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Kilik
11-28-2006, 08:54 AM
God, Nature, Past Universal History, The Great Flood etc. Ultimate thread about history


Chinese character for Qi- vapors rising
http://www.jadeacupuncture.com/vapor.jpg

Vapor and rice together
http://www.jadeacupuncture.com/Qi.jpg


Here is a post about chinese medicine and martial arts I found on another board quoted

" No-one who understood what is implied by Qi would say they don't believe in it. Saying you don't believe in Qi is like saying you don't believe in 'relationship' or "influence".

Qi is an old idea. The model I will try to explain is at least 2300 years old as it is clearly laid out in the Huangdi Neijing, the seminal work of chinese medicine. While essentially a medical text it also lays out a metaphysical model that is basic to chinese philosophy. The oldest character for Qi represented vapours rising. In time the radical for grain was placed below to show the steam that rises from cooking millet. What happens when you smell food cooking? Your body responds; stomach gurgles, mouth waters, etc. So something about cooking food exerted influence on you. Qi.

What is the nature of this influence? It requires that we introduce two other philosophical concepts that have been subject to ideational mutilation, Yin and Yang. We often see the simplistic folk models of Yin and Yang that are lists of things associated with the two concepts. ( Yin is feminine, cool, dark, receptive/ Yang is masculine, warm, light, creative). These lists are not strictly wrong, yet they obscure the reason the lists were made in the first place.

' Between heaven and earth are qi and it's laws' ; between Yin and Yang are Qi and it's laws'. This classic statement points to the most important aspect of Qi, it's context. So qi is the interplay of Yin and Yang. This brings us back to the nature of Yin and Yang.

Yin is the tendency of things in the universe to coalesce and slow down. Yin is the tendency to crystalization and struction. Yin is the tendacy of matter to fall down and shadows to form in opposition to light.


Yang is the tendency for things to change and become other things. The tendency to dissolve and tendency to grow. The tendency for clouds to boil and skin to tan.

All objects of sense experience are an interplay of Yin and Yang. This includes individual things as well as systems. This is why the concept of Taiji is the great terminus or the grand ultimate, because it includes all things in the universe. Yin and Yang are linked and one cannot be discussed without invoking the other. Structure cannot be divorced from function.

They stand in mutual opposition.
They are rooted in each other.
They define each others limit.
They transform into one another.

When we discuss the balance of Yin and Yang at any given moment or in any given state we are talking about Qi. It is important to understand that Yin and Yang are not absolute states of being, rather they are part of a moving frame that can applied in a variety of ways to any situation. There are many situations where the place of Yin and Yang is considered to be understood and relatively predictable so they are left out of the discussion. One of these places is in the context of the relationship between body and mind.

When we look at the basic idea of body and mind in Chinese philosophy we are talking about Jing(essense), and Shen( spirit, or summation of mental-emotional aspects of the individual). The relative interaction of Jing and Shen is the normal context for the discussion of Qi in martial arts. When someone says 'lead qi to your fingertips" the implication is to focus the mind on the fingertips to perceive the interaction between Jing and Shen at that point, hence qi. However, you could also say, ' absorb the opponents force to use their strength against them.' In this case Yin is found in the reception and relaxed connection of the defender ( song) , and the Yang is found in the aggresor's force( Li). The resulting Qi is how the interaction plays out. If the defender is subtle and skilled the qi will be the qi of a throw perhaps. If the aggressor is more subtle or skilled the result may be the qi of a successful hit.. If the aggressor is very subtle they may be able to become more Yin that the defender and so invert the frame of Yin and Yang."

Martial arts videos. In the past it was necessary to combine Ki and spiritual training with martial arts, and even healing and medicine.

Connection to the earth. Center of gravity. For sweeping the sweep digs a trench into the earth. The hips are like pendulums, connected to the ground
http://www.brainsalad.com/mov/clip06.mov

Some other videos showing a little bit of internal energy
http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Videos/P...dvantageWeb.mov (http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Videos/PosturalAdvantageWeb.mov)
http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Videos/H...intsWorkWeb.mov (http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Videos/How3JointsWorkWeb.mov)
http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Videos/StretchHeel1.mov

Anyways, that's one post I found interesting. So it sounds like one of the first classifications of Yin and Yang, supposedly had to do with sunlight vs. a shadow, or light vs, dark. This is because through history, teachers would teach mankind through oracles such as the I ching to teach about oneness. Such as how everything is vibration , and octaves. Galaxies, stars, planets, moons, humans, light, matter, vapour, sound. The emperors had no problem with this as long as they could become immortal, lead be turned to gold, or if their futures could be predicted.

Wuji- the formless, shapeless, nebulous, great void, before creation
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/wuji.gif
Taiji- the beginning of creation, experience, companionship, and duality, Yang and Yin turning around and eternally alternating giving birth to thousands of things within certain planes in the universe.
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/tai-ji.gif

Yang, one extreme pole-http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/young-a.gifYin, the other extreme pole- http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/young-.gif

SmallYang-http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/bi_29.gifBigYang-http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/bi_01.gifBigYin-http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/bi_02.gifSmallYin-http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/images_yi/trigrams-im/bi_30.gif



8 trigrams, Pre-Heaven arrangememt

Mountain, Water, Thunder, Heaven, Earth, Wind, Fire, Lake.

And- N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW
http://www.chinapage.com/astronomy/symbol/bagua01a.gif



Post-Heaven Arrangement(trinity)-

Father, 1st Son, 2nd Son, 3rd Son, Mother, 1st Daughter, 2nd Daughter, 3rd Daughter

http://www.chinapage.com/astronomy/symbol/bagua8j.jpg


Wu Ji, Tai Ji, Yin Yang, 8 trigrams, and Color
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/archetypes.htm
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image111.gif
Light travels at 296,000 meters per second or 186,000 miles per second and doesn't need a medium to travel in. All colors of light travel at the same speed, but they have different wave frequencies (short and long waves).

Light can be reflected or refracted. In reflection, light bounces off a surface and is diffused. Light travels in a straight line and refraction is the bending of this light. The light breaks up into different frequencies therefore causing a rainbow or a "broken" look.

Light falling on an object may be absorbed, or reflected. What happens to it depends on the color of the object: a red object reflects red light and absorbs much of the rest of the other colors that we see. The color of an object is that color which is reflected rather than absorbed.

Refraction is the change in direction of a wave due to a change in its velocity. This is most commonly seen when a wave passes from one medium to another. Refraction of light is the most commonly seen example, but any type of wave can refract when it interacts with a medium, for example when sound waves pass from one medium into another.

In optics, refraction occurs when light waves travel from a medium with a given refractive index to a medium with another. At the boundary between the media, the wave's phase velocity is altered, it changes direction, and its wavelength increases or decreases but its frequency remains constant. For example, a light ray will refract as it enters and leaves glass;

http://www.msnucleus.org/membership/html/k-6/as/physics/images/asp5_43.gif



http://www.biosonic.org/ManualEng/COLORS.html
Light Pigment relationship. To experiment with light complementary is rather simple, look at an intense red for one minute and then turn your eyes to look at a white surface, there you will see appearing the same shape of the red object in a slightly fluorescent cyan. Or project a spectrum from a prism on to a white wall, if we put in front of the projected rainbow colors a red filter the portion of blue cyan of the spectrum will disappear or putting a cyan filter the red portion of the spectrum will disappear. Instead if we put a magenta filter the portion of green will disappear, so it is relatively simple to know that cyan and red are complementary, as well as green to magenta in the radiant light principle. It is not as easy to find out this complementary color in the pigment absorption quality of color. Whenever we mix three color pigments together we reach black, meanwhile whenever we mix three coloured lights we reach white coherent light. If we mix green light with red light we get yellow going to white, meanwhile if we mix a red pigment with green pigment we get brown, going to black
http://www.biosonic.org/ManualEng/circles.JPG
http://www.biosonic.org/ManualEng/Rgb-cym.jpg




8 Trigrams-
Kun
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image094.jpg
Gen
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image101.jpg
Kan
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image092.jpg
Xun
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image102.jpg
Zhen
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image100.jpg
li
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image096.jpg
dui
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image103.jpg
qian
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image018.jpg


8 primary colors
black
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image007.jpg
Blue
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image005.jpg
Green
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image003.jpg
Cyan
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image004.jpg
Red
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image001.jpg
Magenta
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image006.jpg
Yellow
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image002.jpg
White
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image008.jpg


8 phases of the moon-
New
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image119.jpg
Crescent
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image120.jpg
First Quarter
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image121.jpg
Gibbous
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image122.jpg
Full
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image123.jpg
Disseminating
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image124.jpg
Last quarter
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image125.jpg
Balsamic
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image126.jpg


8 notes of the musical scale
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern-connie_files/image128.gif


8 bits of the binary code
000
001
010
011
100
101
110
111

I Ching, Pre-Heaven arrangement
http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/i-ching.JPG
http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/i-ching.JPG

Post Heaven arrangememt
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/loshu64.gif

Info on the I Ching
http://www.69yinyang.com/index2.html
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/digital11.html
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/ic-frc5.html
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/scientists.html
http://www.gwizdala.art.pl/a3/rgb/hexagramms.php



The modern DNA diagrams of today correspond to the anciet pre-natal and pre-heaven I Ching construct. Pre-natal energy is the energy inherited from your parents, whereas the the energy of air, water, food etc. is classified as post-natal energy. 5000 years ago the ancients wrote that the pre-natal energy at the microcosmic level inside the body, was constructed in the formation we now know to be DNA. They wrote that what it actually looked like from that level was that inside the human body at the microcosmic level, was like the universe outside the earth and that the human body was a small universe.

I think the Taoist cultivation is quite concerned with pre natal qi. The modern DNA table is basically the I Ching-
http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/IChing_and_dna.htm
http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/ehichgen.gif

and
* Matter is effected by forces or interactions (the terms are interchangeable)
* there are four fundamental forces in the Universe:
o gravitation (between particles with mass)
o electromagnetic (between particles with charge/magnetism)
o strong nuclear force (between quarks)
o weak nuclear force (that changes quark types)

Wave/particle duality
http://www.ag-physics.de/relat/Image117.gif
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/images/fund_particles.gif
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/images/bosons.gif
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/images/scale.gif
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/ast123/lectures/lec07.html
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/21st_century_science/lectures/lec16.html
http://faculty.clintoncc.suny.edu/faculty/Michael.Gregory/files/Bio%20101/Bio%20101%20Lectures/Chemistry/chemistr.htm


5 phases-

Everything in nature functions according to the 5 phases. In the human body, the kidneys nourish the liver in the same way as Water nourishes Wood in nature. Water can support and generate wood by supporting the growth of trees. It is a simple fact of nature that nothing in the universe can exist independantly of the whole balance of nature.

In the human body Metal corresponds to lungs and sadness. Water to Kidneys and fear. Wood to the liver and to anger. Fire to the heart and Joy. Earth to the spleen and to worry.

