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Dingfod
12-17-2004, 06:49 AM
In this thread, I said: (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=28083#post28083)

I have no idea why the androgenous look is fashionable. Maybe it appeals to women, who in most of society still do not have equal power. If men can be emasculated through imagery, it is appealing to them. There are quite a few television commercials that make the men look stupid, always having to be rescued by the well dressed, more intelligent competent women in their lives. Is that the same sort of imagery that appeals to women?

The commercials are abundant, but offhand...

#1 - In this Verizon ad (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/10/Worldandnation/Dumb_dad_in_ad_riles_.shtml), mom finishes up helping daughter with homework, sending the unhelpful dad out to wash the dog, a task suitable for dear dumb dad.

#2 - In an upscale bar in some city a single, sexy, self-assured female, alone, sitting down at a table, pouring a bottle of beer into a glass. She's not looking at the glass, though. She's looking at some guy, but still manages to pour the perfect glass of beer. The guy she's looking at is also pouring a beer, but because he's staring at her like a complete goober, he forgets completely about his beer and proceeds to spill it all over himself.

#3 - Old guy doesn't have enough change to purchase a coke from the vending machine. He goes to the fountain and starts fishing out some change, until a nun stares at him. He gives the nun an sheepish grin. Back at the vending machine, a young woman pulls out her cell phone points it at the machine, dials the magic number, and out pops a can of coke.

From Women's Quarterly: (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IUK/is_2001_Spring/ai_75453034)

Moaning from beneath his fuzzy flannel sheets, the big lug whines that every breath hurts and blubbers that his nose is raw from the constant rubbing. In comes Super Mom, armed with the latest in tissue technology: Kleenex Cold-Care. He's relieved. Then the voiceover: "The bigger the man, the bigger the baby."

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Take for example, the Campbell's soup commercial that paints the picture of a cozy family supper. "M'm! m'm! good!" cry the kids, who thank mom profusely for making such a mouth-watering meal. The soothing background voice spells it out: It's a delicious and oh-so-easy meal that comes from a can. Step one: Brown some chicken. Step two: Empty a can of Campbell's cream of mushroom soup into a pot and voila, your kids will love it. Only, guess what? Mom didn't make this meal; it seems this task was easy enough even for dumb, old dad to handle.

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VISA, perhaps the worst offender, showed a seriously anti-male ad during this year's Super Bowl. Again, this one features a corpulent guy's guy lounging on his sofa in his dirty undershirt, which barely covers his beer gut. The camera pans down, exposing his socked feet in a perpetual twitch. He's picking popcorn out of his teeth, and is engrossed in a black-and-white television cartoon. All the while, his dutiful, beautiful wife is giving her new vacuum a test-run. As if this poor slob couldn't be any worse, he barks, "You missed a spot!" Unfazed, his wife turns the nozzle on him and sucks him up. "Huh, it really does work," she says looking down into the tube that swallowed her husband whole.

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You might think a rugged product like Levi's would hesitate to make fun of guys. But consider this ad: It begins with sirens blaring as the ambulance roars to the scene. A paramedic rushes to the aid of a sickly man on the verge of death, curled up in the fetal position on his bed. Carrying a cooler containing what seems to be some vital organ, the paramedic summons the man's attention and reveals the lifesaver. It's a pair of Levi's jeans. It seems that this poor schlepp can't even get out of bed, never mind dressed. But once he musters the strength to pull on his hand-delivered Levi's, he is infused with life.

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Along the same lines, there is an ad that features an incompetent buffoon who can't get his car stereo to work. Meanwhile, his frustrated and infinitely smarter wife looks on with pity. Luckily, she is clever enough to use the Yellow Pages to call a real professional.I could pay attention to television a day or two and probably come up with a dozen more. Is my perception correct that there is a trend in the direction of making men look dumb? Or is it payback time for eons of male dominance?

Godless Dave
12-17-2004, 07:32 AM
I could pay attention to television a day or two and probably come up with a dozen more. Is my perception correct that there is a trend in the direction of making men look dumb? Or is it payback time for eons of male dominance?

You are correct on both counts, but I think such payback is ultimately counterproductive when it's the dominant portrayal out there.

On the other hand, even though women are often portrayed as competent and hardworking in commercials, they are also still often doing most of the work. I'm thinking of all the commercials where the whole family, except Mom sits down to eat while Mom remains standing, often serving everybody. One example is for the KFC combo bucket, which is a bucket divided into three sections with a different KFC product in each - one each for Dad and the two kids. Mom, I guess, goes off later and eats a carton of yogurt in the kitchen by herself.

Then there are all the OTC medicine commercials, where Mom knows exactly what medicine to give her sick kids. Dad is just another kid who needs to be taken care of.

It's demeaning to men and women at the same time.

Adora
12-17-2004, 10:53 AM
Then there are all the OTC medicine commercials, where Mom knows exactly what medicine to give her sick kids. Dad is just another kid who needs to be taken care of.
I know it's demeaning, but this has been my experience of sick men over my (yes, I know, short) life. There's nothing more pathetic, or annoying, than a sick man.

But generally, I just think it's another example of ads playing into stereotypes. Why? Well, the only reasons I can think for it is that rising rates of economic independence for women in countries these ads are screened in (you'd hardly see these ads in India...) means they have larger amounts of spending money to be targeted by these companies.

On the other hand, you have ads done by Visa featuring a 14 yr old boy perving on bikini-clad females trying to encourage said age males to pester parents to get a new Visa card and win an all-year summer holiday. Or, the numerous and extremely old-fashioned sexism that's rampant in deoderant commercials. Windsor Smith, somehow, still has its advertising liscences. Why? Because it sells to the targeted male consumer market.

*shrugs* I don't like any of it really. That's why I rarely watch commercial TV. Give me my Aunty & SBS anyday.

Corona688
12-17-2004, 03:28 PM
When you see a commercial that disses your gender like that, you can be pretty sure you're not the target audience. You're correct that there seems to be a lot of them and that's because, well, there is, for a lot more different kinds of products than there used to be.

In a way, I suppose it's progress; female-targeted advertising for diverse products suggests women working and living in diverse ways. Shame about the advertising, though... not just these ads but ads in general, they're getting nearly intolerable. S'why I haven't been able to stick to watching a show regularly any more, I just can't stand the commercial breaks.

Corona688
12-17-2004, 03:33 PM
Then there are all the OTC medicine commercials, where Mom knows exactly what medicine to give her sick kids. Dad is just another kid who needs to be taken care of.
I know it's demeaning, but this has been my experience of sick men over my (yes, I know, short) life. There's nothing more pathetic, or annoying, than a sick man. You're absolutely correct about the behavior of sick men, with one qualification -- I haven't found sick women to behave much better. :P None of us are close to our best when we're sick, that's why they call it illness instead of, um, spriteliness or something.

livius drusus
12-17-2004, 03:47 PM
I think it's supposed to be a nudge-nudge wink-wink thing, like some advertiser's retarded attempt to play "just one of the girls". Oh sure, your husband is a big dumb animal, but doesn't he make you wanna scratch him behind the ears and pick up his shit with a loving albeit wry smile? I happen to have just the product for the job.

Also what Corona and Adora said about target audiences.

Hey Warren, did you mean to post this here instead of in A&L?

Ymir's blood
12-17-2004, 04:30 PM
To expand on Adora's examples, consider the role of women in beer commercials, which are targeted mainly at men. Beer commercials have featured beautiful women throwing themselves at unresponsive plain men, the 'cat fight' commercial from a few years ago that ended up being edited, and Swedish 'bikini teams.'

Both sexes are stereotyped and for no agenda other than marketing. Commercials are not intended to provoke thought, but to sell products by playing to people's preconceptions. Women are perceived as being more likely to seek medical attention for an illness or injury and so they are targeted more in medication ads. In beer commercials, men may get portrayed as goofy because males are supposed to react well to physical humor. In the same ads, attractive women are shown as eye candy and or prizes to be won.

godfry n. glad
12-17-2004, 05:20 PM
Target market, target market, target market.

Just watch the ads that go with the programs and it'll indicate which target market advertisers think is watching.

Dammit, Warren, why are you watching so many soap operas?

godfry

Clutch Munny
12-17-2004, 07:29 PM
It's hard to ask my daughters to get into watching football or hockey with Dad, when every commercial features semi-clad girls not much older than they... who of course are always ready to raise their arms above their heads, pulling those half-shirts up even further, and dance with their girlfriends for the onlookers' private stroke fantasy.

Yeah, this is what Daddy watches, all right...

Yuk.

Oh, I shouldn't say "every commercial". Nearly half, after all, are for dick re-bar of one sort or another. Are you finding it difficult to get hard and jerk off to beer commercials? Try Cialis....

"Dad, what are these commercials about?"
"Er... let's watch Kim Possible instead, okay, honey?"

godfry n. glad
12-17-2004, 07:52 PM
It's hard to ask my daughters to get into watching football or hockey with Dad, when every commercial features semi-clad girls not much older than they... who of course are always ready to raise their arms above their heads, pulling those half-shirts up even further, and dance with their girlfriends for the onlookers' private stroke fantasy.

Oh, I shouldn't say "every commercial". Nearly half, after all, are for dick re-bar of one sort or another. Are you finding it difficult to get hard and jerk off to beer commercials? Try Cialis....



Hey! You forgot all the, "So the Cialis don't work? Well, worry not, 'cause you can just run on down to the Ford/Chevy/Dodge dealer and gecherself a huge honkin' pickup truck as a replacement for the little buddy."

godfry

Shake
12-17-2004, 08:57 PM
I'm also reminded of a JC Penney ad for one of their "One Day" sales, which shows the kids pillaging the house where a forlorn father sits and wonders aloud, "Where is your mother?"

She's at the store shopping, of course. With a happy smile on her face.

Come to think of it, this ad is offensive to both men and women!

Nex
12-17-2004, 09:30 PM
I'm also reminded of a JC Penney ad for one of their "One Day" sales, which shows the kids pillaging the house where a forlorn father sits and wonders aloud, "Where is your mother?"

She's at the store shopping, of course. With a happy smile on her face.

Come to think of it, this ad is offensive to both men and women!
*shudder*

I hate that ad.

This thread reminds me of an ad I saw a few months ago for some toilet cleaner that has a weird looking neck on the bottle to squirt under the rim, I guess.

The tagline? "It's so easy, even DAD can do it!"

WTF? Like Dad couldn't figure out the elusive secrets of the toilet brush before this magical product came into being?

LadyShea
12-17-2004, 09:52 PM
It's hard to ask my daughters to get into watching football or hockey with Dad, when every commercial features semi-clad girls not much older than they... who of course are always ready to raise their arms above their heads, pulling those half-shirts up even further, and dance with their girlfriends for the onlookers' private stroke fantasy.

Oh, I shouldn't say "every commercial". Nearly half, after all, are for dick re-bar of one sort or another. Are you finding it difficult to get hard and jerk off to beer commercials? Try Cialis....



Hey! You forgot all the, "So the Cialis don't work? Well, worry not, 'cause you can just run on down to the Ford/Chevy/Dodge dealer and gecherself a huge honkin' pickup truck as a replacement for the little buddy."

godfry

We have a local commercial where a smiling man says "I just got my first hummer and it was AWESOME", then you see a close up of a woman's mouth with red lipstick saying "Would YOU like a hummer?"

Now, they are of course talking about the 4 wheeled Humvee type vehicles (big status symbol here), but the sexual overtones are so blatant and fucking cheesy and many of us see the, um, compensation factors involved in purchasing one for tooling around the city.

Goliath
12-18-2004, 01:40 AM
WTF? Like Dad couldn't figure out the elusive secrets of the toilet brush before this magical product came into being?

:eek:

Toilet brush?! What!? You mean I shouldn't have been using my toothbrush for that?

lisarea
12-18-2004, 02:46 AM
I'm also reminded of a JC Penney ad for one of their "One Day" sales, which shows the kids pillaging the house where a forlorn father sits and wonders aloud, "Where is your mother?"

She's at the store shopping, of course. With a happy smile on her face.

Come to think of it, this ad is offensive to both men and women!

Shake, my man!

Those commercials are my own pet hates. Stupid, incompetent men, incorrigible children, and mindlessly materialistic women getting themselves all lathered up over shopping for towels. Those stereotypes are not uncommon on TV, but it is unique to see them all wrapped up in such a small package, with an annoying little theme song and everything.

To be honest, it's not like I went to JC Penney before those ads, but now I don't go there much more pointedly.