"Cops" ~ The Unedited Version

[Shelli]

During the past 12 years or so of living at my present location, I've grown acclimated to seeing all sorts of goings on between civilians and civilians along with between civilians and policemen & women. The worst so far was waking up at 2:00 in the morning a couple years ago to witness the paramedics trying to revive a woman after a crack/heroin overdose or bad batch. My next door neighbor had kicked her out of his house that he lets people smoke crack in (for a fee, I'm sure) after she started going into convulsions because he didn't want her to die in his house. (I know this because the guy told me himself like this was totally cool and all.) So, she died across the street from his house instead. Nice. Asshole. If I ever see him bleeding/dying wherever, you can betcher ass I'll be looking the other way. :blindfold:

I bring this up now because just in the past week I've had two free of charge episodes of "Cops" just outside my front door. Last Saturday, a guy was apprehended two houses down for slashing a guys neck and killing him at a different location and then coming to a family member's house on my street to hide out. There were at least 10 cop cars out front of my house. One of them with the slasher in question sitting in it before going away for a long long time. :bai:

Tonight, just a couple hours ago, I was switching the laundry and so happened to be near an open window (which I otherwise wouldn't have because the air conditioners are going elsewhere in the house) and first heard the short siren of a police car pulling someone over and then heard "POW! POW! POW!" and then heard my neighbor yelling at his dogs to get inside. That's not fireworks, I thought. Nope. I look out front to see cops surround the car, yelling at the occupants to get out and asking the driver, "do you have anything else?" and then going to another window to see that there's blood all over the driver's side door and the driver is now being sat on the curb being administered first aide and awaiting an ambulance seeing as how he was shot in the arm. The ambulance comes a short while later and takes him away. (another one who's going away for a long long time :bai:) Cops and more cops show up to investigate and ask neighbors if they saw what happened, including myself. A knock just came on my door a couple minutes ago. They are raking through his car like there's no tomorrow, picking up shell casings from the sidewalk and street, taping off the area, and are now awaiting at least three news crews I heard someone say when I was out there. My house will be on the news! Oh, goody! :excited:

:whatthefuck:

I really ought to start taping this shit. :rich:

[Naru]

:gooduse:

Shelli lives in the rough part of Springfield :worry:

[Shelli]

:squeezle:

Yeah, so it would seem. I don't recall it being this bad years ago. It gets worse every year. I often wonder if making drugs legal would put an end to most of the violence around here, considering that most of it is illegal drug related. :girlthink:

[Dingfod]

Whatever you do, don't photograph them (http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/01/shrubshell.html).

[godfry n. glad]

:squeezle:

Yeah, so it would seem. I don't recall it being this bad years ago. It gets worse every year. I often wonder if making drugs legal would put an end to most of the violence around here, considering that most of it is illegal drug related. :girlthink:


Just what the hell did you expect, when you live in the same town as the Simpsons?

[Shelli]

Whatever you do, don't photograph them (http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/01/shrubshell.html).heh, no, I think I'll opt out. :nope:


:squeezle:

Yeah, so it would seem. I don't recall it being this bad years ago. It gets worse every year. I often wonder if making drugs legal would put an end to most of the violence around here, considering that most of it is illegal drug related. :girlthink:


Just what the hell did you expect, when you live in the same town as the Simpsons?:chuckle:

[Shelli]

But wait! There's a twist!

Springfield man shot by police ~ under investigation (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/springfield_man_shot_by_police.html?category=Crime&category=Springfield)

SPRINGFIELD - The Police Department's Detective Bureau isinvestigating an incident on Kensington Avenue Saturday night is which a police officer shot a man he thought had a firearm, police said.

The officer under investigation, whose name was not released, and his partner had stopped Louis Jiles, 18, of Springfield at 36 Kensington Ave. near Earl Street, just prior to the shooting, Sgt. Trent C. Duda said today.

Jiles received "very minor injuries to the wrist," and was treated and released at Baystate Medical Center, Duda said.

Jiles was then booked on a list of charges that included assault with a dangerous weapon, reckless operation of a motor vehicle and failure to stop for police. Duda did not know what the dangerous weapon was, saying that was part of the investigation.

1. What dangerous weapon? It would seem he didn't have one, correct?

2. What failure to stop? The guy pulled over just as soon as I heard the police car's pull over siren.

:susp2:

[Watser?]

That's quite a twist...

[Shelli]

Yeah, that it is. IMO, the car that the kid was driving was definitely a drug car but that surely does not excuse the trigger happy cop. :nuhuh:

The kid was lucky to get away with a minor wrist wound. What if the cop had seriously wounded or killed him.. not to mention possible passerbys on the sidewalk, kids playing on the front lawn next door or even a stray bullet toward my house with say, my husband mowing the front lawn? :glare:

Oh, did I mention that the cop was white and the kid he shot was black? How surprising... :iseewhatyoudid:

[California Tanker]

1. What dangerous weapon? It would seem he didn't have one, correct?


A car is considered a deadly weapon under the law. If you looked like you might have trie to run over someone with it, it's ADW.

NTM

[mindbender]

Yeah, sometime the real world is crazier than television. Last year in, I'm thinking October or November, I witnessed a bank get robbed at gunpoint. No one was injured and it all went down very fast. Perpetrator left on foot with the loot and the cops arrived within minutes. I remember filling out two separate reports, one for the bank and one for the cops, with my testimony.

Not long after that, I heard a cash and sirens, followed by bunch of yelling at about 4am one night. I looked outside my apartment, and there were police chasing some guys on foot. As soon as one of the policemen saw me, he ordered me back inside. (This was in a good area of town too, actually beyond city limits.)

That was a few months after I heard a HUGE crash outside and ran out to find an SUV overturned at the entrance into the apartments (around 7pm in the evening). Medics, firemen, police, sheriff's department, all on scene. Don't know what exactly happened there. Assuming the vehicle got sideswiped (probably by a drunk driver or someone not paying attention) and the SUV, being poorly designed, simply turned over like men do after sex. Left huge mess and someone get carried off on a stretcher.

[Shelli]

2. What failure to stop? The guy pulled over just as soon as I heard the police car's pull over siren. I just learned that they tried to pull him over on a street prior to mine and he decided he didn't like their plan and so didn't stop until my street. :doh:



1. What dangerous weapon? It would seem he didn't have one, correct?


A car is considered a deadly weapon under the law. If you looked like you might have trie to run over someone with it, it's ADW.

NTMHmm.. yeah, that could be it.

[Smilin]

Shelli...

Listen to the voices that are telling you to....

"GET OUT!"

[Shelli]

Latest update...

Springfield police probe officer's shooting of suspect (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/springfield_police_probe_offic.html?category=Springfield&category=Springfield)

SPRINGFIELD - Police, probing the shooting by one of their own of a suspect during a traffic stop Saturday night, expect to release the officer's name later today.

"As soon as we hear from (the Hampden County District Attorney's office)," Springfield Police Department spokesman Sgt. John M. Delaney said this morning.

Louis Jiles, 18, of Springfield, suffered a minor injury to his wrist when the officer shot him during a stop at 36 Kensington Ave. near Earl Street about 7 p.m., police said.

Both the officer under investigation and his partner stopped Jiles, police said.

"During the traffic stop, rounds were fired at the driver," said Sgt. Trent C. Duda, adding he did not know the number of shots that were fired.

Jiles was treated at Baystate Medical Center and released, officials said.

Jiles was booked on a list of charges that included assault with a dangerous weapon, reckless operation of a motor vehicle and failure to stop for police.

Duda did not know what the dangerous weapon was, saying that was part of the investigation.

Jiles is slated to be arraigned today in Springfield District Court.

Delaney said the officer is now working inside duty pending the investigation which is being conducted internally as well as by the Hampden County District Attorney's office.

I know exactly how many shots were fired and more than one witness (including myself) told the investigating policeman that night....

:3c:

[Shelli]

The latest update...

Patrolman in Springfield shooting put on desk duty (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/patrolman_in_springfield_shoot.html?category=Crime&category=Springfield)

SPRINGFIELD - The city patrolman who shot an 18-year-old man in the wrist during a traffic stop Saturday has been assigned to inside duty while the Police Department and Hampden County district attorney investigate the incident, officials said.

Police Sgt. John M. Delaney, aide to Commissioner William J. Fitchet, today confirmed the department's Internal Affairs Unit and the district attorney's office are looking into the incident.

The officer's name has not been released.

Louis Jiles, 18, of Springfield, suffered a minor injury to his wrist when the officer shot him during a stop at 36 Kensington Ave. near Earl Street about 7 p.m., police said.

The officer apparently thought Jiles had a weapon and fired at least two rounds into the car, police said.

The actual number of shots was not disclosed.

Jiles was treated at Baystate Medical Center and released, officials said.

Jiles was booked on a list of charges that included assault with a dangerous weapon, reckless operation of a motor vehicle and failure to stop for police.

Police have not elaborated on the dangerous weapon charge or what weapon was involved.

Jiles was scheduled to be arraigned today in Springfield District Court but the hearing was put off until tomorrow.

District Attorney William Bennett said he may issue a statement on the case following Jiles' appearance in court.

Delaney said the department is deferring to Bennett's wishes and not commenting about the case.

It is the first time a Springfield police officer has shot a suspect since Aug. 5, 2005, when two officers shot a 19-year-old man in leg during a foot chase on Oswego Street in the city's South End.

The shooting was later determined to be justified by Bennett's office because the suspect had a gun and pointed it at the officers.

It was three shots! THREE! :rant:

omg.. that's driving me nuts(er). :giggle:

[Watser?]

How many shots wuzzit? :listen:

[Shelli]

:hairpull:

THREE!!!1!ONE!!!!!!1!ELEVEN!!!!!11!!!1!

:giggle:

[Crumb]

3, 1 or 11? :confused:

I hear it is quite common for witnesses to disagree on the number of shots that are fired. With echoes, stress, bad memories, etc.

[Shelli]

:shakeglare:

T H R E E

[California Tanker]

It's standard procedure to take an officer off the streets pending the result of an investigation to a shooting, it's not a declaration of suspiscion or anything.

There's a bit of an international incident going on right now after Silverton, OR Police shot and killed an Irishman there over the weekend. They're looking at it in Ireland as "He was hit seven times, and the policeman has been suspended. It must have been police excessiveness, there's no other call for so many shots or for him to be suspended!"

NTM

[Ymir's blood]

Shelli, obviously the policeman was using magic bullets.

[Brimshack]

Wow, that's pretty freaky that happened so close to where you live. I wonder how many shots they fired at the guy...

[slimshady2357]

Wow, that's pretty freaky that happened so close to where you live. I wonder how many shots they fired at the guy...

They should try interviewing some of the neighbours, someone might have heard something.

Though in cases like this, people are often reluctant to speak up, even on the interwebs apparently.

[Shelli]

SHRIEK!!!1!
:cryout:


:lol: @ all of youse

[Shelli]

Assault charge dropped against man shot by police (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/assault_charge_dropped_against.html?category=Crime&category=Springfield)

SPRINGFIELD - Louis Jiles, the 18-year-old city resident who was shot in the wrist by police during a traffic stop on Sunday, pleaded innocent this morning to four motor vehicle offenses and was released on his own recognizance.

The state is not going forward on a charge against Jiles of assault with a dangerous weapon.

Also this morning, Hampden District Attorney William M. Bennett said no charges will be pursued against the officers involved in the incident.

Prosecutors said police mistook a beer bottle Jiles was holding for a gun, and officer Stephen Hill shot the defendant in the right wrist. Three shots were fired, and the defendant was hit once, officials said.

Jiles was charged with unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle, reckless operation of a motor vehicle, failure to stop for police and violating the open container law.

I wonder if Jiles will be suing? :objection:

[Sock Puppet]

How fucked up do you have to be to continue holding onto the beer bottle when you finally stop for the cops? :facepalm:

[Shelli]

Three shots were I coulda told ja that. :rolleyes:

:giggle:

[Shelli]

How fucked up do you have to be to continue holding onto the beer bottle when you finally stop for the cops? :facepalm:No shit, right? :tard:

[LadyShea]

How fucked up do you have to be to continue holding onto the beer bottle when you finally stop for the cops? :facepalm:


Especially if you're black...though I hate that that is a consideration. Seriously though, as a black driver getting pulled over, you're automatically more likely to get shot at.

[Sock Puppet]

I wasn't even thinking of the gun angle (although that's stupid too -- as lily white as I am, I always make sure my hands are in full view when dealing with police), just the open-container one. Hmm, maybe they'll go easy on me if I propose a toast to them ...