US Children Still Traumatized One Year After...

[Petra]

...Seeing Partially Exposed Beast on TV.


WASHINGTON, DC—As the nation approaches the one-year anniversary of the Super Bowl XXXVIII tragedy, an FCC study shows that millions of U.S. children were severely traumatized by the exposure to a partially nude female breast during the Feb. 1, 2004 halftime show. (http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4104)

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Above: Jackson irrevocably damages millions of American children.


"No one who lived through that day is likely to forget the horror," said noted child therapist Dr. Eli Wasserbaum. "But it was especially hard on the children."


[....]


"By the time CBS cut to an aerial view of the stadium, the damage was done," said Wasserbaum, who has also worked extensively with orphaned and amputee children in Third World war zones. "I've found that children can be amazingly resilient, but this event was too much for many of them to take. The horrible image of that breast is likely to haunt them for the rest of their lives."

According to the 500-page report filed by the FCC, more than 90 percent of the children who saw the exposed breast said they were "confused and afraid."

"Mommy has dirty chest bumps," said a 5-year-old boy quoted in one of the thousands of case studies compiled by the FCC. "She's like the bad lady on TV. I'm afraid Mommy will take off her shirt and scare everyone. I hate Mommy."

Girls were traumatized as well, often expressing apprehensions about sexual development. According to Wasserbaum, one 8-year-old girl told her parents that she didn't "want to get evil breasts."


[...]


"The FCC imposed the maximum $27,500 penalty on each of the 20 CBS-owned television stations," Wasserbaum said. "But the government offered no recompense to the individuals exposed to the breast. And neither Jackson nor Timberlake has ever specifically apolgized to the children whose lives they ruined, or donated a penny for the adolescents' psychiatric care."

Across America, parental concern over the condition doctors have dubbed Nearly Naked Breast Disorder continues to grow.




:muahaha:

[RevDahlia]

:bow:

You know that some Focus on the Family Values Research Institute Foundation wonk is going to stumble across this article and claim it as gospel, kinda like they did with that "Harry Potter Leads to Satanism" Onion article last year. But that will be great, because all of us will snark and then they will have to issue a retraction. I love when the Focus on the Family Values Research Institute Foundation issues a retraction. Not like anybody pays any attention, but in a small private way it's so lovely when a bunch of know-nothing doofuses admits that they're a bunch of know-nothing doofuses.

[viscousmemories]

I envision a new band...

Mommy Has Dirty Chest Bumps

:chuckle:

[The Lone Ranger]

To paraphrase Donald Kaul, how come we worry that showing two people making love [or a little skin, in this case] will cause children to have sex, but we don't worry that showing people being beaten, stabbed and shot will cause kids to commit murder?

Methinks we have some seriously screwy priorities.

Cheers,

Michael

[Shaguar]

I myself have suffered, God how I have suffered, I have had to watch the clip thousands of times over to erase the terrible event from my memory, it is a type of "reverse" physcology of my own invention and as such is just as valid as half the other theories.

[Beth]

I had issues with what happened for a variety of reasons. I did not want my children seeing that act to begin with. The act was more sexual than seeing the boob. What I do have problems with was the depicted brutality of Justin violating Janet by ripping her bra cup and Janet's depicted shame. I would have seen issues with it whether there had either been another piece of fabric under the cup or just the bare boob. I cannot remember the lyrics now, but I vaguely remember that the timing of the ripping of the bra cup with the lyrics sung implied a sexual brutality, perhaps implied force and her submission. Anyway, I hate that crap anyway. Much rather my kids listen to hard core.

I do understand the parents getting mad, but , damn, you had it coming to you if you let your children watch the song being preformed in the first place; the act was sooo screaming "Fuck Me!". My son got a free titty shot with some nasty looking piercing in the nipple, and I will not be suprised if I ever discover he has some sort of fetish about ripping off a bra cup when he becomes an adult. I won't be suprised if an nearly entire generation of upcoming men who saw the show have the same fantasy. ...

