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John Carter
08-17-2005, 01:40 AM
I've mentioned WIll and Ariel Durant's monumental 11 volume history a couple of times, but nobody responded, and I get the feeling that this work is not very well known by the members here. If so, this is a real shame. It was 50 years in the writing, and from a purely literary perspective it is well worth the read.

Durant was a true renaissance man; he taught Latin, French, English and Geometry at Seton hall before attending Columbia in Ph.D. programs in Biology, Psycology and Philosophy. He eventually graduated with a doctorate in Philosophy.

His approach is what Durant called "integral" history. From the preface to the first volume:


I have tried in this book to accomplish the first part of a pleasant assignment which I rashly laid upon myself some 20 years ago, to write a history of civilization. I wish to tell as much as I can, in as little space as I can, of the contributions that genius and labor have made to the cultural heritage of mankind - to chronicle and contemplate, in their causes, character and effects, the advances of invention, the varieties of economic organization, the experiments in government, the aspirations of religion, the mutations of morals and manners, the masterpieces of literature, the development of science, the wisdom of philosophy and the achievements of art. I do not need to be told how absurd this enterprise is, or how immodest is its very conception, for many years of effort have brought it to but a fifth of its completion and have made it clear that no one mind, and no single lifetime, can adequately compass this task. Nevertheless I have dreamed that, despite the many errors inevitable in this undertaking, it may be of some use to those upon whom the passion for philosophy has laid the compulsion to try and see things whole, to pursue perspective, unity and understanding through history in time, as well as to seek them through science in space.

I have long felt that our usual method of writing history in separate longitudinal sections -- economic history, political history, religious history, the history of philosophy, the history of literature, the history of science, the history of music, the history of art -- does injustice to the unity of human life; that history should be written collaterally as well as lineally, synthetically as well as analytically; and that the ideal historiography would seek to portray in each period the total complex of a nation's culture, institutions, adventures and ways. But the accumulation of knowledge has divided history, like science, into a thousand isolated specialties, and prudent scholars have refrained from attempting any view of the whole -- whether of the material or of the living past of our race. For the probability of error increases with the scope of the undertaking, and any man who sells his soul to synthesis will be a tragic target for a myriad merry darts of specialist critique. "Consider," said Ptah-hotep 5,000 years ago, "how thou mayest be opposed by an expert in council. It is foolish to speak on every kind of work." A history of civilization shares the presumptuousness of every philosophical enterprise: It offers the ridiculous spectacle of a fragment expounding the whole. Like philosophy, such a venture has no rational excuse and is at best but a brave stupidity, but let us hope that, like philosophy, it will always lure some rash spirits into its fatal depths.


This first volume is called Our Oriental Heritage and covers Asia from the beginnings (as known at the time) to Gandhi and Chiang Kai-Shek. Also from the preface to this volume (published in 1935):


At this historic moment -- when the ascendancy of Europe is so rapidly coming to an end, when Asia is swelling with resurrected life, and the theme of the 20th century seems destined to be an all-embracing conflict between the East and the West -- the provincialism of our traditional histories, which began with Greece and summed up Asia in a line, has become no merely academic error, but a possibly fatal failure of perspective and intelligence. The future faces into the Pacific, and understanding must follow it there.


The next volume called The Life of Greece continues Durant's integral method. He explains:


I wish to see and feel this complex culture not only in the subtle and impersonal rhythm of its rise and fall, but in the rich variety of its vital elements: its ways of drawing a living from the land and of organizing industry and trade; its experiments with monarchy, aristocracy, democracy, dictatorship and revolution; its manners and morals; its religious practices and beliefs; its education of children and its regulation of the sexes and the family; its poems and temples, markets and theaters and athletic fields; its poetry and drama; its painting, sculpture, architecture and music; its sciences and inventions; its superstitions and philosophy. I wish to see and feel these elements, not in their theoretical and scholastic isolation, but in their living interplay as the simultaneous movement of one great cultural organism, with a hundred organs and a hundred million cells, but with one body and one soul.


Durant originally envisioned a work of 5 volumes, but it soon became apparent that it would take more, much more. He continued to apply his integral approach to each succeding period. The volume on the Middle Ages, called The Age of Faith includes over 200 pages of Islamic culture, and 3 chapters on Jewish experience.

I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

maddog
08-17-2005, 05:58 AM
My parents bought a set, of which I now have possession. I have always felt a little daunted at reading the thing, but I just love the idea of having such a sweeping overview, esp. with the inclusion of "our oriental heritage," which is so often overlooked in history survey courses. I have read Will Durant's "The Story of Philosophy," which was an excellent read, but I find myself just too seive-brained to retain what he so carefully explains about the different thinkers.
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John Carter
08-17-2005, 07:23 AM
Yeah, it is pretty big. Enormous, in fact. But each volume can stand alone, and even though the total work comes in at well over 10,000 pages, it is not necessary to read every word. He has more esoteric, and what he considers less important passages in a smaller font, that can be safely skipped without losing the flow of the narrative.

I haven't read The Story of Philosophy, though it is on my list. When it was originally published in 1926, Durant expected it to sell maybe 1000 copies or so, and the publisher expected something a little more, but not much, around 1500 copies sold. It sold over 2,000,000 copies, and provided Durant with the financial wherewithal to tackle The Story of Civilization.

SharonDee
08-17-2005, 07:08 PM
Those excerpts certainly paint a tantalizing picture! Now I have something to search the library for the next time I visit. :study:

lisarea
08-17-2005, 10:21 PM
I have this, and I've read little bits, here and there, in dribs and drabs. IOW, I generally treat it as more of a reference than a straight narrative, and it holds up pretty well as such. Although it probably works as an unusually daunting narrative, too. There have been a few times it came in really handy, because my knowledge of history has some embarassing gaps.

Although I should add that it's somewhere in the garage right now, probably behind some gigantic pile of someone else's life detritus, so it's been quite a while.

viscousmemories
08-18-2005, 01:28 AM
It sounds fascinating, but I haven't even finished ploughing through the Cartoon History of the Universe I've been working on for a year, so I doubt I could get through this. :blush:

MonCapitan2002
08-21-2005, 05:25 PM
This series sounds interesting. Is it still in print?

lisarea
08-21-2005, 06:07 PM
This series sounds interesting. Is it still in print?

I'm pretty sure I've seen the individual volumes in paperback, sold as discrete books. So they'll be called "Our Oriental Heritage" or "The Age of Voltaire" or whatever without reference to the volume number.

If you wanted to get a complete, intact set, though, you could probably find it used on abebooks.

FreeToThink
08-23-2005, 09:33 PM
I have owned the complete hardcover set of Durant's "The Story of Civilization" for about 23 years. At one time a monthly book club was offering the set as an inducement to join their club and I thought that was amazing (still do) and signed up and requested the set as my bonus prize. I regret to say that I have not completely read the whole series cover to cover, but what I have read is such interesting information I've always found it hard to put down when I had the time to get into it. Thanks for mentioning it, I feel motivated to drag one down from the shelf and get lost in it for awhile. Durant also wrote a small book later called I believe "The Lessons of History", which I purchased at a later date. It's a very worthwhile read.

viscousmemories
08-25-2005, 06:42 AM
:welcome: to the FF, FreeToThink.

Shake
08-25-2005, 07:47 PM
I think my father owns some Durant, though I couldn't say what exactly. Dad's a big history buff, with a major interest in the US Civil War, but enjoys discussing all sorts of history and bringing it into discussions whenever he can.

Reading your first excerpt above, John, got me to thinking of the interconnectedness of things, and why I loved things like Burke's Connections. That sort of thing gives you just a glimpse of how advances in one area fuel advances in seemingly unrelated areas. Culture, science, medicine, politics, technology are all intertwined to an extent that most people don't realize.

Early on, I got into American history, and it seems to be a strong focus of US (public) schools. So, when I got to college and took some courses in European history, I began to see how things in various parts of the world affected one another and also to realize some of what Durant talks about in your quotes above. The fragmenting of history into the various disciplines makes some things seem odd to us now, because they may be taken out of context with respect to the culture or political views, etc. of a given time. Those aren't factors to be entirely left out.

I see I'll have to make time at some point to read some Durant.

godfry n. glad
08-26-2005, 07:41 PM
My brother managed to obtain one of those bookclub sets of the entire series for a mere dollar per volume ($11) as a special offer. I consider that one of the best deals I've ever heard of....and they don't give that offer any longer.

That said, I made my way through several of the volumes and found the writing style to be relatively engaging...I'd say even for the layperson (the typical non-history reader). I, too, tend to use it as a reference text when I stumble into areas in which I'm not particularly conversant.

All in all, it is a worthy addition to any collection of a history reader.

Shake
08-30-2005, 09:52 PM
Dad says he not only owns, but has read, the entire set. That fact has shocked some people he's told -- those being the type that may own it, but have probably barely cracked open any of them. He mentioned that Durant has a strong bias -- not surprising to find a bias after reading so much of one author -- for vegetarians of all things. :scratch: I found that rather odd.