*plonk*?

[Corona688]

(anyone who had to look it up like me, here's plonk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk).)

Anyone else think the atmosphere here is changing? Feels like people are going into siege-mode. I'm probably among the most so, but I can't see what else to do.

[Dingfod]

Most apt to plonk are those in siege-defense mode, when they feel besieged. Plonking is a defensive posture, not one of attack. Stating that you are plonking someone is like sticking up a middle finger and saying "Just try to penetrate the defenses of my impenetrable fortress, asshole." Beats arguing, I guess.

[Corona688]

Most apt to plonk are those in siege-defense mode, when they feel besieged. Plonking is a defensive posture, not one of attack. I know what plonking is. I'm wondering what's changed here to make such armor necessary to discuss anything but smileys and green chili. No joke.

[beyelzu]

I dont know, I do not have nor have I ever had anyone on ignore.

alright vm that one time but he was being extra sanctimonious,

and for awhile, liv, while she was being a grammar nazi,

and legs' avatar cuz she was just too damn arousing

and godfry for being opinionated

and beth for being too goddamn nice

and pesci for being too fishlike

and latin for being a dipshit

and both warren and joep for being flippant

and blake for taking my fucking moon patrol title, one which I havent reclaimed for months now

and lunachick for going to see nick cave


and ronin for being such an agreeable cunt

and crumb for being so damn chipper


the point is everyone contributes something, latin and hill bunny are both just irritating cunts and I dont ignore people; I hardly see the point.

I find most people's little foibles quite endearing, and when I debate with people I learn. Even when I am being an aggressive dick, which is most of the time, I am still open to other's knowledge and point of view, while I have seen more ignoring of late, I just dont see the point of doing it.

[livius drusus]

Our post rate over the past 3 days has doubled. I suspect that might be a factor in the recent high spirits. Having said that, we front-loaded this forum with ignore features precisely because we expected tempers to flare (it's the nature of the discussion board beast, imo) and wouldn't have moderation to prune the fights.

I'm wondering what's changed here to make such armor necessary to discuss anything but smileys and green chili. No joke.

Hmm... I think you might be counting hits and not misses here, Corona. Remember you and Goliath, Goliath and a half-dozen other people, wade and Adora? We've had some ugly battles here in some ugly threads.

I've wished people would utilize our many and varied ignore features instead of bickering viciously many a time. Bring on the plonk, I say.

Oh, and the smilies and green chiles thing isn't quite accurate, Corona. There are exactly 4 threads with ugly sniping in them right now (death penalty, Microsoft, dumb rich kid and possibly the new pope, although that last one doesn't have any plonks that I know of and seems to have cooled down somewhat). We've got 60 threads active in the last 24 hours.

[viscousmemories]

There's a good discussion about plonking here (http://www.skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4241). I can't remember everything that came up in that thread, but I know I went from not being a fan of plonking to at least understanding why some people do it from that thread.

Edited to clarify: It's not the plonking I didn't understand, it's the telling people you're plonking them. I've always understood why people ignore other people, though I have never done it myself.

[wei yau]

I've been noticing the trend myself.

I suppose it's a natural outcome on a self-policed forum. I've no desire to see moderation and the like here at the FF, but I've been wondering about the whole concept of self-policing.

I tend to ignore being sucked into a fight even on a topic I feel strongly about. I try to respond courteously or not at all if I find that I cannot be civil.

But, I've seen a lot of things that bother me lately Others have tried to make peace, but I am reluctant to follow their lead.

Interjections calling for peace can be either ignored or actually fan the flame war even further. Sometimes, it might actually calm things down, but I am beginning to suspect this is a rarity.

Also, you run the risk of appearing like a "nanny", if you object too often.

So, I'm all for self-policing as an individual, but unsure of how to self-police as a community.

[beyelzu]

in the past I have found that if you are going to interject a calm down type post you have to have not been very involved in the thread, better in fact if you havent posted. it helps if the person you are asking to calm down actually gives a shit about what you think :tmgrin:

[Corona688]

Our post rate over the past 3 days has doubled. I suspect that might be a factor in the recent high spirits. Having said that, we front-loaded this forum with ignore features precisely because we expected tempers to flare (it's the nature of the discussion board beast, imo) and wouldn't have moderation to prune the fights. Absolutely. I am not complaining about the lack of moderation, there's just as much of it at places like iidb where they moderate the hell out of everything. I'm not complaining about the plonking either. I'm not complaining at all, I'm just trying to figure something out.I'm wondering what's changed here to make such armor necessary to discuss anything but smileys and green chili. No joke.

Hmm... I think you might be counting hits and not misses here, Corona. Remember you and Goliath, Goliath and a half-dozen other people, wade and Adora? We've had some ugly battles here in some ugly threads. Yes, we have. The level of ugliness that leads to plonking seems to be shrinking, though. I hope it's just seasonal, but somehow I doubt it's going to just go away.

[Corona688]

Edited to clarify: It's not the plonking I didn't understand, it's the telling people you're plonking them. good point to make, my OP wasn't about that. The only time I tell people when I'm plonking them is when I want to make it clear that they're NOT to try and contact me, sort of a 'leave me alone' sign.

[Dingfod]

When a person's argument is really weak or indefensible, it behooves that person to retreat to the castle keep to stave off the inevitable siege of their opponents. Like I was trying to say, it beats having arguments or debates that never rarely see any sort of resolution. I know I get tired of the same old arguments over and over again, whether it's about politics, libertarianism, religion, or what have you (the list is long).

[Cool Hand]

We've had some ugly battles here in some ugly threads.


Yeah, and I've been in some of them too. I share some responsibility for them, but I have left a few times simply because I got tired of being pummeled for stating my views. I can handle it for the most part, but at times it can feel like being gang-banged.


Bring on the plonk, I say.


It's probably just coincidence, and I don't wish to appear presumptuous, but I've used *plonk* two times in the last 24 hours here. I've been back here for about 24 hours now after a lengthy absence. Are my *plonkings* the impetus for this discussion?

There are exactly 4 threads with ugly sniping in them right now (death penalty, Microsoft, dumb rich kid and possibly the new pope, although that last one doesn't have any plonks that I know of and seems to have cooled down somewhat). We've got 60 threads active in the last 24 hours.

Ha ha. I'm in two of those ugly threads. Coincidence? I think not.

Seriously, I can't speak for others, but I plonked two posters because they were being dicks and had nothing of substance to say to me, but chose instead to make snide remarks and to insult me. I simply didn't wish to engage them and don't. For me, it's my way of giving them the finger. Fuck 'em.

CH

[Corona688]

When a person's argument is really weak or indefensible, it behooves that person to retreat to the castle keep to stave off the inevitable siege of their opponents. Like I was trying to say, it beats having arguments or debates that never rarely see any sort of resolution. I know I get tired of the same old arguments over and over again, whether it's about politics, libertarianism, religion, or what have you (the list is long). I'm sure that's one reason, but is it really the only one? Or did I just read that wrong?

[Corona688]

It's probably just coincidence, and I don't wish to appear presumptuous, but I've used *plonk* two times in the last 24 hours here. I've been back here for about 24 hours now after a lengthy absence. Are my *plonkings* the impetus for this discussion? Simply put, nope. I'm trying to look at the bigger picture.

[Dingfod]

Probably not the only one, but it's one that makes me plonk people for a while sometimes. I think it's why I tired of IIDB, it's the same old shit all the damn time.

[viscousmemories]

It's probably just coincidence, and I don't wish to appear presumptuous, but I've used *plonk* two times in the last 24 hours here. I've been back here for about 24 hours now after a lengthy absence. Are my *plonkings* the impetus for this discussion?
I'd be surprised if they didn't play a part, since I don't remember anyone saying that here before yesterday. :)

Not that people haven't announced their use of the ignore feature, just not using that word.

[beyelzu]

We've had some ugly battles here in some ugly threads.


Yeah, and I've been in some of them too. I share some responsibility for them, but I have left a few times simply because I got tired of being pummeled for stating my views. I can handle it for the most part, but at times it can feel like being gang-banged.


how exactly does it feel to be gang-banged?



Bring on the plonk, I say.


It's probably just coincidence, and I don't wish to appear presumptuous, but I've used *plonk* two times in the last 24 hours here. I've been back here for about 24 hours now after a lengthy absence. Are my *plonkings* the impetus for this discussion?
welcome back, cool hand,
they certainly seem to be involved but they also arent isolated to just you, a whole lot of ignoring is going on just now.


Seriously, I can't speak for others, but I plonked two posters because they were being dicks and had nothing of substance to say to me, but chose instead to make snide remarks and to insult me. I simply didn't wish to engage them and don't. For me, it's my way of giving them the finger. Fuck 'em.

