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erimir
09-29-2005, 06:04 PM
Maybe this won't go anywhere, and I'll end up looking stupid for doing this, but this a thread where you post sexy and/or nude clad pics of yourself. You don't have to be nude, or in underwear, but you have to be either in a sexy pose, scantily clad or nude.

As a show of good faith, so that I don't appear to be merely interested in looking and not posting, I'll go first... here's me in some boxer briefs in my dorm:

http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/Undies%203.jpg

btw, is there any way to attach a photo AND get it to show up in the main body of a post?

viscousmemories
09-29-2005, 06:21 PM
btw, is there any way to attach a photo AND get it to show up in the main body of a post?
Not at present. You can also post images in the gallery (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/gallery/index.php?), though.

Waluigi
09-29-2005, 06:27 PM
Sorry, I can't compete with the opening post. I had a flat stomach once, too. :( No one here would really want to see me in my underwear nowadays. :yes!:

Johnny Pneumatic
09-29-2005, 06:42 PM
Maybe this won't go anywhere, and I'll end up looking stupid for doing this, but this a thread where you post sexy and/or nude clad pics of yourself. You don't have to be nude, or in underwear, but you have to be either in a sexy pose, scantily clad or nude.


Uh, you don't want to see me nude, or maybe you do....

erimir
09-29-2005, 06:55 PM
No, you're right, I don't. heh :P

Sorry, I can't compete with the opening post. I had a flat stomach once, too. :( No one here would really want to see me in my underwear nowadays. :yes!:

And I will admit to tightening my stomach in that pic, so that you don't feel *too* bad. Not that it normally sticks out much.

Just as a random note, my REAL name is Mario. So, uh... you're my brother's nemesis, I guess.

Dingfod
09-29-2005, 07:50 PM
And I, Wario, are yours. And no, I'm not going to post pictures because I don't want to scare anyone off their feed.

godfry n. glad
09-29-2005, 07:55 PM
You do know what the biggest impediment to sex after age 50 is, don't you?

Well, if you don't, it's nudity.

'Nuff said.

Waluigi
09-29-2005, 08:00 PM
And I will admit to tightening my stomach in that pic, so that you don't feel *too* bad. Not that it normally sticks out much.
Aha! I used to be able to suck in my gut, too. Now I'm trying to figure out where this 20 lbs came from and how the hell to get rid of it. :glare:

Just as a random note, my REAL name is Mario. So, uh... you're my brother's nemesis, I guess.
That gives me a sig idea...

On a related note, have you seen these things yet? :drmario: :ppeach: :luigi: :mario: :wario: :yoshi: :waluigi: :1upmush: :toadguy: :bobomb2:

Crikey, there are a lot of smilies on these forums!

JoeP
09-29-2005, 08:38 PM
Crikey, there are a lot of smilies on these forums!
Now you notice.

Legs
09-29-2005, 08:50 PM
See my avatar

viscousmemories
09-29-2005, 08:53 PM
See my avatar
Ditto.

Shake
09-29-2005, 09:56 PM
Sorry, I can't compete with the opening post. I had a flat stomach once, too. :( No one here would really want to see me in my underwear nowadays. :yes!:
^^^ yeah, that. Although, my legs aren't bad.

erimir
09-29-2005, 11:22 PM
Aw, you guys are no fun.

At least if they're not sexy, they might be humorous :P

Trojan
09-30-2005, 03:31 AM
I remember those lean torso days Erimir! Enjoy them! One day you'll wake up and be 37 and 20 pounds heavier!!

Veritas
09-30-2005, 03:44 AM
I have an interesting photo taken of a ladyfriend of mine the other day. Yes, alcohol and bedsharing were involved...(But it's dishonourable to post photos of people who aren't present to defend themselves).

Trojan
09-30-2005, 03:47 AM
I have an interesting photo taken of a ladyfriend of mine the other day. Yes, alcohol and bedsharing were involved...(But it's dishonourable to post photos of people who aren't present to defend themselves).
You have my permission to post them. :super:

Veritas
09-30-2005, 03:57 AM
She's a party guest this Saturday so y'all may want to hold off 'til more alcohol is consumed. Last party I went to, clothes were lost. Well, a guy took off his shirt and had his trainers nicked...

Still. It might make for some interesting photos this weekend. :partyhat: :frolic: :lookporn:

:djparty:

Trojan
09-30-2005, 04:11 AM
She's a party guest this Saturday so y'all may want to hold off 'til more alcohol is consumed. Last party I went to, clothes were lost. Well, a guy took off his shirt and had his trainers nicked...

Still. It might make for some interesting photos this weekend. :partyhat: :frolic: :lookporn:

:djparty:

:woohoo: Keep that camera handy! :pimpin:

D. Scarlatti
09-30-2005, 04:28 AM
This thread should be sued for misrepresentation and deceit. It says "sexy pics" but all there is is a guy in his underwear and yet another in a continuing series of unseemly threats by SkepticJ to expose his penis.

erimir
09-30-2005, 09:37 AM
And yet you declined to post any pics yourself.

I wasn't going to go right away and post something more lewd than that, cuz I'd end up looking more stupid than I do right now since I'm the only one who posted anything.

Godless Dave
09-30-2005, 12:06 PM
OK, but remember, you asked for it.

(and it will stretch the browser window, sorry)

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~teeg0011/images/fatguy.jpg

Adora
09-30-2005, 12:48 PM
They're some fine rocks you got yerself there. Where was it taken?

D. Scarlatti
09-30-2005, 01:58 PM
And yet you declined to post any pics yourself.

I stopped posting sexy pics of myself after that whole goatse.cx thing.

Shake
09-30-2005, 09:25 PM
I remember those lean torso days Erimir! Enjoy them! One day you'll wake up and be 37 and 20 pounds heavier!!
Well, I'm only 35, but if by the time I'm 37 I'm down to only being 20 lbs heavier than I was, say, 15 years ago, I'll be pretty darn happy!

fragment
09-30-2005, 11:00 PM
I'm posting this as an adjunct to the flat stomach discussion, not 'cos it's sexy. It's the last time I had such a stomach, the result of a weight loss program I went on 2 years back called "Backpacking Around India For Three Months", which I highly recommend to those of you who would like to lose calories in a more adventurous fashion.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/fragment_z/indiagut.jpg

Johnny Pneumatic
10-01-2005, 08:17 PM
and yet another in a continuing series of unseemly threats by SkepticJ to expose his penis.

No, no, it's not that, it's the rest of me. I haven't had a six pack in years. I'm not as unsexy as Godless Dave though, so what the hell, I'll get some photos up on Tuesday.

erimir
10-05-2005, 04:44 AM
Alright, just cuz I'm bored, I'll post another pic.

But I don't suppose anyone else will be posting anything anyway...

http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/reclining.jpg

Trojan
10-05-2005, 05:10 AM
Alright, just cuz I'm bored, I'll post another pic.

But I don't suppose anyone else will be posting anything anyway...

http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/reclining.jpg
Ummm...I posted compliments to you and it was deleted! Once again I'll say I know some people that would SALIVATE over you! Nice pic. Ahh to be young again......And if I knew how to post pics I would! For real!

RevDahlia
10-05-2005, 06:21 AM
Dang, erimir is kyooooote.

Adora
10-05-2005, 10:23 AM
Why are the pretty-eyelashed pouty ones gay? WHY!?

viscousmemories
10-05-2005, 01:51 PM
Ummm...I posted compliments to you and it was deleted!
I'm not sure if you're referring to a software glitch or something else, but just to be clear we don't delete posts unless they violate our rules (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/ffintro.php?do=ffrules) and we haven't deleted any in this thread.

Shake
10-05-2005, 08:04 PM
I'm posting this as an adjunct to the flat stomach discussion, not 'cos it's sexy. It's the last time I had such a stomach, the result of a weight loss program I went on 2 years back called "Backpacking Around India For Three Months", which I highly recommend to those of you who would like to lose calories in a more adventurous fashion.
Yeah, thanks, but that sounds like an awfully expensive way to do it! :eek: I think I'll try to find something a little closer to home.

Zikes
10-05-2005, 09:23 PM
I never thought this pic was sexy but I've had a few girls tell me it evoked some *ahem* dreams, and one of them developed an unnatural obsession with my bottom lip :blink:

Legs
10-05-2005, 09:48 PM
Nice eyes, Zikes :yup:

Zikes
10-05-2005, 09:51 PM
Thankya, Legs :thankee:

Legs
10-05-2005, 10:11 PM
You look like a young George Clooney :yup:

BracesForImpact
10-05-2005, 10:16 PM
This is a sausage fest, I'm out. :killme:

Crumb
10-05-2005, 10:33 PM
I never thought this pic was sexy but I've had a few girls tell me it evoked some *ahem* dreams, and one of them developed an unnatural obsession with my bottom lip :blink:
What's that hideous thing hanging from your chin?! :rubeyes:

xyza
10-05-2005, 10:59 PM
Because I'll only live once and by posting them online myself, takes any pleasure away from the owner of other such photographs should we ever break up.

http://www.inannasgarden.co.uk/photo%20dump/back.jpg

Of course I'm also a tart :giggle:

Zikes
10-05-2005, 11:00 PM
What's that hideous thing hanging from your chin?! :rubeyes:

That's mah beard :beard:

cappuccino
10-05-2005, 11:55 PM
xyza you do got a mighty fine back :yup:

Trojan
10-05-2005, 11:57 PM
Ummm...I posted compliments to you and it was deleted!
I'm not sure if you're referring to a software glitch or something else, but just to be clear we don't delete posts unless they violate our rules (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/ffintro.php?do=ffrules) and we haven't deleted any in this thread.
I wondered about that because the post wasn't offensive at all. Must have been something else. :chin:

livius drusus
10-06-2005, 12:07 AM
Ummm...I posted compliments to you and it was deleted! Once again I'll say I know some people that would SALIVATE over you! Nice pic. Ahh to be young again......And if I knew how to post pics I would! For real!

Did you mean this post (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=114870#post114870), Trojan? As far as I know it's been there all along. :?

Ymir's blood
10-06-2005, 12:47 AM
/me saw the name of the last person to post to the thread and almost... :faint:

Adora
10-06-2005, 01:03 AM
That's a gorgeous pic, Xyza. And Zikes, you have a lovely bottom lip, though that beard is a little scary. Do you plait it like a viking or a dwarf?

RevDahlia
10-06-2005, 02:58 AM
So I thought, "Do I REALLY want to be subject to the critical opinions of some of the posters here?"

And then I thought, "This was a totally cheesy shoot and I'm wearing so much makeup that I look like a drag queen impersonating Bianca Jagger after a particularly rough night at studio 54, and besides I'm way too skinny."

And then I thought, "Oh, what the hell."

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/clandyone/mstake.jpg

MonCapitan2002
10-06-2005, 04:35 AM
I hope you have gained weight since that picture was taken. You look like you were in the need of a twinkie.

Legs
10-06-2005, 04:40 AM
RevDalhia, nice pic but where are your pants? :chin:

RevDahlia
10-06-2005, 04:42 AM
I hope you have gained weight since that picture was taken. You look like you were in the need of a twinkie.
Yeah, that was a year and a half and about 15 pounds ago. I no longer look like I am in need of a Twinkie, trust me.
RevDahlia, nice pic but where are your pants?
Attends, l'OP:
You don't have to be nude, or in underwear, but you have to be either in a sexy pose, scantily clad or nude.
I just do as I'm told. Didn't know that pants were required.

viscousmemories
10-06-2005, 05:22 AM
I'm wearing so much makeup that I look like a drag queen impersonating Bianca Jagger after a particularly rough night at studio 54 [...]
Actually you look like a really skinny Real Doll™. :giggle:

Of course your inner (and outer) sexiness is still obvious regardless.

Godless Dave
10-06-2005, 07:40 AM
And then I thought, "Oh, what the hell."

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/clandyone/mstake.jpg

It's gone :(

Ymir's blood
10-06-2005, 11:55 AM
I hope you have gained weight since that picture was taken. You look like you were in the need of a twinkie.
Yeah, that was a year and a half and about 15 pounds ago. I no longer look like I am in need of a Twinkie, trust me.
From what I remember of the at-first-too-dark picture you posted at IIDB, you look great now.

cappuccino
10-06-2005, 01:55 PM
RevDahlia, I don't see any pictures :(

Zikes
10-06-2005, 04:32 PM
And Zikes, you have a lovely bottom lip, though that beard is a little scary. Do you plait it like a viking or a dwarf?

Actually, the girl with the bottom lip obsession did braid it a couple of times.

pescifish
10-06-2005, 10:49 PM
Guys, your tummies are all terrific, but I think they'd be a lot sexier if they weren't just disembodied torsos -- how 'bout some more faces? erimir, I liked the headshot you posted in another thread too.

Godless Dave, I have loved that photo of you from the first time you posted it wherever that was. You look great out there on the lake!

xyza, that's a very sexy photo! You have gorgeous hair and a lovely back.

RevDahlia, alas, the photo doesn't show up for me, but I can vouche for your beauty and sexiness from the time we met at the SanFrancisco infidels lunch a couple of years ago.

Zikes, that beard looks like it could be fun, but I like your eyes even better.

Zikes
10-07-2005, 11:05 PM
Zikes, that beard looks like it could be fun, but I like your eyes even better.

Thank you pescifish :thankee:

Matt
10-08-2005, 08:08 PM
I'm one muscley dood: me (http://www.medical-books.co.nz/images/muscle_guy.jpg)


I've temporarilly misplaced my digital camera so no 'sexy' pics of myself but some older wedding pics where I'm all dressed up nice can be found at www.myspace.com/mattmedi

Dingfod
10-08-2005, 08:23 PM
Me, posing next to my house. (http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/graphics/cnp_dirigible_hangar_01.jpg)

Matt
10-08-2005, 08:27 PM
Me, posing next to my house. (http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/graphics/cnp_dirigible_hangar_01.jpg)

Damn, that gives me blimp envy.

Dingfod
10-08-2005, 08:29 PM
I couldn't help it. That picture is just so sexual.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-08-2005, 08:30 PM
Me, posing next to my house. (http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/graphics/cnp_dirigible_hangar_01.jpg)

You liar, that's you having sex with your mate.

Dingfod
10-08-2005, 08:32 PM
Me, posing next to my house. (http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/graphics/cnp_dirigible_hangar_01.jpg)

You liar, that's you having sex with your mate.Isn't that what I said?

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 12:47 AM
Here they are, the long awaited sexy pics of me:

Post edited to remove the tempting links that D. Scarlatti couldn't refrain from repeatedly clicking on and bitching about the content of.

Crumb
10-11-2005, 12:54 AM
Hmm... I don't think I am going to click on those... :nope:

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 01:18 AM
Hmm... I don't think I am going to click on those... :nope:

You better not if you're in a public place...., or eating, or pregnant.

Crumb
10-11-2005, 02:09 AM
Or a heterosexual male?

cappuccino
10-11-2005, 03:25 AM
That's an interesting looking explosion :eek:

Leesifer
10-11-2005, 08:43 AM
I couldn't help clicking on the links.

My eyes, my eyes. :eek:

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Or a heterosexual male?

Or a heterosexual male.

Now, that the ladies got some skin shots from me, return the favor?

Dingfod
10-11-2005, 02:35 PM
You might want to see a doctor about that redness in your armpit. You might have a fungal infection there.

SharonDee
10-11-2005, 02:39 PM
My eyes, my eyes. :eek:It's okay; the pain subsides eventually. :comfort:

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 02:41 PM
You might want to see a doctor about that redness in your armpit.

Not only that but a dermatologist could probably refer you to a psychiatrist.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 02:53 PM
You might want to see a doctor about that redness in your armpit. You might have a fungal infection there.

Or I get red after a hot shower.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 02:58 PM
Not only that but a dermatologist could probably refer you to a psychiatrist.

Could you please explain where your vitriolic attitude toward me springs from? What did I ever do to you before you started lambasting me? Honestly, I'm tired of it.

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 03:09 PM
It isn't vitriol, it's bemusement.

While most would probably agree that manipulating one's own penis for the purpose of a self-satisfying ejaculation constitutes normal human behavior, whether recording the event digitally and uploading the results to someone else's publicly accessible webserver remains within the purview of normal behavior is probably open to some debate.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 03:22 PM
While most would probably agree that manipulating one's own penis for the purpose of a self-satisfying ejaculation constitutes normal human behavior, whether recording the event digitally and uploading the results to someone else's publicly accessible webserver remains within the purview of normal behavior is probably open to some debate.

Well, I don't see you making a deal of xyza's ass crack shot, or erimir's homo-erotic underwear shots; so perhaps you best step off. Just because you don't have the balls to post anything, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
Also you must be lying, because you've been taking shots at me for days, I only posted my pics yesterday. Are you a time traveler?

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 03:33 PM
You find a guy in underwear homo-erotic?

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 03:52 PM
You find a guy in underwear homo-erotic?

His pose, combined with the underware. You couldn't get any more gay that that without being in a Robert Mapplethorpe photograph or a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie. Then again, maybe I'm a tiny bit Bi? Not the level of Bi that I want to have sex with men, just it moves ever so slightly(only sometimes) when I see nude men and I don't like to see nude men. What's this called?

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 03:55 PM
Weird. I saw a guy in his underwear, you saw homosexually erotic elements.

That's interesting. Next you're going to tell us erimir inspired your shower activities?

What's this called?

"Gay"?

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 03:57 PM
Next you're going to tell us erimir inspired your shower activities?

No, humor did. I did those photographs to shock, it seems they worked huh?

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 03:59 PM
No, sorry. Neither people like you masturbating in public nor some guy in his underwear shock me.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 04:01 PM
"Gay"?

Can't be, because wouldn't I find them to be attractive? I don't. I find men's parts, other than my own, to be repulsive looking. It must be something else, but something possibly out of the "norm". As if my lust for catwomen didn't make me weird already.

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 04:09 PM
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/arth/zoser/08.gif

Waluigi
10-11-2005, 04:47 PM
It's more than a river in Egypt, you know. :yup:

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 05:52 PM
You find a guy in underwear homo-erotic?

I forgot to get this the first time around: You're evading the question, what's been your beef with me for the other days you've taken cheap shots at me?

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 09:05 PM
I'll not expose my beef to any male that thinks a guy in his underwear is homoerotically stimulating.

Dingfod
10-11-2005, 09:11 PM
I'll not expose my beef to any male that thinks a guy in his underwear is homoerotically stimulating.You're sounding a bit homophobic there, D. Scarlatti. What are you afraid of, him getting excited by seeing your naughty bits?

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 09:17 PM
Actually I just don't want the poor guy to feel inadequate.

Dingfod
10-11-2005, 09:21 PM
Right...

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 09:24 PM
Right...

Easy for you to say (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=118125&postcount=58).

Dingfod
10-11-2005, 09:25 PM
Right...

Easy for you to say (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=118125&postcount=58).Is that homoerotic or what?

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 09:27 PM
How would I know? Ask Nipple Boy.

Shake
10-11-2005, 09:29 PM
Because I'll only live once and by posting them online myself, takes any pleasure away from the owner of other such photographs should we ever break up.

http://www.inannasgarden.co.uk/photo%20dump/back.jpg

Of course I'm also a tart :giggle:
That picture is so sexy, xyza! Very nice, indeed! :clap:

Johnny Pneumatic
10-11-2005, 09:36 PM
I'll not expose my beef to any male that thinks a guy in his underwear is homoerotically stimulating.

You're evading the question, again. :whup:


Then don't. I really don't want to see it. I don't know what I am, but I'm not gay. Even if I were attracted to men and their bits, which I'm not, I'd be bi-sexual. Thinking about this a little more after I posted, I even remember back when I was 6-7 I'd have that penis movement who's cause, like still happens, was/is totally non-sexual in nature. It's not just rarely photos of men that cause it, it can be any manner of thought. It's not a hard on, just a small movement. Also, if I were gay or bi, wouldn't I have had a crush of some kind on some man over the years? :chin: I had an uber crush on a girl when I was in the 4th grade. The crush lasted for 3+ years, but she just wanted to stay friends. Surely I'd lust after Brad Arm Pit and beat off to man porn if I were gay? But nope, I seek out woman, or woman on woman porn only.

D. Scarlatti
10-11-2005, 09:54 PM
You're evading the question, again.

I'm not evading any question. You post a lot of really dumb shit and I've replied to it a few times. Sue me.

viscousmemories
10-12-2005, 12:46 AM
It's more than a river in Egypt, you know. :yup:
Thanks, Waluigi. I was completely lost.

Ymir's blood
10-12-2005, 12:56 AM
You got lost while looking at a map? :P

Waluigi
10-12-2005, 01:43 AM
It's more than a river in Egypt, you know. :yup:
Thanks, Waluigi. I was completely lost.
Don't feel bad. Before I read the words, I thought it was a diagram of a pimple! :doh:

viscousmemories
10-12-2005, 05:59 AM
You got lost while looking at a map? :P
Yeah, I'm all man baby!

Don't feel bad. Before I read the words, I thought it was a diagram of a pimple! :doh:
I can see that. :chuckle:

Ymir's blood
10-12-2005, 11:21 AM
You got lost while looking at a map? :P
Yeah, I'm all man baby!
I didn't get it until Waluigi's post either.

JoeP
10-12-2005, 03:26 PM
It's more than a river in Egypt, you know. :yup:
Thanks, Waluigi. I was completely lost.
Don't feel bad. Before I read the words, I thought it was a diagram of a pimple! :doh:
A pimple? I thought it was a delta. A fertile triangle. In a sexy pics thread.

Jacey
10-12-2005, 05:08 PM
I haven't been around in a while, but I'll take any excuse to show off and shamelessly post pics of myself.

It's a bit old, but I look exactly the same. I think I just like the sideview. Was at my cousins wedding, totally hammered.

Adora
10-12-2005, 11:25 PM
Mmmmm, shiny-headed men. *pets*

Johnny Pneumatic
10-12-2005, 11:29 PM
I'm not evading any question. You post a lot of really dumb shit and I've replied to it a few times. Sue me.

Such as? Also, if this were the case, what's with you putting personal attacks at me in the first post of a thread that you started? I'm not letting you get off from being a dick to me for no reason. And props for using the most clichéd "come-back" of all time, you talentless picodicked prick.

Bella
10-12-2005, 11:49 PM
You got lost while looking at a map? :P
Yeah, I'm all man baby!
I didn't get it until Waluigi's post either.
I still don't get it :(.

erimir
10-13-2005, 01:03 AM
Here they are, the long awaited sexy pics of me:

Post edited to remove the tempting links that D. Scarlatti couldn't refrain from repeatedly clicking on and bitching about the content of.
Damn, I don't sign on for two days and all hell breaks loose.

And GODDAMMIT, I miss it! I feel left out :(

Oh btw, the Nile River delta looks like a woman's bush. Now everyone should get it.

cappuccino
10-13-2005, 03:40 AM
Serves you right, next time, check in more often! :wink:

Waluigi
10-13-2005, 01:47 PM
And GODDAMMIT, I miss it! I feel left out :(
You missed SkepticJ's penis, which, quite honestly, I didn't really need to see. There should have been a warning next to the link (something along the lines of "hey, you're about to see my penis!")

Johnny Pneumatic
10-13-2005, 07:08 PM
There should have been a warning next to the link (something along the lines of "hey, you're about to see my penis!")

What part of Whoops, explosion! didn't give you a warning?

Anastasia Beaverhausen
10-14-2005, 04:43 AM
Mmmmm, shiny-headed men. *pets*
With great bods and baby-blue eyes! And the most charming personality I have ever encountered. :vapours:

Waluigi
10-14-2005, 02:46 PM
What part of Whoops, explosion! didn't give you a warning?
I don't read the text of links before I click on them!

I will now, though.

MisterIngo
10-14-2005, 06:31 PM
I hadn't thought of doing this but here goes. Alas, a picture of me, the Great MisterIngo! Riiight...

I do not have as long hair now, nor curly. It's about a year old. For a more recent picture please visit http://misteringo.deviantart.com . Just scroll downwards... :D

If you want, I might take a better picture, but we'll see how this one is recieved first, shall we?

Leesifer
10-14-2005, 07:36 PM
How you doin', MisterIngo?

pescifish
10-14-2005, 09:22 PM
I'm not evading any question. You post a lot of really dumb shit and I've replied to it a few times. Sue me.Such as? Also, if this were the case, what's with you putting personal attacks at me in the first post of a thread that you started? I'm not letting you get off from being a dick to me for no reason. And props for using the most clichéd "come-back" of all time, you talentless picodicked prick.What makes you think you should be immune to the sincere reaction any of us might have to the stuff you post?

Ensign Steve
10-14-2005, 11:02 PM
:popcorn: I don't think I've posted this one in a long time.

ETA: Oops I didn't realize there was already a boobs thread.

Sweetie
10-16-2005, 05:20 PM
SkepticJ, I just wanted to say, I didn't find either pose necessarily attractive just because of the pose, but that was the best head shot of you yet, it was actually rather nice! Just wanted you to know that admidst all the negativity.

Take a head shot as good as that one, do something understated yet still sexy, and you'll probably have more success. Good luck.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-17-2005, 12:53 AM
What makes you think you should be immune to the sincere reaction any of us might have to the stuff you post?

Well, unless he flames everyone else in this thread, and their "mental disorder" of putting nude or at least risqué photos of theirself online, then he's applying a double standard. Double standards are total BS. It would be a totally different matter if I posted a nude shot of myself in a thread in say R and P, but not in Sexuality and in a thread created for the posting of such shots. Him griping at me is on the same stupidity level as if he went to a bar and flamed people for forcing him to see drunk people. Don't want to see my cock? Don't click on the fucking link, moron! It's not like I had the photo showing IN the thread, unlike other people, which I have no problem with.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-17-2005, 12:59 AM
You might want to see a doctor about that redness in your armpit. You might have a fungal infection there.

I figured out what the cause is. It wasn't the hot shower, or a "fungal infection" :whup:. I seem to have an allergic reaction to something in the deodorant I wear. I guess I better look for another brand, or find out just what chemical(s) it/they is/are.

Ensign Steve
10-17-2005, 01:02 AM
Do you use plain deodorant or a deodorant and anti-persperant combination? Anti-persperants usually have metals in them like aluminum that irritates some peoples skin.

Jacey
10-17-2005, 04:34 PM
:popcorn: I don't think I've posted this one in a long time.

"Heh heh heh heh heh heh"
-Butthead

ChuckF
10-17-2005, 05:57 PM
Do you use plain deodorant or a deodorant and anti-persperant combination? Anti-persperants usually have metals in them like aluminum that irritates some peoples skin.
This is true. A friend of mine has the same problem. Almay makes a hypoallergenic, clear, fragrance-free antiperspirant.

Dingfod
10-17-2005, 06:06 PM
I use Crystal deodorant (http://www.crystaldeodorantprotection.com/). I've never found anything that works as well to eliminate odor. It doesn't do much to stop sweating, but I practically guarantee your armpits won't stink if you use it. Or be irritated by it's natural ingredients. Try the foot spray too, if it's as good as the deodorant it must be fantastic at eliminating foot odor.

zor
10-18-2005, 07:20 PM
It's not me - my wife.

Leesifer
10-18-2005, 07:25 PM
An odd type of thread for your first post but, hello zor, welcome to :ff:

xyza
10-18-2005, 08:14 PM
It's not me - my wife.Does she know? :chin:

Johnny Pneumatic
10-18-2005, 08:20 PM
It's not me - my wife.Does she know? :chin:

It is pretty weird that he posted it, instead of her.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-18-2005, 09:55 PM
:popcorn: I don't think I've posted this one in a long time.

Ooooo, you look nice. :yup:

pescifish
10-18-2005, 09:59 PM
What makes you think you should be immune to the sincere reaction any of us might have to the stuff you post?

Well, unless he flames everyone else in this thread, and their "mental disorder" of putting nude or at least risqué photos of theirself online, then he's applying a double standard. Double standards are total BS. It would be a totally different matter if I posted a nude shot of myself in a thread in say R and P, but not in Sexuality and in a thread created for the posting of such shots. Him griping at me is on the same stupidity level as if he went to a bar and flamed people for forcing him to see drunk people. Don't want to see my cock? Don't click on the fucking link, moron! It's not like I had the photo showing IN the thread, unlike other people, which I have no problem with.Ok. I can see how this particular thread can look this way. You had mentioned another thread so I didn't know we were talking just about the reaction to nude pics.

Ensign Steve
10-18-2005, 10:26 PM
It's not me - my wife.Does she know? :chin:

I think its kind of hard to forget getting married.

Ensign Steve
10-18-2005, 10:27 PM
:popcorn: I don't think I've posted this one in a long time.

Ooooo, you look nice. :yup:

You're a sweetie! That means a lot coming from someone who's into Faye. ;)

zor
10-19-2005, 11:51 AM
It's not me - my wife.Does she know? :chin:
She knows!!!
!!!

erimir
10-27-2005, 12:05 AM
Well, I feel like it's time to post another pic.

Should I post a front or back pic tho?

Hmmmmm...

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 12:30 AM
I wouldn't mind getting a look at that ass. Loose the underoos, though. :lecher:

erimir
10-27-2005, 12:51 AM
Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/Sverige%20azz.jpg

That's right, I didn't give any warning or upload it so you could choose not to look.

cappuccino
10-27-2005, 12:58 AM
*pinches erimir's ass*

Waluigi
10-27-2005, 01:00 AM
What an ass! Butt wait, there's more. I have a few more jokes to crack. I don't want to get behind on my quota. Oops, gotta go, there's a rump roast in the oven.

You can post your ass without warning, but should you post the other side, kindly make it a link for those of us that might browse at work. :)

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 01:05 AM
Ask and ye shall receive:

:vapours:

I'd take a bite out of that!

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 01:07 AM
You can post your ass without warning, but should you post the other side, kindly make it a link for those of us that might browse at work. :)

Hint: when at work, don't click on links to "sexy pics". :stoopid:

/me wonders where Waluigi works that ass an boobs are okay, but penis is out. Not Austrailia, I assume. They Love the COCK!

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 02:02 AM
You can post your ass without warning, but should you post the other side, kindly make it a link for those of us that might browse at work. :)


Well, I really didn't need to see that. I'd have preferred it was in link form.

Not a big fan of Long Dong Hung Low, but Skinny Ass Show More is fine, Waluigi?

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 02:06 AM
Well, I really didn't need to see that. I'd have preferred it was in link form.


What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If boobs can be posted in line, so can male ass. Especially scrumptious, perky ass like that. Oh my god. I'd like to dive between those cheeks and I wouldn't come up for air even if ... wait, what were we talking about?

Oh, yeah. Just don't label the thread "mom's chocolate chip cookie recipe" and all is fair, IMNSVHO.

Waluigi
10-27-2005, 02:11 AM
What? Butts are humerous! Everyone loves a good butt joke.

Yeah, it's a bad idea to check this thread at work, but sometimes, there's just not much else to do.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 02:17 AM
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Even tubal ligation?

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 02:18 AM
What? Butts are humerous! Everyone loves a good butt joke.


They may be to you, butt I beg to differ.

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 02:20 AM
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Even tubal ligation?

Um, I'm not exactly sure I understand the question. But a tubal ligation is good for the goose, and a vasectomy is good for the gander. So I am going venture a guess and answer, "Yes."

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 02:30 AM
Um, I'm not exactly sure I understand the question. But a tubal ligation is good for the goose, and a vasectomy is good for the gander. So I am going venture a guess and answer, "Yes."

Pap smears or breast implants then. :nyahnyah:

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 02:54 AM
Hey, baby, you can have all the breast implants you want.

As far as smears, go... this might be a little cold.

erimir
10-27-2005, 03:39 AM
Well, I really didn't need to see that. I'd have preferred it was in link form.
What, you mean my underwear pic caused a twitch in your cock, but this pic did nothing for you?

I'm hurt :(

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 04:04 AM
Well, my cock is twitching six ways from Sunday, if that makes you feel any better.

Yeah, I know. The twitchings of the pseudo-cock of a frustrated militatant wanna-be lesbo don't really count for anything these days. That's okay. I'll get over it.

Adora
10-27-2005, 05:32 AM
Pseudo cock? Um... Phallocentric, much?

Carnivale Ed
10-27-2005, 05:44 AM
I know, it's terrible, isn't it? I know I've always referred to my penis as an overachieving clit, just for that reason :yup:

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 06:38 AM
Pseudo cock? Um... Phallocentric, much?

I don't know what that means. But I don't have an actual cock, so the closest I can get is a pseudo cock, I think?

Carnivale Ed
10-27-2005, 07:28 AM
I think she means you shouldn't be referring to yourself in terms of cock at all. You're a woman, you have a vagina and a clitoris, revel in it. It's like spelling women as womyn. She's encouraging you to define yourself solely as a woman, not in comparison to a man. It's a sisterhood thing.

But, far be it for me to over-explain somebody else's throwaway line...

Adora
10-27-2005, 08:04 AM
I know, it's terrible, isn't it? I know I've always referred to my penis as an overachieving clit, just for that reason :yup:
Damn straight, skippy. If a clit is a pseudo-cock then a cock is a pseudo-clit. Or, y'know, they could just be what they are. The brain is still the sexiest organ on a human being.

Carnivale Ed
10-27-2005, 08:19 AM
The brain is still the sexiest organ on a human being.
Right on, flipper. Marilyn wasn't with Miller for his good looks. I'm pretty sure that's why he was with her, though...

Adora
10-27-2005, 02:02 PM
Sadly, Marilyn was just another doll who, if her own writings are anything to go buy, never knew what "sexy" actually was, even in her own mind. She's just another in a long line of "Female Chauvinist Pigs" (wonderful phrase coined by Ariel Levy) who spend their entire lives pretending to be someone else's version of "sexual" but never figuring out what "sexy" means for them or what actually makes them feel that way. Paris Hilton. Jenna Jameson. Britney Spears. Pick any one. Same pathetic story. Maybe if these bitches actually used their brains instead of cruising on lazily on their looks they might wake the fuck up.

xyza
10-27-2005, 02:09 PM
How do you know that one version of their sexy for others isn't actually their own version of sexy for them though?

Sometimes your own version of something (anything not just this topic) is considered mainstream, you can't get away from that.

Carnivale Ed
10-27-2005, 02:20 PM
Sadly, Marilyn was just another doll who, if her own writings are anything to go buy, never knew what "sexy" actually was, even in her own mind. She's just another in a long line of "Female Chauvinist Pigs" (wonderful phrase coined by Ariel Levy) who spend their entire lives pretending to be someone else's version of "sexual" but never figuring out what "sexy" means for them or what actually makes them feel that way. Paris Hilton. Jenna Jameson. Britney Spears. Pick any one. Same pathetic story. Maybe if these bitches actually used their brains instead of cruising on lazily on their looks they might wake the fuck up.
I don't suppose you were at this?
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17044386%255E5000107,00.html

Carnivale Ed
10-27-2005, 02:47 PM
Sadly, Marilyn was just another doll who, if her own writings are anything to go buy, never knew what "sexy" actually was, even in her own mind. She's just another in a long line of "Female Chauvinist Pigs" (wonderful phrase coined by Ariel Levy) who spend their entire lives pretending to be someone else's version of "sexual" but never figuring out what "sexy" means for them or what actually makes them feel that way. Paris Hilton. Jenna Jameson. Britney Spears. Pick any one. Same pathetic story. Maybe if these bitches actually used their brains instead of cruising on lazily on their looks they might wake the fuck up.
Isn't this just the newest version of what Germaine Greer's been saying for years - that she's disappointed with feminism because it failed to give women their own sexual fantasies, and only liberated them to conform more fully to the male ideal?

xyza
10-27-2005, 03:08 PM
Isn't this just the newest version of what Germaine Greer's been saying for years - that she's disappointed with feminism because it failed to give women their own sexual fantasies, and only liberated them to conform more fully to the male ideal?
Who said that sexual fantasies were male or female in origin in the first place?

I fail to see why we would have such differing sexual fantisies, based purely on our gender, sexual orientation of course, but not gender.

Edit: Maybe not even so much on sexual orientation either.

Dingfod
10-27-2005, 03:09 PM
I was promised sexy pics. Where are the damn sexy pics? I want some sexy pics, dammit.

xyza
10-27-2005, 03:21 PM
I was promised sexy pics. Where are the damn sexy pics? I want some sexy pics, dammit.
So obviously this wasn't sexy enough for you as well as all the other photos others have posted :eyebrow2:

MonCapitan2002
10-27-2005, 03:55 PM
Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/Sverige%20azz.jpg (http://www.unc.edu/%7Emariop/Sverige%20azz.jpg)

That's right, I didn't give any warning or upload it so you could choose not to look.
If I swung that way, I would express a positive opinion on your posterior shape. Since I don't swing that way, I must assert my masculinity by saying "eww".

Dingfod
10-27-2005, 04:11 PM
I was promised sexy pics. Where are the damn sexy pics? I want some sexy pics, dammit.
So obviously this wasn't sexy enough for you as well as all the other photos others have posted :eyebrow2:Nothing against that at all, but there has been nothing but a guy's butt for the last two pages. As nice as that butt was, it's not quite what I was expecting. Of course, you will not find any sexy pics of me in here because Warren and sexy are mutually exclusive terms.

xyza
10-27-2005, 04:29 PM
Well if you like moody and clothed, heres another of me ... Mum has just made the dress smaller/more fitted for me

Jacey
10-27-2005, 05:07 PM
Sadly, Marilyn was just another doll who, if her own writings are anything to go buy, never knew what "sexy" actually was, even in her own mind. She's just another in a long line of "Female Chauvinist Pigs" (wonderful phrase coined by Ariel Levy) who spend their entire lives pretending to be someone else's version of "sexual" but never figuring out what "sexy" means for them or what actually makes them feel that way. Paris Hilton. Jenna Jameson. Britney Spears. Pick any one. Same pathetic story. Maybe if these bitches actually used their brains instead of cruising on lazily on their looks they might wake the fuck up.

Cool post and I totally agree...........the most attractive and sexy women I've ever seen wouldn't fall into a lot of peoples definitions of attractive, but she's heartstoppinglydrooooolbrainleakingoutofmyear gorgeous. Still don't understand why so many men find the bleached blonde idiot girls to be attractive.........

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 06:32 PM
Well if you like moody and clothed, heres another of me ... Mum has just made the dress smaller/more fitted for me

Moody is fine, clothed isn't. Lets see some skin ladies, I put up, before the D Man had to bitch and moan about it. I'll put the link back up if it'll get other people other than erimir to post some tit, beaver and ass.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 06:43 PM
Cool post and I totally agree...........the most attractive and sexy women I've ever seen wouldn't fall into a lot of peoples definitions of attractive, but she's heartstoppinglydrooooolbrainleakingoutofmyear gorgeous. Still don't understand why so many men find the bleached blonde idiot girls to be attractive.........


Same hear. Anna Smith and her kind are ugly.

Maybe that's why, idiots like idiots. Or taking-advantage-of-women-type men like their prey to be on the dumb side.

The most attractive women I've ever seen aren't caucasian either. Mixed "races" are so beautiful. Half Latino, half Japanese, mmmm boy. Half Polynesian, half caucasian, mmmm boy. Half Eastern European, half some Native American tribe, oh, oh, oh!

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 06:51 PM
What, you mean my underwear pic caused a twitch in your cock, but this pic did nothing for you?

I'm hurt :(


Well, like I explained forever to DS, it's not a bi thing; unless it's possible to be bi without actually being attracted to the same sex. All sorts of things non-sexual make it happen. It's happened since I was around six or seven, far before puberty, my balls dropping and my sex drive.


Now you know how my retinas feel.

erimir
10-27-2005, 07:21 PM
Oh please. While it might not turn you on, I don't think it was unpleasant to look at.

I mean, I don't get a big hard on for titties, but I certainly am not grossed out by them on their own. Or for that matter, vaginas. That is, when we're talking about normal ones, not like some 300 lb woman's or a granny's tits and cooch.

Hell, if you didn't know it was my ass, I daresay my butt could pass for a girl's ass.

SharonDee
10-27-2005, 07:23 PM
Hell, if you didn't know it was my ass, I daresay my butt could pass for a girl's ass.That's actually what I thought it was at first, to be honest.

I swear, some of these guys act like such 'phobes.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-27-2005, 07:41 PM
Oh please. While it might not turn you on, I don't think it was unpleasant to look at.

I mean, I don't get a big hard on for titties, but I certainly am not grossed out by them on their own. Or for that matter, vaginas. That is, when we're talking about normal ones, not like some 300 lb woman's or a granny's tits and cooch.

Hell, if you didn't know it was my ass, I daresay my butt could pass for a girl's ass.

And hear lies the heart of subjectivity. I don't think photos of S&M or hentai tentacle rape are pleasant to look at; but those people who like S&M and hentai tentacle rape might very well find the nude catwomen I like to be unpleasant to look at.

That kind of goes with the territory of being gay.

Nope, hip structure gives it away.

Dingfod
10-27-2005, 07:55 PM
Hell, if you didn't know it was my ass, I daresay my butt could pass for a girl's ass.That's actually what I thought it was at first, to be honest.

I swear, some of these guys act like such 'phobes.Not me, I said "nice" in reference to erimir's ass.

Ensign Steve
10-27-2005, 10:21 PM
Hell, if you didn't know it was my ass, I daresay my butt could pass for a girl's ass.

Nope, hip structure gives it away.

I disagree. I think it looks very much like a girl's ass. Erimir has great curves.

PS: I am woman, hear me roar, and I will refer to my genitals any way I please. I love my lady-cock!

erimir
10-27-2005, 10:56 PM
And hear lies the heart of subjectivity. I don't think photos of S&M or hentai tentacle rape are pleasant to look at; but those people who like S&M and hentai tentacle rape might very well find the nude catwomen I like to be unpleasant to look at.
There's a difference between being grossed out by tentacle porn and being grossed out by the naked male body in a non-explicit pose.

I don't think it's really normal. I doubt you would be grossed out by the butt of Michelangelo's David. On the David it's just a butt, on me it's just a butt with nothing particularly repulsive about it.

Not saying you should be pleased to look at it, but I think that the "ewww, gross" reaction is just meant to reassert your heterosexuality rather than being a genuine reaction of disgust. I also don't get gay guys who scream at the mention of vagina or the sight of boobs - there again, I suspect it's just an act.

Or maybe I'm just so unfazed by things like this that I can't understand how anyone could be. I find the fit and healthy naked body of either sex to be aesthetically pleasing, even if men turn me on much more than women.

Would you be grossed out by a female that had an ass that looked like mine?

*hmmm, note to self: if I do start putting up pictures on my wall, get some frontal nude shots of both men (possibly aroused men) and women...

Petra
10-27-2005, 11:38 PM
..."Female Chauvinist Pigs" (wonderful phrase coined by Ariel Levy)

I love it when people get attributed for coining phrases that have been in existance way before the attributee ever used it.

We used to use that phrase back when I was in Girls' High School. We'd be female chauvanist pigs whenever we'd get the guys at Boys' High to do stuff for us, even though we knew we could do it ourselves.


Ariel Levy may have updated the meaning of the phrase, but she didn't coin it.

Adora
10-28-2005, 01:01 AM
How do you know that one version of their sexy for others isn't actually their own version of sexy for them though?
Because, as I pointed out, they say so. One of the most common lines out of the mouths of these birds is something like, "I'm always being sexual but I never feel sexy".

Isn't this just the newest version of what Germaine Greer's been saying for years - that she's disappointed with feminism because it failed to give women their own sexual fantasies, and only liberated them to conform more fully to the male ideal?
Considering what Germaine Greer didn't do for feminism herself I don't think she has any right to judge the generations of feminist that have come after her. And I disagree, strongly. Things like this happen slowly, not in the 15 or so years said overblown celebrity was really involved in the feminist movement. Hey, without feminism, my own sexual fantasies probably wouldn't have existed. There a reason slash and BL/yaoi material really took off in the late 70s, and that's because groups of women became aware of themselves and their sexual desires. But if you're talking about mainstream wide-ranging changes, Greer should STFU and stop writing crap herself (The Boy was some of the worst-researched crap I've ever read) and get her act together.

Hell, if you didn't know it was my ass, I daresay my butt could pass for a girl's ass.
You bet your sweet ass it could. *spanks*

We'd be female chauvanist pigs whenever we'd get the guys at Boys' High to do stuff for us, even though we knew we could do it ourselves.
Did you actually use the phrase though? And what Lexy is suggesting isn't using heterosexual relationships to get what you want, which I don't think is a good description of the phrase anyway. It's women willingly (in some form) playing into the chauvinistic practices in society that do nothing except make society worse for women, and, in most cases, not knowing why they're doing it.

Petra
10-28-2005, 01:37 AM
Did you actually use the phrase though?

Yes, we did. Even the some of the guys used it.

And what Lexy is suggesting isn't using heterosexual relationships to get what you want, which I don't think is a good description of the phrase anyway.I know that. The phrase has evolved in it's definition. At the time we used it, it's definition was legit in accordance with our lives and the gender politics of the day. 20-30 years on, sex and gender politics have continued to change, as you would expect, and the phrase's meaning has changed with it. Levy has a perfectly legitimate definition of the phrase as it stands now. But, just to be picky, she didn't coin the phrase.

Carnivale Ed
10-28-2005, 01:49 AM
Is there a broader issue here? I'm no expert on gender relations, but it does seem that a branch of feminism is more interested in chastising other women for their behaviour than in actually working to improve things for all women. Is Levy doing this? Is she a feminist at all? Did she pick this topic because she thought it might just sell some books? Is it because there's becoming fewer battles to fight, at least in the western world?

Ah, these questions are too hard. I'm just gonna go watch The Simple Life on DVD.

CE

Johnny Pneumatic
10-28-2005, 02:48 AM
There's a difference between being grossed out by tentacle porn and being grossed out by the naked male body in a non-explicit pose.

I don't think it's really normal. I doubt you would be grossed out by the butt of Michelangelo's David. On the David it's just a butt, on me it's just a butt with nothing particularly repulsive about it.

Not saying you should be pleased to look at it, but I think that the "ewww, gross" reaction is just meant to reassert your heterosexuality rather than being a genuine reaction of disgust. I also don't get gay guys who scream at the mention of vagina or the sight of boobs - there again, I suspect it's just an act.

Or maybe I'm just so unfazed by things like this that I can't understand how anyone could be. I find the fit and healthy naked body of either sex to be aesthetically pleasing, even if men turn me on much more than women.

Would you be grossed out by a female that had an ass that looked like mine?

I didn't say I was grossed out, I said I don't find them pleasant to look at. I occasionally look at tentacle hentai, curiosity, like looking at a conjoined twin.

I've seen it, in person.

Oh whatever.

Sure I would, it looks like The Moon with a big split through it. Is that Tycho I see near the bottom of your left ass cheek?

Adora
10-28-2005, 04:26 AM
Is there a broader issue here? I'm no expert on gender relations, but it does seem that a branch of feminism is more interested in chastising other women for their behaviour than in actually working to improve things for all women. Is Levy doing this? Is she a feminist at all? Did she pick this topic because she thought it might just sell some books? Is it because there's becoming fewer battles to fight, at least in the western world?
Listen, feminism isn't just about "Because you have a vagina you get away free/If you have a penis if you are bad". If there are other women working or complicity allowing inequality to occur, then they're just as bad as the men who do it. If there are men who are feminists, then they are feminists. It's not about the gender of the people creating inequality, but the gender inequality itself. It just happens to be that in our society, more men are benefitted from these ineuqalities than women are. That's not to say men don't suffer because of sexism as well - many people who research the area believe the higher pressure on men to perform correct gender roles is what gives them more of certain health problems - but it's not an inherent dichotomy.

Levy is a feminist who has said in interviews that she was interested in the rise of raunch culture because most of it went against everything she stood for as a feminist. The fact that raunch culture is so popular proves that there are still massive battles to fight. It's not necessarily about the behaviour itself, but the justifications and reasons for that behaviour.

As mentioned, this kind of thing plays on the ignorance and subjugation of females, even if it pretends otherwise. Thus the whole "Everyone involved chooses to be involved" tagline slapped on things like Blokesworld and Girls Gone Wild. That doesn't change the fact the reasons for it existing in the first place and the misogynistic discourses that such phenomenon are built on.

And, as Levy has pointed out, there's a difference between women exploring their sexuality independently through venues that have traditionally been exploitative and becoming stronger individuals because of this subversion, and the acts being used for subjugation of women only in difference in their relation to men. Many women who have gone to those "Strippercise" things have said this, that they enjoy the practice and have felt incredibly sexy and sexual because of it. But it becomes sexist and inequal because you ask most of the girls involved in the really exploitative things (like the raunch fashion waves, Girls Gone Wild etc) and they don't know why they're doing it. They just do it because of peer pressure from their friends or males or companies trying to sell them products.

When your sexuality becomes just a performance for the audience, it's not real or yours anymore. What raunch culture is successfully doing is depriving women of their sexuality by popularising and commodifying it and controlling it within primary sexist roles. That's why it's key role models I mentioned before so often use the "I'm sexual for others but I don't feel sexy" line. When you're reduced in your identity to a performing faking porn actress, who enjoys herself in the act so little you can answer the phone while you're being fucked (and yes, "being fucked" is the right word here) by your celebrity boyfriend in your amateur porn video, it's not real, and it's not good, and it's not something other people should emulate as a real and true identity.

Petra
10-28-2005, 04:47 AM
How much culture does 'raunch culture' encompass? Is it just GirlsGoneWild and celebrity "home sex video" humps? Or does it address other cultural influences' effects on modern female sex and gender roles?


When your sexuality becomes just a performance for the audience, it's not real or yours anymore. What raunch culture is successfully doing is depriving women of their sexuality by popularising and commodifying it and controlling it within primary sexist roles. That's why it's key role models I mentioned before so often use the "I'm sexual for others but I don't feel sexy" line. When you're reduced in your identity to a performing faking porn actress, who enjoys herself in the act so little you can answer the phone while you're being fucked (and yes, "being fucked" is the right word here) by your celebrity boyfriend in your amateur porn video, it's not real, and it's not good, and it's not something other people should emulate as a real and true identity.

Yup. I can agree that.

But what if they enjoy it, and that's what they're into? If they don't give a shit about how they're being commodified, and they love the exhibitionism and the subservience or the attention, and the money, etc?

Adora
10-28-2005, 07:26 AM
How much culture does 'raunch culture' encompass? Is it just GirlsGoneWild and celebrity "home sex video" humps? Or does it address other cultural influences' effects on modern female sex and gender roles?
It's cultural influences as well, such as the sort of "slutty-slogan Tee" fashion that was in a few seasons ago where some girls as young as 12 were walking around with T-shirts that said "Angel at school, Demon in bed". They had no idea of the real meaning and were just wearing it because everybody else was. I'm not saying teenagers shouldn't explore their sexuality, but conforming to some stereotype you don't understand the mechanics of isn't healthy.

But what if they enjoy it, and that's what they're into? If they don't give a shit about how they're being commodified, and they love the exhibitionism and the subservience or the attention, and the money, etc?
Depends. In an interview with Levy on JJJ a caller rang and made a comment on the whole "faux lesbian" thing where the drunken sorority girls will snog just because their boyfriends want to see it. She said her and a friend reversed it, did it in front of their boyfriends just because they wanted to see the reactions on the boys faces, which, apparently, was hysterical. This is fine, because they're doing it for themselves, and nobody's being exploited.

You should always have that choice, really, because nobody should be forced in such situations to do anything. If you choose to participate in an adult film, you should do it because you want to and you're being paid properly etc, and you shouldn't be exploited. But, as Levy points out, most of raunch culture isn't this way, and is just exploitation. The girls in those sorts of amateur videos that make up a good deal of the US raunch culture phenomenon don't get paid, and in many cases are under the unfluence of one (or several) substances. The ones who are in it long-term, like Jenna Jameson and Marilyn, become headcases because the sheen starts to wear off quickly as real commodification of them, their public presonas and their bodies kicks in, and they realise they're not getting anything out of it. I mean, Stacey Valentine in Girl Next Door said the reason she got so far into porn was because "It was the only thing I was good at". She was pushed into the industry in the first place by her bastard husband, and though she had success in the industry, watching the film all you get is this sad little actress without any real depth of personal character because all she's done is faked someone else's version of her identity for much of her life.

I think a lot of them start off thinking it's fun, and then realise otherwise when they're too far in. And I'm not just talking about porn, but just things like fashions and the whole "fuck me" wristband thing that went around schools in Australia a while ago. So it brings up the whole problem of "informed consent" in their choices. If they don't totally understand the scope of what they're getting into, how can they really be making a choice?

This is the basic problem with raunch culture: They women being exploited aren't informed. They're thus exploited by those who are and who profit most from their ignorance. If it was just girls having fun for themselves, benefitting themselves, and not causing any harm, then there would be no problem with it. But it's not, it's a symptom of gender inequality in society, and all it does is exploit the ignorance, inebreation, or unstable psychology of the women involved.

Petra
10-28-2005, 07:38 AM
Adora, thank you for answering my honest enquiry without calling me a "fucking ignorant whore". Much appreciated.

I'll consider what you have to say, and respond tomorrow after my day is done.

Cheers.

Petra
10-28-2005, 07:41 AM
Oh, by the way! You have a lovely ass, erimir. It's deliciously curvy and eminently squeezable. :yup:

Carnivale Ed
10-28-2005, 08:07 AM
I'll consider what you have to say, and respond tomorrow after my day is done.
I, too, will need some more time to respond. That's a hell of a slab of text.

Adora
10-28-2005, 10:17 AM
Adora, thank you for answering my honest enquiry without calling me a "fucking ignorant whore". Much appreciated.
When you stop acting like one, I have no reason to call you on it. But if you start again, it's not like I'm going to keep silent on the matter.

Carnivale Ed
10-28-2005, 12:38 PM
Okay, strap yourselves in, this could take a while. It's a bit of a meander, but here goes:

Listen, feminism isn't just about "Because you have a vagina you get away free/If you have a penis if you are bad".Never thought it was.

If there are other women working or complicity allowing inequality to occur, then they're just as bad as the men who do it.I know that there's a whole rest of a paragraph after this, but this was kind of what I was getting at before. Feminism can be too rigid, too ready to cast other women as villains. What you define as 'allowing inequality to occur' may be very different from what another woman defines it as. I would need a fuller definition of what this constitutes in your mind, though, to know if we actually disagree.

If there are men who are feminists, then they are feminists. It's not about the gender of the people creating inequality, but the gender inequality itself.I'm being semantic but, if this is true, then the term 'feminist' is inappropriate. It is, by definition, concerned only with the status of women. If it addresses inequality, it is with the implicit assumption that the inequality is weighted in favour of the male. It does not address inequality in general. But, as I said, I'm being semantic, I take your point.

It just happens to be that in our society, more men are benefitted from these ineuqalities than women are. That's not to say men don't suffer because of sexism as well - many people who research the area believe the higher pressure on men to perform correct gender roles is what gives them more of certain health problems - but it's not an inherent dichotomy. I don't think 'it just happens'. It's not like if you were born two towns over, you might have been born into a female dominated society. Patriarchy was, and is, a pretty widespread phenomenon, possibly even an evolutionary necessity. In the grand scheme of human history, is it possible that women achieved greater rights at (roughly) the time society was first able to grant them?

Levy is a feminist who has said in interviews that she was interested in the rise of raunch culture because most of it went against everything she stood for as a feminist. The fact that raunch culture is so popular proves that there are still massive battles to fight. It's not necessarily about the behaviour itself, but the justifications and reasons for that behaviour.I haven't read Levy's work, but I remain suspicious. If she was interested in raunch culture because it went against everything she stood for as a feminist, does she not have a motive to decry it? Is she just re-confirming her own prejudices? Also, you seem to be assuming that raunch culture in inherently bad.

As mentioned, this kind of thing plays on the ignorance and subjugation of females, even if it pretends otherwise. Thus the whole "Everyone involved chooses to be involved" tagline slapped on things like Blokesworld and Girls Gone Wild. That doesn't change the fact the reasons for it existing in the first place and the misogynistic discourses that such phenomenon are built on.I don't think it pretends anything if 'everyone chooses to be involved'. Isn't it more patronising to assume that a sizeable group of women don't know their own minds? The reasons for it may be misogynistic, or they may be biological, but this behaviour does exist, and has, for centuries, in one form or another. It is one thing to understand the why of such behaviour, another to characterise it as wrong. What serves the male may well serve the female, as well. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

And, as Levy has pointed out, there's a difference between women exploring their sexuality independently through venues that have traditionally been exploitative and becoming stronger individuals because of this subversion, and the acts being used for subjugation of women only in difference in their relation to men. Many women who have gone to those "Strippercise" things have said this, that they enjoy the practice and have felt incredibly sexy and sexual because of it.Is this a contradiction? Isn't 'Strippercise' built on the same 'misogynistic' foundation that Blokesworld is? I understand that women finding something redemptive in the process is what we're broadly speaking of, but it can hardly be a universal reaction, can it? Some women must take 'Strippercise' and not really know why, while others must appear on Blokesworld and find that experience sexy and liberating. If both of these things were to disappear, then wouldn’t that restrict women from experimenting with their sexuality in these arenas? It becomes clearer in your post to lunachick that you're more concerned with how individual women view these experiences, so I ask the question, would Blokesworld be alright if you believed that all the women featured were really enjoying the experience?

But it becomes sexist and inequal because you ask most of the girls involved in the really exploitative things (like the raunch fashion waves, Girls Gone Wild etc) and they don't know why they're doing it. They just do it because of peer pressure from their friends or males or companies trying to sell them products.Perhaps so, but peer pressure and consumerism are not phenomenon exclusive to the female. The manifestations of them may be more overtly sexual in the female than the male, but that's because we, both women and men, continue to view females in a highly sexual manner that has nothing to do with raunch culture. Even if you don’t know why you’re doing something, it doesn’t necessarily follow that you’re being exploited, either. In fact, you may be the one doing the exploiting. How many millions of dollars has Britney Spears made shaking her money maker? On a lesser scale, are you the Queen Bee of your high school because you know how to accessorise? What I’m saying is, there may well be a personal cost associated with pursuing ‘raunch culture’, but it’s possibly offset by the social benefits of such conformity.

When your sexuality becomes just a performance for the audience, it's not real or yours anymore. What raunch culture is successfully doing is depriving women of their sexuality by popularising and commodifying it and controlling it within primary sexist roles. That's why it's key role models I mentioned before so often use the "I'm sexual for others but I don't feel sexy" line. When you're reduced in your identity to a performing faking porn actress, who enjoys herself in the act so little you can answer the phone while you're being fucked (and yes, "being fucked" is the right word here) by your celebrity boyfriend in your amateur porn video, it's not real, and it's not good, and it's not something other people should emulate as a real and true identity.
Agreed. Paris answering that phone was just about the saddest thing I've ever seen. Isn't it reasonable, though, to say that, ultimately, an individual woman controls her own sexuality and can, at best, only be influenced by outside cultural influences to the degree she chooses? You, yourself, seem to have rejected it. Why assume other women are any less capable?

CE

Johnny Pneumatic
10-28-2005, 01:51 PM
I don't think 'it just happens'. It's not like if you were born two towns over, you might have been born into a female dominated society. Patriarchy was, and is, a pretty widespread phenomenon, possibly even an evolutionary necessity. In the grand scheme of human history, is it possible that women achieved greater rights at (roughly) the time society was first able to grant them?

How Arabian/Eurocentric you are. Matriarchal societies existed, and unless I'm mistaken, still do. If a man leading the tribe were an evolutionary necessity, wouldn't matriarchy never be seen?
I doubt it, because Western culture, after Christianity, got it's rules from Christianity. Christianity came from the Middle East, which was, and still is, the most repressive and sexist place on Earth. If you look at cultures where Christianity never spred you'll (sometimes) find much more equal treatment of women.
Condoms for birth control aren't high-tech. A tied of intestine from an animal would work just fine.
That said, I think matriarchal societies are sexist as well; it just goes the other way. Let both lead.

Carnivale Ed
10-28-2005, 02:18 PM
How Arabian/Eurocentric you are. Matriarchal societies existed, and unless I'm mistaken, still do. If a man leading the tribe were an evolutionary necessity, wouldn't matriarchy never be seen?
I doubt it, because Western culture, after Christianity, got it's rules from Christianity. Christianity came from the Middle East, which was, and still is, the most repressive and sexist place on Earth. If you look at cultures where Christianity never spred you'll (sometimes) find much more equal treatment of women.I don't think it's Euro- or Arab- centric. I'm fully prepared to be corrected on the matter, but here's my layman's reasoning:
NA - Native American tribes - patriarchal, as far as I'm aware.
SA - Inca, Maya, Aztec - patriarchal, as far as I'm aware.
Asia - Japan, China, Mongols - patriarchal, as far as I'm aware.
Africa - Egypt - patriarchal, as far as I'm aware.
Europe - the whole joint - patriarchal, pretty damn sure.

The status of women may have varied widely across these societies, I concede, but, I think, they were still basically patriarchies. This doesn't preclude matriarchal societies having existed, or still existing, but I feel confident in saying they were, and are, far more the exception than the rule. I was speaking broadly, regardless, was primarily concerned with civilisations, and not an individual tribe, for instance.

I described the evolutionary necessity of patriarchy as a possibility only, precisely because of the existence of matriarchies. Perhaps I should have a said a necessity in the evolution of a society.

MonCapitan2002
10-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Umm. I just thought of something. Isn't this forum open to the public? Doesn't that mean that random people can see the pictures that have been shared here?

fragment
10-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Umm. I just thought of something. Isn't this forum open to the public? Doesn't that mean that random people can see the pictures that have been shared here?I believe so. Do you think some posters were unaware of that?

MonCapitan2002
10-28-2005, 04:43 PM
I dunno. It's just that I wonder if the posters who posted the revealing images have a strong exhibitionist streak.

fragment
10-28-2005, 04:51 PM
It's just that I wonder if the posters who posted the revealing images have a strong exhibitionist streak.That seems like a reasonable conclusion. Except for that guy who posted the picture of his wife, I guess he's more of an exhibitionist-by-proxy.

xyza
10-28-2005, 05:14 PM
Even though it doesn't say anywhere (as far as I remember) I know certain hosting companies have restrictions on adult content, and as has just been said anyone can see this thread, meaning any age.

That's the only reason I posted the photo I did rather than any of the others I have, that contain high levels of adult content.

viscousmemories
10-28-2005, 05:38 PM
Isn't this forum open to the public? Doesn't that mean that random people can see the pictures that have been shared here?Embedded images (images between [img] tags) are visible to lurkers. You have to be logged in to see attachments (even the thumbnail).

Johnny Pneumatic
10-28-2005, 06:21 PM
Perhaps I should have a said a necessity in the evolution of a society.

You'll need to explain this one then. Why does it matter who leads? Men and women are just as smart, as an average. Obviously there are men smarter than some women and vice versa. Men and women are also comparable in their potential strength ability. Men can get more muscle mass than women without using steroid injections; but this is when we're talking about the grotesque level of "being built" that body builders do. No culture's bulk population of men have ever needed to be, and never have been, so ripped. So women could have managed being the mammoth hunters, warriors etc. as well. Well, the bouncing boobs would have been a problem when running, but they could have tied them up in a leather bra-like strap.

Johnny Pneumatic
10-28-2005, 06:22 PM
That's the only reason I posted the photo I did rather than any of the others I have, that contain high levels of adult content.

PM, PM, PM, PM!!! :yup: :lecher:

viscousmemories
10-28-2005, 06:51 PM
[...]such as the sort of "slutty-slogan Tee" fashion that was in a few seasons ago where some girls as young as 12 were walking around with T-shirts that said "Angel at school, Demon in bed".
I thought I had posted about that here, but maybe it was another forum. I'm far from prudish, but I was pretty shocked to see a preteen girl walking around with sweatpants that had the word "JUICY (http://www.juicycouture.com)" in big bold letters across her butt.

On a lighter note, I'm reminded of the Family Guy episode where Meg's mom takes her shopping and while she's in the fitting room her Mom is trying to pick out a t-shirt for her and it goes something like:

Mom: There's one here that says "Porn Star", or how about "Sperm Dumpster"?
Meg: Alright, give me "Sperm Dumpster".
Mom: That's the spirit!

xyza
10-28-2005, 07:31 PM
PM, PM, PM, PM!!! :yup: :lecher:
:slapface: :P

Johnny Pneumatic
10-28-2005, 07:44 PM
:slapface: :P

:cry:

Crumb
10-28-2005, 07:46 PM
/me considers posting a pic ...

Ha!

Ensign Steve
10-28-2005, 09:34 PM
:blahblah:

More pictures! :hungry:

Adora
10-29-2005, 01:31 AM
I know that there's a whole rest of a paragraph after this, but this was kind of what I was getting at before. Feminism can be too rigid, too ready to cast other women as villains. What you define as 'allowing inequality to occur' may be very different from what another woman defines it as. I would need a fuller definition of what this constitutes in your mind, though, to know if we actually disagree.
Not giving women decent maternity leave contracts perpetuates inequality by the state/business, as does the same policy on men's paternity leave. Being a shallow figurehead who is, as mentioned, "sexy but not sexual" or however you want to phrase it, perpetuates inequality. If they fully and knowingly choose to be such figureheads, then they're even more responsible and complicit for the inequality than if they were being exploited more. Two examples, same problem.

I'm being semantic but, if this is true, then the term 'feminist' is inappropriate.
I agree, but currently, it's the best we've got. Dicks who use the term "equalists" tend more often to be misogynists pretending they're otherwise, in my experience.

I don't think 'it just happens'. It's not like if you were born two towns over, you might have been born into a female dominated society.
Actually, it is. If you were born sufficiently far over, you would be, and people have been. But honestly, I wouldn't want to be. I'd rather be somewhere else where men and women are equal, not one dominating the other. However, if you were born in the Minicoy islands, or pre-migration Ainu Japan, or Mosou, you would have been born into a matriachy. If you were born into the Gerai or one of the other Malaysian tribes similar, you would have been born into one of the most equal societies in the world.

Just because it is as it is now, does not mean it has always been that way everywhere.

In the grand scheme of human history, is it possible that women achieved greater rights at (roughly) the time society was first able to grant them?
I'm not sure what you mean by this sentence. "Greater rights"? Which society? Which culture? Country?

I haven't read Levy's work, but I remain suspicious. If she was interested in raunch culture because it went against everything she stood for as a feminist, does she not have a motive to decry it?
Of course. But what's your point? Someone who sees exploitation that goes against their own code of morals and view of human equality isn't allowed to decry it openly?

Also, you seem to be assuming that raunch culture in inherently bad.
That's because most of it, as I have mentioned, is. In some exceptions it allows women more independence and control over their own lives. Most of it though, is basic exploitation.

I don't think it pretends anything if 'everyone chooses to be involved'.
It does. As mentioned, the girls are ignorant, inebriated, young and dumb, etc etc. Easily exploitable, in other words. You're not going to tell me a drunken sorority girl has the same amount of power in a decision as a rather well-financed filmaker standing behind the camera?

Isn't it more patronising to assume that a sizeable group of women don't know their own minds?
See my comments about people "knowing their own minds" in another thread.

The reasons for it may be misogynistic
They are, which is the whole point.

or they may be biological
Please put down the sociobiology book, and step away from the pseudoscience.

but this behaviour does exist, and has, for centuries, in one form or another.
Blah blah "People have believed in gods for centuries and waged war against each other for centuries in the name of said skybrats that makes it biological and okay" blah blah blah.

You have got to be kidding me.

It is one thing to understand the why of such behaviour, another to characterise it as wrong.
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You heard it here kids. Misogyny: A-OK!

What serves the male may well serve the female, as well.
Glasses be with the checking, please!

Quite obviously, as I have stated, time and time again in this thread, it isn't. When, as stated, the performance of sexuality is just that - a performance - with no meaning for the performer, when they are bored with what they are doing but do it anyway for the money or to "please" the men who benefit from such acts, when they lose any true identity of themselves because it has all been commodified for the benefit of others, which, as I said is the whole point of most of raunch culture, then no, "serving" the men (different from male) does not "serve" the women, in this case.

You want to talk about something that benefits on gender that benefits the other? Try feminism, sometime. Try breaking down macho stereotypes in men that do nothing for the wellbeing of men or women. Try a little logic, sometime.

Is this a contradiction? Isn't 'Strippercise' built on the same 'misogynistic' foundation that Blokesworld is?
No, because, as I said previously, the women do it for themselves. They don't do it so they can go home and give jo-bob a lapdance, which was the only reason they went in the first place. Hell, I know a lesbian who went to some classes. She loved them, and said they made her feel very sexy and sexual.

Some women must take 'Strippercise' and not really know why, while others must appear on Blokesworld and find that experience sexy and liberating.
And if they do the latter, I question how informed they are.

If both of these things were to disappear, then wouldn’t that restrict women from experimenting with their sexuality in these arenas?
One existing already does that. You're not looking at the broader picture here: Blokesworld etc prop up misogynistic values already inherent in society. Strippercise doesn't. Strippercise is a subversion of a phenomenon whereas Blokesworld is just the continuation of it. Blokesworld already restricts women's expression of their sexuality by propagating misogynistic discourses in popular society. If such crap was to disappear there'd be more freedom and space for women to fill that hole themselves, independently, and not within the discourses dictated to them by men, which is no freedom at all.

At its most basic level, it's misogyny and heterosexism. On a more complex level, it's the restriction of the expression of sexuality. I'd rather like Blokesworld to fuck off and let me set up a Yaoicon here in Brisbane instead. By your argument, it would be far more beneficial to women's expression of sexuality, since it's women doing it for women, not women doing it for men.

It becomes clearer in your post to lunachick that you're more concerned with how individual women view these experiences
Not in the least, actually. I'm concerned with individuals chosing, but I'm also concerned with the social which is then impacted by those choices.

Perhaps so, but peer pressure and consumerism are not phenomenon exclusive to the female.
Never said they were. So what's your point?

The manifestations of them may be more overtly sexual in the female than the male, but that's because we, both women and men, continue to view females in a highly sexual manner that has nothing to do with raunch culture.
Actually, it does, since raunch culture positions women as only sexual and only with a sexuality in difference to male heterosexuals.

Even if you don’t know why you’re doing something, it doesn’t necessarily follow that you’re being exploited, either.
Er, yes, actually it does. Especially if, as mentioned, because of your ignorance, you're not being paid, and you're inebreated, or too young to even vote.

How many millions of dollars has Britney Spears made shaking her money maker?
Haha, please. That's cute, but however much she makes, her man owned-and-run record company makes billions more from her moneyshaker, as they do with Jessica Simpson, another one of the firgureheads.

What I’m saying is, there may well be a personal cost associated with pursuing ‘raunch culture’, but it’s possibly offset by the social benefits of such conformity.
Once again, longterm, the evidence says no. For both other people who are being exploited and the figureheads who may make more cash than the 12 year old brat who just buys the Tshirt.

