Solomon Tulbure Dead

[livius drusus]

ELGS posted the news (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=107050) on IIDB. Known as the Illuminati, Solomon, OldWorldOrder among many others, he was repeatedly banned from IIDB years ago, and was the source of a long-running IIDB joke which recently came up again here (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=22687&postcount=228).

Last year he registered again as AtheistWorld.com at IIDB and, I believe, at JREF. He was promptly banned from both, although I don't recall what exactly it was he did at the latter. (The thread in which I posted was lost in one of the database failures.)

Israel Tulbure also said he knew what some people were unhappy with his brother and that there are uncomplimentary things said about him on the Internet.

He also said that about a month ago someone started calling the family looking for Tulbure, claiming they were with some type of agency interested in Internet fraud.

Israel Tulbure said his brother asked him to drop him off at a convenience store on Merchant Drive last Friday and said he would be gone about five days. That was the last time he saw him.

He said his brother "had a very good heart" and that he would do things like give money to a relative to visit Romania and gave some of his furniture to a single mother who needed it.

"What he give to somebody, he would never ask for anything back," Israel Tulbure said.

"He had a very good heart but sometimes he was difficult to deal with," he said.

I find it very disturbing to read about his death and possible suicide, his family, what he was like irl. He was a shady guy and it's all fucked up. :(

[Petra]

Jesus.

That's terrible. And that whole "did he jump or was he pushed" thing is just creepy.

I remember him phishing for money. I even interacted with him briefly at some conspiracy board a while back, and I gave him such a hard time about it. My meaner side played with him like a cat plays with a mouse; mercilessly.

He did make a lot of enemies, but I would never have wished any real harm upon him - either by his own hand or the hand of another.

Shit. :(

[freemonkey]

I remember him, although I never had much interaction with him.

I wanted to read the entire newspaper article, but Bugmenot isn't working for me.

[HelenM]

I'm sorry to hear this :(

Helen

[Adora]

I am the author of a book coming our called "Islam Exposed"
Ò_o The fuck? I smell something fishy there...

Honestly, he sounds like a fraud. Something was going to happen to him, if he was asking for money over the internet. Maybe we're better off now that he's removed himself from the genepool?

[livius drusus]

He was a fraud, but I think he may have believed his own press.

[Petra]

Maybe we're better off now that he's removed himself from the genepool?

Woah. That's cold. Too cold for me.


From Mahmud Kianush's Outsider (http://www.artarena.force9.co.uk/outsider.htm):

The man you hate

Because he is very stupid,

Is loved by his neighbour

Because he is very kind.


He may have been delusional, mentally ill, a scammer and a fraud (and I agree with Liv that be believed his own press), but if you read the newspaper article, it shows that he also had a family that loved him and was generally pretty kind to those he knew.

Where's your heart, Adora?

[Goliath]

:deepsigh: :(

I had no love for the guy, but I never wished him any actual harm.

As a totally selfish off-topic point, though..this does serve as a (sadly, probably needed) reminder that people that I despise may not be entirely deserving of my despising.

[livius drusus]

I was thinking something along those lines myself, Goliath. Here's (http://nodeity.com/tulbure.html) a bunch of info about the scams and crackpottery Solomon was so widely known for. I wonder if his family knew the kind of crazy shit he did online. From the article it really doesn't seem like they realized the extent of his issues. :(

[freemonkey]

I was thinking something along those lines myself, Goliath. Here's (http://nodeity.com/tulbure.html) a bunch of info about the scams and crackpottery Solomon was so widely known for. I wonder if his family knew the kind of crazy shit he did online. From the article it really doesn't seem like they realized the extent of his issues. :(

Heh, I found that site last night. Near the end of the first letter on this page (http://nodeity.com/tulbure2.html#letter_2004Feb08) there is an indication that maybe his family did know a thing or two about his issues.

[Adora]

Where's your heart, Adora?
Busy wasting time with things that matter. He had a family. So what? So does Shrub, and they probably love him too, but if he died tomorrow from another pretzel attack, I'd be throwing a party. A BIG one.

[Petra]

I wonder how long it will be before Godwin's Law is expanded to include GWB?

The difference between GWB and Solomon is that Solomon has not been responsible for the massacre of anyone, was never considered to be among the most powerful men in the world, and didn't commit fraud at quite the same level.

Solomon was mentally ill, and the combination of his nutty and arrogant intellect and self-delusions meant that he ripped some fools off and caused a few shitstorms here and there.

I've been reading a bit about him over the last 24 hours or so, and he was so fucking shady. And so damned paranoid. I just can't help but pity him.

