Comparing sensations...

[seebs]

When I was in junior high, lo these many years ago, this one girl caused quite a stir by declaring that the reason she thought sex was gross was that she didn't have a clitoris.

Now, that sounds a little silly, but in years since, I've noticed that different women describe their responses very differently.

I am unlikely to get a chance to pursue hands-on research on a statistically significant number of people, but... Is there much variance? Are there women for whom the clitoris is not especially sensitive, or is this just a question of pilot error?

[Petra]

Uh-oh. Seebs is horny.

:giggle:

[pescifish]

When I was in junior high, lo these many years ago, this one girl caused quite a stir by declaring that the reason she thought sex was gross was that she didn't have a clitoris.I'm trying to figure out how the existence or lack thereof of a clitoris would have any relationship to the gross-osity (or lack thereof) of sex.

Did that mean that if she had a clitoris she would enjoy it more, thus making it less gross? I don't get it. Just because something is pleasurable and "good" doesn't mean it can't also be gross, does it?

Sorry seebs, since I'm only one female, a heterosexual at that, my hands-on research is limited really to, um, one, so I can't really help you with the OP.

But seriously, how does "gross" equate to "missing a clitoris" or, inversely, "having a clitoris" equals "not gross".

[MooseIBe]

As far as I know, there are no cases of women being born without a clitoris! Maybe she just hadn't found it, I dunno?

Then again, I HAVE heard of women who don't experience any sort of sexual desire at all .. though they do physically possess clitorises (clitori?). I dunno what would cause such a thing .. sounds like the type of thing that actually could be psychological rather than physical.

[SharonDee]

Sex is gross because it's gross. :bleh: (All those juices sloshing around and getting on each other and on the sheets {or the upholstery if you're not in a bed} and on the walls, during a particularly messy encounter.)

And I have a clitoris; I know, I found it once.

[seebs]

This was maybe 18 years ago, and I never heard the rest of it. I think her theory was that there was nothing really sensitive to make her horny or something.

She did get in trouble for bringing it up at lunch, though.

[Bella]

A bunch of us girls from work (we're on Promenade Place, seebs, you should come check all us hottie Starbucks girls out) got together for a sleepover last night and we played Truth or Dare. One of the "truths" was telling everyone else how they masturbated. Out of the five of us there, one used a dildo in her vagina and clitoral stimulation, two ONLY came from clitoral stimulation, and the other two found they climaxed better when squeezing their legs together and sort of doing the Kegels exercises at the same time. They said that while they can come from clitoral stimulation it takes them a long time because they're not so sensitive there. Their orgasms apparently come from the inside out, so to speak.

So, yeah.

[seebs]

Bree, thanks! This may come in handy if I ever get to sleep with one of those girls. :P

Seriously, that's fascinating; the notion that stimulation would vary that widely... No wonder girls have such a hard time getting off!

[MooseIBe]

I don't have a hard time getting off :D

[Crumb]

I don't have a hard time getting off

Well some of us are born lucky, and some of us get lucky. :wink:

[MooseIBe]

You look like you're getting lucky in that picture!

Okay, just to reignite that one, I am interested to know .. can any women here reach orgasm without any sort of clitoral stimulation whatsoever?

[seebs]

I know one who can. Not a poster here.

[justaman]

My last serious girlfriend was basically clitorally dead. Lingus was useless. The only time she came was from penetration with no clitoral action whatever. And she usually had to be drunk.

All the other chicks I've been with have needed clitoral work to make it happen bar one or two one-nighters which may or may not have been real.

Frankly - in this day and age - I'm of the opinion the chicks should be aware of how to get themselves off during sex and to actively seek that end. I know I find it difficult to climax if I'm not controlling the action. Take a little initiative! Don't let women's lib go for nothing.

[Sweetie]

Ha, was gonna post in this thread another day but couldn't remember the three different names/types of female orgasms. Here's a bit of a run-down:

http://www.actionlove.com/love/3-types.htm

So:

Clitoris, G-spot and Epicenter orgasms

for seebs:

Seriously, that's fascinating; the notion that stimulation would vary that widely... No wonder girls have such a hard time getting off!

G-spot ones are the most interesting and the most difficult "area" to try to maneuver and manipulate towards an orgasmic end though the most powerful if it can be achieved. :yup: I wouldn't be recommending it to your newbie just yet. :P


Are there women for whom the clitoris is not especially sensitive, or is this just a question of pilot error?

When there's three triggers not including the woman's heart and intellect then I would imagine with each woman, the strength of each trigger is dependent upon the individual woman in general though I would assume many commonalities.

[Sweetie]

Now, the comparing sensation bit that I find the most interesting is the experience of the male orgasm as compared with the female orgasm. Tests are impossible lol, but I sat a friend down one day, donned my librarian glasses and went all clinical on him which unfortunately he found rather attractive :D and was grilling him, "does it feel like this, does it do that?" :D

[seebs]

Heh. Actually, that's one of the things I found weird about this thought. I've generally assumed that there was a fairly straightforward correlation of sensations, but in fact, it appears there's a lot of variety.

[Sweetie]

Oh now, now. That's rather consistent with your epistemological leanings, correct?

But I mean, get all the definitions and descriptions out on the table, plus the fact that there are several variations of three different types of orgasms, I think alot of the sensations are actually very similar, and then there's just a question of intensity.

Or were you speaking of male/female comparison?

[seebs]

The male/female one. Until this conversation, I hadn't remembered that chick in 8th grade, so I'd just assumed that, for instance, the head of the penis and the clit were pretty comparable sensation-wise... But apparently that's not true. Unless guys have the same wide range of sensory response.

[Sweetie]

You look like you're getting lucky in that picture!

Okay, just to reignite that one, I am interested to know .. can any women here reach orgasm without any sort of clitoral stimulation whatsoever?

By no clitoral stimulation you mean like no vaginal or clitoral stimulation right? Nipples too?

You're just asking can any woman here get off without any touchy at all?

[MooseIBe]

Sorry i was being unclear .. I mean, can any of you get off without having your clitoris stimulated in any way. Personally, it's the only way I can reach orgasm, so certain sexual positions are useless to me. Penetration alone would never, ever do it.

[Sweetie]

oic.

Yeah, I can get off without having my clitoris stimulated in any way. Depending on initial arousal, it could be quick or it could just take longer which leaves orgasm solely that way up to male stamina and that's not necessarily generally very reliable so........ :D

[MooseIBe]

LOL! well true :D. how do you do it though if you don't mind my asking? I mean, I can obviously get very aroused without clitoral stimulation but I can't go further than that.

[Crumb]

:popcorn:

[Sweetie]

LOL! well true :D. how do you do it though if you don't mind my asking? I mean, I can obviously get very aroused without clitoral stimulation but I can't go further than that.

It sounds like a question of a G-spot. I have one, a few inches up on the interior vaginal wall which is what stimulates internal orgasms.

It would be something you'd need I'd assume, in order to climax from just penetration alone. There's no trick to it, just a G-spot. :D

[MooseIBe]

Well I vaguely know where my G spot is and find it arousing to have it touched, but it doesn't cause an orgasm on its own :(. Maybe I am not doing it right. Or my bf isn't :D

[Crumb]

Maybe I am not doing it right. Or my bf isn't

Do you need me to come over and show him how it is done? :innocent:

[Bullet]

As far as I know, there are no cases of women being born without a clitoris! Maybe she just hadn't found it, I dunno?


Well if she can't find it, how the hell are we expected to find it??? :examine:

[Bullet]

I'm just lucky I guess. I can get LTR off with her clothes on. She has at least 3-4 big O's every encounter, an average of 5-6, but on special nights, I've given her as many as 16. And I give her all 3 kinds, and like to mix it up. Hey LTR, back me up here. Anyway, I am lucky she is not hard to please.

[LiveToRide]

I'm just lucky I guess. I can get LTR off with her clothes on. She has at least 3-4 big O's every encounter, an average of 5-6, but on special nights, I've given her as many as 16. And I give her all 3 kinds, and like to mix it up. Hey LTR, back me up here. Anyway, I am lucky she is not hard to please.
Luck has nothing to do with it. You turn me on just by walking into the room. But you make me sound like some kind of sex freak! And while I suppose that's true....wait....what was I saying?? Actually, it's the effort you put into it that makes me "easy to please." You figure out what it is that works on me and you do it over and over and over....and over....wait...what was I saying? When are you going to do that "clothes-on-and-in-public" trick again? 3 times doesn't mean you can do it EVERY time...:D
MooseIBe...someone is not doing something right if you don't get off when the bf hits your G-spot. I had never had an encounter where the guy found it until Bullet, and let me just say....holy....shit. Try this: He's on his back, you're on top, (obviously), but you lean back a bit so his dick is bent back a little, and pushing towards the front of you. Take your hand and press between your pubic bone and your belly button. It should cause the G-spot to make contact with his dick. It may take a few times of trying to figure out exactly how to work it, but it's SOOO worth it. Another thing to try, possibly alone, is a vibrator. Figure out where that spot is with that, then it will be easier to direct the bf to it when you're in bed.

[MooseIBe]

Maybe I am not doing it right. Or my bf isn't

Do you need me to come over and show him how it is done? :innocent:

No, but if you want to send me a first class ticket to Barbados, I could meet you there and you could show me how it was done :cool:

[MooseIBe]

LTR I will give what you say a try although alas, won't see him for at least another ten weeks :(. I think I know where it IS though .. it just doesn't do much.

Maybe I am abnormal :sadangel: :eeyore2:

[MooseIBe]

btw I'd just like to make it quite clear that I am not casting any aspersions on my bf's sexual performance at all because it's bloody marvellous :)

[Legs]

Luck has nothing to do with it. You turn me on just by walking into the room.


LTR... you never faked an "O"? not even once... not even one little tiny o?

[SharonDee]

LTR... you never faked an "O"? not even once... not even one little tiny o?Well, I can't speak for LTR but I faked an orgasm once--after adamantly refusing to do so for any man--because the guy just would NOT give up. This occurred during my brief promiscuous period from late '93 through early '95 while I was between husbands.

I'd made the mistake of telling him that orgasms were rare for me. Well, he apparently took this as a challenge to his manhood and thought he had something to prove. He just kept going and going and going and going and going at it, ignoring my pleas to knock it off already. I was drying up and the guy wouldn't relent. Finally, I faked an orgasm in self-defense. I told him so later, of course. He got no bragging rights off me. :D

I wonder whatever became of that guy...?

[Legs]

Finally, I faked an orgasm in self-defense. I told him so later, of course. He got no bragging rights off me. :D



rofl - I hope you broke it to him gently

I have faked just so I could get some sleep :D but I have never done the 'fake & tell'

[MooseIBe]

I try not to fake cos it's a bit mean but it is a pain when some guy things that he's not going to stop till you've come :D. Once or twice I've, I dunno, maybe managed to convince myself I was having one when I wasn't? :)