A human Body is also a 5 pointed star itself in physical form

Generative cycle
http://www.kheper.net/topics/eastern/5el-1.gif
Inhibitory cycle
http://www.kheper.net/topics/eastern/5el-2.gif



IMO and as I understand-

The great principle, is that which creates, constitutes, governs, sustains, and contains all within all.

There are laws of the absolute, and laws of the relative.

3 Absolute laws or the One Great Law apearing as a threefold ray. The same law governs everything from biggest to smallest, beginning and end. Life, mind, truth, love, is all, four points of the base of a pyrymid in a specific order with spirit at the tip as one. All is vibration.

The laws of the relative are law of polarity, law of rythm, law of cause and effect, law of gender.

There is also the law of evolution, like 10 steps forwrd 9.9 steps back, SORT OF, and law of love.

There is a so called principle of inter- generation, inter-inhibition. And creation, stasis, degeneration, destruction.

Ultimately ki is related to the principle of the oldest name of God. Yod He Vau He. It is known in many cultures, Yawheh, jehova, and Ya Ho Wa Ho are afew. The interplay father, mother, son, and universal holy spirit reborn. All is vibration, and octaves of it.

Info on tetrragrammation YHVH
http://www.webcom.com/mhc/archaeology/deca...agrammaton.html (http://www.webcom.com/mhc/archaeology/decalogue-tetragrammaton.html)
http://www.handwritingfoundation.org/deadsea.htm
http://www.webcom.com/mhc/archaeology/yhwh-scroll.gif
Kaballah
http://www.prs.org/gallery-kabblh.htm
http://www.prs.org/images/linart/mtetra.jpg


Yod He Vau He , explained in full in the Lost Teachings of Atlantis
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/chapter-nineteen-pg16.htm
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/chapter-nineteen-pg17.htm
metaphysics!
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/19.htm
“The symbolism and structure of Yod-He-Vau-He is simple, yet deeply profound. And when its few simple elements combine, they give birth to the entire complexity of life. In part, YHVH represents that perfect simple pattern we spoke of earlier - the atom or solar system. It also speaks of human procreation, and stellar/planetary procreation. The first part, “Yod”, represents the positive (+), “Sun”, “light”, “the Father” principles. The first “He” represents the “negative”, not in the sense of “bad” or “evil”, but in the sense of (-), negative polarity, pure darkness like that of the void of space, the receptive, the Mother principles. “Vau” is the meeting of Yod and He; the place of interplay, intercourse, and combining of the first two principles. It is its own principle, and the place of conception of, and the birth of, the second “He” (again, pronounced “hay”). The second “He” is the offspring of Yod and He, the result of their interaction, their subsequent creation. The second “He” has the same attributes as its Father, the Yod, in that it actually IS a Yod in its own macro or microcosmic realm. The second “He” is on a vibrational plane an octave apart. The second “He” begins the cycle (Yod-He-Vau-He) again, but AS THE YOD in micro-cosm or macro-cosm, and its polarity is reversed from its “father” YOD. Interestingly, the “father” principle, Yod, was distorted through translation over time from “Yod” into “God”, which is also often given a “father” principle connotation.”

This took me some time and deep contemplation to grasp the entirety of, and the great significance of it. But I eventually did. In fact, it ultimately led to a great deal of scientific research I conducted, applying the name to light, sound, and music. I have included some other profound aspects, and an attempt at giving you examples that may help certain of you understand it better. Understanding vibration and music can make it easier.


The cycle of YHVH creation continues as an Infinite spiral. It can best be understood intuitively, but maybe these illustrations will help a bit.



YOD

HE

VAU

HE/YOD.......octave

(Infinite HE

vibrational VAU

spiral) HE/YOD.......octave

HE

VAU

HE/YOD......octave

YHVH makes a spiral (similar to DNA double helix don’t you think?), each Yod in the same place on a circle of the spiral, but just above, or just below - on its own circle. These are “octaves” of vibration, and can represent a micro or macro-cosm world of existence.

To further help understand the way YHVH works, consider the vibrational realm of sound, and facts relating to music.

A common frequency of the musical note of “A” that is universally used to tune instruments, is 440 cycles per second (also called 440 hertz [hz]). But there are an infinite number of “octaves” of "A", above and below 440hz. For instance, the next octave of “A” above that is exactly double, exactly times 2 - i.e., 880 cycles per second, whereas the octave of “A” below that is 220 cycles per second, exactly half, exactly divided by 2. Note that the next higher note of "A" is exactly double, and the next higher one from that is exactly double, etc., and that vibrational doubling will go on infinitely, even after it goes beyond the realm of sound. Likewise, the next lower note of "A" is exactly half the frequency, etc., etc.,



"A" x 2 = "A" x 2 = "A" x 2 = "A" x 2 = "A" (etc., continuing infinitely)

55hz 110hz 220hz 440hz 880hz (etc., continuing infinitely)

octave octave octave octave octave



The "A" represents YOD; the multiplication by 2, represents the HE, and its intercourse (VAU) with the YOD; the next octave is the second HE, which is the offspring or creation of the YOD and HE's intercourse (VAU).

Below is another way of looking at it. In this example, the YOD and the first HE are of equal value (hz), and the combining or intercourse of the two (VAU) is represented by the equals sign (=). The numbers shown below the YHVH's are the cycles per second of octaves of "A".



YOD + HE = HE/YOD + HE = HE/YOD + HE = HE/YOD

110 + 110 = 220 + 220 = 440 + 440 = 880

(again, this continues infinitely up and infinitely down)


Don’t be frustrated if you don’t understand it easily or even for quite a while. I didn’t. Then one day it just hit me and all fell into place.

Yod-He-Vau-He represents many things in One. It is comprised of a numerological sequence that represents all things in the first four numbers. Einstein said we never need to count more than four to understand all things. He understood YHVH. Here are the One, Two, Three. Four. Such as: the Infinite ONE; TWO: the dichotomy, polarities positive and negative, Yin and Yang; THREE: the threefold nature of spiritual, mental, and physical; the Christian Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; etc.. FOUR: the rebirth, the offspring, the cross, crucifixion and the transition to a new plane. Thus YHVH is both the formula of the “primary pattern” - and the formula for the procreation of the primary pattern.

YHVH’s most important representation is: the means of transition and manifestation of creation infinitely throughout ALL. As we have partially shown, this may be seen through studying the Law as it is reflected in music. In one octave of vibration is a Universe! Every octave is a duplicate of another except that it is of a higher or lower frequency. The note “A” is an “A” whether it is played in the highest octave of an instrument range, or the lowest. As the frequency of vibration increases, and goes beyond the range of hearing, it eventually comes within the range of sight. But the same law that dictates the repeating notes of various octaves holds true. Colors are like the notes in the octave of vision. Each color has a “note” - each color is a note, each note is a color. This principle allows you to find any note, in the “octave” of any vibrational frequency band. For instance, you can take the frequency of 440 for the note “A”, and keep doubling it to find the higher octaves. You can keep doubling it past the frequency band of sound, and on into the frequency band of light. You can then match your figures against the known frequencies for colors of light, and precisely determine the color of each note! Who could have imagined you could do such a scientific thing using the oldest name of God?

If one truly understands YHVH, one understands the Law governing all vibration, and all creation.


Cosmic DNA in Space
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/hf_dnanebula_060315_01.jpg

quotes from chapters 1 and 2 of "Science of Being" by Eugene ferson

"Great question- the greatest of all questions- has been asked by humanity for countless ages, "Is there a God?" From the point of view of religion, it is accepted on faith that there is a God, a Divinity, Who is called the Father of Man and of the Universe. But human beings are not satisfied with believing on faith; they want to know, to have irrefutable proofs of the existence of Divinity. Therefore has it become the task of Science to investigate the matter and find an answer to this question, an answer which will satisfy the searching of the rational mind; and science has solved the problem nobly.Through scientific investigation, it discovered that there is a Universal Force which may be termed- Etenal energy, Primal energy- pevading the universe, filling infinite space. If primal energy fills infinite space for one moment, it must be one with eternal space for eternity, because there is no place where it can lose itself. Therefore the basic energy of the universe is found to be infinite, and at the same time eternal. Through further investigation, it was discovered that infinite energy expesses itself in most admirable laws, sublime laws: that it shows the profoundest intelligence and logic, a self conciossness expressed in the divinest terms, laws invariable, true to themselves, mathematically correct, and above all, harmonious and beutiful.

As a result of all this reasoning, was discovered, through its first universal manifestation as primal energy, that which has always exsisted, the eternal unmanifest called god, conciouss of it's own power, law emitting, law abiding. In other words there is a Unit, a One, existing eternally, expressing itself through its creation, the universe, conciously governing it, sustaining it in a condition of eternal harmony, and loving it, for love and harmony are one. Love Is attraction.Thus science has found divinity under another name. Therefore the word "god" which would have been used in "religion", will be substituted a word having deeper meaning, covering broader ground, the word principle."

" That is the great principle is omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent, The great principle has from eternity, out of itself created everything there is. It is it's own center and own circumference. The absolute is present everywhere, whether we are conciouss of it or not. That means that whenever we wish to come in contact with the great principle, we do not need to think of something far distant, unattainable. All we need to do is know the immutable fact that its first manifistation, universal energy, is always about us in full power. Therefore when anyone realises this presence conciously, there it is in its full power. We can agian make the comparisin to the ocean. We cannot say that in any one place in the ocean there is more power than in another. There is power everywhere. Whenever one wishes to contact the ocean, one has simply to dip the hand into the water and one will feel all that the ocean is, and if one puts tha hand in another part of the ocea, one will have the same results. Millions of people can do the same thing, at the same time, and they all will contact the same fullness of the ocean. So it is with the great principle. Whenever we conciously contact the absolute in its manifistation as Universal energy, there it is in all it's omnipotence, because it is all embracing. Therefore it is not correct, as we find in literature, to imagine that there is somewhere in the universe a center of powers and forces from which all forces radiate, acting most strongly on those things which are nearest and more feebly on those farthest away"

" Primal energy, as was explained in the first lesson, is the fundamental force of the universe. It underlies, pervades, and sustains everything, fills all space, endures throughout eternity, and is the source of all power. It is indeed the very life of the universe. As such, it is in perpetual motion, expressing itself through what are called vibrations

In the absolute there is only one kind of vibration, the spiritual. In The present state of human concioussness those spiritual vibrations appear as a three fold ray

1. Life or magnetic vibrations
2.mind vibrations
3.soul vibrations"


" And each kind of vibration is expessing itsef in a different way, which conforms to it's own particular laws"

" Life vibrations are also called magnetic vibrations, because they possess two primary qualites, motion and attraction. In the practical application, those qualities are continually used in oreder to obtain the desired results. Magnetic vibrations are essentailly importan because they not only permeate the whole universe and underlie everything, but because they constitute the very element out of which our bodies and the whole visible universe is made. The great practical value of those Life Vibrations is that we do not need concentration or strong mental effort to contact them. All we need to do is to become concious of their continual flow into us, and thus establish the so called contact. No matter what we do, be it physical, mental, or emotional activity, we should never use our own very limited supply of life enrgy. THis must be the cardinal point to be remebered."


" The question may arise, why is it necessary to make contactwith the universal life energy? Are we not in direct and constant communication with it at all times? Yes, but we are not concious of it. On the contrary, we conciously beleive we are independant of it, that we have a life force of our own. We think we are seperate from all power. Therefore we need to reestblish on the mental plane that which was lost there, though we never lost that contact on the spiritual plane."

" There are different methods of contacting Primal energy. The easiest and the simplest way is through mental contact. In order to do it, we must relax completely as we can, physically, mentally, emotionally. And when we feel harmony within us then we must say to ourslves " I am one with the universal life energy it is flowing through me now, I feel it"


"In order to overcome that difficulty and enable everybody, even the most skeptical and timid, to make successful that conciouss contact with the universal life energy, there is another method of pure physical contact, based on pure physical laws. That second method has this advantage over the mental one, that it does not require any faith in it. It works for the reason that the physical laws are put into operation, and the physical contact with the universal energy is made, not because we think it or want it, but because we cannot help it."

" Yet if we do not think about it, it still will work, because of the aforesaid reasons. The second, the physical method, is based on a certain exercise called the star exercise"


" The heart situated on the left side of the body, is not only the central pumping station which takes in and sends out blood, but also is the apparatus which sucks in and pours out universal life energy"That is from the book " Science of being" written by Eugene ferson in 1920s.
http://www.atlantis.to/books/Peniel's-books.htm

Here is the Star exercise to develop qi flowing inwards as well as outwards together. And to store/charge/refine as well as refine the energy vibration of the energy body. It is in fact the original Ki or Yoga technique

http://www.meditation-techniques.net/medit...tarexercise.htm (http://www.meditation-techniques.net/meditations/starexercise.htm)

http://www.yoga-tibet.com/staranimate2.gif
http://www.yoga-tibet.com/starexcer2people.jpg

The perfect condition is inflowing and outflowing cultivation at the same time. Some qigong starts by connecting to the universe, through the palms, feet, ba hui, or even fingers in mudra positions( fingers are like antennas). Some qigong is very concerned with inward cultivation and sealing the senses, cultivating lotus position and pointing fingers inwards towards the wrists like a hollow fist or hands at dantien. But I think perhaps cultivating lotus position, with energy flowing out the hands is a more advanced posture.

Qi practices also circulate energy and connect flows and acupoints, this is why if you bend forward you will next bend back, if you open you will next close.

The way the Earth's magnetic field is drawn now in modern times, looks almost exactly like how the energy of the human body was pictured and trained in ancient times. Ancient practices face south often too. Also ancient burials in different cultures are along north/South axis. It goes in through the center and out around both sides at different distances and cycles

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/physical_science/images/dipole_small.gif

http://members.fortunecity.com/anemaw/biomagnetism.htm
That article also talks about how animals sense the earth's magnetic field, such as how birds sense the field with the Pineal body, to navigate flight.
It is like how one can be concious of the universe and solar systems

The heart's electromagnetic field for that matter
http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/soh-images/soh_20_pic.gif

Pineal
http://www.crystalinks.com/thirdeyepineal.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/pinealcolors.gif

Qigong is cultivation of the mind's place in the universe, to be open to all power all creation, flowing. Buddhas, and cultivators of buddhahood do a meditation posture in which the first finger bends down to connect to the thumb, symbolising the ego's will bowing to the will of heaven. The Tao has the way of wu wei, action through non action, doing things in accordance with the eternal Tao and nature, and not through self, or the human mind's will. Jesus said you reap what you sow, but that it would be full, pressed down and overflowing. In a Path that became religous over time, there was a saying( in reference to the universal spirit), " your will be done, not mine, in me and through me", and goes on to say, " show me what I must do this day to be a channel of your blessing to all." The more consciouss of the eternal manifestiation of the great priciple, that which creates, consitutes, governs, sustains and contains all, the more in accordance to it's way and flow someone can be, in my understanding. Which can use both physical and mental activities.

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/mudras/images/4mudra1.jpg

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/mudras/images/4mudra2.jpg

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/mudras/images/4mudra3.jpg


http://www.eclecticenergies.com/mudras/images/4mudra4.jpg


http://www.exoticindiaart.com/artimages/bf77.jpg

http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=5842

http://www.buddhanet.net/mudras.htm

http://www.kundaliniyoga.org/mudras.html

"Another interesting meaning is given to the idea of the mudra. It reveals the secret imbibed in the five fingers. In such an interpretation, each of the fingers, starting with the thumb, is identified with one of the five elements, namely the sky, wind, fire, water, and the earth. Their contact with each other symbolizes the synthesis of these elements, significant because every form in this universe is said to be composed of a unique combination of these elements. "

"In the Benediction or blessing mudra the first two fingers and thumb are used--these represents the etheric, air and fire elements of which the formal ritual of the baptism of "fire" is facilitated and enacted."

http://www.indotalisman.com/christmudra1.JPG

http://www.indotalisman.com/christmudra5.jpg


http://www.indotalisman.com/christmudra7.jpg


http://www.geocities.com/johnaugus/heart-icon.jpg

http://www.falundafa.org/book/flgfig/5-12.gif

http://www.indotalisman.com/christmudra2.JPG

http://www.falundafa.org/book/flgfig/4-2.gif

http://www.indotalisman.com/christmudra6.jpg

http://www.indotalisman.com/christmudra4.jpg

Taoist mudra
http://dayan.oompa.net/images/qigong-right-3.jpg
Buddha School Qigong
http://www.falundafa.org/book/flgfig/3-1.gif
Hebrew language
http://www.meru.org/Gestures/frsthand873.jpg


Info concerning how humans evolved and were created in all aspects. On the internet
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce03.html
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/juliet.htm
Some Psychic phenomena has been shown to exist-
http://anson.ucdavis.edu/~utts/air2.html

Kilik
11-28-2006, 08:56 AM
We were all one at one time. There was no seperation, no time or space. But when you are only one, there is only you, nothing "else" to interact with. In order to experience interaction and play, the One divided within itself, into many Ones, many beings and "souls" within the One, and initiating the dimensions of "time" and "space". It was done through vibration.

There is only one begotten son of the Great Prinicple or God, which is the One universe, which is all.

Within the One we were angelic beings, beings that are hard to conceive of in our current state of conciousness today. We were more like thought forms and beings of light free to roam "ourselves", or the entire cosmos of countless dimensions and heavenly paradises.

But within the One, were the "material" planes. Many souls, part of "us", eventually came to the physical plane and descended into it by accident, and we were mixed up and trapped in the material plane in the most sensational materialistic forms. We were initially very impressed with the sensational material plane and some of us came to what is known as Earth and played in it, taking on what seemed like would be very desirable forms. Mixtures of many animals, taking shapes now only found in ancient myths and legends, such as the Minotaur, Centaur, Mermaid etc... Whatever forms were the most sensational, we adopted and formed with our minds and thoughts. But we became hardened and set in materiality and the material plane, and then our previous high level universal conciousness was gone instantly. Our 7 chakras were closed. Our conciousness no longer belonged to the pure spiritual realms since becoming material, but not really belonging in the purity of the material animal realm either, it was inharmonious. We suffered in a pitiful state of conciousness, and they belonged nowhere.

We were essentially "Humanimal" beings, and these humanimals were the first wave of souls that descended to earth


Global Mythology
http://www.feedback.nildram.co.uk/richardebbs/essays/images/mithrasmodern2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/medea19777/Images9/minotaur3.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldtablet.gif
http://www.grahamhancock.com/images/hm/c8/p136.jpg
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/cambodia/1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/medea19777/minotaur.html
http://www.feedback.nildram.co.uk/richarde...says/angels.htm (http://www.feedback.nildram.co.uk/richardebbs/essays/angels.htm)





From the Lost teachings of Atlantis, the teachings of the Children of the Law of One, by Jon Peniel, explaining the past history of Earth in the universe
A Religion that is Not a Religion

Noah paused, and stroked his beard for a moment.

"While the Children of the Law of One™ is a spiritual 'way', and also a monastic order, I suppose you could say it is somewhat like a religion. But, it is not a religion in a couple of very important ways. To start with, none of the above reasons were behind the founding of the Children, nor do they play a part in what they teach. There is no control. Not even an attempt to influence, only to educate and reflect the truth.

To understand why the Children of the Law™ of One was created, and what their foundations are, we need to go back to the beginnings of human life on Earth."

Ooooo, it sounded like we were going to get into some more interesting stuff.

"Please go on," I said.

"I will, just give me a moment." More "beard-stroking meditation" ensued, as he prepared himself to tell us the story.

The Fall

This book devotes an entire chapter to the history of the Children of the Law of One™ , from its Genesis prior to Atlantis, to the present, directly translated from the ancient texts, and my accounts of recent developments. But in the following segment, Noah just briefly describes the specific aspects of that history which led to the creation of the Children. You've heard Darwin, you've heard Genesis. Now you are about to hear another theory, the first one that made sense to me. And according to the Atlantean teachings, Genesis is actually a simplified, loose allegory, based on this.

"The historical records start with the premise that there is One Great Being (God/Universal Spirit) that is All things, including the Universe itself. It divides/multiplies within itself creating us, thus, our history begins with all of us (humans) essentially being part of, and One with God. The records describe us as being spiritual or 'angelic' beings, free to roam, create, and enjoy the Universe. The teachings go on to say that our beginnings on Earth, came in two steps - a 'first wave', and 'second wave' of 'human' (& semi-human) materialization into physical bodies on Earth. At the time, we had the ability to instantly alter our vibration, and instantly create anything we desired, with a mere thought. It was in this way that we 'thought ourselves' into matter, into material existence on Earth. Which began our fall from our angelic state, and Oneness with God.

You have probably heard of mythological beings such as the Minotaur, Centaur, Mermaid, etc.. The Minotaur, had a bull's head and a human body, the Centaur, a human head and torso with a horse's body. You may also have seen pictures of Egyptian 'gods' with animal heads and human bodies, or animal bodies and human heads (like the Sphinx). In the Pacific regions, ancient drawings and carvings of 'bird headed' humans can be found on both sides of the ocean. Why do you think so much of this exists? Many legends and myths have some foundation in fact, and this is no exception. The ancient teachings from Atlantis, reveal that such creatures did indeed exist, and that their origins were not what you might expect - they were the fallen angelic beings from the 'first wave' of materialization on Earth."

"Fallen angels??? You mean like Lucifer?"

"Well, yes and no. You have a misconception of sorts. That is a personalized concept from the allegory. The first wave of materialization was a terrible mistake [Author's note: this will be explained in greater detail in the history chapter]. The first wave beings materialized as partly human/partly animal creatures. This is why in the story of Lucifer, or the various creatures that were called 'devils' or demons or whatever, appear as horned, cloven hoofed creatures with tails - the fact is, they were part goat. This is why goats have become associated with the devil also. But evil, is an entirely different matter. Think not that evil does not exist. But true evil, disguises itself, and points the finger at innocents."

"So Lucifer was not evil?"

"Not initially. The stories you have heard have become terribly mixed up. Even the bible originally paints him as a great angel. But there was no 'rebellion' or defiance against the will of God until AFTER this fall, not prior to the fall as is often depicted. It was just a mistake at first. Try telling one person in the meeting hall a story, and ask him to repeat it quietly to the next, and the next person to the next, until it comes back to you. By the time you hear your original story, it will not even be recognizable. That is why our teaching methods are so stringent. We must keep the truth straight, and consistent, and this has been assured by our forbearers.

Getting back to the primary teaching today, there were more 'fallen angels' than Lucifer. And they took many different part animal forms. For ease of description we call the part human, part animal beings that fell into physical vibration or matter, during the 'first wave' of materialization, 'humanimals'. As soon as the first wave beings materialized in their 'humanimal' bodies, they suffered a great 'fall' in vibration from their previous spiritual, angelic state of existence. They instantly experienced a near total loss of consciousness, awareness, and intelligence. In less than the twinkling of an eye, the consciousness that just moments before, had encompassed the entire Universe, and experienced Oneness with the Universal Spirit/God, was virtually gone. The new limited consciousness of these pitiful creatures, 'trapped' them on the physical plane of the Earth, where they had to live in ignorance, with their animal-like intelligence and awareness. They were suddenly isolated from Universal/God Consciousness, and trapped in the lonely anguish of 'separate' consciousness. This separate consciousness gave birth to a sort of separate free will, which was ignorantly used selfishly, rather than in harmony with the will of God. Ultimately, they would also be trapped in slavery. Evil is spawned by selfishness, but later, even greater degrees of evil came about (which we will discuss more later). Yet all selfishness and evil, has since mistakenly been blamed on these poor unfortunate 'first waver humanimals'. To be sure, some had horns, and tails, and cloven hoofs - but they have been used as 'scape goats', and diversions, in order for others, including regular humans, to avoid taking personal responsibility for the real evil, the real devil, which is the selfishness living inside each human who maintains separate consciousness from the Oneness of God."

Other novice monks in the class, including me, immediately responded with a flurry of questions.

"What do you mean?"

"How can this be?"

"How did it happen?"

"Slow down," Noah said. "One question at a time please. All will be answered in time.

Remember, we were spirits only. Very 'fine', 'high-frequency' vibrational beings, with no experience in this physical realm. These humanimals came upon their terrible fate because of a rapid, uncontrolled slowing down of their vibrational frequencies, for purposes of materialization of their spiritual selves into the material plane of the Earth. It occurred in a way that cut them off from their normal consciousness, like changing the dials on a radio to an area of radio frequency that had nothing to receive. Their 'internal radio' of consciousness, was no longer 'tuned in' to God. It was a materialization that went too far, too deep, into the dense, slow vibrations of the physical plane. When the finer frequencies were 'cut off', they were left 'cut off' from God and the rest of spiritual creation, and thus the consciousness of the Oneness of the Universe - the consciousness of God - the Universal Spirit. This left them with only a 'separate self consciousness', that lost touch with 'Oneness Consciousness', or 'Universal Consciousness'.

"Then why aren't all of us still lost, and out of touch with God?"

"A couple of reasons. Some of us did not make this 'fall'. Those who didn't fall, were still in their angelic state, and watched all this happen to the first wavers. Our grand master [Author's note: later known as Jesus in his last life on Earth], organized and led a rescue mission. With their great Love and compassion, many of the other angelic beings who had not 'fallen', decided to help the trapped first wavers, even at great risk of the same fate. They became what we call the 'second wavers'.

The second wavers knew they could only help the first wavers, if they too, materialized in forms that would allow them to work on the lost souls (the humanimal creatures) in their own physical form and dimension. And the grand master and various angelic volunteers, knew that in order to do that, it would require lowering their own vibration, towards that of the physical plane, and subsequently lowering their consciousness to some extent. They knew this was dangerous, and that they had to be very careful how they did this, and be careful about how deeply they went into physical matter, or they too would become trapped in limited consciousness just as the humanimals were. Thus the ancient Atlantean teachings describe how this second wave, became the first consciously controlled thought projection, or materialization, of modern 'human' life on Earth (or at least they eventually became modern humans as they gradually solidified into the material plane from their spiritual 'angelic' state). The ape-like early human form was actually just eventually chosen by second wavers as the preferred type of physical vehicle to model themselves after, because it allowed for the greatest control and manipulation in the physical plane, that would be required to help the first wavers. That is why scientists cannot find the 'missing link' - because there simply is none. Because while evolutionary change certainly does exist, our present existence on Earth did not involve evolving for millions of years from apes."

Again, if the above theory of creation that is offered by the ancient Atlantean teachings, is disagreeable to you - no "biggy", that's OK. There are all kinds of theories of creation, that people are VERY intense and pushy about. We aren't.

Scientists are supposed to stay objective, and stick to proven facts, and if they can't present absolutely proven facts, they are supposed to present their ideas as "theories", and only as "theories". Yet many alleged "scientists", have sneakily insinuated, and taught the "theory" of evolution of humans from apes, as FACT, even when they have a huge gap, a huge "missing link" in their "theory"- they have not found a direct ancestral lineage of modern man, that connects the whole evolution of apes and "cave men" types of semi-ape, semi-humans. And on the flip side of the evolutionist theories, many religions have followers, and thus money and power at stake. Unlike both of those categories, we have nothing at stake, nothing to prove, nothing to lose or gain since we don't make money or get power from the teachings we present. While we have had personally viewed it as an historical, written record, you are welcome to "take them or leave them". We really, really don't care if you believe the concepts of history or creation presented in this book, or not. If it "rings the bell of truth" for you, fine. If it doesn't, that's OKtoo. We obviously can't prove ancient history, nor do we feel it is important. It isn't important. We really, truly, don't care about any of those intellectual ideas, theories, or concepts. We DO care about the reality of human life and suffering, NOW. The things that really impact everyone's lives on Earth. So what we want, and what we really care about, is simply for everyone to be kind, caring, compassionate, and harmless. Is it really too much to ask even if you believe you are descended from an ape? Is it really too much to ask if you believe God created you out of Adam's rib? Who cares? We don't think it's too much to ask. Regardless of what you believe, don't believe, or have faith in, or don't have faith in. The same goes for everything else you read in this book - who cares? Be nice. Let's all be real caring friends and family.

The Creation of The Children of the Law of One™

Before Noah could catch his breath, I began my eager questioning again, "So the second wave of materialization began as a 'rescue' operation of sorts - to save the 'humanimal' beings who 'fell' in the first wave? Please tell me more about who organized this, and how could they do anything about it?"

"Who, we will discuss later. Please just let me finish relating this part of the teachings.

In order to accomplish this 'rescue' as you called it, two things had to be done. One, methods had to be devised that would help the humanimals REGAIN their spiritual consciousness and awareness of Oneness with the Universal Spirit; and two, methods had to be devised for the second wavers to MAINTAIN their spiritual consciousness and awareness of Oneness with the Universal Spirit. To both these ends, second wave beings founded the spiritual path of the Children of the Law of One™ , and created the methods and teachings that are still in use, and valid, today.

Thus, the spiritual order of the Children of the Law of One™ was founded with a very specific and unique purpose. And while this order included aspects of what would later become numerous 'religions', the Children of the Law of One™ was unlike any other religion that would ever appear on Earth. And remains so. It was NOT created to fill a need in people's hearts and minds, NOR to strike fear into their hearts, NOR to worship anyone or anything, NOR to answer the spiritual questions that arose in the spiritually ignorant masses, NOR to control those masses. It was created before all those issues even existed."

"So the Children are not really a religion in a sense?"

"No. By many modern definitions, it could be considered such. But again, the whole point of the Children's materialization was to rescue their 'trapped' kin, by returning the first wavers to their angelic state of existence and awareness (Universal Consciousness). Thus the whole point of the Children's spiritual path, was to be able to enter the material plane so they could help the first wavers, while maintaining their own spiritual consciousness and angelic state, so they wouldn't get trapped also. If I may continue.

Falling Again

As the second wave rescue mission gradually descended into materiality and human form, some of them, lured by selfish desires, turned away from the Children's spiritual path. They then lost spiritual awareness, and separated from Oneness with God. Ultimately, this division created two 'religious' or 'philosophical' groups in Atlantis with very different purposes and 'politics' - the Sons of Belial and the Children of the Law of One™ .

The Sons of Belial mimicked the Children in many ways, even in the sense of being 'spiritual' or 'religious'. But their 'religious practices' were mockeries of true spirituality - phony, empty, and self-serving. They would use 'prayer' and visualization to attain whatever they wanted, and they turned a blind eye to what the repercussions of getting what they wanted would have on others. Some popular present-day religions, are offspring of the Belialian religion. And then there are the secret societies that still practice their original ways. In Atlantis, the most significant contention between the Children and the Belialians was over what to do about the humanimals. The humanimals were easily controlled by the powers of a second waver's mind, and they could be made to do anything just through visualization. Since the Belialians had turned away from their awareness of Oneness with God in favor of selfishness, they wanted to use the 'humanimals' as 'pet slaves'. The Children, however, still wanted to help return the humanimals to their higher state of consciousness. Thus the Children also became 'activists', and their goal as a group 'movement' was still to free their trapped kin, but now they also had to contend with other SECOND wavers who had 'gone bad'."

"So Noah, did the Children win out over the Belialians - there aren't any humanimals walking the Earth any more, right? Were they all killed, or rescued?"

"I'll answer that in a moment, but first let me say that even the best of the Children of the Law of One™ , eventually succumbed to some degree, to the separation from the Universal Spirit. But that is another story, which involves the allegory of Adam & Eve.

"Now, to answer your question, while part of the Children's goal was eventually achieved (the humanimals were freed from their animal entanglement after the destruction of Atlantis), freedom from darkness and slavery has not been fully accomplished. The battle continues. As far as the first wavers go, reincarnated humanimals still walk the Earth in normal human bodies - you have seen them. If you are observant, you can see subtle animal traits, mannerisms, or facial appearances on many of the people of the world. But humanimals or not, the age old struggle between the Children and the Belialians - the struggle of freedom against slavery, still continues. These days slavery can be in many forms, traditional, economic, socio-political oppression, imprisonment, and mental programming. The world is basically populated by five groups, the Children, Belialians, reincarnated "lost soul" first and second wavers, and the enlightened. Most from both the first and second waves, are still separate in consciousness from the Universal Spirit. That makes them easy prey for the Belialians, and they either become their pawns in one way or another, or their slaves in one way or another. [Author's note - In previous editions of this book, the only description of Belialians was that of the old teachings. This left many people confused about who and what they were, and how they look in modern times. Belialians are not some kind of genetic creatures who have physically lived and survived for thousands of years. Like all of us, they have continued to reincarnate, and live in modern human bodies. But they are so evil, those of us who are sensitive to it can sense or feel that. This can sometimes even be physically or intuitively seen as being reptilian-like, or as the old teachings call it, "lizard-like". But whether you see or sense this yourself, you can know them by their agenda. Lifetime after lifetime, they maintain their maniacal drive for power and agenda of slavery and domination. Many of them are the people who run the world. The upper echelon are the real power people pulling the strings behind the scenes. Like Initiate monks of the Children, the higher level Belialians are totally conscious and aware of who they are, and what they are doing. The middle and lower echelon are sometimes in the forefront, or in the public eye, functioning as political, military or business leaders who are apparently not being told what to do - yet they really are. Of course some leaders are just pawns, and not consciously aware of who they serve (and wouldn't care anyway). Belialians are usually born to rich and powerful families who are already of the Belialian heritage, and their families train them and continue to pass on their tradition. They go to the best schools and join the "right" "special" fraternities and sororities. They are trained in the ways of using visualization and ritual to practice their dark magic. They always want more money and power. They want to maintain economic slavery and child labor slavery in the world, and even worse. They want a state of total monitoring and control of all people (and they have been making great strides in this). They will use physical force to dominate and control if necessary, but mental programming through education, media, peer pressure, or other means, has been extremely successful - and parents continue to pass their own programming on to their children also. Examine world history and you see these struggles continuing through time - entire groups of evil oppressors trying to enslave. We have continued to fight them, and they continue to fight us. Just as many of the scientific advances have come from reincarnated Atlantean scientists, so too have those with thirst for power and control at any cost, come from reincarnated Belialians. They continue to develop more sophisticated ways to keep people under their control. So how do you identify them? Again, you can feel it, and sometimes see it when you look into their eyes. But anyone whose agenda is control of others, is either Belialian, or one of their pawns. They care only about themselves and would be willing to harm anyone or even everyone on the planet if it helps them get more power - and they can do this all with a big smile and warm handshake (which many people "buy" into as being a "nice" person). Ask yourself if this could be true, and feel the response from your inner voice.] Noah continues:

So our 'religion', and work, continues on. And now, because of the time and situation, you [he pointed at me!], will soon be publicly revealing the teachings of the Children, and heralding the coming spiritual changes.

Remember, because of the unique nature and purity of the Atlantean Children's spiritual way, it is as valuable today as it was then. Their teachings and methods can help anyone return to the Universal Spirit, achieve enlightenment, and live in harmony with Universal Law & Universal Will."

"Thank you Noah."

"It was my honor to help you." And with that, he bowed and kissed my hand with the feeling of love and respect that one might only expect to see offered to his teacher, or the head of the order. It was rather shocking to me, because I felt I wasn't worthy of it, didn't deserve it, and that it wasn't appropriate for someone of my humble station. But he was honoring who I was inside, which at the time, I didn't really see in myself (even though my ego thought it did). Nevertheless, it was there, just waiting to manifest. [Author's note: Now, as I deal with my students and others, I also see who they really are inside - their potential - and support that. We relate to that as well as their present level of consciousness. To reinforce and strengthen the Inner Being, while attacking and starving the selfish separate self, is our constant function and duty]. Then Noah put his hands together and made a gesture of spiritual respect to the other novice monks in the chamber, and crawled off through the little door.

Originally, when the humanimals first materialized, some of us did not come to the material plane. We were aware of their situation, and we felt their pain of being trapped in materiality. They were after all, a part of us, they were us.

We decided to help them no matter the cost. We knew this could only be done if some of us also descended to earth, and we knew it was risky.

We needed a vehicle which could exist in the material plane, but could also enable us to be able to regain out previous universal conciousness once on earth.

It was done more or less successfully, so we started out were semi-etheric beings of light, or energy. Matter but not matter. Macrocosms of the One, Soul Groups, like Solar Systems,with both polarities and sexes harmoniously interacting within the one larger body.

The being who lead the rescue mission, was named Amilleous, or "Adam". In anothr incarnation he became known as the Great Atlantean Thoth

From a Tablet written by the Great Atlantean Priest, Grandmaster Thoth, Speaking on why some high level beings of the light have come to this physical plane and created the human race
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Far in a past time, lost in the space time,
the Children of Light looked down on the world.
Seeing the children of men in their bondage,
bound by the force that came from beyond.
Knew they that only by freedom from bondage
could man ever rise from the Earth to the Sun.

Down they descended and created bodies,
taking the semblance of men as their own.
The Masters of everything said after their forming:

"We are they who were formed from the space-dust,
partaking of life from the infinite ALL;
living in the world as children of men,
like and yet unlike the children of men."

Then for a dwelling place, far 'neath the earth crust,
blasted great spaces they by their power,
spaces apart from the children of men.
Surrounded them by forces and power,
shielded from harm they the Halls of the Dead.

Side by side then, placed they other spaces,
filled them with Life and with Light from above.
Builded they then the Halls of Amenti,
that they might dwell eternally there,
living with life to eternity's end.


Thirty and two were there of the children,
sons of Lights who had come among men,
seeking to free from the bondage of darkness
those who were bound by the force from beyond.

Deep in the Halls of Life grew a flower, flaming,
expanding, driving backward the night.

Placed in the centre, a ray of great potence, Life
giving, Light giving, filling with power all who came near it.
Placed they around it thrones, two and thirty,
places for each of the Children of Light,
placed so that they were bathed in the radiance,
filled with the Life from the eternal Light.

There time after time placed they their first created bodies
so that they might by filled with the Spirit of Life.
One hundred years out of each thousand must the
Life-giving Light flame forth on their bodies.
Quickening, awakening the Spirit of Life.

There in the circle from aeon to aeon,
sit the Great Masters,
living a life not known among men.
There in the Halls of Life they lie sleeping;
free flows their Soul through the bodies of men.

Time after time, while their bodies lie sleeping,
incarnate they in the bodies of men.
Teaching and guiding onward and upward,
out of the darkness into the light.




It started out well, however, the temptation of power, sensationalism, and selfish conciousness in the material plane began to creep in. And we began to seperate into the 2 sexes, and harden into materiality

The primitive animals and humanoid creatures of earth were used as a model. But humans never evolved from any apes, animals or cavemen. That's why the missing link has never been found, there simply is none


Interpretation of Edgar Cayce readings
Homo sapiens appeared in five different places on earth at the same time, as the five races. This evolved human is what the Bible refers to as "Adam". When souls incarnated into physical form, it would bring the divine consciousness (i.e., the spirit) in with it. Cayce referred to this divine consciousness as the "Christ Consciousness" or "Buddhahood" or the "superconsciousness". Christ consciousness has little to do with the personality known as Jesus. It means that a person has attained a complete human-divine unity. This human-divine unity has been attained by many people thus far - one such person was Jesus.

From Edgar Cayce-
In the period, then -- some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years before the entry of Ram into India -- there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius, who had first noted that of the separations of the beings as inhabited that portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those peoples into male and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were much rather of the nature of thought forms, or able to push out of themselves in that direction in which its development took shape in thought -- much in the way and manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake in the present. As these took form, by the gratifying of their own desire for that as built or added to the material conditions, they became hardened or set -- much in the form of the existent human body of the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into that form as the red, or the mixture peoples -- or colors; known then later by the associations as red race. These, then, able to use in their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of developments as has been followed more closely in that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others -- and while the destruction of this continent and the peoples are far beyond any of that as has been kept as an absolute record, that record in the rocks still remains -- as has that influence of those peoples in that life of those peoples to whom those did escape during the periods of destruction make or influence the lives of those peoples to whom they came. As they may in the present, either through the direct influence of being regenerated, or reincarnated into the earth, or through that of the mental application on through the influences as may be had upon thought of individuals or groups by speaking from that environ.

As to the supplying of that as necessary to sustain physical life as known today, in apparel, or supplying of the bodily needs, these were supplied through the natural elements; and the developments came rather in the forms -- as would be termed in the present day -- of preparing for those things that would pertain to what would be termed the aerial age, or the electrical age, and supplying then the modes and manners of transposition of those materials about same that did not pertain to themselves bodily; for of themselves this was transposed, rather by that ability lying within each to be transposed in thought as in body.

Q. Was Atlantis one of the five points at which man appeared in the beginning, being the home of the red race?

A. One of the five points. As has been given, in what is known as Gobi, India, in Carpathia, or in that known as the Andes, and that known as in the western plain of what is now called America -- the five places. In their presentation, as we find, these -- in the five places, as man (Let's get the difference in that as first appeared (as thought forms) in what is known as Atlantis, and that as man appearing from those projections in the five places -- and, as has been given, from their environ took on that as became necessary for the meeting of those varying conditions under which their individualities and personalities began to put on form) -- one in the white, another in the brown, another in the black, another in the red. These, as we find, taking that form -- Would snow be the place for the black? or the sun the place for the white? or the desert and the hills for the white or the black? as were partakers of those things that brought about those variations in that which enters, or becomes as the outer presentation, or the skin, or the pigment that is presented in same.

Q. Did the appearance of the five races occur simultaneously?

A. Occurred at once.

Q. Describe the earth's surface at the period of the five projections?

A. This has been given. In the first, or that known as the beginning, or in the Caucasian and Carpathian, or the Garden of Eden, in that land which lies now much in the desert, yet much in mountain and much in rolling lands there. The extreme northern portions were then the southern portions, or the polar regions were then turned to where they occupied more of the tropical and semi-tropical regions; hence it would be hard to discern or discriminate the change. The Nile entered into the Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Sahara was an inhabited land and very fertile. What is now the central portion of this country, or the Mississippi basin, was then all in the ocean; only the plateau was existent, or the regions that are now portions of Nevada, Utah and Arizona formed the greater part of what we know as the United States. That along the Atlantic board formed the outer portion then, or the lowlands of Atlantis. The Andean, or the Pacific coast of South America, occupied then the extreme portion of Lemuria. The Urals and the northern regions of same were turned into a tropical land. The desert in the Mongolian land was then the fertile portion. This may enable you to form some concept of the status of the earth's representation at that time! The oceans were then turned about; they no longer bear their names, yet from whence obtained they their names? What is the legend, even as to their names?



DNA evidence confirms these timelines and matches the Edgar Cayce readings
http://www.edgarcayce.org/am/geneticevidence.html




Since the divine beings and soul groups who formed what became the human bodies in the physical realms had the capacity for enlightenment, they could easily control the mixed up humanimal createres. Some wanted to use them as slaves, others wanted only to help them.

Some wanted to use humanimals as slaves, and also began to destroy the environment

There became a division in Atlantis, between the Children of the Law of One who wanted only to help others, and The Sons of Belial who wanted power and control over others

Info on Atlantis
http://www.shellac.org/slu/scayce01.html
The earliest Atlanteans are described by Cayce as being thought projections and having a physical being in which both sexes, male and female, were present in the same 'body'. Unfortunately, however, corruption from the pure, virginal, ways of the Spirit/God soon cast a heavy cloud upon the earth.

These Atlantean thought-form 'beings' - projecting 'vibrations' of pure white light and energy - gradually began to take on a more material shape and density and began to engage upon acts of sheer self-indulgence. These physically-encased thought-form projections, through the passage of time, began to separate into two groups; those who followed the Laws of One and those that chose to follow the Sons of Belial.

The Law of One still maintained the highest standards of consciousness and were able to continue vibrating at only the very highest level of light and energy; and still remained very close and true to the one Creator/God.

The Sons of Belial, on the other hand, were only interested in the amplification of the ego, self-aggrandizement and carnal pursuits. They tried to introduce the daughters of the Law of One to the pleasures of the flesh (with some considerable success!) and did their best to try and control all the spiritual laws to enhance all their materialistic purposes.

As time passed by, many of the original members of the Law of One fell by the wayside and found it much easier to follow the dictates of the Sons of Belial than remain true to their original standards and ethics!

The early Atlanteans lived in groups but not as households or families as we know them today! There were priests, laborers, producers, farmers, artisans, time-keepers and a most interesting and puzzling group which Cayce described as 'things' or 'mere machines'. One of the 'arguments' between the Law of One and the Sons of Belial was over the treatment and use of these 'things' . . .

Gradually, a civilization was created in Atlantis which surpassed all historical empires - past, present and future - in its scientific and economic achievements. The Atlanteans appeared to have developed technology which allowed them to have created aircraft, air-balloons, submarines, elevators, a broadcasting system, and even computers! The aircraft and submarines were also used for destructive purposes as well as for the benefit of the Atlantean population.

Other 'dual-purpose' discoveries included a death-ray, explosives, radioactive forces and atomic energy. As the Atlanteans began to increase their knowledge and understanding of all these destructive forces, the natural balance of nature precipitated the first destruction of Atlantis.

The only dated event in the life-readings, which may be associated with the first Atlantean destruction was the summit meeting of the countries of the world held in 50,722 BC. This meeting was brought about by the invasion of Atlantis by the giant members of the animal kingdom! The decisions of the countries which attended this summit-meeting are not clear. However, the Sons of Belial appear to have misused their knowledge in their attempts to destroy the invading animals.

Despite the best efforts of the Sons of Belial it appears that the animals were eventually destroyed by the power of Spirit/God, ice and through movement of the North/South Pole axis.

The effects and the extent of the first Atlantean Disaster was such that the Continent was broken up into five islands. On every occasion when Atlantis suffered cataclysmic disaster, its civilization was very advanced scientifically and technologically.

By the time of the second major disaster - about 28,000 BC - the Atlanteans were able to travel in every element; air, water and on land! Not only did they have aircraft but they also had guided craft as well.

The Atlanteans enjoyed all our 'modern' developments and many which yet remain undiscovered by our present day inventors and scientists. Machines and lasers were used in Atlantis for the rejuvenation of the body. Atlantean technology could also assist in developing one's psychic abilities, including telepathy and astral traveling.

Just prior to the second destruction of Atlantis, the Atlanteans had become, once again, more decadent and corrupt. The Law of One and the Sons of Belial engaged in lengthy disputes. One of these disputes was over the use of the group which Cayce termed 'things'. Should they be used as beasts of burden, workers in clay, in mills? Some Atlanteans appear to have aided them in their development; others preferred to exploit them!

As before the first destruction, spiritual laws were being applied to material gain. And although the Atlantean people appear to have had repeated warnings of the impending disaster, the majority seemed to have totally ignored them and continued to misuse their knowledge and power. This second 'destruction' resulted in a considerable loss of land and in climactic changes.

After the second 'destruction', the Atlanteans were forced to make many adjustments and alterations to the new conditions which they faced. Their scientific achievements were still considerable, although they do not appear to now be as advanced as in the two previous eras.

The previous disasters had left Atlantis as a group of Islands, the chief ones being called, Poseidia, Aryan and Og. There was a perpetual state of unrest and rebellion throughout the whole continent. The differences and on-going disagreements between the Law of One and the Sons of Belial did not diminish. And the Sons of Belial continued to divert the Spiritual Laws of knowledge and understanding for their own pleasure and to exert as much power as possible over the Atlantean population. And it was the Sons of Belial who instigated the final - terminal - devastation and destruction of Atlantis through their continued use of all their destructive energies and powers.

Although the destruction itself - when it came - may have appeared fairly sudden, many advanced warnings were given of what was going to occur. Those members of the Law of One - who had remained uncorrupted - took charge of arranging for the 'transportation' of those Atlanteans who were 'allowed' to leave. The Law of One also ensured that the records of knowledge and understanding were 'hidden' in the Sphinx and certain precautions were activated to make absolutely certain that these records would not be re-discovered for many thousands of years until the time was 'right' . . .

The saying is something like "From Age to Age I am Incarnate. To Support the Good, and oppose the evil."
click on link if image doesn't work
http://www.abcgallery.com/D/duccio/duccio73.html
http://www.abcgallery.com/D/duccio/duccio73.JPG

http://www.abcgallery.com/D/duccio/duccio73.JPG

Evil -
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sgt_stryker/hitler.gif
http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/j/pics/jiang-zemin.jpg
http://www.asia-home.com/china/images/jiangzm.jpg
http://galactic.to/azb9152a/grey_1.jpg
http://www.photomosaic.com/rt/examples/alien.jpg

Interesting ancient finds from around the world
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992589/posts
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar5i.htm
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar6i.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/pyramidchina.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm

Even National Geographic admits prehistoric civilization are submerged under the sea
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...nkencities.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0528_020528_sunkencities.html)

Info-
http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm

High level, perhaps dangerous level power, terra forming?
http://www.s8int.com/water1.html
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/greatbluehole.html
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/4/28/1582.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic2.html
http://ufoevidence.conforums.com/index.cgi...&num=1057134096 (http://ufoevidence.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=MYTH&action=display&num=1057134096)
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photogra...ize/photo2.html (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/galleries/belize/photo2.html)
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue18/18bermuda.html

The past goes back along ways, Columbus was not the first here
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/mexico/2.htm
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0923/p13s01-stgn.html

Underground tunnels are mentioned in many supposed unrelated teachings. Such as the DSS and Hopi prophecy
http://www.marsearthconnection.com/etot3.html

Redating the sphinx-
http://members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx1.html
http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/

Underground pictures. Under every layer is a deeper level, Hall of Records, Perhaps Thoths Chamber or Ship-
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html

Megaliths submerged under the sea off of Cuba
According to the investigators, these structures seem to be remains of streets, pyramids and buildings. Most of these blocks have gigantic dimensions, reaching to five meters of height and several tons of weight.
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/C/CubaSideScanSonars.jpg

Internal Cross
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/imagen/cruz2.gif
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/11/17/photos/wire-habit.jpg

24 miles across terra forming
http://www.s8int.com/images/bahamas2.jpg

up close, unidentified line
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/C/CubaStoneLine5.jpg

Squared off large block of granite-like stone amid megalithic structures
a half mile deep covering an estimated 10 square kilometers
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/C/CubaStoneSquared6.jpg
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/C/CubaBestPyramid8.jpg
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/C/CubaRockTriangle9.jpg

Belize. Massively drilled botomless holes by dark Belilian Atlanteans. To exctract molten power from deep inside the earth, which created unstable land and Atlantis eventually sank from unnatural volcanoes, drilled holes, and widespread severe environmental destruction and pollution which made the earth more unstable
Click on link
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/greatbluehole.html
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/artparks/blueholemed.jpg
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/galleries/belize/images/primary/BlueHole_DD_n.jpg
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/artparks/blueholemed.jpg

Map
http://www.caribbeanmag.com/maps/CentralAmericaMap.jpg

Kilik
11-28-2006, 08:59 AM
Some of those of the light, retreated to Egypt and built the Great Pyramids there
http://www.crystalinks.com/hieroplanes.gif
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2_ps.jpg

Pyramids of Egypt
http://www.guardians.net/egypt/GP/images/gpext98a.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Pyramids_of_Egypt1.jpg/300px-Pyramids_of_Egypt1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Pyramide1r.jpg/333px-Pyramide1r.jpg
http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen/The-Great-Pyramid.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/2191/images/Pyramid.jpg
http://www.hobotraveler.com/blogphotos/blog182pyramidsofegypt08_05_08.jpg
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/images/great_pyramid/great_pyramid_22.jpg
http://www.guardians.net/egypt/GP/images/gp-kc98e.jpg
http://www.guardians.net/egypt/GP/images/gp-kc98f.jpg

Chinese and Tibetan Pyramids
http://members.tripod.com/~arescott/pathways/pyrofchi.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/tibetpyr.gif

I remember seeing on a show something about the layout of the places where the pyramids were built on different continents, Egypt and mexico , being 1/100,000th of the earths suface, perhaps using earth meridians, no one knew for sure how they measured it
http://www.world-mysteries.com/gp_ps.jpg

The Math of the the Egyptian God Thoth. It is similar to Chinese philosophy. Thoth was an Atlantean.
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/240EgMay.gif
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/eghier.html

A page with info about the Tarot-
http://www.crystalinks.com/tarot.html

The Fool card, appears on a journey to Shargung La-
http://www.crystalinks.com/fool.gif

Thoth was the top Egyptian God, but actually an Atlantean. He was Hermes, Jesus Christ, Adam in other lives. Seeing the signs of the coming destruction of Atlantis, just prior to the final destruction, he and his soul mate Atlanteans went around the world, to Egypt, Pyranees, the Yucutan, and finally Tibet. He and Atlanteans set up proper monastaries for cultivation, and helped raise all kindred spirits trapped in this plane, to at least the current human body level and could now incarnate as the human beings of today. He put the knowledge and mysteries of enlightenment into secret oracles such as the Tarot card, making it hard to understand by many people, and only the most sinscere would find the way. In this way the skills, methods, and teachings of Atlantis could be preserved until today.

http://www.alchemylab.com/hyper_history.htm
The teachings of Hermes -- the Hermetic tradition -- is one of the oldest spiritual traditions in the world, and while no direct evidence links the Emerald Tablet to Eastern religions, it shares uncanny similarities in concepts and terminology with Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism.


http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald14bw.html

"Preserve them and guard them,
hide them in symbols,
so the profane will laugh and renounce.
In every land, form ye the mysteries.
Make the way hard for the seeker to tread.

Thus will the weak and the wavering be rejected.
Thus will the secrets be hidden and guarded,


held till the time when the wheel shall be turned." http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

"Now give I the Key to Shamballa,
the place where my Brothers live in the darkness:
Darkness but filled with Light of the Sun
ODarkness of Earth, but Light of the Spirit,
guides for ye when my day is done." http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald15bw.html

Many ki practices originate from Tibetan mountains and even the Shargung La area in Tibet
http://www.railriders.com/store/article/18?&archive_link=yes
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/photo/index.html
"Western logic is inadequate to explain certain phenomena that we experienced here," says Gil. "We saw rivers flowing side-by-side but in opposite directions. We would be guided back onto lost trails by Tibetan priests directing us to follow brilliant double rainbows. Local hunters would miraculously appear out of the mists to lead us to our next destination.
http://www.atlantis.to/spirituality-articles.htm
http://a1608.g.akamai.net/7/1608/1365/7c47f8a853f0d9/away.com/images/outside/200207/tsangpo_namcha.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan8aM.jpg
http://www.railriders.com/images/shangri-la3.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan04M.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan16aM.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan03M.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan17aM.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan11M.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan21M.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan20aM.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan07M.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan26M.jpg

http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan29M.jpg
http://www.hiddenfalls.org/images/scan31M.jpg
http://www.spaceimaging.com/newsroom/photos/2002/tsangpo_800.jpg


So atlantis and ancient civilisations were destroyed, but some remnants of the culture remained. The knowledge had to be kept hidden to kings and emperors while the people with the knowledge could still work in society, either teaching about spirituality, or working to improve the world in other ways. "Gypsies" had the tarot card, which start and end with the fool card, a fool for the universal will. The Kaballah in the west is also related as well as the I ching.in the east.

An Atlantean Headquarters, and primary monastery was constructed at Shargung La in Tibet. Throughout time, some of the Atlantean monks made the sacrifice to leave the monastery and teach the world, their teachings would become world religions and be branches of the CLO. Then over time, branches of the branches would appear in the human world.

The Children of the Law of One have always had to be on guard for attacks from the Sons of Belial who attempt to destroy and kill the CLO


Chinese Astrology
http://chikungintl.com/+-trigramcl.jpg
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/LoPan.html

http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/LoPan.gif

Zodiac in Egypt
http://home.maine.rr.com/imyunnut/den.s2.jpg
http://home.maine.rr.com/imyunnut/Den.Round.html
http://www.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al1.htm

Kabbalah astrology
http://www.prs.org/gallery-kabblh.htm
http://www.prs.org/images/linart/m72god.jpg
"This rare cut shows the name of God in seventy-two languages inscribed upon the petals of a symbolic sunflower. Above the circle are the seventy-two powers of God according to the Hebrew Kabbalah. Below are two trees, that on the left bearing the symbols of the planets and that on the right the signs of the zodiac and the names of the tribes of Israel. The esoteric doctrines of the Kabbalah are in alignment with the secret teachings of all the schools of philosophy, but the method by which its secrets are revealed to the wise and concealed from the ignorant is most unusual."

Kilik
11-28-2006, 09:02 AM
Ancient spiritual groups in the past, some systems such as the Essenes or Great White brotherhood came from and were related to the east as well. The Essenes appeared in the west around 500 BC. The purpose was to live virtuosly and to create a perfect eenvironment and physical body for the grandmaster, who was Amilleous, Thoth, Joseph, and others in previous incarnations, to incarnate as Jesus Christ and be a teacher and an example for all people to follow. Jesus, John the Baptist, and Mary were Essenes
http://essenes.net/lifein.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/dss.html

http://www.edgarcayce.org/ancient_mysterie...ient_index.html (http://www.edgarcayce.org/ancient_mysteries/ancient_index.html)

Essenes
http://essenes.net/ng.jpg
http://essenes.net/carmelcell.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/dsscavefour.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/dsscave.gif
http://essenes.net/2cave.jpg
http://essenes.net/siahcells.jpg
http://essenes.net/steps.jpg
http://essenes.net/ppp.jpg
http://essenes.net/eee.jpg

http://essenes.net/Church%20ship%20toward%20east%20west%20seen..jpg
http://essenes.net/Into%20the%20southern%20slope%20dug%20cave%20above%20the%20cell%20of%20the%20Priors..jpg
http://essenes.net/carmelchurchfront.jpg
http://essenes.net/elijahspring.jpg
http://essenes.net/wadi.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch4.jpg

http://essenes.net/vad_arch16.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch14.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch25.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch26.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch20.jpg

http://essenes.net/vad_arch13.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch22.jpg
http://essenes.net/aaasssaa.jpg
http://essenes.net/vad_arch15.jpg
http://essenes.net/Monastere_Source.jpg
http://essenes.net/2.gif
http://essenes.net/prostrations.html

Actual historical acount by a scholar from the time of the Essenes. Doesn't mean everything is exactly accurate, but these historians lived in the same time period
http://members.aol.com/Wisdomway/deadseascrolls.htm
http://www.religiousstudies.uncc.edu/JDTABOR/DSSEssay.htm

Yoga was practiced in the east and the west
http://www.yoga-videos.net/
http://www.atlantis.to/Products/about-tibetan-yoga.htm
http://www.yoga-tibet.com/index.html
http://www.yoga-videos.net/images/benyogasmallanimopt.gif
http://www.yoga-tibet.com/yogaanimopt.gif


And Chinese 18 Lohan hands are similar to Yoga
http://wongkk.com/chikung/lohan.html
http://monkeytree.org/silkroad/mindbody/bodhidharma.html
Bodhidharma traveled to China via the high southern routes across the Himalayas, a trecherous journey filled with storms, landslides and bandits.(Some sources claim Bodhidharma traveled by ship to South China)

Upon reaching China in 527 CE, Bodhidharma traveled to the capital where he was introduced as a learned master of Buddhism. Since he had traveled at great peril from India, the home land of Buddhism and the site of the oldest Buddhist teachings, Bodhidharma was greeted as a great sage. The emperor himself was Buddhist, so the arrival of a sage was considered a blessing on the empire.

Saluting the Sun, Chinese style
http://wongkk.com/images/chikung/lohan01.jpg


Some cool video clips here of 1700 year old qigong school from China and Tibet. It contains 72 sets in total.
http://www.qiqigong.com/
http://www.possiblesociety.org/dayanqi.htm
http://www.qimagazine.com/qigong.htm
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/yanmejunsitting.jpg

Check out how similar the Dayan qigong posture at the very bottom of this page, is to Yoga
http://dayan.oompa.net/qigong-syllabus.html
http://dayan.oompa.net/images/qigongs-middle-2.jpg
http://dayan.oompa.net/qigong-syllabus.html
http://dayan.oompa.net/qigong.html


Qigong
http://www.qinway.org/founder.htm
http://www.qinway.org/au1.html
http://www.qinway.org/kwanyin2.jpg
http://www.falundafa.org/eng/media.htm
http://www.randi.org/images/101703-Li.jpg
http://www.falundafa.org/images/falun_m.gif

Hopi prophecy
http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html
http://www.clearwisdom.net/eng/2000/nov/20/scf112000_1.html

http://www.clearwisdom.net/eng/2000/nov/20/Image77.gif
http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2000/11/21/6096.html
http://www.rexresearch.com/usa/usaproph.htm#us7
http://www.think-aboutit.com/Misc/Grandcanyon.html

Interesting article http://www.think-aboutit.com/Misc/Grandcanyon.html

Different cultural practices more related than thought? Throughout history?
http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/illnesswel.../YogaPrayer.htm (http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/illnesswellness/a/YogaPrayer.htm)

more "Modern" history
http://www.fsmitha.com/timeline2.html

Christian Prayer beads
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1005893/2/istockphoto_1005893_rosary_beads.jpg

Muslim Prayer beads
http://www.islamicjewellery.co.uk/images/tsjapblk_l.gif

Buddhist prayer beads
http://www.kyoto-teramachi.or.jp/shobido/gif2/ude/udebyakudan.jpg

Painting qigong?
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&cl...65132853C559183 (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=588&art_id=vn20050112065132853C559183)
http://www.buddhanet.net/budart.htm
http://www.buddhanet.net/images/bdiagram.jpg
http://www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us...i/StudyMan.html (http://www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us/Renaissance/University/LeonardodaVinci/StudyMan.html)
http://www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us/Renaissance/University/LeonardodaVinci/LeonardoGifs/StudyOfManLarge.jpg

http://www.artunframed.com/images/artmis69/vincie.jpg
http://www.artunframed.com/images/artmis69/vincie.jpg



Meditation
http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/...471/ai-lien.htm (http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Reln471/ai-lien.htm)
http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Reln471/Images471/ai-lien-lg.JPG

http://www.paralumun.com/mirror.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s43993.htm
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa062998.htm

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/misc/nostradamus/magic-scrying.jpg
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/misc/nostradamus/nostradamus-icon.jpg
http://wwastrologer.com/images/nostradamus.jpg



George Washington practiced meditation and Yoga intensely.
http://www.urantiagate.com/visions/GW.html
NOTE: The following was originally published by Wesley Bradshaw in the National Review, Vol. 4, No. 12, December 1880 (and handed down to me by my grandmother)

The last time I ever saw Anthony Sherman was on July 4, 1859, in Independence Square. He was then 99 years old, and becoming very feeble. But though so old, his dimming eyes rekindled as he gazed upon Independence Hall, which he came to visit once more.

“Let us go into the hall,” he said. “I want to tell you an incident of Washington’s life - one which no one alive knows of except myself; and, if you live, you will before long, see it verified.

“From the opening of the Revolution we experienced all phases of fortune, now good and now ill; one time victorious and another conquered. The darkest period we had, I think, was when Washington, after several reverses, retreated to Valley Forge, where he resolved to spend the winter of 1777. Ah! I have often seen our dear commander’s care-worn cheeks, as he would be conversing with a confidential officer about the condition of his poor soldiers. You have doubtless heard the story of Washington’s going to the thicket to pray. Well, it was not only true, but he used often to pray in secret for aid and comfort from God, the interposition of whose Divine Providence brought us safely through the darkest days of tribulation.

“One day, I remember well, the chilly winds whistled through the leafless trees, though the sky was cloudless and the sun shone brightly, he remained in his quarters nearly all the afternoon alone. When he came out, I noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual, and there seemed to be something on his mind of more than ordinary importance. Returning just after dusk, he dispatched an orderly to the quarters of the officer I mention who was presently in attendance. After a preliminary conversation of about half an hour, Washington, gazing upon his companion with that strange look of dignity which he alone could command said to the latter:

“‘I do not know whether it is owing to anxiety of my mind, or what, but this afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third, and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.

“‘Presently I heard a voice saying, “Son of the Republic, look and learn,” while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly. I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a strange scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world---Europe, Asia, Africa, and America. I saw rolling and tossing, between Europe and America, the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.

“‘“Son of the Republic,” said the same mysterious voice as before, “look and learn.” At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing, or rather floating, in the hollow air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

“‘A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows it sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, “Son of the Republic, look and learn.” I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, was dotted with them. Again I head the mysterious voice say, “Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.”

“‘At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking, I saw a bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word “Union,” bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, “Remember ye are brethren.” Instantly, the inhabitants casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

“‘And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, “Son of the Republic, look and learn.” At this, the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia, and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass, there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country, and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up.

“‘As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat., I again heard the mysterious voice saying, “Son of the Republic, look and learn.” When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.

“‘Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word “Union,” and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle. Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, “Son of the Republic, look and learn.”

“‘As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious.

“‘Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities, springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, plating the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice: “While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.” And taking from his brow the crown on which was blazoned the word “Union,” he placed it upon the Standard, while the people, kneeling down, said “Amen.”

“‘The scene instantly began to fade and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who in the same voice I had heard before, said, “Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted. Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third.”

“(The comment on his word ‘third’ is: The help against the THIRD peril comes in the shape of Divine assistance; passing which, the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and Union.)”

“‘With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown me the birth, progress, and destiny of the UNITED STATES.”

“Such, my friends,” concluded the venerable narrator, “were the words I heard from Washington’s own lips, and America will do well to profit by them.”
http://www.historyplace.com/specials/portraits/presidents/port-washington.jpg


As did his successer Abraham Lincoln
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa022100a.htm
Lincoln's Premonition
That Lincoln had a precognitive dream about his own untimely death is well documented. He related the dream to his close friend, Ward Hill Lamon:

About ten days ago, I retired very late. I soon began to dream. There seemed to be a death-like stillness about me. Then I heard subdued sobs, as if a number of people were weeping. I thought I left my bed and wandered downstairs. There the silence was broken by the same pitiful sobbing, but the mourners were invisible. I went from room to room. No living person was in sight, but the same mournful sounds met me as I passed alone. I was puzzled and alarmed. Determined to find the cause of a state of things so mysterious and shocking, I kept on until I arrived at the East Room. Before me was a catafalque on which rested a corpse wrapped in funeral vestments. Around it were stationed soldiers who were acting as guards; and there was a throng or people, some gazing mournfully upon the corpse, whose face was covered, others weeping pitifully. "Who is dead in the White House?" I demanded of one of the soldiers. "The president," was his answer. "He was killed by an assassin."

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/meditat.htm
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=1090
Meditation on the Divine Will
Washington, D.C.
September, 1862

This fragment was found and preserved by John Hay, one of President Lincoln's secretaries, who said it was "not written to be seen of men." Some of the thoughts expressed here, written after discouraging days of personal sorrow and military defeats, also appear in Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address of 1865.

Hay said that in this writing "Mr. Lincoln admits us into the most secret recesses of his soul .... Perplexed and afflicted beyond the power of human help, by the disasters of war, the wrangling of parties, and the inexorable and constraining logic of his own mind, he shut out the world one day, and tried to put into form his double sense of responsibility to human duty and Divine Power; and this was the result. It shows -- as has been said in another place -- the awful sincerity of a perfectly honest soul, trying to bring itself into closer communion with its Maker."

The will of God prevails. In great contests each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be, wrong. God cannot be for and against the same thing at the same time. In the present civil war it is quite possible that God's purpose is something different from the purpose of either party -- and yet the human instrumentalities, working just as they do, are of the best adaptation to effect His purpose. I am almost ready to say that this is probably true -- that God wills this contest, and wills that it shall not end yet. By his mere great power, on the minds of the now contestants, He could have either saved or destroyed the Union without a human contest. Yet the contest began. And, having begun He could give the final victory to either side any day. Yet the contest proceeds.
http://www.historyplace.com/specials/portraits/presidents/port-linc.jpg

ceptimus
11-28-2006, 09:20 AM
First. :bliss:

beyelzu
11-28-2006, 10:32 PM
:tldr:

but on the other hand i did look at the pretty pictures, its one of the things i love about your posts kilik, the strange collection of facts, figures and pictures, its fun.

MonCapitan2002
11-29-2006, 04:19 AM
:tldr:

I can't imagine anyone reading through all that blather.

Kilik
11-29-2006, 10:37 AM
someone might.....aren't you too curious about it to not read it?

beyelzu
11-29-2006, 01:59 PM
i dont know if im curious enough to read that much, and i dont have time right now. the ideas are of course interesting, but i really think you should distill down some of this into more manageable chunks then i think you might get more action in your threads.

Kilik
11-29-2006, 10:13 PM
I've made some shorter ones which were based off this on. But this is the original, the comprehensive thread that has it all.

Without clicking links, I think it takes roughly 15-20 minutes to read. Not all that long really, less time than most tv programs

Sock Puppet
11-30-2006, 01:09 AM
Ultimate thread about history
Does this mean it's your last one? :please:

D. Scarlatti
11-30-2006, 01:18 AM
Fun if you're not on dial-up, I guess. Otherwise he's just a hotlinking asshole.

D. Scarlatti
11-30-2006, 01:29 AM
A major scale contains seven notes, by the way.

yguy
11-30-2006, 01:42 AM
someone might.....aren't you too curious about it to not read it?

Personally, I'd rather read about the history of laundromats.

D. Scarlatti
11-30-2006, 01:46 AM
Laundromats mess up that whole cosmic balance thing, though, because you put eight socks in and only seven come out.

xorbie
12-01-2006, 10:25 PM
Well I didn't read any of it, but sign me up!

Kilik
12-06-2006, 04:10 AM
For the "Scale" or particular universe to be complete, it has to be connected to the next universe or octave, since all the universe is one

Kilik
12-06-2006, 04:22 AM
Info about the past, about what Qigong is, and what it's implications are to history and the human body. From the teaching of Falun Dafa, a great cultivation path which originates in an ancient prehistoric time, by Mr. Li Hongzhi
http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl_new.html

Qigong is Part of Prehistoric Culture

What is qigong? A lot of qigong masters are trying to address this question, but what I have to say is completely different. A lot of qigong masters talk about it at one level, while I’m talking at a higher level about how to understand qigong, and it’s nothing like how they understand it. Some qigong masters say that qigong has a 2,000-year history in our country. And others say qigong has a 3,000-year history. Some say it has a 5,000-year history, which would be about the same as the history of our Chinese civilization. And there are people who say that if you go by historic artifacts it has a 7,000-year history, which goes way beyond the history of our Chinese civilization. But all the same, the date doesn’t go much beyond the history of this civilization. Now, according to Darwin’s theory of evolution, man first evolved from aquatic plants into aquatic animals, then he climbed onto land, and later up into trees, then he came back down and turned into an ape, and then finally he evolved into modern man, who has culture and thought, which puts human civilization at only about 10,000 years old, if you figure that way. Go back a little further and there wouldn’t have even been quipu record-keeping, and they would have worn leaves and eaten raw meat. Go even further back, and maybe they wouldn’t even know how to make fire, and they would have been those totally savage, primitive people.

But something just doesn’t add up. There are a lot of places around the world where traces of ancient cultures have been left, and they’re really a lot older than our civilization. These ancient remains are excellent in terms of their craftsmanship, and if you look at the artistry they’re superb. It’s almost like modern folks are imitating the arts of ancient people, and they have great aesthetic value. But they’re from more than 100,000 years ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago, millions of years ago, or even more than 100 million years ago. Then think about it, isn’t this making a joke of "history" as we know it? But this really isn’t just another amusing idea, since mankind is perfecting itself and rediscovering itself on an ongoing basis, and that’s just how a society develops, so chances are what it knows at the beginning isn’t totally correct.

A good number of you have probably heard of the term prehistoric culture, which is also called prehistoric civilization. Let’s talk about prehistoric civilization. On the earth there is Asia, Europe, South America, North America, Oceania, Africa, and Antarctica, which geologists group together as continental plates. It’s been tens of millions of years since the continental plates formed, or you could say, a number of land masses rose from the ocean floor, and a lot of land masses sank to the bottom of the sea, and it’s been tens of millions of years since they stabilized as they are now. But at the bottom of a lot of oceans people have found tall and large ancient structures, the structures have elegant designs, and they aren’t cultural remains from today’s human race. So they must have been built before they sank to the sea bottom. Then who was it tens of millions of years ago that started those civilizations? Back then, our human race wouldn’t have even been monkeys, right—how could we have created such intelligent things? Today archaeologists have discovered that there was an organism called a trilobite, and that creature was active from 600 million years ago up until 260 million years ago. It hasn’t been around for 260 million years. Yet there’s an American scientist who discovered a trilobite fossil, and what was on it but a human footprint, the footprint of somebody wearing shoes, and the print was unmistakable. Isn’t that like playing a joke on historians? If you go by Darwin’s theory of evolution, tell me, could there be human beings 260 million years ago?

In the museum of the National University of Peru there’s a rock that has a human figure etched into it. A study determined that the figure was etched in the rock 30,000 years ago. But this figure is wearing clothes, he has a hat on, and he’s wearing shoes, in his hand he’s got a telescope and he’s observing the stars. Now how could people 30,000 years ago know how to weave cloth and put on clothes? What’s even more incredible is that he’s holding a telescope and observing the stars, he knew something about astronomy. We’ve always thought that the European, Galileo, invented the telescope, and that it was just a little over 300 years ago. So who would have invented the telescope 30,000 years ago? And there are lots and lots of other unsolved mysteries. For example, many caves in France, South Africa, and the Alps have murals on the slate there, and the murals were etched in a fully lifelike and vivid way. The figures there were etched with great quality, and they’re coated with a type of mineral pigment. But those figures are dressed like modern people, and their clothes look a little like Western-style clothes—they’re wearing breeches. Some of them are holding things like tobacco pipes, and some are holding canes and wearing hats. Do you mean to tell me those monkeys hundreds of thousands of years ago could have had this level of artistry?

Let’s go back a little further. In Africa there’s the Gabon Republic, which has uranium ore. It’s a country that’s pretty underdeveloped and they don’t have the capacity to extract the uranium themselves, so they export the ore to developed countries. In 1972 a plant in France imported that uranium ore, and after chemical analysis they found that the uranium ore had already been tapped and used. They thought it was strange, and so they sent over some scientists and technical personnel to make an on-site investigation. Scientists from a lot of countries went there to investigate. They eventually verified that the uranium ore mine was a large-scale nuclear reactor, and the layout was really technically sound. There’s no way even us modern folks could create something like that. So when was it built? Two billion years ago, and it operated for 500,000 years. These numbers are just astronomical. There’s no way to explain it with Darwin’s theory of evolution. And there are tons of things like this. The scientific and technological community has discovered enough new things to change our current textbooks. Once mankind gets its thinking stuck in an old, deep rut, it’s hard for people to accept new ideas. And even when the truth is revealed people don’t dare to accept it—they just reject it impulsively. Because of the influence of old ways of thinking nobody is organizing these things today in a systematic way, and so people’s thinking never keeps up with new developments. You bring up these things, and, even though they’ve been discovered, and just not yet publicized much, you have people who still blurt out "blind belief" and just can’t accept it.

There are a lot of brave scientists in other countries who have publicly acknowledged that these things come from prehistoric cultures, and that they’re from a civilization that came before this human civilization of ours, meaning, before this civilization of ours there were other periods of civilization, and not just one. You can tell by looking at archeological objects that they weren’t all from one period of civilization. So they think that after the many times civilization suffered a devastating blow, only a small number of people survived, they lived pr