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viscousmemories

01-18-2005, 11:59 PM

The new season begins tonight. :bliss: :mememe: :yes!: :bundance:

I'll just cut and paste what I said in this thread (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1022):

I watched two seasons of American Idol pretty much religiously. Yeah, I know watching it betrays all that noble cynicism I have about the American consumer culture, but oh well. I think it's really inspirational to watch how hard these kids work in the face of brutal criticism (from Simon - the only honest judge, natch) and when they are "on" - especially when they aren't always "on", like some of the kids - it nearly brings tears to my eyes.

The auditions are frequently stunning, though, and not in a good way. The way some kids who simply cannot sing but think they can, and worse the number of them who seem to think they deserve fame and fortune. It's creepy.

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 01:21 AM

Man, this choking segment is just horribly sad. :(

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 01:24 AM

Yeah, there's usually a lot more focus on the funny bad singers... poor guy.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 01:26 AM

Anwar is good. :yup:

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 01:33 AM

I dunno, man. The rampant delusions of talent going on are pretty damn sad too.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 01:39 AM

If this dude is really Toni Braxtons cousin, she's gonna have him killed. :roflmao:

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 01:46 AM

I can't believe what an asshole he was talking shit about Paula Abdul's race and shit. Crazy bastich.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 02:02 AM

We really shouldn't be prodding the terrorists like this.

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 02:42 AM

I bet Simon tells 5.9 % guy to hit the bottle again.

LadyShea

01-19-2005, 02:46 AM

Hey man, it ain't even 7pm here, don't spoil it all for me.

Anyway, I firmly believe many of those people know that the worse they are, the longer they are on TV. Don't feel too bad for 'em. It's sorta a Gong Show thing.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 03:01 AM

Some of them I genuinely feel sorry for, but most of them I just think "hey, if you're narcissistic enough to believe you're the next American Idol, you deserve to be taken down a notch... or seven."

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 12:19 PM

I wonder if the celebrity of the horribly bad singer, William Hung has anything to do with 100,000 people, most with obviously no talent, to show up for the audition? Or do most of the people genuinely believe they have talent?

Perhaps they are like me, I can sing along with music or with other people fairly well*, but a cappella in front of an audience, even only a few people, with or without television cameras, forget about it.

*I have no talent for discerning lyrics from songs I hear, so I make up my own words as I go along.

Beth

01-19-2005, 01:34 PM

I felt bad for the 'voices' girl. I was laughing so hard that I nearly fell off my bed, but I also felt creepy about it because they either made the girl look like she was nuts or that they and the nation and I was making fun of a poor girl who needs help. I'm not sure if I'll watch anymore after this. I still think it was cruel humor which is ok for stuff like SNL, but I have issues when it is for real.

LadyShea

01-19-2005, 03:14 PM

I still think a large number of those people knew they were bad, bad, very bad, but wanted to be on TV. Sorta like Jerry Springer guests. Hell, the first girl they showed didn't know the words to the National Anthem. Not only couldn't she sing but she didn't even practice to make sure she had the words correctly?

Some of them really do believe they can sing (the girl who said God sent her??), and I can only assume they have never tape recorded themselves. Like the one girl who kept saying "All my friends say I have an amazing voice". Note: friends are not always truthful as they don't wish to hurt your feelings.

Beth

01-19-2005, 03:19 PM

Beth

01-19-2005, 03:22 PM

LadyShea

01-19-2005, 03:27 PM

Like the one girl who kept saying "All my friends say I have an amazing voice". Note: friends are not always truthful as they don't wish to hurt your feelings.
Yeah, the blonde at the end? -the voices girl.

Yes, she probably needs help, but the friends and family that allowed her (or even encouraged her) to go down there in the first place bear the responsibility, IMO.

Oh, I believe that some of the horrible singers may actually have good voices. As a former church soloist, I know what nerves can do if you allow them to take over. You must have a clear, open throat and strong diaphram control otherwise even the best voice can sound really horrible. In practices when I was very unsure and learning songs, I could hurt ears, but by the time I got on stage, I was confident enough with it to do it right.

I also sensed that some of them may have been able to sing in the right circumstances. I would assume though that someone with professional aspirations would have practiced day and night, learned excercises to calm them, etc.

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 03:29 PM

Dear Abby,

How do I get my work mate to stop whistling and singing offkey? It's irritating the heck out of me, but I don't want to hurt his feelings.*

Wincing in Oklahoma

~~~~~~~

*This situation is completely true.

~~~~~~~

Ideal reply:

Dear Wincing,

Tell the bastage to STFU.

Abby

~~~~~~~~~~

Another possibility:

Dear Mike [work mate],

You should audition for American Idol. Really. Right now. Go. I'll watch everything for you.

Your friend Anonymous

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 03:31 PM

TomJoe

01-19-2005, 03:34 PM

I still think a large number of those people knew they were bad, bad, very bad, but wanted to be on TV.

Maybe they think they can be the next William Hung (http://www.williamhung.net/).

I also sensed that some of them may have been able to sing in the right circumstances.

Yes, but I heard that American Idol didn't allow people to bring their showers to the audition.

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 03:38 PM

TomJoe

01-19-2005, 03:40 PM

I still think a large number of those people knew they were bad, bad, very bad, but wanted to be on TV.

Maybe they think they can be the next William Hung (http://www.williamhung.net/).Where have I heard that before? (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35209&postcount=12) :D

Yah yah yah... but at least I gave a link to his website! :P

PS: If people haven't noticed by now, I have the habit of hitting quote and replying to a post before I read the entire thread.

LadyShea

01-19-2005, 03:41 PM

Judging from the clips I had seen, I always figured Simon was an icey bastard and intentionally cruel, but having seen the program now I have to say that he's my favorite of the lot (not that that's necessarily saying so much). It's Paula's kindness which strikes me as contrived now, and that Randy guy is just a total buffoon.

I noted Randy lost a lot of weight for this season. I think he got tired of people he criticized calling him fat.

Simon is cold, but he's honest. If any of those people are serious, they will try to "make it" in spite of Simon's criticisms...others should take it as a much needed wake up call that they need to formulate a new dream...like that Braxton guy!

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 03:44 PM

Yah yah yah... but at least I gave a link to his website! :P Okay, I bow before your greatness. No, really, I do. :bow: :bow: :bow:

TomJoe

01-19-2005, 03:45 PM

I think all the judges perfected the "jaw-drop, open mouthed, blank stare, I can't believe you're wasting our time" look for this season. Everytime they panned to the judges when someone was really, really bad... they all had that look. I guess after listening to all of those people though it could have simply been them all sleeping with their eyes open too...

Am I the only one who gets embarrassed watching these shows? Not for myself, but for them... some of these people were so bad, I couldn't stand to watch it because I knew millions of people (me included) were laughing at them.

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 03:45 PM

I have dim recollections of Randy's former girth. Too bad the stupidity didn't come off with the pounds.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 03:51 PM

I'm sure it's a little of everything. Some can really sing, others are deluded, still others are auditioning to be the next William Hung, etc. It's painful to see the ones who seem slightly crazy or brain damaged making fools of themselves and being ridiculed and/or insulted by the judges, but then again I suspect they aren't treated as poorly by all the staff throughout the whole experience. It's show business, after all.

Some of them really do believe they can sing (the girl who said God sent her??)
But oh man, Simon saying "God just told us loud and clear that he doesn't want you to win" went straight to the top of my list of funniest Idol moments. :D

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 03:55 PM

How intelligent must one be to recognize whether or not someone can sing or has star quality? Randy Jackson played bass for the group Journey, is a Grammy award winning record producer with over 20 years in the music business. I think he might be qualified for the job. Hell, I don't know shit and I can tell bad from good.

FYI: Randy Jackson lost the weight the same way Al Roker of NBC The Today Show did, gastric bypass surgery.

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 04:04 PM

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 04:12 PM

Randy Jackson was in Journey? That's bizarre.

TomJoe

01-19-2005, 04:26 PM

Randy Jackson was in Journey? That's bizarre.

He was an additional bassist for one album, and then played bass for a second album (and a shortened tour... halted because of Steve Perry and exhaustion), after which Journey then took a 10 year hiatus. Total, he was associated with Journey for 3 years (1983-1986).

Info here (http://www.journey-zone.com/Sections/Band/Journey/jackson.htm).

PS: As far as I am concerned, this is yet another reason to hate him. Journey sucks! :P

livius drusus

01-19-2005, 04:29 PM

Though they touched they went their separate ways.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 04:31 PM

Don't stop believing.

Roland98

01-19-2005, 04:35 PM

Oh, I believe that some of the horrible singers may actually have good voices. As a former church soloist, I know what nerves can do if you allow them to take over. You must have a clear, open throat and strong diaphram control otherwise even the best voice can sound really horrible. In practices when I was very unsure and learning songs, I could hurt ears, but by the time I got on stage, I was confident enough with it to do it right.

Doing it a capella also is more diffficult. I myself have something of a tin ear, and if I'm going to sing something without accompianment, I have to sing it over and over and over with a piano first, to hear where I'm going off-key and correct myself. But when I have something to keep me in tune, I sound pretty good. I imagine that's the trouble with a lot of these people too--they sound good in choir, or singing accompanied to a piano or karaoke or whatever, but when they do it with no music to back them up, they change keys and are completely out of tune.

But that Mary girl was just a freak!!

I hate American Idol, but the last few seasons we've watched the first few episodes, before they start getting to the good people. Then it's just not fun anymore.

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 04:37 PM

Sorry, Warren, but as far as I'm concerned, he should stick to kissing platinum artists' asses, or moving things up and down and soundboards or whatever the hell it is producers do. His inarticulate false bonhomie makes him a shit critic from where I'm sitting, and on a personal note, I find it far more insulting than Simon's acid tongue, although I'm sure many others would disagree.I wasn't implying that I agree with Randy Jackson's choices he makes on American Idol, sometimes I'm left scratching my head. I'm just saying he should be qualified about as much as anyone on the panel. BTW, I lurve Simon, he cuts to the quick.

Perhaps they should've gotten Prince Rogers Nelson instead, now he's a real starmaker; Appolonia, Vanity, Sheila E., Sheena Easton, etc. Okay, except for Ms. Easton the rest were a flash in the pan, but they made it pretty well on his royal purple coattails during their 15 minutes.

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 04:39 PM

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 04:47 PM

I wasn't implying that I agree with Randy Jackson's choices he makes on American Idol, sometimes I'm left scratching my head. I'm just saying he should be qualified about as much as anyone on the panel. BTW, I lurve Simon, he cuts to the quick.
I like Simon too, only in previous seasons he was more brutally honest than plain old insulting ass as he was last night. The show is trying to hard to capitalize on the aspects of the panel that characterized them in the first seasons, instead of just letting them be themselves. In other words I think the show has become a parody of itself.

Perhaps they should've gotten Prince Rogers Nelson instead, now he's a real starmaker; Appolonia, Vanity, Sheila E., Sheena Easton, etc. Okay, except for Ms. Easton the rest were a flash in the pan, but they made it pretty well on his royal purple coattails during their 15 minutes.
Don't forget Morris Day and The Time, and the songs he wrote that others have performed: Sinead O'connor (Nothing Compares 2 U), Chaka Khan (I Feel For You), and a bazillion others. Prince has been my favorite all around musician since I saw the movie Purple Rain at 17. :yup:

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 04:50 PM

I hate American Idol, but the last few seasons we've watched the first few episodes, before they start getting to the good people. Then it's just not fun anymore.That's me. I couldn't give a rat's ass about the finalists, it's the auditions that the best entertainment.
Y'all are weird. I find it a lot more fun to watch good singers strive to become great performers than to watch people who can't sing at all embarrass themselves.

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 05:03 PM

Dingfod

01-19-2005, 05:19 PM

Y'all are weird. I find it a lot more fun to watch good singers strive to become great performers than to watch people who can't sing at all embarrass themselves.Outside of Ms. Kelly Clarkson, I haven't really seen or heard any singers that appeal to my tastes, on American Idol. I can't stand the current style of solo singing that seems to be everpresent today, the -- waivering all over the scales, seeking to find the right note, can't seem to settle on the one that was actually written -- style.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 05:19 PM

I suppose it's the morbid sense of humor that I have. What do you call it when people get joy out of the failure of others? I must not be alone in that, American Idol is immensely popular. However, people that go on American Idol are volunteers, nobody is making them get in front of the world and make complete fools of themselves.
You're definitely not alone in it. Americas Most Sadistic Funniest Home Videos topped the charts for an awful long time. In fact just about every reality show these days makes the failure of others a primary focus. Apparently that is what American television viewers enjoy above all else. I'll be shocked if the Discovery or History channels ever have a fraction of the viewership of Jerry Springer or Survivor. I don't know why I don't delight in the misery of others, but I do realize that admitting it doesn't make me a lot of friends...

I don't like when news reporters get right in the face of people that have suffered great tragedy, a disaster or a death in the family and just keep the camera on them as they sob. In the same vein, I was a little uncomfortable with American Idol doing the same thing, focusing the tears in the aftermath of self-destruction.
I completely agree. And maybe that's where the line is drawn, really. Could be the lower the production value the more realistic and thereby less amusing it is. Maybe it's just easier for some to suspend disbelief than it is for me. :shrug:

TomJoe

01-19-2005, 05:25 PM

I don't know why I don't delight in the misery of others, but I do realize that admitting it doesn't make me a lot of friends...

I'm not particularly fond of the entire "reality television" genre either. Shows like Survivor, The Amazing Race, American Idol and Fear Factor don't appeal to me. I much rather rent a movie. American Idol doubly doesn't appeal to me because I can't stand the crap they sing. I can hardly bring myself to listen to the radio as it is (I love my MP3 player I have in my car... I can go days without listening to the same song twice) not only because it's 75/25 in terms of commercials to music (which goes for talk radio as well) but the music nowadays stinks to high heaven.

viscousmemories

01-19-2005, 06:11 PM

Oh but I love American Idol. :D The thing is I watch it for the good singers, I don't delight in watching people bomb horribly. Which isn't to say that I don't sometimes crack a smile or laugh at particularly bad voices or funny looking people, just that I'd be as big (if not more) a fan of the show if they showcased only the singers with potential.

Beth

01-19-2005, 07:20 PM

JoeP

01-19-2005, 08:11 PM

I suppose it's the morbid sense of humor that I have. What do you call it when people get joy out of the failure of others? ...
Schadenfreude (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude) ... ach, bitte, Perhaps the greatest word in any language (http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A287255)

livius drusus

01-20-2005, 01:30 AM

Oh man, that Proud Mary montage was priceless. :lmao:

viscousmemories

01-20-2005, 01:32 AM

It was. And I'm glad they slammed the arrogant cruise ship singer.

livius drusus

01-20-2005, 01:58 AM

I thought I knew pain. I was wrong.

Dingfod

01-20-2005, 03:04 PM

It was. And I'm glad they slammed the arrogant cruise ship singer.He wasn't even a good cruise ship singer. I think he padded his resumé.

viscousmemories

01-20-2005, 04:01 PM

Amen. And his teeth were too blindingly white. I could barely make out his face.

livius drusus

01-20-2005, 04:05 PM

I think his teeth only looked that white on account of his cruise ship tan in a can.

AspenMama

01-20-2005, 05:19 PM

:popcorn: Yay, I can finally admit my guilty pleasure: An addiction to American Idol.

Between quizzing my son on his spelling words and chasing my daughter into her PJ's last night, I caught most of the show. I'm always struck at how angry some of them get when they are turned down and their claims that they're gonna make it anyhow. I wonder if they watch the show later ever, and change their minds?

Does anyone remember Scooter Girl from last season? I was upset she didn't make the final 12-- I would've picked her over several of the finalists.

P.S. I can't sing worth a dime and of course I'm too old to audition so you all will be spared my warble unless you visit Denver for a get together-- I do sound better after a few drinks. :yup:

LadyShea

01-26-2005, 04:40 AM

New Orleans tonight. Leroy Wells was on crack I believe.

livius drusus

01-26-2005, 04:47 AM

I didn't get what all was going on with the twins at the end there, nor do I get why they voted yes on those other twins. I really liked the Louis Armstrong guy's voice. I'm glad he made it to the next round.

Gene Simmons is gross. Just a thought.

viscousmemories

01-26-2005, 04:48 AM

New Orleans tonight. Leroy Wells was on crack I believe.
:chuckle: Not a doubt in my mind. He was the only interesting contestant though.

LadyShea

01-26-2005, 06:30 AM

Gene Simmons is gross

Agreed.

wei yau

01-26-2005, 02:47 PM

I don't really get into this show until Hollywood. The auditions are filled with too much fluff (although the entire series suffers from this flaw) and too many obvious non-candidates.

I guess the producers feel that the true candidates get enough face time later on in the series. And there's definitely a huge element of "point and laughing" at the losers.

But, that part doesn't appeal to me.

So, bring on the contestants and let the games begin! Until then, I'll just give this show a passing glance.

wei yau

01-27-2005, 04:09 PM

livius drusus

01-27-2005, 04:20 PM

viscousmemories

01-27-2005, 04:26 PM

There were two women last night who I predict to be in the top 12. The tall, thin brunette with long, straight, black hair, and the asian looking woman with feathered hair in the gauzy white costume. (Okay my memory sucks and I'm terrible at descriptions.)

Anyway. Both of those women definitely in the top 12. Also the adorable, peppy, Cyndi Lauper wanna-be is not a definite for the top 12, but a good possibility. Lucky Simon let her sing another tune after her initial fingernails on the chalkboard performance.

Shake

01-27-2005, 07:22 PM

The total mutilation of "I Can't Help Falling in Love with You" by that psychic woman who had predicted she'd be in the top 10 made me physically ill, and then Kenny Loggins made it all better by saying "That's amazing. You've just ended two careers at once." :giggle:
Ok, last night was the first time I've ever seen this show! But I found it interesting how afterwards she was still able to rationalize the prediction. :rolleye1:

Also, the old guy was really, really weird.
The guy who was "28"? I loved how they put that in quotes.

Anyway, other than a few interesting moments, I found the show basically: :yawn:

viscousmemories

01-27-2005, 07:56 PM

Anyway, other than a few interesting moments, I found the show basically: :yawn:
It gets much better after these initial auditions, when it becomes competition between good singers instead of having a primary focus on bad ones. If you're into singing competitions, that is.

livius drusus

02-03-2005, 01:45 AM

I think it's way past time for a total Whitney Houston moratorium on AI. It's unbearable, really.

SharonDee

02-03-2005, 02:08 AM

Oh, gag. Now I'm really glad I don't watch that show. :smugnod:

livius drusus

02-03-2005, 02:21 AM

No kidding. I'm beginning to understand how Van Gogh felt.

LadyShea

02-03-2005, 03:52 AM

New Orleans tonight. Leroy Wells was on crack I believe.

Didja watch last night? Viva Las Vegas, baby!

of course, there's no reason why you should have to have watched, I mean just because the auditions took place in Vegas, doesn't automatically mean you have to watch it

I missed this!

Yes, I have watched all the episodes thus far. I could have predicted that the freaks would be out in force in Vegas. We're just that kinda town.

Last night was just kinda sad....except for LL. My gawd the man is hot. He makes me feel all aflutter :fantasy:

Beth

02-03-2005, 12:26 PM

*sigh* I watched another night of Idol. I thought the guy who spoke and sang like a woman had a beautiful voice and that he should have been let through on his voice, even if it did not match his gender. I also agree with Liv on her picks. I really liked seeing the boy who had the hysterical mother and his reaction and embarrassment on the camera. I would not have reacted like that, but inside I felt like that when my son received various suprise awards from school, I can imagine that some people see Idol as a chance to launch their kids into stardom and ensure a solid future. (Unfortunately I do not see fame like that.) Anyhoo, the mom made my night and made me smile horribly.

AspenMama

02-03-2005, 04:55 PM

I caught most of last night's show. Too cool-- a guy actually sang a Queen song and they let him in-- We are the Champions

What the heck was with the girl in the cow outfit and grabbing her udders???

Dingfod

02-03-2005, 06:29 PM

I caught most of last night's show. Too cool-- a guy actually sang a Queen song and they let him in-- We are the ChampionsThat was cool though, he was dead on the notes and showed he had range, much like Freddie Mercury, who he was imitating.

How about the crooners? I never would've believed that someone would make it to Hollywood on American Idol singing "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" in San Francisco, but what a voice. The other guy with the porkpie hat had a velvety voice like Mel Torme, pretty cool.

What the heck was with the girl in the cow outfit and grabbing her udders???She seemed to be mad that she didn't make it. Was she serious? How about the mime?

*sigh* I watched another night of Idol. I thought the guy who spoke and sang like a woman had a beautiful voice and that he should have been let through on his voice, even if it did not match his gender.I thought he was off-key on the high notes, I cringed when he sang them.

One that didn't make it, but should've, was that girl toward the beginning of the show that sang "Getting to Know You." from "The King and I". Now, she could sing. Booted because she was fugly. Damn, that's harsh.

viscousmemories

02-03-2005, 07:56 PM

I've always liked crooners, and that Kid Rock lookin' one had an amazing range and clarity I didn't expect at all from such a creepy looking person. I hope he stays in.

Beth

02-03-2005, 10:15 PM

*sigh* I watched another night of Idol. I thought the guy who spoke and sang like a woman had a beautiful voice and that he should have been let through on his voice, even if it did not match his gender.I thought he was off-key on the high notes, I cringed when he sang them. Maybe so. I did not get to hear all of the audition because I had to put some laundry on and do a few things for my daughter. But the part I heard sounded nice. I guess the judges were not squicked by the female voice coming out of the male mouth, then. Or maybe not.

viscousmemories

02-03-2005, 11:01 PM

guess the judges were not squicked by the female voice coming out of the male mouth, then. Or maybe not.
I definitely think they were. In fact Simon's first comment was that the dude has much more important decisions to make than whether to be an American Idol, and I was positive he meant like whether or not to get a sex change.

livius drusus

02-04-2005, 03:55 PM

The rapping nanny was actually a comedian pulling a publicity stunt (http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/39797.htm). I kind of hate him now.

viscousmemories

02-04-2005, 04:07 PM

Oh come'on. You kinda hated him then. :P

I kinda like him now. :giggle:

livius drusus

02-04-2005, 04:10 PM

Oh yeah. Good point. :giggles:

Dingfod

02-04-2005, 06:28 PM

The rapping nanny was actually a comedian pulling a publicity stunt (http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/39797.htm). I kind of hate him now.I thought there was something familiar about him. Now I know.

livius drusus

02-09-2005, 03:49 PM

wei yau

02-09-2005, 05:03 PM

I had no idea "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me" was even remotely famous in the US. I've known the original Italian song pretty much since birth, and although I know the English version I thought it was just done by a local group known for translating famous Italian songs.

Thanks to American Idol, I now know Dusty Springfield sang it. That's pretty cool. :yup:

I've not seen this episode yet, it's on the DVR. However, now I am looking forward to it, as I love that song and I love Dusty Springfield.

Thanks to you, I now know that the song was originally Italian. That's pretty cool. :yup:

livius drusus

02-09-2005, 05:18 PM

That's great, eldar! I've been bellowing "Io che non vivo piu di un'ora senza te" all morning. My poor co-workers... :giggles:

wei yau

02-09-2005, 05:22 PM

So, do they butcher that lovely song?

livius drusus

02-09-2005, 05:26 PM

Not really, eldar. At this stage the singers are basically competent (although there were some massive pooch-screws) and all the snippets I heard sounded good. They don't show anyone singing the whole song, though. That's a bit annoying.

livius drusus

02-17-2005, 02:08 AM

Does Randy Jackson really have to say dog all the time? It's just dumb.

Crumb

02-17-2005, 02:30 AM

He's not saying "dog" :rolleye1:

He is saying "Dawg!" :nyahnyah:

livius drusus

02-17-2005, 02:34 AM

You're just encouraging him. :P

wei yau

02-17-2005, 02:47 PM

Gah, what a pointless episode. I missed the first two-three minutes (LOST ran long), so maybe there was a reason to bring all of these people to Pasadena and then cut them.

What's the point of having Tuesday night's round of elimination, if all you're going to do is cut them again on Wednesday without any additional performances?

Still, I'm not complaining too much. I'm glad that Jamar is gone, how I hated him. And now the competition really gets underway.

But, oy, three nights? That's a lot of American Idol in one week.

livius drusus

02-17-2005, 02:58 PM

I'm with you, eldar. I kept waiting for the singing parts and all they had were frickin flashbacks. It's like the all drama queen and asshole episode. Great. Not at all annoying. :nojustno:

LadyShea

02-17-2005, 04:02 PM

Dingfod

02-17-2005, 04:08 PM

Oh, hell. I've lost interest already. Let me know when the have the episode with all the flubbed auditions. Apparently that's all I care about.

wei yau

02-17-2005, 04:28 PM

viscousmemories

02-17-2005, 04:31 PM

I cannot fathom why they chose to drag that out. Make those people thrilled one day then cut them individually the next after sitting in a room for however many hours, counting how many got in/got cut? How horrible for them emotionally.
Keep in mind that it was only the next day for us viewers. Ryan mentioned "several weeks have passed since their last performance..." when he intro'd last night. Frankly I'm wondering if they flew them home and back or if they had to stay in Hollywood for the whole time or what...

Beth

02-17-2005, 05:20 PM

I cannot fathom why they chose to drag that out. Make those people thrilled one day then cut them individually the next after sitting in a room for however many hours, counting how many got in/got cut? How horrible for them emotionally.
Isn't Fox the ones who did "Who's Your Daddy"? Sadism seems the norm for reality TV. Anyway, VM is right, I think I remember hearing Ryan say it had been several weeks that had passed.

wei yau

02-17-2005, 05:32 PM

Anyway, VM is right, I think I remember hearing Ryan say it had been several weeks that had passed.

That being the case, I'm even more confused. What happened during those weeks that cause some people to be cut? Were there additional performances? Was there extensive deliberation between the judges?

Whatever it was, I'd rather have seen that instead of watching these kids sit in a room filled with anxiety, listen to Seacrest spew a bunch of vacuous claptrap and watch footage I've already seen.

Still, my bitterness is at an end. The competition starts next week and maybe we'll get to hear the contestants sing for a change.

livius drusus

02-17-2005, 05:39 PM

Is Seacrest eye candy or what? I swear they use him to feed the worst parts of the show: all the montages and soaring background cheese music, and the blubbering and cussing and screaming and mommy-calling. They should do me a favor and just make one show without any of that shit. Just the contestants and the judges doing their damn jobs.

Crumb

02-17-2005, 06:01 PM

Hmm, I guess I am not missing much by never watching this show. :)

wei yau

02-24-2005, 03:26 PM

Well, that was pointlessly cruel.

Don't get me wrong, I have a hard heaert and a mean streak. I would have laughed myself silly if any of the losing contestants completely broke down while singing one last time. I would have peed myself if they just simply threw the microphone down and walked off the stage.

I would have enjoyed all of this, but that does not mean I don't recognize it as being completely cruel.

Actually worse that making the losers sing once more is how drawn out the whole process is, drawn out and boring. I just want to reach into my set and grab smarmy Seacrest and kick his ass up into his shoulders.

livius drusus

02-24-2005, 03:55 PM

I agree that it's just mean to draw it out the way they do, mean and boring. Somehow, the fact that they have to sing the same song they got tossed out on makes it even worse.

Seacrest was nice to the first girl, though.

wei yau

02-24-2005, 04:22 PM

I liked how the first girl came right out and said that the producers had pimped their favorites in the run-up to the competition (Scott Savol, Vonzell, Constantine) with a tremendous amount of footage for the viewing public. However, she (and several others) did not receive this benefit.

Now, while I admit that there have been other contestants (LaToya London) who also did not get the extra footage but were still able to proceed far into the competition, she's got a point.

She was a mediocre singer with horrible stage presence, granted. But, she's not alone in this group. However, some of the others who suffer from this problem, benefit from having been pimped by the producers. So, it's not a level playing field for all of the mediocre singers.

At any rate, she wouldn't have lasted long, but it was nice to see her take a shot at the producers.

What wasn't nice was seeing Paula turn on her right after she made the comments. Now, all of a sudden, Paula recognizes her performance at being pitchy. I call bullshit. Paula didn't have an unkind word to say to anyone, no matter how much they sucked. But, when her paymasters are being criticized, she goes into attack-dog mode. She can be crueler than Simon, because Simon doesn't pretend to be nice.

Yes, I'm invested way too much in this show.

livius drusus

02-24-2005, 04:40 PM

I liked how the first girl came right out and said that the producers had pimped their favorites in the run-up to the competition (Scott Savol, Vonzell, Constantine) with a tremendous amount of footage for the viewing public. However, she (and several others) did not receive this benefit.

True that, and I did think it was rather ballsy of her to state the obvious amidst the cascade of "you're all very talented" bullshit. At the same time, it is kind of a dig at her co-constestants, and it seems to me that most of the pimped folk -- Vonzell, Carrie, Amanda, Nadia -- were hella better than her.

What wasn't nice was seeing Paula turn on her right after she made the comments. Now, all of a sudden, Paula recognizes her performance at being pitchy. I call bullshit. Paula didn't have an unkind word to say to anyone, no matter how much they sucked. But, when her paymasters are being criticized, she goes into attack-dog mode. She can be crueler than Simon, because Simon doesn't pretend to be nice.

I was thinking about that. I don't recall Paula saying word one about pitch during the first performance, just the usual passive aggressive song choice thing. I think I'm beginning to notice when Paula hates someone. She compliments something random and is vague on the particulars.

I wouldn't call her pitch comment much of an attack, though. She wasn't snappy or cruel about it and it was marked with her usual tentative, self-conscious sensitivity.

wei yau

02-24-2005, 04:44 PM

At the same time, it is kind of a dig at her co-constestants, and it seems to me that most of the pimped folk -- Vonzell, Carrie, Amanda, Nadia -- were hella better than her.

No doubt. Melinda's days were numbered, though the number should have been greater than one. She did this one squat move during her performance that made me think she was suffering from some type of intestinal distress.

I wouldn't call her pitch comment much of an attack, though. She wasn't snappy or cruel about it and it was marked with her usual tentative, self-conscious sensitivity.

Well...yeah....sure... :shy:

But, most of the enjoyment I get from reality shows is finding someone to hate. If I start being compassionate, understanding and realistic, I'll ruin my own fun.

viscousmemories

02-24-2005, 05:54 PM

I noticed Randy get pissed last week when Constantine told him to stick to rap, then last night they played it off like Seacrest had really said it. Granted the cameras weren't pointed at who actually said it so I can't say for sure, but Randy was sitting right there staring at them and he was visibly agitated by the comment. I honestly think it's a cover-up... that Ryan took the hit to keep Constantine in the running. They were all just too fishy about it last night.

As for the dragging shit out... IIRC Ryan was annoyed by it when they first started doing that. I swear the first few results shows were 30 minutes, then I remember him making snide remarks like, "Join us next week when I try to drag out the results show for a full hour!"

The cruelty is really sad, but that's show biz. These people are in this because they believe they deserve to be crowned King or Queen of America and have all the attendant rewards of fame and fortune. They're free to walk away at any time, like that one (imo very sensible) woman did. The show makes money from ratings, and the ratings presumably go up when there are cliff-hangers and tragedies. :shrug:

AspenMama

02-24-2005, 06:10 PM

I missed Tuesday completely. But I'll watch it later. :D

I think I will purposely skip Wednesdays. It's a waste of time.

livius drusus

03-02-2005, 01:15 AM

The dudes were good last night (particularly Bo and Anwar) but the girls are totally sucking so far.

wei yau

03-02-2005, 11:48 AM

The dudes were good last night (particularly Bo and Anwar) but the girls are totally sucking so far.

And continued to suck as the evening progressed.

The suckitude was so bad, that I couldn't even recognize Nadia's pretty good performance.

I can't tell if the band is too loud or if the girls are singing too low, but I can hardly hear them. Also, I guess they are spending more money to secure rights to more recent songs. I don't recognize more than half of them.

Dingfod

03-02-2005, 12:37 PM

Makes me glad I didn't watch it. I was watching the first hour of Dirty Little Billy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068487/) on the Western channel, then switched over to watch House (http://www.fox.com/house/), then I toddled off to bed.

livius drusus

03-02-2005, 12:53 PM

And continued to suck as the evening progressed.

The suckitude was so bad, that I couldn't even recognize Nadia's pretty good performance.

Ain't that the damned truth. Could you even stand Carrie's squeal like a pig version of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart? I seriously could not believe my ears.

I can't tell if the band is too loud or if the girls are singing too low, but I can hardly hear them.

My theory is they're trying to play with their ranges so the judges don't give them the "it's too safe; take a risk" treatment, and in so doing, they end up picking songs that start off waaaay too low for them. Once the can sing in their actual registers, they manage to make some noise.

Also, I guess they are spending more money to secure rights to more recent songs. I don't recognize more than half of them.

Hmmm... I didn't recognize lots of them, but there have always been a good proportion of songs I've never heard.

wei yau

03-02-2005, 02:38 PM

Could you even stand Carrie's squeal like a pig version of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart? I seriously could not believe my ears.

There's a song that I actually knew, but had no idea that she was singing it until the chorus.

As I understand it, Carrie was not doing the Janis Joplin version. Instead, she was performing the Faith Hill cover of that song.

That's just wrong in so many ways.

livius drusus

03-02-2005, 03:43 PM

Well, it was clearly not the Janis version. I had no idea, however, that Faith Hill had mutilated it before Carrie did. :yuck:

wei yau

03-08-2005, 10:00 PM

If there's any justice in this world, Constantine and Travis should be booted tomorrow.

livius drusus

03-09-2005, 12:07 AM

Afuckingmen. There is no justice, however, and those two smarmmasters will doubtless remain to torture us.

viscousmemories

03-09-2005, 12:22 AM

I predict that it's the end for Travis, Nikko and Scott. Well okay, maybe just two of those three. Say Travis and Nikko.

And I'm going out to dinner tonight so I won't see the girls perform, but I'll predict now anyway that it's over for Janay and Vonzell.

Another random prediction: Either Anwar, Nadia, Bo or Mario is going to win.

livius drusus

03-09-2005, 01:53 AM

How the hell did Janay even get this far? How? She's just horrible, incompetent, vile. I don't understand. Who the hell is voting for her?

wei yau

03-10-2005, 03:20 PM

Afuckingmen. There is no justice, however, and those two smarmmasters will doubtless remain to torture us.

No justice. No peace.

Well, I would normally be happy by getting only half of what I wanted. But, I wanted Constantine out way more than Travis. At least Travis is entertaining. Constantine is just a poser.

There's no way Nikko was worse than Constantine. I chalk up his booting to Anwar siphoning off votes.

As for the girls....meh. Janay should've been out weeks ago and I'll miss the eye-candy that is Amanda. But, so far, with the exception of Nadia, none of the girls have my interest.

LadyShea

03-10-2005, 03:46 PM

I thought Amanda did much better than Mikayla..that Streisand tune was horrid. They like her "spunk" or whatever, but I think she's obnoxious personally. Anyway, Amanda has a good job to come back to (hopefully) and lots of friends...they all gather at TI before their shows to watch Idol and our local news has talked to them several times.

I thought the best female performance this week was Nadia with Jessica a close second. I missed the guys because I forgot it was on, but I like Anwar a lot...his Moon River was brilliant.

viscousmemories

03-10-2005, 04:14 PM

Hey, look at me! I called three out of the four. I'm suprised Amanda got booted over Vonzell. I confess I've never paid much attention to either of them, but I thought America would boot the average looking black girl before the beautiful Vegas showgirl. It's almost as if people have suddenly started voting for vocal quality over appearance this year. (Well okay, there was that big guy who won last year, but I didn't watch last year so for all I know he was the lesser of many evils).

Ahem. Anyway I like Mikayla. Yeah she's obnoxious, but she's also 16. I think it's cool that she's so high-energy and silly yet has such a powerful voice, range and control of it. Then again I missed her performance this week, so I might sing a different tune if I'd seen it.

All four I predicted as possible winners are in the top 12. At this point I'm guessing it'll come down to Bo or Nadia. Probably Nadia. She's my early prediction for winner. :yup:

AspenMama

03-10-2005, 04:17 PM

I thought the best female performance this week was Nadia with Jessica a close second. I missed the guys because I forgot it was on, but I like Anwar a lot...his Moon River was brilliant.

I agree that Mikayla was very sucky. But I think she might do well in the coming weeks when they are required to do pop songs-- which I think will weed out the rockers and country sorts. I also agree about Nadia and Jessica. But I have to say, the men are much better this time around overall and I think one of the guys will take it home.

I see why Constantine is getting the votes-- he seems like a genuine person who is just doing his thing-- and when he smiles, his entire face smiles-- his eyes crinkle up too. Granted, his voice is very average-- but this is not just about voice. And I think he did that Sting song just fine-- didn't sound like an imitation to me. Mario, honestly, I don't care for-- his voice is indeed excellent, but he is too feminine for my tastes. I like Anwar but he needs to get more interesting fast-- as Simon mentioned, he's too nice. Our other rocker-- Bo (right?) -- he's got a decent voice and personality. I will be surprised though if he lasts through the pop stuff they're likely to impose on him. I like our Russian contestant. I'm betting he'll be a finalist. Those are the ones that stand out to me.

LadyShea

03-10-2005, 04:32 PM

I don't remember this strict separation of males and females in previous seasons, though I must admit I really didn't watch last season at all. Has it always been done this way?

AspenMama

03-10-2005, 06:10 PM

No. It's a new thing. Although, I think now it won't matter. They're all equal. I guess last year they felt the guys didn't get fair play.

livius drusus

03-11-2005, 12:23 AM

AspenMama

03-11-2005, 03:04 AM

I love Bo. He really needs to shave that soulpatch and goat combo. It's just too goofy looking. And I bet he'll nail the stupid pop crap they make him sing. He's done weddings and bar mitzvahs, remember.
Yeah that's true that he probably could sing those songs--but if you consider the singing hierarchy, we've got hotel bar singers, cruise ship singers and wedding singers....

What I like about Bo is that he's not pretentous. He's just got that raw dough appeal. But can he keep up his originality in the coming weeks or will it all be beat into the highly processed neatly wrapped packages we see on every other shelf?

Damn you can tell when I haven't had sex in a while-- my writing all comes out like this....

livius drusus

03-14-2005, 12:47 PM

Extra! Extra! Mario quit and Nikko is back (http://www.suntimes.com/output/television/cst-ftr-idol14.html). :news:

AspenMama

03-14-2005, 01:59 PM

Wow! I'm glad Nikko is back. He deserves to be in the top bunch. Mario did too even though he wasn't my fav. This is the first season where we've had a couple of people quit.

wei yau

03-14-2005, 02:38 PM

Extra! Extra! Mario quit and Nikko is back (http://www.suntimes.com/output/television/cst-ftr-idol14.html). :news:

Oh frabujous day!

This is great news to start my day.

livius drusus

03-14-2005, 09:37 PM

Here's (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,16117,00.html?tnews) a bit more juice on the Mario situation from E! Online.

wei yau

03-16-2005, 02:08 PM

Watched last night's episode.

I'd have more to say but I'm still stunned that Constantine didn't totally suck.

viscousmemories

03-16-2005, 04:33 PM

I thought that too, eldar. I've hated him from day two, but he was pretty good last night.

Nadia and Bo are champs, Nikko sucked hard.

For the most part I agreed with Simon on everyone. Scott bored me though.

wei yau

03-16-2005, 04:45 PM

Well, I'm pretty confident that Lindsey will get the boot tonight.

I find that I often agree with Simon, though I find his analogies to theme park, lounge and karaoke singers to be tiresome.

I'd love to see a Nadia v. Bo as the Final Two.

viscousmemories

03-16-2005, 04:49 PM

Did you watch the first couple of seasons? Simon has always been brutally honest, but in this season he's been emphasizing the brutal over the honest. I think he and/or the producers figured that his blunt "you suck" comments would be more interesting if he dressed them up with negative comparisons and such.

How many are going tonight? If two then Nikko and Lindsay should be gone. If one I'm nearly certain it'll be Nikko.

wei yau

03-16-2005, 04:54 PM

I've only missed Season 1, which is a shame. I need to check if it is available on DVD.

I agree that Simon is the only honest judge. Paula is too afraid of hurting people and Randy is often irrelevant (for example, all of his criticisms seem to boil down to "I didn't like it"). Simon does seem to be focusing on the "brutal", as you say. It's clear the producers want a villain. It's a shame because people aren't listening to his valid criticisms for all the booing.

I'm pretty sure it's one person and I'm betting on Lindsey. But, then again, you may be right. Nikko wasn't very good and as a last minute replacement, will suffer from a much smaller fanbase.

AspenMama

03-18-2005, 08:08 AM

I thought Lindsey would go too. I was surprised by who was in the bottom three though, although, I have said the guys are kickin' butt this time around.

livius drusus

03-23-2005, 02:00 AM

viscousmemories

03-23-2005, 02:00 AM

Some really outstanding performances tonight. Carrie and Vonzell really stood out for me. Hard to say who's going home tomorrow, but I'll predict Mikala.

AspenMama

03-23-2005, 04:08 AM

Anthony pisses me off. Carrie rocked. Scott just totally grosses me out. Bo is dreamy good. Nikko is a ham. Vonzell sounded fabulous (for a big change). Constantine is nothing but a manwhore. Nadia was weird. Mikalah sang it all wrong. Anwar was eh. Jessica's lyrics were cut weird but she blew the song away.

Mikala will be gone this week. This is the first time I liked Carrie-- she went after someone else's amazingly unique and strong voice and brought it. Scott is somehow affected but didn't get this far for having totally sucky vocals. Nikko is not my favorite and I don't care for his style. Vonzell not only sounded good, she looked good tonight. Nadia tried to do the funky 80s Mohawk hair to go with her song. Bleh. She ruined her good looks. Anwar needs to step it up. I like Jessica. I hope she stays in for a while. Constantine was himself. Confident, flirty, grinny. I wouldn't date him, but I get his attraction. Bo was good. Anthony-- I don't care one way or the other. He's got a good voice but he seems a bit standoffish.

LadyShea

03-23-2005, 04:11 AM

No fair this West coast stuff.

Okay, typed as they happened!

Anthony was off fucking key half the song and the judges couldn't hear it for some reason
Carrie was so good I got chills
Scott sings okay, but when he talks I get the creeps. Where is he from?
Bo gave a lovely performance. Really beautiful.
Nikko's cheesy costumes are getting on my nerves, but he sang good.
Vonzell also bugs me when she talks, but she chose a really good song and did a good job.
Constantine chose one of my secret, guilty faves. Redoing songs out of one's usual genre does well commercially, so...he did good.
Nadia chose a good song, but they music was way too fast and the drums too loud.
Mikalah sucks. I can't stand the girl.
Anwar was unfortunately boring
I see I am agreeing with livius here...who the hell does the mix/cuts to make the songs shorter? They fucked up Total Eclipse of the Heart, Jessica did a great job but it could have been so much better.

wei yau

03-23-2005, 02:35 PM

Gonna have to agree with both live and LadyShea.

I found Anthony to be incredibly boring in the past, last night did nothing to change my opinion.

I really dug Carrie for the first time ever last night. I thought the big 80's hairdo was a nice touch.

Scott is a serial killer.

Bo is still my favorite.

Don't care for Nikko at all, didn't like his outfit, didn't like his song choice, didn't like his performance. None of it was necessarily bad, just not something that I like.

I liked Vonzell well enough, though she needs to do more to stand out.

Nadia. Hmmm. She's another one of my favorites, but has been criticized as being a one-trick pony. I think last night I saw it for the first time.

Constantine. Perhaps he realizes that the "rocker" thing is completely owned by Bo. Perhaps he's always been a popstar at heart. Either way, he does "pop" better than he does "rock". And this contest favors pop.

Mikala is definitely out this week.

Anwar was pretty much uninteresting.

Jessica did good, but as everyone has said, they fucked with the lyrics too much.

With each round of judging, I find that I often agree with Simon. Seems like he's the only useful judge there.

livius drusus

03-23-2005, 03:01 PM

Simon speaks truth. Paula is a horrible reviewer: utterly useless in her good girl coverups. Randy has one note and he plays it all the fucking time. Dawg.

I just hate to think of Bo being kicked before Constantine. I don't know what the kiddies see in that wannabe imitation of everyone Constantine likes to flog. He so smarmy and I'm sick to death of him offering his wares to the highest bidder every week. There isn't an inch of him he wouldn't sell out. Then again, I suppose that makes him the perfect American Idol.

wei yau

03-23-2005, 03:23 PM

Constantine's smarminess during his performances is perfectly encapsulated by this one phrase that is very popular on TWOP (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com).

"Eye-fucking"

Everytime he performs, I feel dirty.

wei yau

03-23-2005, 04:07 PM

Looks like Mikala gets to wait one more night before leaving...

A LIVE WEDNESDAY “PERFORMANCE SHOW” WITH A RE-VOTE

IMPORTANT PROGRAM NOTE CHANGE
Due to an error with the graphics shown on-screen (incorrect voting numbers were displayed) during the performance recap at the end of last night’s AMERICAN IDOL, a live, one-hour show will air tonight, Wednesday, March 23 9/8c on FOX, to enable a re-vote. This new show will combine new live elements with encores of Tuesday’s performances from the remaining 11 contestants.

Phone lines will open at the conclusion of tonight's show and will remain open for two hours to give viewers the chance to vote for their favorite contestants and keep them in the competition. Only the voting results from tonight’s show will determine who received the lowest number of votes and will be sent home this week. Tune in to see who America has chosen to stay and who is sent home on the live results show tomorrow, Thursday, March 24 9/8c live on FOX.

viscousmemories

03-23-2005, 04:30 PM

Oh sure, like FOX didn't just want an extra night of massive ratings. :D

AspenMama

03-25-2005, 05:06 PM

Well, we all knew Mikalah was out.

I thought Nadia had a bigger fanbase than that but it just goes to show how one bad performance can totally screw you. And Anwar needs to get some personality or he's out of here. Scott annoyed me further with the whole pointing to heaven thing. Sigh. Give yourself credit man, where credit is due.

viscousmemories

03-25-2005, 06:36 PM

Yeah, I wasn't surprised to lose Mikalah but I was very nervous that it was gonna be Nadia for a minute there. I think she has been consistently amazing throughout the competition for the most part, but that mohawk performance really did suck.

I was suprised that Nikko wasn't even in the bottom three, given that he'd already be gone if it wasn't for Mario having bailed. It really is a week by week thing at this point.

livius drusus

03-30-2005, 01:52 AM

viscousmemories

03-30-2005, 04:30 AM

I'm gonna predict Jessica or Scott has overstayed their welcome.

LadyShea

03-30-2005, 04:56 AM

Holy shit I was bored by the song choices tonight. Except Nadia's, I love that song.

Beth

03-30-2005, 01:48 PM

I'm gonna predict Jessica or Scott has overstayed their welcome.
Nah, my fellow Tampan is very talented! Heshup, you! :P

Beth

03-30-2005, 01:52 PM

Seriously y'all, I think Paula is drunk tonight, or at least chemically altered in some way. She's slurring her words, talking even more immense shit than usual and is just really sloppy. It's pretty weird.Gosh, tonight Paula acted like me when I'm on pain killers...I love the whooooole world. The kids said she acted like me when I get a headache and take my medicine- really irritatingly nice.

livius drusus

03-30-2005, 01:58 PM

:chuckle: Damn, Beth. Those kids of yours sure know how to hit below the belt.

I don't really know who did best last night. Vonzell was impressive, but I hate all Whitney Houston singing so I can't give her my vote. My standard favorite Bo didn't do it for me at all last night. Carrie's song was yucky. Anthony surprised me, I must admit. He looked much, much better with his hair mussed and his glasses off. His voice sounded great too.

Bella

03-30-2005, 03:14 PM

There was an article in the NY Times about how American Idol has changed the sound of pop music, and influencing other art forms like musical theatre. The author was mildly irritated because, he says, all the new artists sound alike - and he thinks that shows like AI (which in his opinion helps influence what people like to hear) have a sort of homogenizing effect. He said that the days of unique voices with real artistic talent are being replaced by vocal tricks - excessive belting, whistle tone a la Mariah Carey, et cetera - that mask the fact the artist can't emote or phrase.

Do you think this is true?

viscousmemories

03-30-2005, 03:52 PM

:laugh:

So American Idol has corrupted the once pristine reputation of pop music, eh? That's hilarious. Whatever happened to the notion that pop music ruined rock and roll?

Nah, my fellow Tampan is very talented! Heshup, you! :P
Hey don't get me wrong. I think she has an amazing voice and she seems really sweet. I just think the vast majority of voters are teenagers, and like Simon said I don't think she has as much popular appeal as the other people.

LadyShea

03-30-2005, 03:56 PM

Brittney Spears was/is a "real artistic talent" who could/can emote and phrase? Give me a break. Most pop idols do not write their own songs, neither lyrics nor music, they just get up there and sing and maybe try to look sexy...just like the American Idols.

That guy who wrote the article is sniffing glue.

viscousmemories

03-31-2005, 12:38 AM

Did Mario Vasquez exploit American Idol to get free publicity for projects he was working on prior to joining the competition? This interesting blog entry (http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/a/003516.html) examines that question and more. It's pretty interesting stuff. If he did, my hat's off to him.

livius drusus

03-31-2005, 02:05 AM

How I hate the We Are the World segments.

viscousmemories

03-31-2005, 02:37 AM

God I'm good.

LadyShea

03-31-2005, 02:38 AM

Who was it? I am on West Coast remember?

viscousmemories

03-31-2005, 02:39 AM

Jessica. :(

LadyShea

03-31-2005, 02:47 AM

Jessica. :(

You're kidding? That's too bad, she is good. I'll bet she gets a deal from someone anyway.

I want Scott gone, I think the guy can sing, but he's just too creepy.

livius drusus

03-31-2005, 03:10 AM

I totally agree, LadyShea. He's a dick too: can't take criticism at all, never makes eye contact, has a perpetual air of annoyed detachment.

Beth

03-31-2005, 03:18 PM

Poor Jessica. Scott and Anthony deserved it before she did.

viscousmemories

03-31-2005, 03:52 PM

I dunno. Scott does look dumb, ugly and mean, but he has a great voice. And I agree with liv that Anthony with the new hair and no glasses is much more appealing. I don't know who Scott's fanbase is but sadly I suspect he'll outlive Anwar and Vonzell. At this point Vonzell is honestly my favorite, but I don't think she'll win.

wei yau

03-31-2005, 04:07 PM

I had honestly thought it would be Anwar. I was not expecting to see three girls get booted in a row.

I'm sad to see Jessica go, I liked her more than I like Carrie.

But, my absolute favorite part of the show was the Ford commercial. I love puppets! I love big puppets even more!

TomJoe

03-31-2005, 11:59 PM

Final will be Carrie vs. Bo.

livius drusus

04-01-2005, 12:02 AM

I'd love to think so, but I fear Constantine's smarm will win out over Bo's substance.

livius drusus

04-01-2005, 12:48 PM

Guess who has a rap sheet for domestic abuse (http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0331051_american_idol_scott_1.html)?

AspenMama

04-01-2005, 02:01 PM

Guess who has a rap sheet for domestic abuse (http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0331051_american_idol_scott_1.html)?
Now I really dislike him. Why isn't he gone???? That last performance really sucked. I missed most of Tuesday night but I'm sad about Jessica leaving. Does anyone else think that only thin girls will ever be voted in while the chubby guys can get away with a bit of weight?

TomJoe

04-01-2005, 02:26 PM

Guess who has a rap sheet for domestic abuse (http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0331051_american_idol_scott_1.html)?

In three years, he still looks the same, with that damn chintzy ... uhhh ... "beard".

LadyShea

04-01-2005, 05:01 PM

Guess who has a rap sheet for domestic abuse (http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0331051_american_idol_scott_1.html)?

I knew it! The guy has given me the creeps from day one.

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 01:12 AM

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 01:15 AM

Constantine remains a giant manwhore from hell and I hate him, but damn, he sang the living shit out of My Funny Valentine.

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 01:39 AM

Anthony totally reeked and Nikko sucked too, although not as much as Anthony.

testuser

04-06-2005, 02:04 AM

First of all, I love musicals. I know pretty much all of them in more or less depth, so I knew I was going to dig this episode. Seeing Scott totally screw the pooch with a great classic musical song like The Impossible Dream just makes me deeply happy.
Man I wish I had cable. I didn't get to see any bestiality.

Ensign Steve

04-06-2005, 02:10 AM

:welcome2: to the FF, testuser! :P

viscousmemories

04-06-2005, 02:18 AM

:laugh:

God I hate when that happens.

Oh, and :welcome: to the FF, testuser!

Ensign Steve

04-06-2005, 02:22 AM

By the post count, I'm guessing it doesn't happen often.

LadyShea

04-06-2005, 02:22 AM

First of all, I love musicals. I know pretty much all of them in more or less depth, so I knew I was going to dig this episode. Seeing Scott totally screw the pooch with a great classic musical song like The Impossible Dream just makes me deeply happy.

Oh it's musicals? I know many songs from musicals.

Damn the West Coast sucks for American Idol viewing...I never get to see it live.

LadyShea

04-06-2005, 04:23 AM

Okay. So far:

Scott: Um, was it me or did he totally lose the final note?

Constantine: Good vocals, but he laid the sleazy fake sex on so thick I thought he might start licking the microphone

Carrie: I thought it was beautiful, and as Simon said, old fashioned. Reminded me of one of those great singers from the 40's.

Vonzel: sang good, but I hate that song and I can't stand Barbara Streisand.

Anthony did okay I thought, Nikko was okay (but still an annoying costume).

I really liked Bo and Nadia.

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 02:00 PM

Nadia was definitely my favorite performer last night. She looked gorgeous and that song is one of my all-time favorite musical arias. Unlike some of the other choices, it never gets sung outside of the Oliver! context, so it was a real pleasure to hear and to hear it sung so well.

wei yau

04-06-2005, 02:25 PM

Constantine: Good vocals, but he laid the sleazy fake sex on so thick I thought he might start licking the microphone

Lick it? I was afraid he'd start deep-throating it.

God, how I hate him. It's like I want to keep punching him in his stupid fat stupid face, but am afraid to because I don't know when I'll stop.

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 02:40 PM

I feel you, my brother. I really, really do.

wei yau

04-06-2005, 02:59 PM

I hate Constantine with the white hot fury of a thousand burning nuns.

As for the rest of last night's performances...

Scott was plain horrid. I wonder if all of the recent hullabaloo over his arrest record distracted him. I thought he lacked focus and control and saw no evidence of passion.

Constantine, I can say no more.

Carrie, at least technically proficient, if a bit dull

Vonzell, my favorite performance last night.

Anwar, he's improved over his last few performances, but it might be too late.

Bo, I'm not familiar with the song, though I am surprised he didn't pick more of a "rock" song from a musical like Hair.

Nadia, echoing livius' sentiments about the performance. One of my favorite musicals.

oh, and apparently I've forgotten Anthony. I don't think I'm alone.

TomJoe

04-06-2005, 03:24 PM

No one sang anything from Jesus Christ Superstar or Fiddler on the Roof! Damn them all.

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 03:48 PM

I know, really. Bo would have kicked ass singing any of Judas' songs from JCS, and "Hair" (from Hair, just in case you didn't know that) would have been like an anthem for him. I can't believe he didn't even seek advice from someone in the know.

LadyShea

04-06-2005, 04:12 PM

Who picks the themes? Simon said something like "I am going to tell <someone> never to pick showtunes again".

wei yau

04-06-2005, 04:28 PM

Who picks the themes? Simon said something like "I am going to tell <someone> never to pick showtunes again".

Well, I'm pretty sure the off-camera producers pick the themes. Simon make a stupid joke about Ryan Seacrest picking the showtunes theme. I suppose it's funny if you're in on whatever inside joke they have together.

I suspect it was a lame attempt at a "Ryan is gay" joke.

viscousmemories

04-06-2005, 04:42 PM

I'll be astounded if Scott makes it through tonight because of the domestic violence rap.

On performance alone I would personally say without question Anthony was worst.

AspenMama

04-06-2005, 06:27 PM

Bummer. I missed most of last night's show.

I don't feel that same repulsion for Constantine that most of you seem to so far. As far as fake-- Nadia fills that category. Her moves don't seem natural. Her voice is good enough though and she obviously takes care of her figure. Rather, Scott and as always, Nikko repulse me. I'm liking Vonzell more every week. Carrie is good but just not my favorite musical style. I think I'll head over to the American Idol website and see what I find...

wei yau

04-06-2005, 06:35 PM

Oh how I envy AspenMama's resistance to Constantine hatred. But, alas I am not immune and have to find some way of making peace with the increasingly evident fact that he will make it very far into the finals.

I realize that my prejudice against Nikko is largely related to my indifference towards R&B-style music. That's not to say I dislike R&B, but the newer crop heavily influenced by the likes of Usher just doesn't do anything for me.

livius drusus

04-06-2005, 07:07 PM

I'm with you on that, eldar. Singers who prefer note doodling to harmony generally annoy me, which is one of the reasons the early rounds were so damn annoying sometimes. Endlessly warbling rondlelets of Whitney Houston are very close to my idea of hell.

I agree with Aspen that Nadia is a bit of a put-on job too, and Nikko most defitely is. I just think Nadia did the best last night and really did come off as genuine.

wei yau

04-06-2005, 07:14 PM

Upon further reflection, I also agree that Nadia is a bit phony. Mostly style over substance, though she seemed to have stepped out of that box a bit last night.

As for Nikko's warbling, is that what is meant by melisma? I've seen that word used, though not entirely sure of its definition.

And as bad as Whitney Houston was, I believe that Mariah Carey took it to the n'th degree.

Waluigi

04-06-2005, 07:40 PM

Anthony is just plain awful. He's no Clay Aiken, at least that guy can sing. Constantine did good, even though I'm not necessarily a fan. Bo did good, not his best performance, though. I was out of the room for Carrie, which is too bad because I like the song she sang and I would have liked to hear her take a shot at it.

Scott, Anthony, Anwar, and Nikko I can do without. They're consistently bad, IMO.

One thing I am not looking forward to is Fantasia singing tonight. I hate Fantasia, I still can't believe she won.

AspenMama

04-06-2005, 10:27 PM

One thing I am not looking forward to is Fantasia singing tonight. I hate Fantasia, I still can't believe she won.

Really? I got a kick out of her unique personality and voice. She just did her own thing. She did a unique take on Summertime (from Porgy and Bess). In fact, I predicted early on she'd win. I think that kind of off beat and unique and fun personality is really missing this time around. I can't point my finger at any one of the finalists and say they have that same quality.

I did like Diana Degarmo (sp?) the runner up too.

viscousmemories

04-06-2005, 10:47 PM

I think Carrie is probably the best singer, but I'm not sure if she'll win.

I think Nadia is beautiful and has a bright, friendly smile. But when she sings, she looks sneering and mean. IMO she has the second best voice, though.

AspenMama

04-06-2005, 11:28 PM

I think Nadia is beautiful and has a bright, friendly smile. But when she sings, she looks sneering and mean.
Yeah-- thing is, I think she's trying to be smoldering and sexy.... :eek:

viscousmemories

04-06-2005, 11:40 PM

Yeah-- thing is, I think she's trying to be smoldering and sexy.... :eek:
I can totally see that! But no, it doesn't work.

livius drusus

04-07-2005, 02:16 AM

America has spoken. "I'm on crack," says the nation.

viscousmemories

04-07-2005, 02:18 AM

It's unbelievable. Big props to Anthony for admitting that he should've been there, though. And if there's a god it'll be Scott going home tonight. Otherwise Nikko I could handle, but Vonzell does not deserve to go.

viscousmemories

04-07-2005, 02:23 AM

You decide, America. Who is going home, and who is going on a killing spree?

viscousmemories

04-07-2005, 02:30 AM

oh. my. god.

Well that just ain't right. Scott didn't even shake Nikko's hand. What an asshole.

livius drusus

04-07-2005, 02:30 AM

I'm living in the bizarro universe. Pretty soon Superman is going to rescue a kitten stuck in a tree and tear him limb from limb.

Waluigi

04-07-2005, 01:23 PM

Nikko was pretty bad on Tuesday. Not as bad as Anthony, I guess he just has more supporters (he certainly doesn't have the talent).

My prediction: Anthony is voted off next, followed by Anwar. You heard it here first. :)

AspenMama

04-07-2005, 02:48 PM

Well I did miss most of Tuesday's night performance. But I caught Vonzell and she so did not deserve to be in the bottom three any more than Jessica did. Nikko and Scott on the other hand did deserve it. While I wish Scott were gone, I'm not sorry to see Nikko go. The boy had a decent voice but his style was eminately irritating-- crotch grabbing, baggy pants, that hat-- bleh-- :tiphat2:

Fantasia was a young Tina Turner reincarnated. Say what you will-- I like her style and energy. :popcorn:

AspenMama

04-07-2005, 02:52 PM

All right-- I'm going to predict Carrie Underwood as the next American Idol. Any bets? :cards: :D Name the stakes. (Not money!)

Waluigi

04-07-2005, 04:57 PM

wei yau

04-07-2005, 04:59 PM

Not gonna miss Nikko. His style irritated me.

But, I did wish it was Scott "Slingblade" Savol (stole that nickname from TWOP).

Of course, there were others far more deserving. I'm looking at you, Anthony.

I also realized that I wouldn't hate Constantine so much, if he wasn't clearly better than some of the others. I mean, if he truly sucked on all fronts, it'd be easier. But, his evident talent, makes me hate him even more.

AspenMama

04-07-2005, 05:11 PM

I'll guess Bo is the next Idol. We're due for a male, and the man can sing. He's different from the rest of them, including Constantine.

I don't have any money to bet, but I'll put "AspenMama is my hero and I bow to her (?) superior intellect" in my signature for a month if you're right. :)

Sounds good--- :D

And if Bo wins I'll write a poem extoling your virtues. :D (You'll have to provide me with some or I'll make them up. :wink:)

Anyone else want in?

Hmmm due for a male, eh? A caucasian male as well I suppose.

viscousmemories

04-07-2005, 08:15 PM

At this juncture my money is on America choosing Carrie or Constantine.

Carrie deserves it, but I'd pick most of them over Constantine. I'm not America, though.

AspenMama

04-07-2005, 08:52 PM

Waffler. :P

livius drusus

04-07-2005, 09:24 PM

I hate to say it, but I'm going to have to go all in on Smarmantine. I hate him so, and yet, I feel doomed to see him win. :deepsigh:

AspenMama

04-08-2005, 03:58 AM

I hate to say it, but I'm going to have to go all in on Smarmantine. I hate him so, and yet, I feel doomed to see him win. :deepsigh:
And what would you like if you win this little bet, dare I ask?

viscousmemories

04-13-2005, 01:57 AM

I have to say it: Constantine was the best tonight - far and away.

I don't know who's going home. Anwar or Vonzell, probably. Not because they particularly deserve it, but because I know America.

livius drusus

04-13-2005, 02:20 AM

Much to my devastated chagrin I have to agree with vm that Constantine was the best this week.

And what would you like if you win this little bet, dare I ask?

I feel bad benefiting from his evil dominance.

Waluigi

04-13-2005, 02:05 PM

Constantine was fantastic. Amazing. That is a very difficult song to belt out, and he did Freddie Mercury proud.

Nadia wasn't all that good, and I wouldn't be surprised if she goes home. Scott was pretty bad, too, but he usually is.

Can I just say I'm getting a little tired of Ryan Seacrest?

livius drusus

04-13-2005, 02:11 PM

Yes you most certainly can. He's a organgrinder's monkey, only stupider.

AspenMama

04-13-2005, 02:30 PM

My bottom three last night: Nadia, Scott and Anwar. Nadia and Anwar were boring. I actually got up and did the dishes while he did his thing. Scott-- just cause I don't like him.

Vonzell did well and looked good. Bo did not do the song justice. Anthony did well actually surprising me as he's not a particular favorite. Carrie rocked-- I don't know why they gave her a hard time. Perhaps Simon just preferred the innocent look. I don't even want to know what's inside that man's head. Constantine sang the shit out of that song and did not ruin an all time classic. He's going to give Carrie a run for the money. I think I'm missing someone...

wei yau

04-13-2005, 02:32 PM

The pain is almost unbearable, but even I have to admit that Constantine did pretty damn well last night, perhaps the best performance of the night.

Of course, this only serves to increase my hatred for this guy.

I'm betting that Nadia is out. She's spent enough time at the bottom and was the only one who did an unknown song.

viscousmemories

04-13-2005, 03:04 PM

Carrie rocked-- I don't know why they gave her a hard time. Perhaps Simon just preferred the innocent look. I don't even want to know what's inside that man's head.
I dunno. Simon and I both loved Carrie when she belted the hell out of that Heart song a week or two ago, and she wasn't a pouting innocent then. I think he didn't like her last night for the same reason I didn't: she kinda sucked.

I vote Nadia for most degraded. She used to be one of my favorites but it seems like she's been getting more dramatic and diva-like every week, while everyone else is getting more comfortable and fun. Similarly, Anwar has become exactly what Simon predicted: consistent to the point of boring. I won't be sad to see either of them go tonight.

Waluigi

04-14-2005, 03:09 AM

I can't believe Bo was in the bottom three! Glad to see he didn't go home, though.

I'd really like to see Scott go home next.

viscousmemories

04-14-2005, 03:19 AM

AspenMama

04-14-2005, 02:56 PM

I can't believe it either. I'm not really surprised to see Nadia go, but Scott's staying power is amazing. I'll be hugely disappointed in America if he outlasts any of the others (except maybe Anthony).
Yuppers.

Ryan kept saying it was some sort of shocker who was going home. Not even.

That fat joke was bad. I bet there will be some fall out. What were the producers thinking with that one??

wei yau

04-14-2005, 05:02 PM

Sadly, I was correct in betting that Nadia will go. I'll miss her and still believe that she's better than some of the remaining contestants.

So, what did you all think of Bo's attitude during Seacrest's grilling? It's a tough question to answer. I mean, you can say "I'm not shocked about being at the bottom, it's anyone's game"...but that sound so "Miss America Beauty Paegant fake". On the other hand, it kinda irked me to hear that he doesn't take this contest seriously. But, then again, how seriously should I be taking his lack of seriousness?

Also, I wasn't sure if wasn't a case of "sour grapes".

I still like him and all, but now I'm starting to wonder about his attitude.

Speaking of attitudes, something really strange happened last night. I almost, sorta, kinda, in a roundabout way...didn't hate Constantine so much last night. There was something about him that made me think he's a nice guy who just has a really smarmy poseur act on stage.

wei yau

04-14-2005, 05:05 PM

That fat joke was bad. I bet there will be some fall out. What were the producers thinking with that one??

I tend to develop cerebral hemorrhages whenever Ryan is speaking, so I must have missed this joke.

Being a "fat joke" myself, I always love a good fat joke.

What was it?

viscousmemories

04-14-2005, 05:06 PM

Actually I thought the fat joke was pretty bad too, but when liv told me that Kirstie Alley is starring in a sitcom called Fat Actress it occurred to me that she would probably wholeheartedly endorse it.

It was something along the lines of: (something) was stretched like a pair of Kirstie Alley's speedos.

livius drusus

04-14-2005, 05:17 PM

So, what did you all think of Bo's attitude during Seacrest's grilling? It's a tough question to answer. I mean, you can say "I'm not shocked about being at the bottom, it's anyone's game"...but that sound so "Miss America Beauty Paegant fake". On the other hand, it kinda irked me to hear that he doesn't take this contest seriously. But, then again, how seriously should I be taking his lack of seriousness?

I thought it was supercool and made me want to vote for him even more. Of course, the notion that he'll go back to playing weddings and bar mitzvahs if he gets kicked is laughable. A&R people are going to be sending him long stemmed roses and even longer stemmed hookers the minute he's free.

Speaking of attitudes, something really strange happened last night. I almost, sorta, kinda, in a roundabout way...didn't hate Constantine so much last night. There was something about him that made me think he's a nice guy who just has a really smarmy poseur act on stage.

You worry me, eldar. You worry me a lot. Did you see the way he was lowering his head in hopeful humility while Seacrest was giving him the standard you're safe diddle? Even worse than that Miss USA lying facade from hell was his response to the tongue question when he was all "what did y'all think of it" to his cadre of tasteless girly fans.

God I hate that guy. :bull:

wei yau

04-14-2005, 05:24 PM

You worry me, eldar. You worry me a lot. Did you see the way he was lowering his head in hopeful humility while Seacrest was giving him the standard you're safe diddle? Even worse than that Miss USA lying facade from hell was his response to the tongue question when he was all "what did y'all think of it" to his cadre of tasteless girly fans.

God I hate that guy. :bull:

Believe me, I'm equally worried. Perhaps the 14-year old girl inside of me is starting to be more assertive? I should eat more and suffocate her with fat.

Perhaps I'm so sure that he's gonna win, I need to find something positive about him.

TomJoe

04-14-2005, 09:00 PM

TomJoe

04-14-2005, 09:01 PM

Perhaps I'm so sure that he's gonna win, I need to find something positive about him.

No way. Carrie has it.

livius drusus

04-14-2005, 09:30 PM

A far cry from Scott's petulant attitude.

Amen. What the hell crawled up his rank ass and died a horrible, lonely death? He looks at Simon like he wants to kill him every single time. He's totally incapable of taking criticism, and given his a) ugliness, and b) bad attitude, he's in the wrong industry for his precious princess games.

viscousmemories

04-14-2005, 09:33 PM

But honestly ... what can he do? All he can do is try his best. The rest is totally out of his hands. I think he was just being realistic. I found him to be honest. A far cry from Scott's petulant attitude.

I hope Scott gets the axe next.
I agree. Having seen two of the three previous seasons, I would've said his chances of making it to the top 10 as a rock-n-roller were about nil. I'm sure he is stunned and amused to be there, and I'm not at all surprised that he views losing with a grain of salt.

koan

04-16-2005, 06:07 AM

I am predicting Constantine as the winner at this point but there seem to be shocking twists and turns in this show. It seems a lot like Survivor in that the contestants come up with a game plan to win. Nadia confirmed this with her little self analysis of why she chose the songs she did and trying to develop a fan base. Constantine is an actor so he repels the sensibilities of thinking folk, such as yourselves, but I see a well developed character that is written for success. The interesting thing is to see what they sing when they get their own albums and not a themed playlist to select from.

I'm dying inside because I missed his performance of Bohemian Rhapsody. I LOVE THAT SONG!!! Did he do the Scaramouche,scaramouche will you do the fandango bit?

livius drusus

04-16-2005, 01:35 PM

As I recall, he stuck to the high drama parts, koan. I don't blame him either. I think everyone sounds like an idiot trying to do the Galileo Figaro bit.

AspenMama

04-16-2005, 06:07 PM

Constantine is an actor so he repels the sensibilities of thinking folk, such as yourselves, but I see a well developed character that is written for success.

Eh, so I'm not included in the "thinking folk"? :P They're all actors. Some just seem more natural than others.

wei yau

04-20-2005, 03:24 PM

Last night's Bottom Three (IMO):

- Scott
- Carrie
- Anwar

Scott was flat. flat. flat.

Anwar is becoming so forgettable. I thought he did fine, but compared to other performances, it was kinda non-descript.

But, it's not very likely that Carrie will ever be in the bottom, no matter how hideous she looks.

So, the Bottom Three (as per AI logic):

- Scott
- Anwar
- Anthony(?)

I thought Bo's performance was the best of the nightthough it was enhanced by being in the "pimped spot" last night. My wife loves that song and thought he did a great job.

Constantine is consistent, if nothing else.

Vonzell is just so damned cute and a whole lotta fun to watch. I thought she was a bit overwhelmed by the band and the backup singers, but there's no denying her energy.

And as for Anthony, he's at the bottom simply because when compared to the three above, he is found wanting.

koan

04-20-2005, 03:48 PM

I'm so sick of Paula LOVING everyone. Grab an opinion, honey...and stop interrupting Simon.

I thought Anthony was the worst performance. Carrie sang incredibly well but I hated the song...and her dress. Scott was annoyingly not bad. Always a little flat though. Constantine calling for everyone to stand up was amusing as the song was not as energetic as he implied. When he winked I almost hurled. Bo was the star of the night.

LadyShea

04-20-2005, 03:58 PM

Constantine had on too much eyeliner and was amping up the smarm factor even more...which I didn't think was possible.

Bo was my fave performance last night.

viscousmemories

04-20-2005, 04:19 PM

My faves last night (in order):

1. Bo
2. Vonzell
3. Constantine

I'm bored with Anwar. I like Carrie a lot and think she's the best singer, but she has bored me the last two weeks. I like Anthony well enough and he's a good singer, but he doesn't excite me. I can't get past that violent offender look Scott has. (And I thought that before I found out about his assault conviction.)

livius drusus

04-20-2005, 04:22 PM

Another big vote for Bo over here. I love him anyway, but last night he was very seriously on, from five o'clock shadow to impeccable performance. He's the vraie chose, as they say in Cajun land.

I don't really get at this point why the judges still love Carrie so much. MacArthur Park is literally the single worst pop song ever written. It's synonymous with suck, a brand name of suck in the same way Kleenex is another word for tissue, and yet, not one comment about song choice? They booted Nadia on out there for picking an obscure but pretty enough song and they kiss Carrie's ass for singing a song known world wide as an utter piece of shit? I don't get it.

I like the girl. She's sweet, beautiful and has a drop dead gorgeous voice, but in the end, I have to say I think she's a rube. Her lack of sophistication shows in everything she does from song choice to warddrobe. I know she'll be in the top 3, but I really don't think she's got what it takes to win.

Waluigi

04-20-2005, 04:35 PM

Scott doesn't really deserve to be in the competition at this point. He's just not as talented as Constantine, Carrie, and Bo. Anthony should also be booted, but I'd really like to see Scott go first.

Actually, the person I'd like to see voted off is Paula. I was making fun of her drunken antics last night, saying she had Jack Daniels in that Coke cup. My wife thinks it's pain killers that are making her loopy.

Whatever the case, the woman can't spot talent. She just falls over every contestant, even if they really do suck.

viscousmemories

04-20-2005, 05:12 PM

Whatever the case, the woman can't spot talent. She just falls over every contestant, even if they really do suck.
She probably just figures if she and Randy can be rich and famous, anyone can.

LadyShea

04-20-2005, 06:08 PM

She's sweet, beautiful and has a drop dead gorgeous voice, but in the end, I have to say I think she's a rube

Yep agreed. Unfortunately, that hair alone just shouts "redneck".

viscousmemories

04-20-2005, 06:19 PM

Yep agreed. Unfortunately, that hair alone just shouts "redneck".
Listen to the Alabama jungle chick callin' someone a redneck. :giggles:

Hey! You get to actually see the show in "real time" now. :)

LadyShea

04-20-2005, 07:01 PM

Yep agreed. Unfortunately, that hair alone just shouts "redneck".
Listen to the Alabama jungle chick callin' someone a redneck. :giggles:

Of course, I am in their environment now and have simply learned to recognize them. Sorta scientific-like.

Hey! You get to actually see the show in "real time" now. :)

I know I couldn't believe it. I was like "American Idol is on at 7 here", so we stayed at Mom's house to watch it. We are sitting the rugrat tonight so get to see who gets kicked off tonight too.

viscousmemories

04-20-2005, 07:03 PM

It's on at 7 there? Huh. I would've sworn you'd be in Eastern time now.

LadyShea

04-20-2005, 07:04 PM

It's on at 7 there? Huh. I would've sworn you'd be in Eastern time now.

Nope, Central.

There's time zone maps available on the web I am sure, you ever heard of Google? ;)

viscousmemories

04-20-2005, 07:13 PM

Nope, Central.

There's time zone maps available on the web I am sure, you ever heard of Google? ;)
Are there a lot of smart-asses in Alabama? :glare:

LadyShea

04-20-2005, 08:12 PM

Are there a lot of smart-asses in Alabama? :glare:

I will admit it, they're downright weird here...but don't seem to be smartasses.

Quite frankly, I feel more like me than I have in a long time, and the real me is a smartass. Yes, yes, off topic.

Scott is a creep, but I still think Anthony is the next to go.

viscousmemories

04-20-2005, 08:18 PM

I will admit it, they're downright weird here...but don't seem to be smartasses.
Well you'll fit right in, then...

Not!

Quite frankly, I feel more like me than I have in a long time, and the real me is a smartass. Yes, yes, off topic.
Why haven't I ever met the fake you?

Scott is a creep, but I still think Anthony is the next to go.
I'm afraid you're right. Scott looks mean and dangerous, Anthony looks cute and friendly. If I know American teenage girls, Anthony is next to go. :D

wei yau

04-20-2005, 08:29 PM

I like the girl. She's sweet, beautiful and has a drop dead gorgeous voice, but in the end, I have to say I think she's a rube. Her lack of sophistication shows in everything she does from song choice to warddrobe.

I never really saw it until last night. During her post-song interview with Seacrest, when they were discussing just what is that song about anyway...I cringed because I honestly expected her to start guffawing:

"Hyuck! Hyuck! Know-whut-I-mean-Earl?"

livius drusus

04-20-2005, 09:13 PM

I got a hint of it during the show tunes episode. The song she picked and the outfit she wore just screamed country girl in the big city. It works fine for her when she's doing her country stuff and looking natural, but as soon as she fancies it up a little you've got problems because it looks so hamfisted and fake.

Waluigi

04-21-2005, 01:38 PM

Woo hoo! So long, Anwar! I'm still upset Scott isn't gone yet. Maybe next week.

livius drusus

04-21-2005, 02:32 PM

koan

04-21-2005, 04:10 PM

I get this icky feeling that Anthony will get the axe before Scott. I'm not sure why. Possibly just because Anthony doesn't really bother me (I find him a non-entity) while Scott's bad attitude, inflated ego and general hideousness drives me nuts.

Now, what the hell is with those vile group songs they make them sing on Wednesday? They suck hairy goat balls. I guess it's just filler material.

I was relieved that the correct three were in the bottom group. I think you're right about Anthony. Though I expected him to go last night.

To make the group songs worse, they write them with these sappy themes of what it must feel like to be on the Idol stage living their hopes and dreams. Excruciatingly painful! Why don't they write one about being scared shitless? That's probably more accurate, anyway.