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freemonkey
04-05-2008, 04:02 PM
Yesterday I got an email from Newsmax. It was an important health notice, brought to me by one of their sponsors. I clicked Junk and deleted it. No problem.

Well........ this morning, there's another notice, this time brought to me by their sponsor American Vision Press. Subject: Evolution's Worst Nightmare-Get Free Creation Book. They are selling "Expelled" the book, along with a whole host of Evolutionism is wrong, wrong, wrong for America books and DVD's, including a DVD of a evolution/creationism debate "FILMED BEFORE AN OVERFLOW CROWD ON NOVEMBER 27, 2007 IN DOTHAN, ALABAMA."

I did a little checking. Newsmax is a right-wing lie disseminator (http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Newsmax).

American Vision Press looks like ignorance mongering (http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/09-28-07.asp) to me. Founder Gary DeMar has written things like: Why it Might Be Okay to Eat Your Neighbor: If Atheists are right, can anything be wrong? and Whoever Controls The Schools Rules the World.

American Vision Press is owned by Dominion Press. I wondered if they meant to call their corp. after dominionism, and, um, yes (http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm). Mr DeMar's name is right there as a leading proponent.

I'm frightened and fascinated by these people all at the same time.

It appears that someone has actually signed me up for these News Max notices. That's why they are sending them, right? Except I didn't. I wonder who did. Or are they illegally spamming me, do you think?

Not many people have the email address it comes to, just some family and friends, I'm gonna ask around and find out who did it.

Caligulette
04-05-2008, 05:30 PM
From the "and, um, yes" link:
Ralph Reed, the executive director of the conservative public policy group the Christian Coalition has criticized Reconstructionism as "an authoritarian ideology that threatens the most basic civil liberties of a free and democratic society."

Ralph Reed is worried about civil liberties? That can't be good.

Qingdai
04-05-2008, 05:48 PM
We can eat our neighbors?

They also have a book called "dog vomit" which is probably indicative of the content of the book.

Plant Woman
04-05-2008, 07:51 PM
We can eat our neighbors?

Ew.

Dingfod
04-05-2008, 09:43 PM
Do you suspect the Christian friend you mentioned in a previous thread?

Qingdai
04-05-2008, 10:47 PM
We can eat our neighbors?

Ew.

Context is everything.
There is some spam that keeps getting stuck in my filter that's titled, "see your high school teachers naked." I'm 40, those teachers are either dead or seriously not the people I want to see naked. :shudder:

Plant Woman
04-06-2008, 12:19 AM
:foocl:

freemonkey
04-06-2008, 12:19 AM
Do you suspect the Christian friend you mentioned in a previous thread?

it crossed my mind and I asked. She said "what's news max?"

Plant Woman
04-06-2008, 12:19 AM
Do you suspect the Christian friend you mentioned in a previous thread?

That was my thought too.

Ari
04-06-2008, 12:36 AM
Why it Might Be Okay to Eat Your Neighbor: and other creationist sex practices.
:fixed:

freemonkey
04-06-2008, 01:21 AM
No one has fessed up to signing me up.

Doctor X
04-06-2008, 12:30 PM
No one has fessed up to signing me up.

Then you have no choice but to kill them all. . . .

--J.D.

freemonkey
04-06-2008, 02:45 PM
It seems I've been subscribed to another newsletter, from Hewlett-Packard this time. The address was easily traceable to an email marketing provider, who claims to be responsible and will stop the emails if I ask.

I wonder who's doing this. I haven't bought anything from any new vendors in ages or anything like that, that I can remember. :thinkup:

Doctor X
04-06-2008, 09:44 PM
Oh I am sure they will take you off the list. . . .

--J.D.

Dingfod
04-08-2008, 02:49 AM
Do you suspect the Christian friend you mentioned in a previous thread?

it crossed my mind and I asked. She said "what's news max?"

No one has fessed up to signing me up.OK, it was me.



Not. I would wish that on my worst enemy.

freemonkey
04-08-2008, 04:41 AM
You would?

Dingfod
04-08-2008, 04:49 AM
No. I'm an idiot.

freemonkey
04-08-2008, 05:36 AM
No you're not. :hug:

Dingfod
04-08-2008, 05:37 AM
Thanks.

Doctor X
04-08-2008, 05:39 AM
Get a room you two!!

--J.D.

