my eyes are burning, a pepper spray story

[beyelzu]

hypothetically speaking.

cops here in georgia have to be pepper sprayed before they are certified to carry pepper spray and they all say that it is really shitty and painful.


I wanted to see what the fuss was about so I had a buddy of mine pepper spray me.


it hurt alot. I was blind for about 30 minutes all the while continuously rinsing off my face. I couldnt keep my eyes open for more than a few seconds for another 30 minutes or so.


fine now.

but damn that was badass.

I dont have a desire to do it again however, bring on the gom jabbar, baby.

/hypothetically speaking

[livius drusus]

bey, you are ouchoremind. :nojustno:

[beyelzu]

bey, you are ouchoremind. :nojustno:
cmon, you havent ever wondered what pepper spray feels like?

you ever wonder what its like to be tasered?


I was curious to see if I could handle it or not, now I am not curious.

[livius drusus]

No sir, I've never wondered anything like that. Bikini wax has answered pretty much all of those questions for me.

[Dingfod]

I've shocked myself on purpose with the no-bark dog collar we were putting on Laney's black lab, Sugar Bear.

I've tested the electric fence a number of times by touching it. I do not recommend grabbing because the shock causes the muscles to contract making you clasp it tighter. Good thing it has an interrupter on it or you couldn't let go of it.

The worst eye trauma I suffered was when I took a large grasshopper in the eye at 60 mph while riding a 350 Yamaha down Main Street, Wakita, Oklahoma (the town in the movie Twister). I couldn't see out of either eye for several minutes and couldn't open that eye at all for at least 10 or 15 minutes. Fortunately I was able to get the motorcycle stopped without wrecking.

As for pepper in the eyes, I accidently rubbed my eyes when I had cayenne pepper on my fingers. Ouch! Burned for a long time. Do not want to repeat the experience.

[viscousmemories]

Part of Army basic training involves going into a little building full of teargas with a gas mask on, removing the mask and taking a deep breath, then exiting the rear of the building. I'm pretty sure that was the most painful and terrifying experience I've ever had, but it doesn't seem so bad with nearly 20 years having gone by. Bey, you're insane.

[Ensign Steve]

Woo! Gas chamber rules!

Did everybody love Jackass: The Movie? Those guys are psycho.

[beyelzu]

Woo! Gas chamber rules!

Did everybody love Jackass: The Movie? Those guys are psycho.
you know, I have never really gotten into the whole jackass phenomena as it really never seemed that impressive, just stupid.

[Ensign Steve]

:eh?:

[Dingfod]

Part of Army basic training involves going into a little building full of teargas with a gas mask on, removing the mask and taking a deep breath, then exiting the rear of the building. I'm pretty sure that was the most painful and terrifying experience I've ever had, but it doesn't seem so bad with nearly 20 years having gone by. Bey, you're insane.One of the safety training exercises we had at one ammonia fertilizer plant I worked at involved a portable building completely full of ammonia vapor, all air had been displaced. The only air in the building came in when you opened the door and stepped in. One breath at that percentage ammonia could cause immediate respiratory paralysis so they didn't make us to take our fresh air masks off. However, we did have to enter the building, close two valves and open two others on a pipe rack inside to simulate a very possible real life scenario, such the refrigeration compressor blowing a seal. It would take less than a minute to accomplish that, but that was usually as much as anyone would want to have. You see, ammonia has an affinity for water. Ammonia in water raises its pH immediately to alkaline, high enough in a half minute or so it begins to burn any moist areas of the body. I've seen grown men come out of the building screaming and run for the safety shower nearby. One guy's groin was burning so bad he straddled the safety eye wash station. Just imagine for a second what happened the first time a woman went through this exercise. This is a gas chamber that no one loved.

[Crumb]

I'm with you, Bey.

[beyelzu]

I'm with you, Bey.
thank you I think.


on what though?


the pepper spray and testing your limits

or jackiass just wasnt that cool?

[Corona688]

I've shocked myself on purpose with the no-bark dog collar we were putting on Laney's black lab, Sugar Bear.http://angryflower.com/really.gif

[pescifish]

I'm glad it went ok, beyelzu. :)

[beyelzu]

I'm glad it went ok, beyelzu. :)
why thank you.

it was pretty shitty, but I handled it pretty well.


think I am ready for some bene gesserit action?

[Dingfod]

Corona688, I love Bob the Angry Flower. I actually chuckled out loud at your posting it. Now my coworker thinks I'm nuts. No, wait. I probably just confirmed what he already thought.

[viscousmemories]

This is a gas chamber that no one loved.
Sheesus. :yuck:

[pescifish]

it was pretty shitty, but I handled it pretty well.


think I am ready for some bene gesserit action?I dunno.

I've actually been thinking about this since last night when we were talking about it in chat. The pepper spray was an experience of pain, but maybe not the same sort of trial as the gom jabbar box of pain initiation test.

The pepper spray was something your buddy shot you with and once done, set in motion a series of reactions you really had little control over. I can see how you have learned a lot about the experience of pain, but...

Does that mean you could prove your humanity by inserting your hand in the box of pain and leave it there without pulling it out? The poison in the needle of the gom jabbar is deadly only to humans, rational thought and the threat of death at your neck requires you to endure the unimaginable pain. Would you be an animal and pull your hand by instinct, belying the threat at your neck by the Sister? :graduate:

[lady cop]

Ronin? come tell your OC experience... as for mine, i was the MOST TERRIFIED of anyone in my academy class. i agonized over it for weeks ahead of time, i had heard the horror stories and seen videotape of other classes. i was SURE i would be the one to die right out there on the firing range. ambulance standing by was a nice touch too. :ambulance: i was nauseous with abject gut-twisting fear.....sooo it was finally time. the sadistic instructor was getting off on this i knew. he lined us up, three at a time and we linked arms and stood there for the whole facefull. no namby-pamby fannying about. right in the eyes and scross the face in an X. twice. three times! well my buddies, the badass ex marines were running up and down the range tearing their clothes off and screaming for their mommies. one guy was rolling around on the ground like a crazed dog. people were beating each other for the water hose. one man could absolutely not breathe. and i just stood there. i barely felt it! i couldn't believe it! i walked to my car and had a smoke. then i helped my fellows get to the showers and all that nice stuff. the LT said to everyone, well now you know not everyone is going to go down with this shit, so be ready for a pissed off subject! beyelzu, was this commercial spray or police issue?there is a difference in strength. i still can't believe i got that lucky! ................. :abitmuch:

[John Carter]

I've never had the pleasure of being hit with pepper spray, but I have experienced tear gas three times. You get used to it. The first time was not fun at all, but wasn't incapacitating. The second was not so bad, and the third time it was no big deal. The real key is to keep your hands away from your face. All that does is rub it in and make things worse. I hear that pepper spray is much worse than tear gas, however.

As lady cop said, things like pepper spray or mace, etc, are not necessarily the automatic take down you might think. A few years ago, there was an incident at a grocery store parking lot. A woman had just left the store, and some guy in a car began driving along side making rude comments to her. She pulled out a can of mace from her purse and sprayed him. According to the news reports I saw, he then left, drove around the lot and then came back and shot her.

[Dingfod]

I've never had the pleasure of being hit with pepper spray, but I have experienced tear gas three times. You get used to it. The first time was not fun at all, but wasn't incapacitating. The second was not so bad, and the third time it was no big deal.That's about the way it is working in an ammonia vapor rich atmosphere. At first it burns like hell, then gradually you get used to it until finally it really doesn't bother you much at all. It was always funny to take a newbie on rounds and see them tear up and commence to coughing while I was standing there quite unaffected while explaining the compressor controls.

[Ronin]

In order to be certified to carry OC (MKIII 5.5 % Pepper Mace) with my agency, one must be "sprayed".

fwiw...I never, ever...ever...understood that shit.

I carry an 9mm handgun and never once was told that I had to be goddamn shot with it in order to qualify for one!!

But, I digress....crap...sorry.

In short, OC qualification day for me came one spring afternoon of 1991, right after a one mile run. I approached my certification group (sucking big wind) just as Smith blasted me full on in the face with about half a can...mostly around the eyes and nose. (bastard)

The entire test was conducted on video and...I suppose...is somewhere on file. I suffered a good 45 minutes of spider-man-like snot-ropes that cold water just seemed to aggravate. Apparently, though, a couple of other goobs (military-types) ran like girls to the academy showers to hose off...only to get it, hardcore, in other rather sensitive areas during the rinse off.

:shocking:

Fortunately, I was able to summon forth many of the words of the peaceful and serene boddhisatva Thich Nat Hanh in that very moment...and looked Smith directly in the face and said "Damnit!!! This shit HURTS, you FUCKER!!!"

Suffering...yes...it is all about suffering.

:buddha:

[livius drusus]

Is it sadistic of me to find that hilarious? :lmao:

[Ronin]

Shit no.

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Bitch.

:popeyes:

[beyelzu]

Ronin? come tell your OC experience... as for mine, i was the MOST TERRIFIED of anyone in my academy class. i agonized over it for weeks ahead of time, i had heard the horror stories and seen videotape of other classes. i was SURE i would be the one to die right out there on the firing range. ambulance standing by was a nice touch too. :ambulance: i was nauseous with abject gut-twisting fear.....sooo it was finally time. the sadistic instructor was getting off on this i knew. he lined us up, three at a time and we linked arms and stood there for the whole facefull. no namby-pamby fannying about. right in the eyes and scross the face in an X. twice. three times! well my buddies, the badass ex marines were running up and down the range tearing their clothes off and screaming for their mommies. one guy was rolling around on the ground like a crazed dog. people were beating each other for the water hose. one man could absolutely not breathe. and i just stood there. i barely felt it! i couldn't believe it! i walked to my car and had a smoke. then i helped my fellows get to the showers and all that nice stuff. the LT said to everyone, well now you know not everyone is going to go down with this shit, so be ready for a pissed off subject! beyelzu, was this commercial spray or police issue?there is a difference in strength. i still can't believe i got that lucky! ................. :abitmuch:

it was police issue, and I damn sure wasnt immune to the shit.

:)

[beyelzu]

it was pretty shitty, but I handled it pretty well.


think I am ready for some bene gesserit action?I dunno.

I've actually been thinking about this since last night when we were talking about it in chat. The pepper spray was an experience of pain, but maybe not the same sort of trial as the gom jabbar box of pain initiation test.

The pepper spray was something your buddy shot you with and once done, set in motion a series of reactions you really had little control over. I can see how you have learned a lot about the experience of pain, but...

Does that mean you could prove your humanity by inserting your hand in the box of pain and leave it there without pulling it out? The poison in the needle of the gom jabbar is deadly only to humans, rational thought and the threat of death at your neck requires you to endure the unimaginable pain. Would you be an animal and pull your hand by instinct, belying the threat at your neck by the Sister? :graduate:


indeed, ultimately one has to deal with the pain of being pepper sprayed because you cant just end it like pulling your hand out.

I have never lost rational thought while being in pain.

course, if anyone has a gom jabar, I am certainly willing to give it a try.

[Ensign Steve]

I've shocked myself on purpose with the no-bark dog collar we were putting on Laney's black lab, Sugar Bear.

Tell me, is this product effective? My blessed little Caesar will not shut the FUCK up, and I am ready to murder him.

(of course he's just a baby and I'd check with the vet before I'd use anything like that)

[viscousmemories]

Tell me, is this product effective? My blessed little Caesar will not shut the FUCK up, and I am ready to murder him.

(of course he's just a baby and I'd check with the vet before I'd use anything like that)
I get e-mail notifications of new posts, and quoted remarks don't show up. So when I read this post I thought you were saying that you'd check with a vet before you'd try pepper spray on your puppy to shut him up. I was totally torn between "Well it's good that she's gonna check with the vet first" and "Is she fucking sadistic? Wtf?" :giggle:

[Dingfod]

I've shocked myself on purpose with the no-bark dog collar we were putting on Laney's black lab, Sugar Bear.

Tell me, is this product effective? My blessed little Caesar will not shut the FUCK up, and I am ready to murder him.

(of course he's just a baby and I'd check with the vet before I'd use anything like that)Maybe it works on some, maybe not. In my experience I don't think it is the most humane way to train them, especially if they just don't get it, like Sugar Bear, who was too dumb to learn what it was that was shocking him. He would first bark then yelp from the shock, bark, yelp... bark, yelp... bark, yelp... all night long... every bloody night. I tried closing him up in the windowless shop building, but he tore a bunch of stuff up. My daughter Laney totally abandoned him at our place before going off on her drug-binge lifestyle. Eventually, after we lost enough sleep, we took him to a no-kill shelter. This was partly because of the incessant barking and partly because he took a liking to chasing and nipping the horses. He even got kicked a couple of times by Penny the mare, once rolling him for about 20 feet, and still didn't learn not to do that either. I've trained more than one dog to do more than a few things in my life and for the life of me, I think he was just plain stupid. I hope he found a good home.

[Jacey]

hypothetically speaking.

cops here in georgia have to be pepper sprayed before they are certified to carry pepper spray and they all say that it is really shitty and painful.


I wanted to see what the fuss was about so I had a buddy of mine pepper spray me.


it hurt alot. I was blind for about 30 minutes all the while continuously rinsing off my face. I couldnt keep my eyes open for more than a few seconds for another 30 minutes or so.


fine now.

but damn that was badass.

I dont have a desire to do it again however, bring on the gom jabbar, baby.

/hypothetically speaking

When I was at Quantico in 2000, I asked to do some training with MSG (Marine Security Guard) Battalion. I wanted to do some hands on stuff for articles in the base paper that I wrote for.

[For an idea how crazy these f'ers are, when it was announced who was going to the embassies that had been bombed in '99 to replace the dead, after a pause, they all yelled and screamed like they'd won the lottery.]

Anyway, I got pepper sprayed with a ton of MSG candidates, and my eyes were still killing me two hours later. I described the pain as if someone was literally trying to drive shards of glass into my eyeballs. I still went to wrestling practice that night though!

[TomJoe]

Woo! Gas chamber rules!

Did everybody love Jackass: The Movie? Those guys are psycho.
you know, I have never really gotten into the whole jackass phenomena as it really never seemed that impressive, just stupid.

Sort of like volunteering to get pepper sprayed? :wink: