Kilik
11-28-2006, 08:02 AM
The Prophet Elijah and Jon the Baptist
Video
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7902784593337716008&q=gospel+of+john
There is an important saying...it goes something like, "from age to age I am incarnate, to aid and support the good in the world, and to hinder and counter the evil"
"The Jewish religious leaders of Jesus' day were well aware of the 'return of Elijah' prophecy. At one time the rabbis had asked Jesus' disciples to explain how Jesus could possibly have been the Messiah when it was obvious that Elijah had not returned from heaven yet.
The Apostles couldn't answer this question, so they asked Jesus:
"Why do the Jewish leaders insist Elijah must return before the Messiah comes?"
Jesus answered by first affirming that this question was valid and that this prophecy indeed was true. He said:
"They are right. Elijah must come and set everything in order..."
But then, to everyone's surprise, Jesus explained:
"In fact, he [Elijah] already has come, but he wasn't recognized, and was badly mistreated by many... Then the disciples realized he was speaking of John the Baptist."-Matthew 17:10-13 (LIVING BIBLE-CATHOLIC EDITION) (this account can also be found in: Mark 9:11-13)
Clearly, Jesus taught that this was a true prophecy. Jesus agreed that Elijah indeed "must return before the Messiah comes." But then, to the surprise to everyone there, Jesus claimed that John the Baptist was the fulfillment of this prophecy. "
http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/elijah.htm
But I was thinking of two possibilites concerning Elijah and John the Baptist.
1- they are the same being
2- John the Baptist had the same level, or was like "the new" Elijah
So either way I think the meaning and implications can be quite interesting
"Jhn 14:11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."
Interesting btw, The Chinese title of Meitreya has an interesting meaning. It indicates a certain level, and a certain type of mission mission
http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2005/4/26/60080.html
http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2003/1/8/30653.html
Video
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7902784593337716008&q=gospel+of+john
There is an important saying...it goes something like, "from age to age I am incarnate, to aid and support the good in the world, and to hinder and counter the evil"
"The Jewish religious leaders of Jesus' day were well aware of the 'return of Elijah' prophecy. At one time the rabbis had asked Jesus' disciples to explain how Jesus could possibly have been the Messiah when it was obvious that Elijah had not returned from heaven yet.
The Apostles couldn't answer this question, so they asked Jesus:
"Why do the Jewish leaders insist Elijah must return before the Messiah comes?"
Jesus answered by first affirming that this question was valid and that this prophecy indeed was true. He said:
"They are right. Elijah must come and set everything in order..."
But then, to everyone's surprise, Jesus explained:
"In fact, he [Elijah] already has come, but he wasn't recognized, and was badly mistreated by many... Then the disciples realized he was speaking of John the Baptist."-Matthew 17:10-13 (LIVING BIBLE-CATHOLIC EDITION) (this account can also be found in: Mark 9:11-13)
Clearly, Jesus taught that this was a true prophecy. Jesus agreed that Elijah indeed "must return before the Messiah comes." But then, to the surprise to everyone there, Jesus claimed that John the Baptist was the fulfillment of this prophecy. "
http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/elijah.htm
But I was thinking of two possibilites concerning Elijah and John the Baptist.
1- they are the same being
2- John the Baptist had the same level, or was like "the new" Elijah
So either way I think the meaning and implications can be quite interesting
"Jhn 14:11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."
Interesting btw, The Chinese title of Meitreya has an interesting meaning. It indicates a certain level, and a certain type of mission mission
http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2005/4/26/60080.html
http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2003/1/8/30653.html