Just as I can't help but be creeped out by the callousness of your comment regarding the gene pool.

[Dingfod]

He promised to send me $25 million dollars of his own money if I would just give him my checking account number and bank routing number so he could wire it to me.

Or was that the nephew of the dear friend of the former oil minister of Nigeria? I keep getting them mixed up.

[pzmyers]

I can be awfully callous, but I draw the line at dancing on graves. And in this case, you can bet that he spent his last moments alone and afraid and despairing and miserable. He may have been an obnoxious con artist, spammer, and all-around scumbag, but he paid the price in full and with interest at the end.

Now if he'd died suddenly with a smile on his face, wired on coke while frolicking on a bed of money with Heidi Klum, then maybe you could convince me to join in a mass grave-pissing.

[Dingfod]

Pissing on graves? I was making fun of the shit he did when he was alive, some of his schemes I read about resembled the fraudulent emails I get from the West African scammers.

You're callous? I've become so fucking jaded by all the death and destruction being done in my country's name that I cannot bring myself to feel anything at all for this guy I didn't even know except for his fucked up paranoid postings on IIDB. What I feel is neither negative nor positive, it's just nothing. I feel nothing more for him than the three crewmembers of the charter jet that was supposed to pick up Bush I. I'm just numb. I feel nothing more for this Solomon guy than I do for the squirrel that was squashed on the road in front of my property. Nothing.

To me, what I just posted above is showing more disrespect than joking around about his conniving schemes in my previous post. For that matter, so is viewing him with pity. He paid no price at all. Anyone can kill themselves, it's really easy. It takes a stronger person than he was to pull through the dark times and live on to make other people's lives miserable instead.

[lopini]

It is hard to believe it will be 3 years in November that Solomon Tulbure has been gone. The worst part about it is that no one is talking about how he died! He did not kill himself, he was murdered...we all know someone who did not like he opinions killed him, and no one is talking about it!

Rest in Peace Max!

[lopini]

The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist!

[Petra]

What?

If you know something, take it to the police!

[livius drusus]

Well, he was an Illuminati so I suppose it's eminently possible that he conspired to silence himself and cover it up, making it both a suicide and a murder.

Welcome to FF, lopini. :welcome1:

[lopini]

You guys do not think he was murdered???:shrug: :shrug:

[livius drusus]

I really don't know, lopini. I have no facts on the matter. Do you?

[lopini]

I find it very suspicious that he was getting threats weeks before he died. Those of us that knew Max know he was way to narcissistic to kill himself. Also, suspicous posts (I cannot find them now) appeared on the net after he supposely died. The devil's trick comment was one of them posted by someone called MIB05 (Max is Back???). This is all very werid!

[Petra]

I know this is certainly the weirdest entry into a forum I've ever known!


Welcome, though. :)


And as I said before - if you know something, talk to police.

[livius drusus]

I find it very suspicious that he was getting threats weeks before he died.
How do you know he was getting threats? Even if he was being threatened, that's not terribly surprising given his unfortunate involvement in shady dealings. People get mad when they get scammed, and even when he was just posting on random forums, he had a knack for saying offensive stuff and pissing people off. I wouldn't be shocked to hear he'd been threatened with a whupping every day of his life since he first went online.

Those of us that knew Max know he was way to narcissistic to kill himself.
Narcissism and depression are not mutually exclusive.

Also, suspicous posts (I cannot find them now) appeared on the net after he supposely died. The devil's trick comment was one of them posted by someone called MIB05 (Max is Back???). This is all very werid!
MIB is an acronym for the movie Men In Black. I'm afraid I don't see anything particularly weird at all in someone posting a very common phrase from a popular movie like The Usual Suspects. Perhaps that person thought Tulbure faked his death. Perhaps it's a comment on something else altogether. You really don't know.

[ChuckF]

The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist!
Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

[livius drusus]

:lol:

[LadyShea]

Chuck, did you type that from memory?

[ChuckF]

:nope:

Had to IMDB it.

[Shake]

You guys do not think he was murdered???:shrug: :shrug:
Nope. No reason to think so.

My condolences to his family and friends.

[lopini]

It is 2009 and I believe Max is still alive!

[Shake]

Holy thread necromancy, Batman!

And here I was thinking I'd killed yet another thread here at FF.

[Naru]

He's probably in hiding with Tupac and Elvis.

[livius drusus]

I miss Tupac. :sadcheer:

[Qingdai]

I certainly don't miss Elvis, although I appreciate the many parodies he's generated.

[erimir]

It is 2009 and I believe Max is still alive!Weren't you saying he was murdered before?