CH
now this I so understand. but since I am not as mature as you, I would rather just make a post that said fuck you and then refuse to engage.

but hey, that's just me

[Cool Hand]

It's probably just coincidence, and I don't wish to appear presumptuous, but I've used *plonk* two times in the last 24 hours here. I've been back here for about 24 hours now after a lengthy absence. Are my *plonkings* the impetus for this discussion?
I'd be surprised if they didn't play a part, since I don't remember anyone saying that here before yesterday. :)

Not that people haven't announced their use of the ignore feature, just not using that word.

Ha. I've never used ignore or told someone I was putting them on ignore. I've *plonked* two people now in 3 1/2 years of internet forum participation. I just thought it seemed like a cool, succinct way of telling them to fuck off and I wouldn't be responding further. I'm just sick of trying to respond to mean bullshit. Meanness I can handle sometimes. Bullshit I can handle sometimes, but less so. Put 'em together and I see no point.

Well, anyway, that's just me.

CH

[godfry n. glad]

Ha ha. I'm in two of those ugly threads. Coincidence? I think not.

Seriously, I can't speak for others, but I plonked two posters because they were being dicks and had nothing of substance to say to me, but chose instead to make snide remarks and to insult me. I simply didn't wish to engage them and don't. For me, it's my way of giving them the finger. Fuck 'em.

CH

Why in the world should I even care? Cool Hand seems to be a dipshit that just can't live with the fact that everybody in his little world doesn't love him and everything he believes in. Knowing that he has plonked me, I can go about saying what I will about him and his and won't have to put up with his infantile responses.

I appreciate the notification that I've been *plonked*. It allows me to act accordingly. It's nice to know that a numbnuts like Cool Hand won't be interacting with me, too.

[Cool Hand]

It's probably just coincidence, and I don't wish to appear presumptuous, but I've used *plonk* two times in the last 24 hours here. I've been back here for about 24 hours now after a lengthy absence. Are my *plonkings* the impetus for this discussion? Simply put, nope. I'm trying to look at the bigger picture.

Thanks for clearing that up. Is there a bigger picture? I haven't really looked, but I haven't noticed one yet.

CH

[Cool Hand]

how exactly does it feel to be gang-banged?



Ha ha. Got me. I should be more careful with my words.



welcome back, cool hand,



Thanks, bey. You dickhead.


now this I so understand. but since I am not as mature as you, I would rather just make a post that said fuck you and then refuse to engage.

but hey, that's just me

Who are you calling mature?

CH

[Corona688]

Why in the world should I even care? Good question. Though it leaves me wondering why you brought up something you don't care about in a thread only peripherally related to it.

[viscousmemories]

Ha. I've never used ignore or told someone I was putting them on ignore. I've *plonked* two people now in 3 1/2 years of internet forum participation. I just thought it seemed like a cool, succinct way of telling them to fuck off and I wouldn't be responding further. I'm just sick of trying to respond to mean bullshit. Meanness I can handle sometimes. Bullshit I can handle sometimes, but less so. Put 'em together and I see no point.

Well, anyway, that's just me.

CH
Ohh... well see, you've misused the damn term. Not my fault. *Plonk* actually means putting someone in your killfile or on your ignore list. If you're just using it to tell people to fuck off then the whole balance of the Universe is thrown off and all sorts of possible outcomes might result from it. :)

[Corona688]

Thanks for clearing that up. Is there a bigger picture? I haven't really looked, but I haven't noticed one yet.

CH Definitely. I think it goes back longer than the last week, but the shit's hitting the fan now. There's also that thread with latinjral. More to the point, I've been finding that I've been doing more "silent" plonking myself and have suspected that others are acting similarly; apparently some are and some aren't.

[godfry n. glad]

Why in the world should I even care? Good question. Though it leaves me wondering why you brought up something you don't care about in a thread only peripherally related to it.

This thread is only peripherally related to plonking?

[JoeP]

Bey, I am never flippant. I am the epiphany of seriousness.

[Ensign Steve]

I am so broken-hearted that I didn't make bey's ignore list. :(

Anywho, I would never put someone on ignore, cuz I want to hear what they are saying, especially cuz they are probably saying shit about me!

[Corona688]

This thread is only peripherally related to plonking? This thread is only peripherally related to that particular feud.

[godfry n. glad]

This thread is only peripherally related to plonking? This thread is only peripherally related to that particular feud.

Okay... I'll repeat it slowly and amend it.

"Why...should...I...care...that...anyone...plonks...me?

Why...should...anyone...care...that...they...are...plonked?"

This thread is about plonking, is it not?

[pescifish]

I used to wonder why someone would feel compelled to announce to the world that they are *plonk*ing another poster. But I think I recently saw an instance of one poster continuing to try and engage someone who probably hadn't seen the first or second attempts; they were certainly being ignored! It seemed like perhaps the second poster had put the first on ignore and was, in fact, ignoring the first poster.

Announcing the *plonk* would serve to let the first poster get a clue as to why the posts were not getting the desired responses.


ETA: Corona688, I didn't know what *plonk* meant (although in context, it was pretty clear) and had to ask some folks in the chatroom last night.

[Dingfod]

Bey, I am never flippant. I am the epiphany of seriousness.Me too.



Wait a minute. Epiphany? Perhaps you meant epitome, like me. ESL classes aren't doing it for you, are they?


Oops. That was flippant.



Nevermind.

[pescifish]

Bey, I am never flippant. I am the epiphany of seriousness.Me too.



Wait a minute. Epiphany? Perhaps you meant epitome, like me. ESL classes aren't doing it for you, are they?I saw that epiphany and figured he was confusing this thread with the "/me Shaq Attack" conversation.

Interjecting a bit of religiousity to every thread. Those Three Kings were the epitome of Epiphany, especially since they weren't even the 3 wisemen, they were Hebrew children placed in the fire. Adore the Almighty, get burned but be saved and all that stuff!

And if that doesn't make sense, then I don't care, I'm lacking oxygen to the brain. Go ahead, *plonk* me!

[Dingfod]

No, pesci, no plonk. You made perfect sense.

[JoeP]

Allah grant me the strength to avoid flippancy in future...

[viscousmemories]

This thread is only peripherally related to plonking? This thread is only peripherally related to that particular feud.

Okay... I'll repeat it slowly and amend it.

"Why...should...I...care...that...anyone...plonks...me?

Why...should...anyone...care...that...they...are...plonked?"

This thread is about plonking, is it not?
I'm sorry if there's any confusion about the subject of the thread as a result of my mistaking it for a discussion of announcing plonking, rather than just being a discussion about plonking in general.

To answer you're question: I would personally prefer to know if someone has me on ignore so I don't waste my time engaging them. :shrug:

[Dingfod]

What did he say?

[JoeP]

Once upon a time, in a kingdom far from here, there was an advert
for Anadins, I think, soluble headache tablets
that had the tagline "plonk plonk fizz". It led to this joke:

Q: what goes "plonk plonk fizz"?
twins in an acid bath

<span title="OK, it might have been 'plink'. (I bet no one sees this hovertext.)">...</span>

[lisarea]

What did he say?

He said you suck.

[Bullet]

I *plonk*, oh do I *plonk*. But it is usually a last resort. If I dish it out, I should take it in. I try anyway. But when someone has nothing to offer a discussion but selfrighteuos incesant bitching and ranting with a holier than thou attitude and is irratating as all holy hell and has the persoanlity of a veneral desease, :blowtop: or takes topics way off course, they get the *plonk*. To me it's better than getting into a pissing match where we both look inmature.

I have 2 on my list. One is described above, the other, her bum in soiled armor. But I knew them from another forum, and they really pushed my buttons over there, so to prevent this here, I use the ignore option. It's my weakness that I can't just not let them get to me. I hate taking shit. But acknowledging that, I've prevented my weakness from being extorted. I guess it could be called self policing. :copno:

[beyelzu]

he who?

[Dingfod]

What did he say?

He said you suck.Cool.

Bullet, I'd bet money you've been *plonk*ed more than you've *plonk*ed.

[Bullet]

Bullet, I'd bet money you've been *plonk*ed more than you've *plonk*ed.You're probobly right, but that's just because I'm an asshole. :woohoo: But at least you did'nt. Now I'm happy. See, being an asshole again, sorry. :beaugest:

[Bullet]

Warrenly, that is the ugliest avatar I've ever seen. Who is that guy?

[Ensign Steve]

:roflmao:

It's funny cuz it's true!

[godfry n. glad]

This thread is only peripherally related to plonking? This thread is only peripherally related to that particular feud.

Okay... I'll repeat it slowly and amend it.

"Why...should...I...care...that...anyone...plonks...me?

Why...should...anyone...care...that...they...are...plonked?"

This thread is about plonking, is it not?
I'm sorry if there's any confusion about the subject of the thread as a result of my mistaking it for a discussion of announcing plonking, rather than just being a discussion about plonking in general.

To answer you're question: I would personally prefer to know if someone has me on ignore so I don't waste my time engaging them. :shrug:

Yeah... as I stated earlier in this thread:

I appreciate the notification that I've been *plonked*. It allows me to act accordingly. It's nice to know that a numbnuts like Cool Hand won't be interacting with me, too.

As an aside, it also allows the plonkee to make all sorts of disparaging remarks about the plonker and the plonker remains oblivious. Fun, huh?

[Dingfod]

Bullet, I'd bet money you've been *plonk*ed more than you've *plonk*ed.You're probobly right, but that's just because I'm an asshole. :woohoo: But at least you did'nt. Now I'm happy. See, being an asshole again, sorry. :beaugest:My grandpa always said "Do what you're good at."


Warrenly, that is the ugliest avatar I've ever seen. Who is that guy?Who are you calling ugly? That is Ian McShane as Al Swearengen of Deadwood, the baddest, meanest cocksucker in the camp.

[viscousmemories]

As an aside, it also allows the plonkee to make all sorts of disparaging remarks about the plonker and the plonker remains oblivious. Fun, huh?
If that's your idea of fun. :P

[livius drusus]

As an aside, it also allows the plonkee to make all sorts of disparaging remarks about the plonker and the plonker remains oblivious. Fun, huh?

Not if you happen to give a shit about the quality of discussion on the forum, no.

[Dingfod]

vm and liv, I'm so sorry for what's happened to your forum. Perhaps you should *plonk* me.

[Bullet]

:roflmao:

[Dingfod]

Well, they would, but I'm already on Ignore.

[livius drusus]

vm and liv, I'm so sorry for what's happened to your forum. Perhaps you should *plonk* me.
I'll just sick the Pinkertons on you, cocksucker.

[Dingfod]

Surely there's someone I can pay off instead.

[viscousmemories]

I never plonk on the first date.

[Corona688]

This thread is only peripherally related to plonking? This thread is only peripherally related to that particular feud.

Okay... I'll repeat it slowly and amend it.

"Why...should...I...care...that...anyone...plonks...me?

Why...should...anyone...care...that...they...are...plonked?"

This thread is about plonking, is it not? My apologies. I figured those questions were either rhetorical or directed at another user.

Why should anyone care that they are plonked? I won't go there. I'm not everybody.

Why could anyone care that they are plonked? I'm posting messages on a bulletin board so that other people can read and respond to them, and hopefully find them interesting or useful in some way. If I didn't care whether people read them or not I wouldn't bother posting in the first place. If people plonk me, my effort is wasted on that person. Someone I didn't give a shit about plonking me wouldn't bother me, someone I respected plonking me might bother me.

But that's just me. If one doesn't care whether one's posts are read or not they wouldn't care whether they get plonked or not, but then, I wouldn't understand the motivation for posting in the first place.

[godfry n. glad]

As an aside, it also allows the plonkee to make all sorts of disparaging remarks about the plonker and the plonker remains oblivious. Fun, huh?

Not if you happen to give a shit about the quality of discussion on the forum, no.

You can't have a discussion with a numbnuts who won't even communicate with you 'cause he don't like what you say.

So... Nothing lost, right? Doing what I suggest will have absolutely no impact upon the quality of discussion.

[Corona688]

So... Nothing lost, right? Doing what I suggest will have absolutely no impact upon the quality of discussion. It makes your posts difficult to untangle, for one thing. Clutters up the thread. It also paints you in a bad light, giving the impression that maybye there was -- or is -- a good reason to plonk you. You obviously don't care what your plonker thinks, but everyone else can still read your posts.

[livius drusus]

Corona is very smart and I agree with everything he says. :yup:

[viscousmemories]

So... Nothing lost, right? Doing what I suggest will have absolutely no impact upon the quality of discussion.
I agree with Corona. Also I just generally think that calling people names and smearing their character--whether they can read it or not--degrades the quality of discussions for everyone who doesn't enjoy watching people treat each other like shit. It also makes people who enjoy interacting with both people feel like they need to take a side or be seen to favor one or the other. It's just all around bullshit, imo. Playground bullying behavior that I think most of us are way too old to engage in.

[Corona688]

Corona is very smart and I agree with everything he says. :yup:I agree with Corona.
/me can't find a 'payoff' smiley, so does the exchange of money in text instead

[Bullet]

*plonk*plonk* :sex: *plonk*plonk* That's the same noise my headboard makes when it hit the wall.

[beyelzu]

It also makes people who enjoy interacting with both people feel like they need to take a side or be seen to favor one or the other. .
and also, it makes me wonder about why two people who I like and seem to like or at least tolerate me dont like each other in the extreme. I find it confusing, baffling even.

[Ensign Steve]

It will do you well to realize and accept that all your friends don't have to like each other (online and irl). It can suck, but there's not much we can do about it. Just think of it as a positive character trait in you, that you can attract and retain friendships with diverse personality types.

[viscousmemories]

Of course it could also mean that you're indiscriminate. :D

[Ensign Steve]

You say that like it's a bad thing. :?

[viscousmemories]

You say that like it's a bad thing. :?
I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[Crumb]

* Corona688 can't find a 'payoff' smiley, so does the exchange of money in text instead

:spend:

I don't ignore people either. There certainly could be circumstances that might get me to do so, but so far they have never occured. I am easy to get along with, but apparently I am too "chipper" :rolleye1: So I guess that could get me in trouble in the future.

[Dingfod]

[Darth Vader voice]Crumb! I am your father. Come to the dark side.[/Darth Vader voice]

[Crumb]

That's it Warrenly! I've had it!

*plonk*

[Dingfod]

I feel loved.

[Crumb]

I feel loved.

Darnit, it didn't work! :(

[koan]

I have no idea what you are all talking about. :innocent: :D

[Bullet]

:roflmao: :haha: :lmao: :thescream::

[beyelzu]

* Corona688 can't find a 'payoff' smiley, so does the exchange of money in text instead

:spend:

I don't ignore people either. There certainly could be circumstances that might get me to do so, but so far they have never occured. I am easy to get along with, but apparently I am too "chipper" :rolleye1: So I guess that could get me in trouble in the future.
it almost certainly will.

[xouper]

My reasons for plonking someone are pretty much the same as Cool Hand's. It's a fine usenet tradition. The plonkee has crossed the line and is being a fuckwit and I choose not to waste any more of my time being drawn into their bullshit pissing contests.

The reason for announcing a plonk is a courtesy for everyone else that I am deliberately choosing to stop responding to the plonkee. Otherwise the lurkers might mistakenly think my failure to respond is an implied concession of the "argument", which of course I am doing no such thing.

[koan]

what's the point of ignore when I still get notified of the post by email? oh, well, I'm a big girl, I think I can handle it.

[Gurdur]

At the rate people are plonking threads or others here, soon you're going to have the most peaceful board around.
:popcorn:

[viscousmemories]

what's the point of ignore when I still get notified of the post by email? oh, well, I'm a big girl, I think I can handle it.
Good question. I'll see if I can find a way to fix that issue.

[godfry n. glad]

At the rate people are plonking threads or others here, soon you're going to have the most peaceful board around.
:popcorn:

It's a *plonk*-out!

Y'know, I tried *plonk*ing and, well... I just didn't find it satisfying.

I do appreciate the announcement of the *plonk*, though. That allows me to tailor my subsequent posts accordingly (address the audience, not the poster). I think it an odd courtesy.

By the way... If you know that somebody is...on*plonk*???... you can get the *plonk*er the *plonk*ee's content by reposting it as a quote. Of course, you have to be off*plonk* yourself to do so.

Fun, huh?

<cue circus music>

This is the aspect of this board which has always fascinated me. This could end up a collection of closed cliques.

(y'know, Pesci, your way is much better, but it's such a pain to key in all those *, and I'm a lazy ol' fart)

[pescifish]

In case anyone missed this...
And don't worry about context, godfry's statements stand on their own as pure and obvious truths:

(y'know, Pesci, your way is much better, ... Well, it's about damned time someone realized this!

(...but it's such a pain ...) Price of perfection, baby! It's a curse, a monkey on my back, a pain in the ass, but, ya know, I gots to do things as I sees 'em. I'm a giver, really I am, even when it hurts.

[godfry n. glad]

:giggle:

Yer dawgdamned right it hurts!

....hunting fer the fukken * key allatime. sheeh...

[Dingfod]

My reasons for plonking someone are pretty much the same as Cool Hand's. It's a fine usenet tradition. The plonkee has crossed the line and is being a fuckwit and I choose not to waste any more of my time being drawn into their bullshit pissing contests.

The reason for announcing a plonk is a courtesy for everyone else that I am deliberately choosing to stop responding to the plonkee. Otherwise the lurkers might mistakenly think my failure to respond is an implied concession of the "argument", which of course I am doing no such thing.It just appears that you do not wish to defend your side of the "argument", to me anyway. Don't feel bad, I'm there a lot too.

[xouper]

warrenly: It just appears that you do not wish to defend your side of the "argument", to me anyway.
Appearances can sometimes be deceiving. I don't plonk someone because I don't want to defend my argument. I only plonk people who are being assholes, and then sometimes not even then.

You gotta be a special kind of asshole before I will plonk you. :bonk:

[Dingfod]

You mean I'm not special enough?

[viscousmemories]

This is the aspect of this board which has always fascinated me. This could end up a collection of closed cliques.

/me cues the After School Special music.

Here's a couple cliques I can think of off the top of my head:

1. The people who maximize use of the personal moderation tools we've provided to make the forum experience the best it can be for themselves and everyone else.

and

2. The people who make every effort to circumvent the moderation tools we've provided to make the forum experience as miserable as possible for everyone they don't like.

Which clique are you going to choose?

[godfry n. glad]

This is the aspect of this board which has always fascinated me. This could end up a collection of closed cliques.

* viscousmemories cues the After School Special music.

Here's a couple cliques I can think of off the top of my head:

1. The people who maximize use of the personal moderation tools we've provided to make the forum experience the best it can be for themselves and everyone else.

and

2. The people who make every effort to circumvent the moderation tools we've provided to make the forum experience as miserable as possible for everyone they don't like.

Which clique are you going to choose?

/me cues the Romper Room music

What do you think? :choices:

[godfry n. glad]

It also makes people who enjoy interacting with both people feel like they need to take a side or be seen to favor one or the other. .
and also, it makes me wonder about why two people who I like and seem to like or at least tolerate me dont like each other in the extreme. I find it confusing, baffling even.

Yeah... I know what you mean. It is baffling. Perhaps Khiron has been 'round?

[viscousmemories]

You probably know what I think. :P

But seriously that was more a general 'you' as a 'you, godfry'. Not to mention an intentionally maudlin plea for cooperation from everyone. I know people aren't going to all get along, I just hope everyone remembers that without moderation we're only going to get as much quality out of interactions around here as everyone puts into them.

[viscousmemories]

Yeah... I know what you mean. It is baffling. Perhaps Khiron has been 'round?
Hmm...

What's that mean? I've been wondering why Khiron hasn't been around much in the last few months. Did I miss some drama or something? :chin:

[godfry n. glad]

You probably know what I think. :P

But seriously that was more a general 'you' as a 'you, godfry'. Not to mention an intentionally maudlin plea for cooperation from everyone. I know people aren't going to all get along, I just hope everyone remembers that without moderation we're only going to get as much quality out of interactions around here as everyone puts into them.

Do be a do bee!

:roflmao:

[godfry n. glad]

Yeah... I know what you mean. It is baffling. Perhaps Khiron has been 'round?
Hmm...

What's that mean? I've been wondering why Khiron hasn't been around much in the last few months. Did I miss some drama or something? :chin:

It meant nothing other than boggling...we were all boggled. I know next to nothing about Khiron other than that.

Heavens, you're not trying to read things into my text, are you? :D

[koan]

A quick poem (not my best) written with pen in mouth as I sat on my hands.

what is a waste of my time?
to banter with some feeble minds?
yet it serves as a poignant reminder
that some people must be treated kinder

that their lives have shaped them this way
is not a sign of the world gone astray
it's not my curse or my cross to bear
that some heads are just filled with hot air


why do i smile and say to hi/ to people who i'd much rather kick in the eye?
-morrisey

[viscousmemories]

It meant nothing other than boggling...we were all boggled. I know next to nothing about Khiron other than that.

Heavens, you're not trying to read things into my text, are you? :D
Ohh... right. I forgot about his boggling thing. :doh:

[godfry n. glad]

It also makes people who enjoy interacting with both people feel like they need to take a side or be seen to favor one or the other.
and also, it makes me wonder about why two people who I like and seem to like or at least tolerate me dont like each other in the extreme. I find it confusing, baffling even.

Yeah... I know what you mean. It is baffling. Perhaps Khiron has been 'round?

On another note, I've found that almost everyone has a shitlist. Some are long, some are short. Even the most surprising of people can have a shitlist. Why should it be so surprising who is on that shitlist?

(quoting myself...is that sad, or what?)

[viscousmemories]

I don't have a shitlist. I'm full of patience and love for all mankind. :squeeze:

[Dingfod]

And I've only got one on my list, and it's not you, vm.

[viscousmemories]

And I've only got one on my list, and it's not you, vm.
:qex:
:burns:

[Dingfod]

Well, to come right out with it, it's name begins with the initials latinijral. He's not *plonk*ed though, just on my shitlist.

[viscousmemories]

Well, to come right out with it, it's name begins with the initials latinijral. He's not *plonk*ed though, just on my shitlist.
I don't understand that fascination, really. I got bored with and stopped following that thread after the first few pages. He might have some interesting things to say, but across four forums over two years I've only ever seen him talk about pedophilia and James Randi... and I was sick of that discussion two years ago.

[Dingfod]

I don't know what it is, but I so rarely have as much fun as I do when addressing Mexican Penis Hat Man.

[Crumb]

I don't know what it is, but I so rarely have as much fun as I do when addressing Mexican Penis Hat Man.

You need to get out more Warrenly. Oh and make sure a certain wave doesn't read this.

[Dingfod]

True enough.

[Ensign Steve]

You're missing out, vm. There are some pretty fucking funny posts in that thread, including worn's.

As for myself, I have a shitlist that is as long as the ocean is deep. If you think you're on it, you probably are. Except worn. He's not usually on it.

[Crumb]

:( I'm on JD's shit list...

[Ensign Steve]

:dump:

[godfry n. glad]

Well, to come right out with it, it's name begins with the initials latinijral. He's not *plonk*ed though, just on my shitlist.

Oh...*plonk*list and shitlist need not be one and the same. If I put all those on my shitlist on*plonk*, I wouldn't know what the snivelling little turds were whining about, now would I? :

As noted, I used the *plonk* once, to turn down the static for a while, but ultimately it was unsatisfying. Sniping is much more fun.

[livius drusus]

Sigh...

[Gurdur]

Hey, everyone needs a hobby. Plonking or being plonked.
My hobby is cherry trees at the moment -- buying some more branchless cherry trees, now that I have the 4 branchless apple varieties and 5 branching apple varieties.

After that: plums !
Today my garden, tomorrow the world.

[godfry n. glad]

:shufflesfeet

Aw...gee... I gotta behave? :calvin:

(ps...see AspenMama's user title)

[godfry n. glad]

Hey, everyone needs a hobby. Plonking or being plonked.
My hobby is cherry trees at the moment -- buying some more branchless cherry trees, now that I have the 4 branchless apple varieties and 5 branching apple varieties.

After that: plums !
Today my garden, tomorrow the world.

Uh... "branchless"?

I'm imaginging stumps growing up to 5' or so and producing fruit off the stump. Please tell me this ain't so.

It's a nasty morning today, so I can't garden. Just as well, considering my back is out.

Hey... Last night was full moon, wasn't it? Can we write all this *plonk*ing off on that?

[Gurdur]

Uh... "branchless"?
I'm imaginging stumps growing up to 5' or so and producing fruit off the stump. Please tell me this ain't so.
The fruit grows directly off the trunk, which can grow to 2.5 metres tall or even 3, if not cut.

These small trees are really something -- they take up very little horizontal room, and are really good because of that --- you can plant them very close to each other. They bear well, too.
Here are some pics (not mine, these are off the seller's website):

http://81.173.203.7/products/preview/41920.jpg ___http://81.173.203.7/products/preview/42528.jpg

Hey... Last night was full moon, wasn't it?

I must howl. I actually like to howl at the moon every now and then from the top turret window of my house when it's spring and summer.
It keeps my neighbours respectful of me, I've noticed.

And yes, I am telling the exact truth. :yup:

[Dingfod]

You're missing out, vm. There are some pretty fucking funny posts in that thread, including worn's.

As for myself, I have a shitlist that is as long as the ocean is deep. If you think you're on it, you probably are. Except worn. He's not usually on it.You edging closer to being on mine for calling me worn.

[Ensign Steve]

And yes, I am telling the exact truth. :yup:

Nobody doubted that for a second.

[Dingfod]

Sigh...You too.

[viscousmemories]

*plonk*

[Dingfod]

*plonk* you too.

[pescifish]

I must howl. I actually like to howl at the moon every now and then from the top turret window of my house when it's spring and summer.
It keeps my neighbours respectful of me, I've noticed.

/me is jealous of anyone who actually has a turret.

That howling thing sounds fun! :werewolf:

[Gurdur]

Thanks, Pesci & Ensign Steve. It actually is fun.
I found out also, from a neighbour I hadn't met before, that I am not only famous for that but also famous for occasionally singing (during the day) when I work up the ladder or on scaffolding on the house & factory.

Yes, I do sing in tune. Baritone or bass.

[livius drusus]

My boss grew some of those branchless apple trees and was wildly successful. This is a man who literally never cooks. He subsists entirely on fast food (Church's chicken and Krystal burgers, mainly). Those little apple trees are his sole source of genuine nutrition and he swears by them.

[Gurdur]

Come the oil depletion crisis, I'll be laughing. :yup: