aeroz19
12-30-2004, 05:56 AM
Just have a bone to pick with fundies...I was a fundie until I became a young adult.
Literalism and fundamentalism dictates that:
1. God expects us not to rely on extra-Biblical proof, evidence, or even our own reasoning, but to trust whatever God says:
Proverbs 3:5 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Therefore, if Science says Genesis is not how it really happened, trust Genesis. Discard Science. After all, Science is just one way in which we fallibly grasp the world around us!
Also, if we reason that killing off tribes to steal their land and virgins might be bad, don't trust your reasoning, it's of the Devil. Just believe every literal word of the Bible.
After realizing the sheer stupidity of this argument from Biblical literalists, I deconverted from literalism.
2. God says that women are the weaker sex.
1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
3. God says women's vows are conditional upon the agreement from men:
Numbers 30:3 - If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;
Numbers 30:4 - And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her; then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
Numbers 30:5 - But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
Numbers 30:6 - And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul;
Numbers 30:7 - And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Numbers 30:8 - But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.
Numbers 30:9 - But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
Numbers 30:10 - And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath;
Numbers 30:11 - And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Numbers 30:12 - But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her.
Numbers 30:13 - Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.
Numbers 30:14 - But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them.
4. God says that wives have to be in submission to their hubbies:
Ephesians 5:22 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Must be because they are the weaker sex. And that must mean they aren't competent enough to be equal with hubby.
5. God says that foreign women could spiritually corrup the men of the nation of Israel--but not the foreign virgin women. In fact, foreign virgin women could be taken and then dumped later at the male's discretion.
6. God says that a democracy is blastphemous; theocracies are good.
Hebrews 13:17 - Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
The whole concept of a democracy is that WE RULE.
These are just a few of the reasons.
Literalism and fundamentalism dictates that:
1. God expects us not to rely on extra-Biblical proof, evidence, or even our own reasoning, but to trust whatever God says:
Proverbs 3:5 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Therefore, if Science says Genesis is not how it really happened, trust Genesis. Discard Science. After all, Science is just one way in which we fallibly grasp the world around us!
Also, if we reason that killing off tribes to steal their land and virgins might be bad, don't trust your reasoning, it's of the Devil. Just believe every literal word of the Bible.
After realizing the sheer stupidity of this argument from Biblical literalists, I deconverted from literalism.
2. God says that women are the weaker sex.
1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
3. God says women's vows are conditional upon the agreement from men:
Numbers 30:3 - If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;
Numbers 30:4 - And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her; then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
Numbers 30:5 - But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
Numbers 30:6 - And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul;
Numbers 30:7 - And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Numbers 30:8 - But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.
Numbers 30:9 - But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
Numbers 30:10 - And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath;
Numbers 30:11 - And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Numbers 30:12 - But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her.
Numbers 30:13 - Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.
Numbers 30:14 - But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them.
4. God says that wives have to be in submission to their hubbies:
Ephesians 5:22 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Must be because they are the weaker sex. And that must mean they aren't competent enough to be equal with hubby.
5. God says that foreign women could spiritually corrup the men of the nation of Israel--but not the foreign virgin women. In fact, foreign virgin women could be taken and then dumped later at the male's discretion.
6. God says that a democracy is blastphemous; theocracies are good.
Hebrews 13:17 - Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
The whole concept of a democracy is that WE RULE.
These are just a few of the reasons.