about wealth and fame. I do occasionally overindulge myself but it doesn't happen often. I want to move to a rural and/or idyllic environment where Nature prevails instead of Commercial. And inner peace is one of main goals...
With that said, any more libertines? :D
Aurora Elegance
11-22-2004, 02:25 AM
Is this an apt description of you? Would you, for instance, harm another for your pleasure? Libertinage, as far as I've read, entails a righteous lack of concern for the well-being of anyone but oneself. I'm also not sure its eschews all social order and rules. It requires an ready supply of cash, for one thing, so some social order and rules are likely to be involved.
Absolutely not. I would never harm another for my pleasure. That's selfishness. :(
Dingfod
11-22-2004, 02:47 AM
I'll go with the second definition at dictionary.com:
2. One who defies established religious precepts; a freethinker
Johnny Pneumatic
11-22-2004, 04:09 PM
Sure I do stuff that millions would say is immoral. I go swimming in the nude, look a nude pictures, eat meat(PETA gasps), masturbate etc. Anything that feels good and doesn't harm me like doing cocaine or other strong drugs will.
bobeh
12-06-2004, 12:06 AM
Guess I'm a wannabe libertine.
In real life...about the most daring I get is the odd time when I run a yellow light. Actually...worse. I stopped, looked both ways, and went through a red light a few weeks ago. No one was coming...and I knew it was a long light...and I did it deliberately.
What would I wannado? All things kinky and sexy. Well, some anyway.
And a lot more pleasure...yes, for sure.
More money, less work. More fun. Lots of friends. Conversation, laughter, affection, food, wine, song... I'm sorely in deficit on all of these things.
Wannabee is my name.
livius drusus
12-06-2004, 12:18 AM
I wouldn't call any of the things you describe as libertinage, bobeh. Looks more like you just want be a junior in college to me. ;)
Sonnet
12-07-2004, 02:27 AM
Who here has no shame in indulging in pleasure for pleasure's sake? Hedonism? Who's free in their expression and utterly rejects the mores imposed on them by mainstream society?
:tiphat: I think I can claim that definition, at least by most standards.
aeroz19
12-09-2004, 05:32 AM
Is this an apt description of you? Would you, for instance, harm another for your pleasure? Libertinage, as far as I've read, entails a righteous lack of concern for the well-being of anyone but oneself. I'm also not sure its eschews all social order and rules. It requires an ready supply of cash, for one thing, so some social order and rules are likely to be involved.
Do you have a role model of a libertine you could present as an example of what you appreciate and/or seek to personify in your own life?
If that's what a libertine is, I completely reject this horrible philosophy. It is at the root of social disfunction and problems. No one needs that.
ApostateAbe
12-09-2004, 05:54 AM
Calling yourself a libertine or a hedonist is only as useful as something to talk about. It is human nature to do whatever we think makes our own selves happiest. With a few exceptions, we have no choice but to do that. In order to make ourselves happiest, we all follow the strictures of society, and we all do things beneficial things for others so that we can have good things done for us in return. If you say you are a hedonist, then the biggest difference between you and the normal person is that you are a bit more sensible and honest about your own self.
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