Isn't it reasonable, though, to say that, ultimately, an individual woman controls her own sexuality and can, at best, only be influenced by outside cultural influences to the degree she chooses?
If she doesn't know what that sexuality is, if she doesn't have one herself, no, she can't. Which, as I said, is what raunch culture is about: taking sexuality out of women's hands.

Why assume other women are any less capable?
Because other women aren't as educated as I am. They aren't as intelligent, and didn't live my life. They don't know about their choices. Go to any high school and try to talk to girls in sex-ed classes about learning to masturbate. About learning to take control of their own sexuality. And watch the reactions you get. These are girls who've been conditioned not to be in control of their own sexuality. They then grow up and the role models in their most influential years are girls with no sexuality of their own unless it's a performance for men.

Quite obviously, people who are less capable are being exploited here, in one way or another. Sexism works the same way racism or any other prejudice does: keep those being discriminated against ignorant and they'll be able to be controlled for longer. They'll have a harder time fighting back. They'll have a harder time saying "No". If people aren't educated about their choices, if the voices they listen to day in and day out all come from the one source and all say the same thing, then they're not going to be capable at all of making informed decisions.

Adora
10-29-2005, 01:32 AM
Oh, and VM, can you split this discussion from the original thread?

xyza
10-29-2005, 01:32 AM
:cry:
SP has seen :yup:

Petra
10-29-2005, 02:18 AM
Adora, what if the misogynistic performance porn, where women are nothing more than brainless sex toys for men, was virtual; if it didn't use real people? What would be the cultural impact of that?

Adora
10-29-2005, 03:24 AM
If it's virtual, it's not women in the first place. It's just a representation thereof. There's a big difference between that and actual people being exploited. You seem to have problems grasping this fact.

Petra
10-29-2005, 04:31 AM
So you don't think it has any impact on the promotion or perserverance of negative attitudes and stereotypes regarding women and their sex/gender roles in society?

Adora
10-29-2005, 06:32 AM
Maybe a little, but it's more complex and ambiguous because it's on the level of virtual fantasy, rather than actual condoned exploitation of real humans. When you start working with virtual sexual fantasies of any kind - whether they be completely in someone's head or a completely-fake-construction in pictures or words - you're working with the subconscious levels of the mind that often the fantasiser isn't aware of themselves. A penis becomes not actually a penis, so to speak. Or it still is a penis, but then it's many more things as well.

When you're talking about basic explotation of ignorant vulnerable women, it's real. It's actual women being exploited, and not the minority in-potentia-carry-on affect a virtual sexual fantasy may but regularly may not have on someone who is not the fantasiser in her/his private consumption. Like the difference between enjoying wuxia films where people get run through, and yet still condeming actual violence in a society. The two can quite easily exist in a person, because one is a virtual artistic expression looking to satisfy some unconscious aspect of the individual that may have nothing to do with violence, and the other is, well, reality.

But
11-02-2005, 12:04 AM
:blahblah:

More pictures! :hungry:

Seconded!

:yup:

[edit: heck, I'll post one (dunno if this qualifies as sexy)]

Sweetie
11-02-2005, 01:54 AM
* Crumb considers posting a pic ...

Ha!

Crumb.....such a tease. :melo:

:P

Sweetie
11-02-2005, 01:58 AM
[edit: heck, I'll post one (dunno if this qualifies as sexy)]

Nice butt, But. :yup:

Truly though, nice form. :)

erimir
11-02-2005, 02:03 AM
Ok, now take the same picture, but do it in underwear or nothing, and lower the camera a little bit.

You might also bend over a little bit and look over your shoulder with a sultry look.

Trojan
11-02-2005, 02:15 AM
Ok, now take the same picture, but do it in underwear or nothing, and lower the camera a little bit.

You might also bend over a little bit and look over your shoulder with a sultry look.
Good idea. And Erimir, feel free to post the same photo of yourself. :popcorn:

erimir
11-02-2005, 03:55 AM
I already posted a pic of my bare ass where I was purposely posing to accentuate it :P

Trojan
11-02-2005, 03:58 AM
I already posted a pic of my bare ass where I was purposely posing to accentuate it :P
I've got some searching to do.... :drool:

Ensign Steve
11-02-2005, 04:02 AM
Yeah, it is scrumptious!

Trojan
11-02-2005, 04:10 AM
Yeah, it is scrumptious!
Well I went through this whole thread and never found an ass shot. :sadcheer: Guess I'll mop the halls now.....

erimir
11-02-2005, 04:13 AM
Here ya go:

http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126129&postcount=134

Trojan
11-02-2005, 04:17 AM
Here ya go:

http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126129&postcount=134
:eek: Oh Mercy be God to thee! :paddle: I could just slap some peanut butter on that and call in sick for the day! Thank You for locating it, I mean the pic. :innocent:

pescifish
11-04-2005, 09:42 PM
[edit: heck, I'll post one (dunno if this qualifies as sexy)]Psst, you missed a loop. Nice back, But!

erimir
11-22-2005, 12:29 PM
Hmmmmm...

Still waiting for people to post more pictures of themselves.

Ok, so let's say you can also post sexy pictures of people you know personally. I guess to be nice you should have their permission or know that they wouldn't care, but that's between you and them anyhow.

Anyway, here's the TOP part of a picture of me:
http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/Polo%20Safe.jpg

The bottom is cut off because I'm not wearing pants ;)

I haven't decided whether I would show the full picture. Definitely not if nobody else is gonna show anything interesting.

Sweetie
11-22-2005, 03:01 PM
Dude, you look like 16. That might be pushing it even. :dunno:

erimir
11-22-2005, 09:23 PM
That pic is from a couple weeks ago. I'm 20.

You hurted my feelings :(

Not really tho. Quite a lot of gay guys go for that sort of thing, so it works for me.

Adora
11-22-2005, 10:54 PM
Erimir, you're adorable. *plays with your hair*

Johnny Pneumatic
11-23-2005, 12:39 AM
Dude, you look like 16. That might be pushing it even. :dunno:

And he looks like one of my cousins, well, how one of my cousins looked eight years ago. Said cousin is 20 now. What state did you say you're from, erimir? Not NC, right? :chin:

Sweetie
11-23-2005, 12:45 AM
That pic is from a couple weeks ago. I'm 20.

You hurted my feelings :(

Not really tho. Quite a lot of gay guys go for that sort of thing, so it works for me.

Legal drinking age is nineteen here and I still get carded occasionally, and I'm 27.

Actually, I took some sexy pics once, and in a few of them I looked about fifteen or sixteen. I know what it's like so that's nothing. However, I don't like to play it up. I'll sometimes wear a cute pink top or something, and it looks girlish and lots of guys like that, but I don't want to look fifteen/sixteen. I don't want the guys who would want me because I look that young, for the record.

Just a thought, carry on. :wave:

Shake
11-23-2005, 09:25 PM
I took some sexy pics once...
Well, this thread is the place for them! ;)

Sweetie
11-24-2005, 01:39 AM
Well, this thread is the place for them! ;)

It ain't happening, FYI.

Trojan
11-24-2005, 01:52 AM
Hmmmmm...

Still waiting for people to post more pictures of themselves.

Ok, so let's say you can also post sexy pictures of people you know personally. I guess to be nice you should have their permission or know that they wouldn't care, but that's between you and them anyhow.

Anyway, here's the TOP part of a picture of me:
http://www.unc.edu/~mariop/Polo%20Safe.jpg

The bottom is cut off because I'm not wearing pants ;)

I haven't decided whether I would show the full picture. Definitely not if nobody else is gonna show anything interesting.
Oh Mercy. I know I wouldn't leave a single crumb after I got finished with you! You could make a FORTUNE as a gogoboy at one of KC's clubs!

inyourhonor
11-24-2005, 03:57 AM
This is the only pic I got of myself uploaded on this computer:

Vette106
12-09-2008, 03:25 PM
Since no one else seems to be doing it I guess Ill put up a pic of me naked.

Naru
12-09-2008, 03:29 PM
best first post ever?

Shelli
12-09-2008, 03:33 PM
Please use spoilers for NSFW pics. Thanks.

Shelli
12-09-2008, 03:36 PM
best first post ever?Not by far. :nope:

:tinyrunner:

Pan Narrans
12-09-2008, 03:44 PM
The Nekkid Necromancer has a ring to it...

Shelli
12-09-2008, 03:46 PM
:lol:

beyelzu
12-09-2008, 04:22 PM
best first post ever?

asks the man upon seeing a penis

Naru
12-09-2008, 04:29 PM
best first post ever?

asks the man upon seeing a penis

Is your avatar jealous?

Adam
12-09-2008, 04:35 PM
if I wasn't at work, I'd totally shop Naruto's avatar onto that pic so he's giving that dude a clawjob, and make an "I approve this first poast" macro.

Leesifer
12-09-2008, 06:46 PM
:welcome3: to :ff: Vette106

Can I just ask you something?

WHY? WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

Shelli
12-09-2008, 06:52 PM
Yeah, why did you do that? Where's ur man hair?

:beard:

Adam
12-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Lees, just because you lost the copyright to all your nekkid pics when the Spanish Tourism Board used them in its brochures is no reason to harass the poor dude when he posts his.

Where's ur man hair?

DO NOT WANT

Leesifer
12-09-2008, 07:05 PM
Lees, just because you lost the copyright to all your nekkid pics when the Spanish Tourism Board used them in its brochures is no reason to harass the poor dude when he posts his.

I wonder what happened to those brochures?

Adam
12-09-2008, 07:10 PM
Uck-chay's arage-Gay, but you didn't hear it from me.

Leesifer
12-09-2008, 07:11 PM
I KNEW IT!

Dingfod
12-09-2008, 09:28 PM
http://blog.worldsex.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/Fat_Spiderman.jpg

slimshady2357
12-09-2008, 09:36 PM
http://blog.worldsex.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/Fat_Spiderman.jpg

That pic is just the little red x for me. I went to copy and paste the url from the properties and it had 'fat spiderman' in the name...

Did. Not. Bother.

Ding, you are a sick, sick man.

ChuckF
12-09-2008, 11:34 PM
I KNEW IT!
¡Ah, si! ¡Los tortugas de España! ¡Un folleto turístico escandaloso!

Qingdai
12-09-2008, 11:43 PM
Tortugas?
Kinky!