Naru
04-08-2008, 01:12 PM
How about my room? :suggest:

D. Scarlatti
04-08-2008, 04:24 PM
Newsmax is a right-wing lie disseminator.

:shock:

yguy
04-08-2008, 06:00 PM
I did a little checking.You certainly did. ;) Newsmax is a right-wing lie disseminator (http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Newsmax).If you would cast aspersions on the credibility of a media outlet, you would do well to cite a source which has some semblance of credibility. Clearly yours does not cut the mustard:

John McCain

On November 29, 2005 NewsMax was the source of a rumor that John McCain himself validated the use of torture. This accusation was then picked up and repeated by Rush Limbaugh.Template:Ref NewsMax specifically claimed:

"Sen. John McCain is leading the charge against so-called “torture” techniques allegedly used by U.S. interrogators, insisting that practices like sleep deprivation and withholding medical attention are not only brutal – they simply don’t work to persuade terrorist suspects to give accurate information."
"Nearly forty years ago, however – when McCain was held captive in a North Vietnamese prison camp – some of the same techniques were used on him. And – as McCain has publicly admitted at least twice – the torture worked!"

The article contradicts itself by demonstrating that torture does not provide intelligence:

[...]

No link is provided, and it's not difficult to see why: (http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/29/100012.shtml)

In his 1999 autobiography, "Faith of My Fathers," McCain describes how he was severely injured when his plane was shot down over Hanoi - and how his North Vietnamese interrogators used his injuries to extract information.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I did not cooperate," he wrote.

Story Continues Below

"I thought they were bluffing and refused to provide any information beyond my name, rank and serial number, and date of birth. They knocked me around a little to force my cooperation."

The punishment finally worked, McCain said. "Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

Recalling how he gave up military information to his interrogators, McCain said: "I regret very much having done so. The information was of no real use to the Vietnamese, but the Code of Conduct for American Prisoners of War orders us to refrain from providing any information beyond our names, rank and serial number."

They also make another clumsy attempt to attribute to Newsmax what they are guilty of themselves when they quote Saint Patrick's claim of Plame's "classified status" as if it contradicted the Newsmax characterization, which was a statement about how widely she was known, whereas the Special Prosecutor's was a statement about her legal status.

Not to mention that Fitzgerald has his own credibility problems.

freemonkey
04-10-2008, 03:34 PM
OK, then.

From Media Matters (http://mediamatters.org/items/200510210004?f=s_search), among other mentions (http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=newsmax) by them

Beer Fights Cancer (http://search.huffingtonpost.com/search/?sp_a=sp100395aa&sp_k=&sp_p=all&sp_f=ISO-8859-1&sp_q=newsmax) and other headlines.

yguy
04-10-2008, 05:47 PM
OK, then.

From Media Matters (http://mediamatters.org/items/200510210004?f=s_search),Since I'm not a "Newsmax insider", I don't have access to the context. among other mentions by them (http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=newsmax)Rather than go into all the minutiae, I'll just point out that MediaMatters was co-founded by none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton. Do you really think she dodged bullets in Bosnia? Or that she really didn't know where the Rose Law Firm billing records were? Or that she was named after Edmund Hillary?

I sure don't; and it is not surprising to me in the least that, among other things, they deliberately distorted Limbaugh's remark about "phony soldiers" to make it look like he was disparaging any soldier who is against the Iraq war.Beer Fights Cancer (http://search.huffingtonpost.com/search/?sp_a=sp100395aa&sp_k=&sp_p=all&sp_f=ISO-8859-1&sp_q=newsmax) and other headlines.Cancer chemopreventive activity of Xanthohumol, a natural product derived from hop. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12481418)

Qingdai
04-10-2008, 06:47 PM
That yguy is defending it as a news source is all the citations I need that it is a right wing lie disseminator.

Uthgar the Brazen
04-10-2008, 06:53 PM
That yguy is defending it as a news source is all the citations I need that it is a right wing lie disseminator.

I think with that defender notions of left and right would disappear in the harsh, unyielding glare of just plain Looney.

Adam
04-10-2008, 08:49 PM
the harsh, unyielding glare of just plain Looney.

There's a custom user title if I ever saw one.

Uthgar the Brazen
04-10-2008, 10:05 PM
:glare:

Wait. :chin:

Nope. :glare:

Adam
04-10-2008, 10:22 PM
:glare:

See? The harsh unyielding glare fits you perfectly!

I was actually thinking it would be a great title for yguy, but if the glare fits...

Uthgar the Brazen
04-10-2008, 10:23 PM
:shakespider: