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The Lone Ranger
01-25-2005, 06:06 AM
I apologize for the convoluted nature of this post. Hopefully, it’ll make sense as it unfolds.


I got my master’s degree from a pretty well-thought-of university back in North Carolina. During that time, I discovered that I really enjoy teaching. I also discovered that I’m not quite as enthusiastic about doing research.

As it happened, the husband of a fellow grad student at the time was teaching as an adjunct at a small, private women’s college across town. When he was getting ready to leave, they asked him if he could suggest a replacement, and he gave them my name. So, I went over for an interview, they liked me for some reason, and they hired me as an adjunct professor.

I really enjoyed teaching there. It’s a small school, so I had small classes and could deal with the students as individuals. I could also do neat things like take them on field trips. I’d even get invited to participate in student activities on occasion. For example, a bunch of students decided they would like to spend the day exploring the North Carolina Zoo, and invited me along to act as a guide of sorts.

I always got good evaluations because – as many of the students wrote in said evaluations – it was very clear that I really enjoyed teaching. Without a doctorate, though, I couldn’t be hired on a permanent basis. Some of the faculty/staff members there told me on more than one occasion that if only I had a doctorate, they’d love to hire me on a full-time, tenure-track basis.

Well, I’m not completely unteachable, and besides, I was getting tired of the poverty wages and lack of benefits that are an adjunct’s lot in life, not to mention the uncertainty of knowing whether or not I would even be employed during the coming semester. So, I eventually went back to grad school to get a doctorate.


One thing that I’ve learned in grad school is that I’m very sick of the amazingly common attitude in certain academic circles that teaching is a waste of time and that no person with any “real talent” should aspire to do so. So, I’ve become more and more convinced that what I really want is to wind up at some nice small private college like the one where I’d taught as an adjunct. There I could teach – and if I feel like doing some research on the side that’s fine, but publishing “X” number of papers per year isn’t a necessity for keeping my job.


Well, I should be finishing up and getting my doctorate in May or thereabouts, if all goes well.

By a curious coincidence, I got 2 e-mails in the past 3 days to inform me that a faculty member at the college where I taught is planning to leave, and that they’ll have a position open, starting this August. The first e-mail was from my master’s advisor. He learned about the opening because he knows several of the faculty members at this school. One of them called him and asked if he knew anyone who might be suitable for the position. He mentioned my name, and the response – so he says – was “Michael might want the position? He’d be perfect!” So, he (my former advisor) wrote to tell me that I should definitely apply. A couple of days later, I got an e-mail from a former student there, and she emphasized that, in her opinion, I’d be perfect for the position, and that I should apply.


So, I called a friend of mine at this school and discussed the situation with her. She said, “you’d be a perfect choice – in fact you’re exactly what the department needs right now.” It seems that the guy who was department chair when I was there has pretty-much retired from teaching, and the remaining department members seem to be far more interested in their own research than in teaching. So, my friend insists that I’m just what they need – someone whose primary interest is in the students, not in their own research.

All well and good, but this is a women’s school, remember? My friend was very blunt: she said that though I’m exactly what they need, she thinks it’s unlikely that they’ll actually hire me. Why? Because the department chair seems to be determined that since this is a women’s college after all, they should hire only female professors if that’s at all possible.

Politics, oy!


Anyway, I figure it can’t possibly hurt to apply. I have friends there who seem to remember me fondly for some reason, and who’ve said that they’ll support me. My master’s advisor has told me that not only will he support my application, but if I am employed there, he’ll make his school’s world-class vertebrate collections available for my use as teaching tools – and that he most-definitely will not be making that offer to any other candidate for the position. (And he said that he intends to tell them exactly that in his recommendation.)


This seems like one of those “Almost Too Good to be True,” “Once In a Lifetime” opportunities, so it’d be foolish of me not to at least give it a shot. Even Sarah has told me that she really wants me to apply. (She hinted that maybe life in North Carolina wouldn’t be such a distressing thought after all.)

Anyway, I’m not getting my hopes up too high. From what my “inside sources” tell me, I have two strikes against me simply because I happen to possess a “Y” chromosome. It would be a wonderful thing if it did work out, though!


<Crossing my fingers . . . now!>


Cheers,

Michael

seebs
01-25-2005, 07:36 AM
Good luck.

And personally, I think that's a stupid policy. You should point them at the research done on how you get worse employees for your money if you discriminate based on anything other than actual job performance.

Petra
01-25-2005, 09:01 AM
Michael, I hope you get this job! From what I know of you, I also think this is perfect for you - and for them. And so far it looks like you're in. :cool:

Best of luck, Michael. My fingers are crossed for you, too. :yup: :)

Petra
01-25-2005, 09:02 AM
And personally, I think that's a stupid policy. You should point them at the research done on how you get worse employees for your money if you discriminate based on anything other than actual job performance.

Agreed!

wildernesse
01-25-2005, 01:57 PM
That sounds like a wonderful opportunity for you! Best of luck!

livius drusus
01-25-2005, 02:53 PM
I'm glad to hear that Sarah seems amenable to the move. It really does sound like the ideal position for you, Michael. I went to a small liberal arts college myself (although not single-sex) and the bond you develop with the teachers is something special.

I honestly can't imagine they would turn you down, Y chromosome and all.

Ronin
01-25-2005, 04:09 PM
I have a couple of questions:

Do they have any other males in teaching/admin positions at all at this school?

Do they have a specific policy that prohibits males from being instructors?



In any event, I hope that the positive references work out better for you than that pesky Y thing.

:wave:

beyelzu
01-25-2005, 04:15 PM
michael,

obviously you are making the right decision to apply.


good luck.


what is the legality of sexual discrimination at a signle sex school?

wei yau
01-25-2005, 06:04 PM
I think you should get the job. All of my favorite teachers have been those who clearly loved to teach.

Were things different in my life, I would also pursue teaching.

Best of luck to you. I hope you get the job, I love win-win situations. Both you and your students would benefit tremendously from this opportunity.

Shake
01-25-2005, 06:11 PM
what is the legality of sexual discrimination at a signle sex school?
This is a good question and one you should definitely look into, Michael. With or without such a policy, you might have a case for discrimination if you were turned down. Not that you'd necessarily want to pursue it.

Anyway, I'd say go for it! A teacher who truly enjoys what they're doing is the best kind! ... and something we need more of, IMHO.

JoeP
01-25-2005, 07:52 PM
Well, however it goes, it sounds like a good moment to be in!

The Lone Ranger
01-25-2005, 09:37 PM
The degree of support I've received is terribly gratifying, and downright humbling!

Both my master's advisor and my undergraduate advisor (I got my B.S. from a school that's only 30 miles from the one at which I got my M.S.) have said in no uncertain terms that they'd love to have me come back to the area, that they think I'd be an excellent choice for the position, that they'll wholeheartedly endorse me to the school in question -- and that they'll make their respective schools' resources available for my use should I take the position.

Two former faculty members from the school in question have offered their unconditional support and approval, and I'm told that a third probably will too, as soon as I can get in touch with him. Even a former student has gone so far as to contact me in order to offer her support.

I "casually" mentioned that I was considering applying for the position yesterday to the professor here at WSU for whom I teach labs, and his immediate response was, "Well, what are you waiting for? Get me some names and addresses, because I intend to write you a glowing recommendation!"


Excuse me while I have a bit of a sniffle here. Okay, I'm better now. It's all so ... so ... oh, I don't really know what to call it!


Of course, my family are quite pleased at the possibility that I might come back to North Carolina.


As for Sarah and me, we'll just have to see how things work out. She really wants me to apply for the position, since she knows that this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. She will be graduating at about the same time I do, and she said that she has been looking at possible employment opportunities in N.C.; she's not happy about the prospect of leaving the Pacific Northwest, but she's considering it.

Apparently, she had a long talk with her mother about this general subject a few weeks ago, and her mother bluntly told her that while, in an ideal world, she'd like to have her daughter living close by, she thinks Sarah would be unwise to throw away a promising relationship because it might not be possible for the both of us to find employment in Washington State. (Have I mentioned that I really like Sarah's parents?)



As far as the school goes, there were 2 male faculty members in the department when I was there (3 if you count me), and both of them were veterans going back more than 25 years. One of them has since retired, and the other probably won't be around all that much longer. Since the new department chair took over, all new hires in the department have been female, and according to my "inside sources," this isn't at all coincidental. Reportedly, her philosophy is that only female instructors can be "positive role models" for female students, and so she's dead-set against hiring male instructors if she can help it.


I have to admit that I'm pretty fuzzy on the legality of refusing to hire one sex or the other at private institutions. Private schools can get away with quite a lot that public institutions can't, but the government will sometimes threaten to withdraw all funding to schools that practice "unpopular" forms of discrimination.

In the past few years, some female students have sued for the right to attend all-male private schools, and I've heard of at least one case in which a male student sued for the right to attend an all-female school. But hiring practices may be another kettle of fish. My guess is that it would be awfully difficult to prove discrimination (much less have a decision enforced), even if it's universally understood that male candidates aren't given the same consideration that equally-qualified female candidates are.

And, of course, if I were in a position to make a fuss about it, even if I should somehow win, that might create a rather poisonous atmosphere anyway.


Oh well. I've got my fingers crossed; that's about all I can do.

Cheers,

Michael

Roland98
01-25-2005, 10:32 PM
Best of luck on the position. Personally, I think it's a bad idea to only have women on the faculty. True, there should be positive female role models (I myself worked for 2 women professors as an undergrad, and it was an excellent experience), but they shouldn't deny the girls the chance to have an excellent teacher just because you happen to have a penis. I hope the recommendations made on your behalf knock some sense into them.

One thing that I’ve learned in grad school is that I’m very sick of the amazingly common attitude in certain academic circles that teaching is a waste of time and that no person with any “real talent” should aspire to do so.

I've experienced that as well. Luckily, where I've worked and studied thus far, they've generally put a high value on teaching, and that's one thing that attracted me to my current university as well. Though research still is more important, they do a lot to encourage teaching excellence. Matter of fact, I spent my morning in a workshop to improve my own teaching skills and learn some new tips and tricks, and have more every few weeks this semester.

Good luck! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you as well.

viscousmemories
01-25-2005, 11:46 PM
This is great news, Michael. Especially the part about Sarah considering it.

Have you ever seen the film Some Like it Hot or the TV show Bosom Buddies?

Think about it, that's all I'm saying. :)

The Lone Ranger
01-26-2005, 07:28 AM
But would I look as good in a dress as Jack Lemmon?

viscousmemories
01-26-2005, 08:09 AM
There's not a doubt in my mind.

Ab_Normal
01-26-2005, 05:16 PM
*fingers crossed*

Just remember, when you're wearing a skirt and you need to pick something up off the floor, bend at the knees, not the waist. :D