[Godless Dave]

Beth, I agree with you about the message the act itself sends, but disagree with how much effect it will have on your kids. It was a second of video out of the hundreds of hours they have already seen. How you and your husband raise them will have far more influence on them than anything they see on TV or in a movie.

[Beth]

Beth, I agree with you about the message the act itself sends, but disagree with how much effect it will have on your kids. It was a second of video out of the hundreds of hours they have already seen. How you and your husband raise them will have far more influence on them than anything they see on TV or in a movie.I'm not so sure. I do not know what the impact will be. I was saying I would not be suprised if it does form that impression on them. From what I understand, sexual imagery when seen young could have a lasting effect. I am not saying it is particularly bad. There are boys who like baloons A LOT and I am sure their mothers had no clue they were helping their sons form that fetish. I do agree that it was just a quick shot, but the adult reaction to it, I'm sure made sure that it was bigger than it was. Helping to make it more important in children's minds. Anyway, an awful lot of kids remember the act and I have heard my kids and their playmates joking about it now that superbowl is coming up.
In my house, there was not much of a reaction other than a "How can people listen to this crap?" But it was in the news for days on end.

I do not think the act warranted the FCC reaction.

[Beth]

Oh, I do not think my children are scarred if that is what you meant, Dave. I do not think forming a sexual association to boobs is a particularly harmful thing. ;) I think, if anything, the mommies were more scarred over their innocent babes seeing it, but tough, they should not have let their kids see the act to begin with if they do not want them seeing sex stuff.

[Shaguar]

My guess is that 0.2 of a second exposure to Janets norks would be a hell of a site less harmful than the hours of her sick brother we have been subject to over the years.

[Beth]

My guess is that 0.2 of a second exposure to Janets norks would be a hell of a site less harmful than the hours of her sick brother we have been subject to over the years.dunno about that. I saw it and was purty grossed out, I think the painful look of that piercing had more to do with it, though.:P But listening to her was the ultimate pain, so maybe I am just biased being an anti-pop bigot. I don't think it was the brief nipple exposure that was harmful, if anything was, I would think it was the adult reaction to it. I just had an issue with the entire act rather than the nipple showing. I know that in the UK, they were making an issue about the horse farting commercials and the like being accepted, but not the boob shot. All I can say is that some forms of humor are socially acceptable but brief nudity in a sexually suggestive situation at seven or eight o'clock in the evening is not to a vast majority of Americans, if the nudity is shown during a family program.

[godfry n. glad]

I envision a new band...

Mommy Has Dirty Chest Bumps

:chuckle:

Is it a broadband?

[godfry n. glad]

My guess is that 0.2 of a second exposure to Janets norks would be a hell of a site less harmful than the hours of her sick brother we have been subject to over the years.dunno about that. I saw it and was purty grossed out, I think the painful look of that piercing had more to do with it, though.:P But listening to her was the ultimate pain, so maybe I am just biased being an anti-pop bigot. I don't think it was the brief nipple exposure that was harmful, if anything was, I would think it was the adult reaction to it. I just had an issue with the entire act rather than the nipple showing. I know that in the UK, they were making an issue about the horse farting commercials and the like being accepted, but not the boob shot. All I can say is that some forms of humor are socially acceptable but brief nudity in a sexually suggestive situation at seven or eight o'clock in the evening is not to a vast majority of Americans, if the nudity is shown during a family program.

Having taught adolescents for about five years, I think that the overboard reaction to the whole incident will do more to impress upon the facile minds of our youth as to how those who are adults to them think about things like exposure of a breast. I'd bet that reaction is going to cause more curiousity and temptation than the original incident ever would have without all the media rant and cant.

I also think that Michael's point about not complaining about gratuitous violence and mayhem but throwing a shitfit about a breast conveys a clear message. Our priorities as a society are out of wack. Koyaanisqatsi.

godfry

[LadyShea]

I don't think it was a piercing Beth. IIRC it was like a pasty with a hole in the middle for the nipple to go through.

[wei yau]

I don't think it was a piercing Beth. IIRC it was like a pasty with a hole in the middle for the nipple to go through.

I thought I remembered seeing a post through the nipple, affixing it to the ornamentation.

[Shake]

...Seeing Partially Exposed Beast on TV
Holy cats! We need to get Animal Planet off the airwaves then! I've seen fully exposed beasts there! :eek:






:clever:

[Ab_Normal]

Shit, I was more offended by all the ads for dick-stiffeners. (I always wanted to explain "four hour erection" to my ten year old, thank you very much...) We'll probably skip the whole damn thing this year; I'll just watch the good ads courtesy of the broadband connection at the office. :D

[Beth]

Shit, I was more offended by all the ads for dick-stiffeners. (I always wanted to explain "four hour erection" to my ten year old, thank you very much...) We'll probably skip the whole damn thing this year; I'll just watch the good ads courtesy of the broadband connection at the office. :DVery good point. I am very open with my kids so I did explain these adds. It made my husband squirm to my sadistic satisfaction. :giggle:

Godfrey, you are right, we are sending out a mixed message about being offended over a nudie shot rather than gratuitous violence and so on. But I did see a hint of sexual violence in that preformance...but I saw it as my fault for letting my hubby convince me that I was just being a prude by turning the channel when Jackson and Timberlake's act came on. Anyway, my kids have seen more nudity in "Life of Brian" than in Jackson's pic, so the booby shot was not a big deal to them, it was all the media flurry after the show that really got to them. That is when they saw that it was really, really bad. *groan*

I am amazed that people are still writing articles on it. I mean, the hurricanes cause more long term trauma on my kids than that damn boob.

[wei yau]

...but I saw it as my fault for letting my hubby convince me that I was just being a prude by turning the channel when Jackson and Timberlake's act came on.

I think accusing you of having good taste in music would have been a more valid charge.

[Petra]

...Seeing Partially Exposed Beast on TV
Holy cats! We need to get Animal Planet off the airwaves then! I've seen fully exposed beasts there! :eek:


Ha! Well caught, Shake.


damned typos! :giggle:

[Petra]

I am amazed that people are still writing articles on it. I mean, the hurricanes cause more long term trauma on my kids than that damn boob.

LOL. It's a satire piece, Beth. :giggle:


(Beautiful pic in your avatar, btw. :yup: )

[Beth]

I am amazed that people are still writing articles on it. I mean, the hurricanes cause more long term trauma on my kids than that damn boob.

LOL. It's a satire piece, Beth. :giggle:Hehe. You got me Luna. I had seen things on the boob shot lately so I took it for granted. Anyhoo...no one should have told me, I could have gone on for evuh and evuh. :cool:

[Shake]

...Seeing Partially Exposed Beast on TV
Holy cats! We need to get Animal Planet off the airwaves then! I've seen fully exposed beasts there! :eek:


Ha! Well caught, Shake.


damned typos! :giggle:
Thank you! Thank you! :bowing:

I was wondering how long it'd be before someone commented on that. C'mon, it's funny!

[Beth]

(Beautiful pic in your avatar, btw. :yup: )Aw! Shucks! :blush: Thank you. :)

[Weaselboots]

I started out thinking the article was real. It wouldn't surprise me. Was from the Onion?
I don't have a TV, and there are times like that i'm soooooooo glad i don't.
We got heaps of media play about it over here. For gods sake, i didn't even see it and still got pissed off over the amount of hoohaa about it. Who cares, go into any newsagents get all the porn you want, go to Coogee Beach topless women everywhere. Isn't there better things to worry about....no...ok sorry.
Anyway not sure where this is leading so i'll go rant elsewhere....

[Petra]

Hehe. You got me Luna. Yeah, I was under that impression. My evil twin is in fits of giggles over getting you like that, too, Beth. :lmao: :innocent: I had seen things on the boob shot lately so I took it for granted. I guess it's topical again because another Super Bowl event is due, reminding people of the outrageous obscenity that is football. :giggle: Anyhoo...no one should have told me, I could have gone on for evuh and evuh. :cool:
I know you could've! :chuckle:



Incidentally, I didn't see the show, natch, only the news-worthy bit of boobie that was repeated ad nauseum and to great merriment over here. Our news anchors were nearly wetting themselves with laughter and cracking silly jokes all over it. The US was in a state of shock and horror, and the rest of the world was rolling on the floor laughing! :hysteric:


But about music and music videos - there is very little that I censor with regard to Zoe. Zoe and I are both big music fans and we'll often watch the vids on our music channel together. We'll criticise the vids, the music, the performers - appraising them or slamming them according to a variety of personal preference criteria. Sometimes, though, we just boogie. :pbjnana: :bundance:

I try to keep things fairly open around here anyway. Male and female nudity is not a problem on our tv's and doesn't seem to cause a great deal of fuss at all. Even our public health advertising is open and direct. We have a public health ad promoting condom use here, and it the hiphop backing music sings "if you don't use a rubba there'll be no hubba hubba", with the ads showing young gay male couples and young straight couples getting their makeout mood on.

[Petra]

I started out thinking the article was real. It wouldn't surprise me. Was from the Onion? It is indeed from The Onion. :)

Anyway not sure where this is leading so i'll go rant elsewhere....

LOL! K.

:wave: :giggle:

[Beth]

Hehe. You got me Luna. Yeah, I was under that impression. My evil twin is in fits of giggles over getting you like that, too, Beth. :lmao: :innocent:
I think I should wear a sticker on my head that says, "RESIDENT SUCKER" :P
I had seen things on the boob shot lately so I took it for granted. I guess it's topical again because another Super Bowl event is due, reminding people of the outrageous obscenity that is football. :giggle:
I KNOW! Football is utterly obscene, but I love to crack jokes about the football players feeling up each other's arses and staring at butts in the huddle. Then I get board from taunting and walk out of the room.
Anyhoo...no one should have told me, I could have gone on for evuh and evuh. :cool:
I know you could've! :chuckle:
Yuppers! So,... do I qualify for the board bimbo award yet? *trips* :wink: :cool:

[Beth]

Incidentally, I didn't see the show, natch, only the news-worthy bit of boobie that was repeated ad nauseum and to great merriment over here. Our news anchors were nearly wetting themselves with laughter and cracking silly jokes all over it. The US was in a state of shock and horror, and the rest of the world was rolling on the floor laughing! :hysteric:
I bet. I thought it was all pretty stupid. But we laughed when Queen Elizabeth sent her doggie to a doggy shrink to save it from the death penalty too.

But about music and music videos - there is very little that I censor with regard to Zoe. Zoe and I are both big music fans and we'll often watch the vids on our music channel together. We'll criticise the vids, the music, the performers - appraising them or slamming them according to a variety of personal preference criteria. Sometimes, though, we just boogie. :pbjnana: :bundance:
I'm not a big fan of music videos. I caught my daughter in my black fishnets yesterday. She and her friends were going out to make a "l'il ho's" video in honor of their role model, Brittany Spears. -yes, they were actually gonna call it l'il ho's. But I don't mind some of them, but I don't like seeing my daughter trying to immulate the girls they see.

I try to keep things fairly open around here anyway. Male and female nudity is not a problem on our tv's and doesn't seem to cause a great deal of fuss at all. Even our public health advertising is open and direct. We have a public health ad promoting condom use here, and it the hiphop backing music sings "if you don't use a rubba there'll be no hubba hubba", with the ads showing young gay male couples and young straight couples getting their makeout mood on.
Well, honestly, too much openess ends me up in the office with the school shrink, a social worker, and school principal because my child knows too much about sex for his age.

[Beth]

Oh, I know it could be argued since they were my fishnets that I was, in fact, the bad example. But she had never seen me in them with a short skirt. If I ever had worn them around, it was with a totally more feminine goth look. I tend not to dress slutty around my kids. -or I hope. :chin:

[godfry n. glad]

I KNOW! Football is utterly obscene, but I love to crack jokes about the football players feeling up each other's arses and staring at butts in the huddle. Then I get board from taunting and walk out of the room.


Heh... Football. Combining two of the worst aspects of American culture: Violence and committee meetings.

Obscene, huh? Maybe that's why I like it.

It sure beats the hell outta those soap operas with the plastic characters who keep having the same rare amensiac episodes, wearing the same inapprorpriate clothing day in and out, swapping spouses and lovers, and butting into each other's business far too much as limp plot devices to drive the sucko storyline. Talk about taunting. It'd take me a mere three minutes of cogent smart remarks before I was exiled from the room. It's just too easy.

Talk about obscene.

And, she never knew enough about football to make a cogent smart remark.



godfry

[Petra]

I bet. I thought it was all pretty stupid. But we laughed when Queen Elizabeth sent her doggie to a doggy shrink to save it from the death penalty too.LOL. Yep, the royals are batshit crazy alright. Too much inbreeding.

I'm not a big fan of music videos. I caught my daughter in my black fishnets yesterday. She and her friends were going out to make a "l'il ho's" video in honor of their role model, Brittany Spears. -yes, they were actually gonna call it l'il ho's. But I don't mind some of them, but I don't like seeing my daughter trying to immulate the girls they see.I have no problem with Zoe watching these girls. While she isn't a fan of Brittany, she is a fan of Christina Aguilera, Pink, and others - and on the boys side, she loves Linkin Park, Greenday, Good Charlotte an' stuff. But we'll generally mock the vids, or go "oooh-ahhh" at particularly neat video effects.

I remember when I was a young punk - no doubt scaring my mother at my own (ripped) fishnets, pink and green hair, black nail polish and freaky make-up, razor blades and safety pins, pogo'ing to Anarchy in the UK and Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonight, (which I found out years later was originally a Fleetwood Mac song! The horror!)

I guess Zoe is still only 10 and is generally a good kid - things could definitely change as she gets into her middle teens, I s'pose.

I dunno. So many variables. It ain't always easy being a young girl's mum, that's for sure.



Well, honestly, too much openess ends me up in the office with the school shrink, a social worker, and school principal because my child knows too much about sex for his age.

That's ridiculous and rather sad. :(

On what criteria do these dorks assess what is too much knowledge?

[Beth]

I KNOW! Football is utterly obscene, but I love to crack jokes about the football players feeling up each other's arses and staring at butts in the huddle. Then I get board from taunting and walk out of the room.


Heh... Football. Combining two of the worst aspects of American culture: Violence and committee meetings.

Obscene, huh? Maybe that's why I like it.

It sure beats the hell outta those soap operas with the plastic characters who keep having the same rare amensiac episodes, wearing the same inapprorpriate clothing day in and out, swapping spouses and lovers, and butting into each other's business far too much as limp plot devices to drive the sucko storyline. Talk about taunting. It'd take me a mere three minutes of cogent smart remarks before I was exiled from the room. It's just too easy.

Talk about obscene.

And, she never knew enough about football to make a cogent smart remark.



godfryGodfry, I know alot about football. I used to play it. My son plays it. I just really hate to hear the damn thing on TV all day long. ;) And I don't watch soaps. :)

[Petra]

It sure beats the hell outta those soap operas with the plastic characters who keep having the same rare amensiac episodes, wearing the same inapprorpriate clothing day in and out, swapping spouses and lovers, and butting into each other's business far too much as limp plot devices to drive the sucko storyline. Talk about taunting. It'd take me a mere three minutes of cogent smart remarks before I was exiled from the room. It's just too easy.



Oh, and don't forget cutesy sitcoms that just have to end with some kind of moral message. I hate those things.

Everybody Loves Raymond? Fuck off, I hate the guy and there's no way in hell my kid is watching that awful pulp!

:puke:

[viscousmemories]

:chuckle: I hear ya. God I hate that show.

[Beth]

I'm not a big fan of music videos. I caught my daughter in my black fishnets yesterday. She and her friends were going out to make a "l'il ho's" video in honor of their role model, Brittany Spears. -yes, they were actually gonna call it l'il ho's. But I don't mind some of them, but I don't like seeing my daughter trying to immulate the girls they see.I have no problem with Zoe watching these girls. While she isn't a fan of Brittany, she is a fan of Christina Aguilera, Pink, and others - and on the boys side, she loves Linkin Park, Greenday, Good Charlotte an' stuff. But we'll generally mock the vids, or go "oooh-ahhh" at particularly neat video effects. My daughter likes Pink and all sorts of groups.
I remember when I was a young punk - no doubt scaring my mother at my own (ripped) fishnets, pink and green hair, black nail polish and freaky make-up, razor blades and safety pins, pogo'ing to Anarchy in the UK and Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonight, (which I found out years later was originally a Fleetwood Mac song! The horror!)I do not mind her wearing different colored hair. But there are styles in dress I must draw the line at. So when she and the girls try to cross it, I have to get firm.


I guess Zoe is still only 10 and is generally a good kid - things could definitely change as she gets into her middle teens, I s'pose. My daughter is nine. I know...I'm in trouble...

I dunno. So many variables. It ain't always easy being a young girl's mum, that's for sure.
I know. It's difficult to determine how much leeway to give sometimes.


Well, honestly, too much openess ends me up in the office with the school shrink, a social worker, and school principal because my child knows too much about sex for his age.

That's ridiculous and rather sad. :(

On what criteria do these dorks assess what is too much knowledge?
I'm not sure. It can be whatever the educators may assume is too much. Thing is, kids do know a lot these days.

[Ab_Normal]

? Where do you find music videos to watch? We've got like two channels of MTV and two channels of VH1 and none of them seem to be playing videos when I flick by them... ;)

[Petra]

? Where do you find music videos to watch? We've got like two channels of MTV and two channels of VH1 and none of them seem to be playing videos when I flick by them... ;)

http://www.c4tv.co.nz/

It's not all music, but mostly it is.

And then there's the weekly Video Hits, Top of the Pops and shows like that on another channel.


Actually, Zoe cracked me up when a short cartoon was shown on C4 and before it played it a parental warning was broadcast stating that the show was not approriate for young viewers and may offend. She asked me if she should change channel because of the warning. Bless her sweet heart. :) Anyway, I said no, I wanted to see what the fuss was all about, so we watched it. It was only about 5 minutes long, and bloody hilarious. After it was over, Zoe simply said, "well, I thought that was pretty funny myself". lol.

[RevDahlia]

I think the most odious thing about Boobgate was how Justin Timberlake let Janet take all the heat in the media while he refused to accept any responsibility. It totally destroyed the credit he got with me from his lampooning of Jessica Simpson on "SNL".

The formidable ladies of Fametracker (http://forums.fametracker.com) have taken to calling him "The PAB", for "Punk-ass Bitch". Apt.

I think Beth has a point about the implied sexual violence, especially considering how poor Janet got such a drubbing and nobody said a word against the PAB. Sexual politics in this country are so fucked up.

[Brimshack]

The findings will no doubt be taken as evidence in favor of censoring sexual imagery, proof that exposure to such things is harmful to kids. But an exposed breast should not be a source of trauma, not even to kids. If this one incident is such a source of trauma, then that is at least as much due to the rediculous baggage attached to nudity throughout mainstream American culture as to the nudity itself. We can certainly question the market-driven ideo-sexuality of the act itself, but we should also question the foolishness of attempts to isolate children from such basic facts of life. The question isn't whether or not the exposure is traumatic, but why on earth a simple human breast could be a source of so much anxiety.

[Legs]

I noticed on CNN today that Budweiser pulled an ad planned for today with a wardrobe malfuction. Nobody has a sense of humor anymore, we are too PC.

From the article

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Anheuser-Busch is pulling an advertisement planned for this year's Super Bowl that would have poked fun at last year's infamous "wardrobe malfunction" that exposed Janet Jackson's breast during the halftime show, according to a published report.

Link to the full article at CNN
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/news/fortune500/budweiser_super_bowl_ad/