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alphamale
10-24-2005, 05:25 AM
It's amazing the varied history that this holiday has had.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
Related is "Devil's Night", used in some parts of the country for tricks on people the night before. In Detroit, the nearest the U.S. has to a third-world city, the blacks used to run around on devil's night and commit arson - 185 buildings set afire in 1994. The authorities try to keep a lid on it - nowadays they have a 6am to 6pm curfew for minors, have a volunteer force of 40,000 adults looking for them, and a $500 fine if they're caught violating the curfew.
Wizard
10-25-2005, 12:16 AM
I love Halloween and it's also a Satanic holiday. :yup:
viscousmemories
10-25-2005, 01:20 AM
In Detroit, the nearest the U.S. has to a third-world city, the blacks used to run around on devil's night and commit arson - 185 buildings set afire in 1994.
For a minute there I thought this text was a quote from the Wikipedia entry you cited and I was surprised the editors would let such blatantly racist garbage remain in print. I'm relieved their standards aren't so degraded.
Ensign Steve
10-25-2005, 01:21 AM
I like that movie The Crow.
alphamale
10-25-2005, 01:47 AM
In Detroit, the nearest the U.S. has to a third-world city, the blacks used to run around on devil's night and commit arson - 185 buildings set afire in 1994.
For a minute there I thought this text was a quote from the Wikipedia entry you cited and I was surprised the editors would let such blatantly racist garbage remain in print. I'm relieved their standards aren't so degraded.
Racist? What are you talking about? I think they've got the lid on it now in Detroit, but for many years, it's exactly what happened. I used to live in Toledo, Ohio - 50 miles away, and the city fathers were always scared they'd bring it there. There are many sources to inform you of this on the net - just google on "devil's night" and "detroit" - racism has nothing to do with it.
godfry n. glad
10-25-2005, 03:38 AM
Yeah, alphamale, he's probably got you mixed up with those guys in white robes the ride around with torches and ropes in the middle of the night, terrorizing ordinary folks with their idea of "fun" and "community activism".
viscousmemories
10-25-2005, 04:39 AM
There are many sources to inform you of this on the net - just google on "devil's night" and "detroit" - racism has nothing to do with it.
Close, but more accurately race has nothing to do with it. Thanks for the search suggestion but I was born in Detroit and spent most of my life in Dearborn and Ann Arbor, so I'm aware of the history. The racist garbage I was referring to is your comparing Detroit to a third-world country and referring to "the blacks" running around committing arson. No doubt the city is fairly beaten down but it's nowhere near being a third-world country, and given that they rarely caught the arsonists responsible I'm willing to bet you don't have any evidence that the perps were all black people.
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 04:50 AM
... the blacks used to run around on devil's night and commit arson - 185 buildings set afire in 1994. The authorities try to keep a lid on it - nowadays they have a 6am to 6pm curfew for minors ...
What curfew has Detroit imposed on "the blacks"?
alphamale
10-25-2005, 04:53 AM
There are many sources to inform you of this on the net - just google on "devil's night" and "detroit" - racism has nothing to do with it.
Close, but more accurately race has nothing to do with it. Thanks for the search suggestion but I was born in Detroit and spent most of my life in Dearborn and Ann Arbor, so I'm aware of the history. The racist garbage I was referring to is your comparing Detroit to a third-world country and referring to "the blacks" running around committing arson. No doubt the city is fairly beaten down but it's nowhere near being a third-world country, and given that they rarely caught the arsonists responsible I'm willing to bet you don't have any evidence that the perps were all black people.
Okay, here's a "good" read:
http://www.amren.com/918issue/9108issue.html
Now, don't tell me - they made it all up, right? :D
alphamale
10-25-2005, 04:59 AM
From Wikipedia, "Detroit" entry:
Listed as the second most dangerous city by the Morgan Quitno Corporation's statistics [11] (after Camden, New Jersey), Detroit has been one of the most crime-ridden cities in the United States. Many of these problems can be blamed on the widespread middle-class flight (which has contributed greatly to urban decay), poverty, de facto segregation of the region, and unemployment.
An analysis of crime in downtown Detroit by the Michigan Metropolitan Information Center at Wayne State University found crime rates in the central city lower than rates for the entire nation, state and other large Michigan metro areas — and improving. Detroit also includes many middle-class neighborhoods in which crime is far less prevalent than in more impoverished areas of the city.
Many of the suburbs, in contrast, are among the 25 safest cities in the United States with a population of 75,000 or above. They include Livonia, Troy, Farmington Hills, and Sterling Heights. All four are predominantly white (though some include sizeable black and Asian minorities) and boast much higher household income levels than the city of Detroit.
The city faces hundreds of arsons, often in the city's many abandoned homes, each year on Devil's Night, the evening before Halloween. The Angel's Night campaign, launched in the late 1990s, draws tens of thousands of volunteers to patrol the streets during Halloween week. The effort has largely squelched Devil's Night arson: In 2002, there were just 110 fires during the October 29–31 period, according to city officials, representing a 30 percent decline in total fires and a 41 percent decline in suspicious fires. In 2003, the three-day number was 117.
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:05 AM
Okay, here's a "good" read:
Here's a better one:
Don't Miss Jared Taylor Tonight (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=234804)
Now you're posting racist websites? What's your handle at Stormfront?
alphamale
10-25-2005, 05:16 AM
What's your handle at Stormfront?
ScaralattinisMyPunk! :D
Ensign Steve
10-25-2005, 05:18 AM
Mmmm... Scaralattinis... :martini:
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:20 AM
I guess you missed my other question, alphamale.
Why are you linking to a racist website? It seems to be a big favorite of Don Black's as well.
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:30 AM
Jared Taylor on Hurricane Katrina:
Ninety-nine percent of the white people left New Orleans when the evacuation order went out. Some 80,000 blacks could not or would not leave. Whites did not “leave them behind,” as the editorial-writers keep telling us. No one could have gotten some of them to leave, but if it was anyone’s job to give them the option, it was that of the black-run city government. Of the blacks who stayed, probably only a minority committed crimes, but they were enough to turn the city into a hell hole. Some did unspeakable things: loot hospitals, fire on rescue teams, destroy ambulances. No amount of excuse-making and finger-pointing can paper over degeneracy like that. Black people—and only black people—did these things.
The Superdome and the Convention Center were certainly unpleasant places to spend three or four days, but 50,000 whites would have behaved completely differently. They would have established rules, organized supplies, cared for the sick and dying. They would have organized games for children. The papers would be full of stories of selflessness and community spirit.
Natural disasters usually bring out the best in people. They help neighbors and strangers alike. For blacks—at least the lower-class blacks of New Orleans—disaster was an excuse to loot, rob, rape and kill.
Our rulers and media executives will try to turn the story of Hurricane Katrina into yet another morality tale of downtrodden blacks and heartless whites, but pandering of this kind fools fewer and fewer people. Many whites will realize—some for the first time—that we have Africa in our midst, that utterly alien Africa of road-side corpses, cruelty, and anarchy that they thought could never wash up on our shores.
To be sure, the story of Hurricane Katrina does have a moral for anyone not deliberately blind. The races are different. Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization—any kind of civilization—disappears. And in a crisis, civilization disappears overnight.
Africa in our Midst: Lessons from Katrina (http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/09/africa_in_our_m.php)
This is from the proprietor of the website alphamale wants you to read.
alphamale
10-25-2005, 05:34 AM
I guess you missed my other question, alphamale.
Why are you linking to a racist website? It seems to be a big favorite of Don Black's as well.
American Renaissance is basically news minus the PC filter regarding race, which you have internalized. If 100 blacks riot, then they say "100 blacks riot", while the liberal media will say "100 riot", using the rule that any reportable fact that tends to portray blacks in a negative way will be ommitted.
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:36 AM
If 100 blacks riot, then [amren will] say "100 blacks riot", while the liberal media will say "100 riot" ...
Your friend Jared Taylor seems to have considerably more than that to say in the excerpt above.
viscousmemories
10-25-2005, 05:37 AM
Man Cites Article on Racist Website in Response to Allegations of Parroting Racist Garbage.
Film at eleven.
alphamale
10-25-2005, 05:38 AM
If 100 blacks riot, then [amren will] say "100 blacks riot", while the liberal media will say "100 riot" ...
Your friend Jared Taylor seems to have considerably more than that to say in the excerpt above.
I don't care what Jared Taylor says - I'm not Jared Taylor - are you hallucinating?
alphamale
10-25-2005, 05:39 AM
Man Cites Article on Racist Website in Response to Allegations of Parroting Racist Garbage.
Film at eleven.
And the Wikipedia post above - are they in on the racist conspiracy?
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:42 AM
I don't care what Jared Taylor says - I'm not Jared Taylor - are you hallucinating?
Whose pseudonym is "William Robertson Boggs" then? Yours?
Was "Nathan Bedford Forrest" already taken?
alphamale
10-25-2005, 05:43 AM
I don't care what Jared Taylor says - I'm not Jared Taylor - are you hallucinating?
Whose pseudonym is "William Robertson Boggs" then? Yours?
Was "Nathan Bedford Forrest" already taken?
G'night scallopini! :wink:
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:45 AM
Night. May you dream of Africa washing up on your lily white shores.
viscousmemories
10-25-2005, 05:48 AM
And the Wikipedia post above - are they in on the racist conspiracy?
I must have missed the part of the Wikipedia entry where it explains that "the blacks" are responsible for all the Devil's Night arson. Oh wait, maybe that's because it's not there.
Ensign Steve
10-25-2005, 05:49 AM
That's because wikipedia is part of the vast left-wing conspiracy to erase all records of the blacks being naughty.
Duh.
Adora
10-25-2005, 08:34 AM
I love it when VM gets sarcastic.
Anastasia Beaverhausen
10-25-2005, 08:50 AM
I love it when VM gets sarcastic.
That was post-of-the-year material there, wasn't it?
Adora
10-25-2005, 10:44 AM
He just sends me all a-quivvering when he breaks out the snark.
viscousmemories
10-25-2005, 03:42 PM
American Renaissance is basically news minus the PC filter regarding race, which you have internalized. If 100 blacks riot, then they say "100 blacks riot", while the liberal media will say "100 riot", using the rule that any reportable fact that tends to portray blacks in a negative way will be ommitted.
Until you posted this I thought maybe your original comment was only racist inadvertently and that you just grabbed the first link you found online without checking the credibility of the source. Now that it's obvious that you are endorsing Jared Taylor and American Renaissance with open eyes, your self-identification as a "paleocon" and other borderline racist and overtly nationalistic comments here make a lot more sense. Let's look at your buddy Jared.
Who is Jared Taylor?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Taylor
Samuel Jared Taylor is a paleoconservative, white nationalist journalist. He is the editor of American Renaissance, a journal that addresses issues of race, immigration and their impact on societies in which Whites co-exist with non-Whites. A biannual American Renaissance conference is also held. President of the parent organization, New Century Foundation, Taylor also sits on the advisory board of The Occidental Quarterly and is a director of the National Policy Institute, a Washington-based thinktank.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=215
Taylor entered the active racist scene in 1990, when he began publishing American Renaissance*, a magazine that focuses on alleged links between race and intelligence, and on eugenics, the now discredited "science" of breeding better humans.
"Never in the history of the world has a dominant people thrown open the gates to strangers, and poured its wealth out to aliens," Taylor wrote in his magazine, under the pseudonym Thomas Jackson, in 1991. "All healthy people prefer the company of their own kind." Blacks, Taylor writes, are "crime-prone," "dissipated," "pathological" and "deviant."
Taylor, whose 1992 Paved With Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America makes similar points in a book format, went one further in 1993, speaking at a conference of the racist Council of Conservative Citizens*. (Today, Taylor's New Century Foundation*, which publishes American Renaissance, is intimately related to the council through "common membership, governing bodies, trustees and officers," according to the foundation's tax forms.)
In the late 1990s, he came out with The Color of Crime, a booklet that tries to use crime statistics so as to "prove" that blacks are far more criminally prone than whites. That racist booklet is now a staple of white supremacists like former Klansman David Duke.
One thing that separates Taylor from much of the radical right, however, is his lack of anti-Semitism; he told MSNBC-TV interviewer Phil Donahue in 2003 that Jews "are fine by me" and "look white to me." That view may be related to his wife, who some in the movement have said is Jewish.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0123-02.htm
On Martin Luther King Jr. Day last week, when much of the nation took a holiday, "race-relations expert" Jared Taylor was hard at work. He began at 6:45 a.m. with an interview with a Columbus radio station. At 7:05 he was on the air in Orlando. An hour later his voice greeted morning commuters in Huntingdon, W.Va.
At 10:10 a.m., he was introduced no fewer than four times as "race relations expert Jared Taylor" on Fred Honsberger's call-in show on the Pittsburgh Cable News Channel. Four hours later, he was back on the air with Honsberger on KDKA radio, where he repeated the message he'd been thumping all day: Martin Luther King Jr. was a philanderer, a plagiarist and a drinker who left a legacy of division and resentment, and was unworthy of a national holiday.
What Taylor did not say, and what Honsberger didn't seem to know until I picked up the phone and called in myself, was that Jared Taylor believes black people are genetically predisposed to lower IQs that whites, are sexually promiscuous because of hyperactive sex drives. Race-relations expert Jared Taylor keeps company with a collection of racists, racial "separatists" and far-right extremists.
Taylor heads the Virginia-based New Century Foundation. Its board of directors has included a leader of the Council of Conservative Citizens, successor to the White Citizens Councils of the 1960s. A former board member represented the American Friends of the British National Party, a neo-fascist and anti-Semitic far-right group in England. Another board member is an anti-immigration author who has also reviewed books for a Holocaust denial journal.
Race-relations expert Jared Taylor publishes American Renaissance magazine, which features an array of pseudoscientific studies that purport to show the folly of multiculturalism and the inherent failure of the races to live together. Or, as Taylor once wrote, "If whites permit themselves to be displaced, it is not just the high culture of the West that could disappear but such things as representative government, rule of law and freedom of speech, which whites usually get right and everyone else usually gets wrong."
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 03:58 PM
Well at least he's not married to a Frenchwoman.
davidm
10-25-2005, 05:04 PM
I don’t think Alphamale is a racist, but just a troll. It’s doubtful he believes or even cares about what he writes. He’s just trying to get a rise out of people. In any event, I now have an explanation for his retarded “modern art is a hoax” thread. At first I thought his comments arose from sincere ignorance, but now I understand that he was just trolling.
Of course, it’s always possible that he’s not a troll, and believes what he writes. If so, all the worse for him. But whether he’s a troll or a nincompoop, he hardly flatters himself.
Anyway, any attempt to impugn the so-called “black race” by pointing to arson attacks conducted by a relative handful on Devil’s Night in Detroit will backfire on anyone who makes the attempt. The reason is that the attempt presupposes, first, that there really is something like a “black race” beyond cultural construction, a claim refuted by biology. And second, it presupposes that all the arsonists are black, a claim that can’t be verified. And third, it presupposes that the actions of a few are representative of all: On this account, if a black man commits a crime, that crime indicts all blacks.
For the sake of argument, let’s suppose that all three presuppositions, though self-evidently false, are true. What follows then?
What follows is the indictment of the “white race” as pathologically violent, degenerate and unhealthy, by Alphamale’s own logic.
The New York City draft riots of 1863 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Draft_Riots) were the worst civil disorders in American history. They were carried out exclusively by whites, with blacks the main targets. On Alphamale’s logic, then, the “white race” was indicted by its actions. Let’s see what the “white race” did:
The rioters initially targeted draft offices and police stations, but soon began to attack negroes. The rioters everywhere pursued the blacks with unrelenting rancor and brutally assaulted, tortured, and killed many that fell into their hands. The Colored Orphan Asylum was attacked, sacked, and burned. The Chief of Police was captured by the mob and badly beaten before he escaped, and the office of abolitionist newspaper editor Horace Greeley was destroyed.
The linked Wikipedia article notes that according to the Guinness Book of World Records, the White Man draft riots of 1863 were the bloodiest in history, killing some 1,200 people. The article points out that this is wrong, however: “The worst peace-time riot in an urban area was the Nika riot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riot) of Constantinople in 532 AD which killed approximately 30,000.” The Nika riot, of course, was carried out by, well, white people.
Anyway, continuing with the thought that the misbehavior some whites indicts all whites, which is what Alphamale and his American Renaissance pals would have us believe with respect to blacks, we can add to the White Man’s Hall of Shame, in addition to the draft riots and the Nika riot, the genocides against native Americans, Hitler’s genocide against the Jews and others; Stalin’s genocides, the genocides in the Balkans of the 1990s, just for relatively recent starters.
Obvious conclusion of “Alphalogic”: the “white race” is violence-prone and degenerate. I’m sure he must agree, for he would contradict himself to say anything else.
Also, it’s particularly clueless to comment on Devil’s Night in Detroit without any understanding of Detroit or its history. Since I’m a native of the city, I do know something about it, but that would be the subject of another post. It’s a fact, though, that Detroit, like so many other Rust Belt cities, was a victim of the Great God Capitalism, in this case alloyed with racism. In the 30s and 40s blacks migrated in great numbers from the South, where they were treated barely better than slaves, to the industrial cities of the North in search of work. Probably they were surprised to find that whites in the North were just as racist, if not more so, as whites in the South. Naturally they got the worst jobs and living conditions, and were forced to live segregated in slums (just like the poor predominantly Irish whites in New York City in 1863, who, uh, rioted.) After the war the whites, who had the means, fled to the suburbs, and the job and tax base of the inner city was destroyed, leaving behind the urban ghettos as breeding grounds for crime, as such conditions naturally would be for any people. However, nature may have the last laugh. If Peak Oil theorists are right, we’ll be running out of energy as we go deeper into the 21st century, and the sprawling lilly-white suburbs that were made possible by cheap oil and gas will become unsustainable. That is, they will turn into the slums of the 21st century, where formerly middle-class but now impoverished white homeowners will no doubt riot and commit arson, not just on Devil’s Night but on all nights. After all, from the White Man’s history, we can see how pathologically violent he really is, as soon as we take away his precious TV and SUV. :D
alphamale
10-25-2005, 05:35 PM
Now that it's obvious that you are endorsing Jared Taylor and American Renaissance with open eyes, your self-identification as a "paleocon" and other borderline racist
As Mark Steyn has said, nowadays racism is a medical condition the chief symptom of which is being accused of it, much like being accused of communism in the 1950's and being a witch in the 1600's. :D
D. Scarlatti
10-25-2005, 05:49 PM
I don't think anybody said alphamale was a racist, but the guy that runs amren definitely is. Linking to Jared Taylor's website in support of some claims about "the blacks" raises a couple of questions, however.
viscousmemories
10-25-2005, 06:09 PM
I don’t think Alphamale is a racist, but just a troll. It’s doubtful he believes or even cares about what he writes. He’s just trying to get a rise out of people.
I don't know if he's a racist, but I don't think he's just trolling. I think he's a genuine right-wing conservative propagandist who will call you a big fat liberal poopiehead if you dare to challenge his Limbaughesque regurgitations!
As he said (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=125265#post125265):
I basically use the internet as a forum to publish ideas, something that was not possible before when liberals had a near total lock on the media. But why worry about all this? If you don't like my ideas about this, why, just go elsewhere. Why obsess over it??
True to his word, that whole thread is a prime example of his preference for strictly publishing his biased and often blatantly false opinions over supporting them with facts or argument.
After all, from the White Man’s history, we can see how pathologically violent he really is, as soon as we take away his precious TV and SUV. :D
Fuckin' whitey. :shakefist:
Roland98
10-25-2005, 07:22 PM
I don’t think Alphamale is a racist, but just a troll. It’s doubtful he believes or even cares about what he writes. He’s just trying to get a rise out of people. In any event, I now have an explanation for his retarded “modern art is a hoax” thread. At first I thought his comments arose from sincere ignorance, but now I understand that he was just trolling.
Well, this explains it all:
I used to live in Toledo, Ohio
Everyone knows what assholes former Toledo residents are. It's in the water or something.
“The worst peace-time riot in an urban area was the Nika riot of Constantinople in 532 AD which killed approximately 30,000.” The Nika riot, of course, was carried out by, well, white people.
Lesson learned: Nascar fans are dangerous. :D
Ymir's blood
10-25-2005, 08:18 PM
I don’t think Alphamale is a racist, but just a troll.
That was obvious to me after reading a few of his threads. He posts some jingoistic crap, insults anyone who contradicts him and then starts another thread.
He may believe the garbage he's spouting, but he's still trolling.
Clutch Munny
10-25-2005, 08:22 PM
“The worst peace-time riot in an urban area was the Nika riot of Constantinople in 532 AD which killed approximately 30,000.” The Nika riot, of course, was carried out by, well, white people.
Lesson learned: Nascar fans are dangerous. :D
It's true: the Nika riots were ignited by the Greens and the Blues, society-wide factions but primarily focused on chariot-racing rivalries. Different horsepower, same rednecks.
Sock Puppet
10-25-2005, 08:44 PM
I don’t think Alphamale is a racist, but just a troll.
That was obvious to me after reading a few of his threads. He posts some jingoistic crap, insults anyone who contradicts him and then starts another thread.
He may believe the garbage he's spouting, but he's still trolling.
Yeah, I've concluded he's a little from Column A and a little from Column B. He may believe all of the horseshit he spouts, but he chooses what will get the biggest rise. The smiley finally gave it away. :D
alphamale
10-25-2005, 09:25 PM
OK, kiddies, enough puffballs for now ... go do something useful! :D
pescifish
10-25-2005, 10:12 PM
I can't believe such a great and promising thread title of "Halloween" could be such a pissant thread. alphamale, of all your crap, I think I hate you most for this!
:witcharc:
Ymir's blood
10-25-2005, 10:36 PM
I can't believe such a great and promising thread title of "Halloween" could be such a pissant thread. alphamale, of all your crap, I think I hate you most for this!
:witcharc:
Don't worry about it pesci, come Oct 31 the Dead Will Rise (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=889).
:undead:
Adora
10-26-2005, 12:03 AM
I don’t think Alphamale is a racist, but just a troll.
You know, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 02:43 AM
Um, my birthday's on Halloween and, as a white guy, I'm all thumbs. Could somebody arrange for one of those evil, black people to come light my birthday candles for me? Seems like they're the most skilled.
CE.
Ensign Steve
10-26-2005, 02:44 AM
:laugh:
alphamale
10-26-2005, 04:47 AM
I can't believe such a great and promising thread title of "Halloween" could be such a pissant thread. alphamale, of all your crap, I think I hate you most for this!
:witcharc:
I started out the thread discussing the holiday's history, and mentioned a group of people who were trying to ruin it. Then the PC brigade came in and wrecked the thread. :wink:
viscousmemories
10-26-2005, 04:54 AM
I started out the thread discussing the holiday's history, and mentioned a group of people who were trying to ruin it.
People here can read your content-free OP and appeals to white nationalist websites for themselves, Archie. You can't make your posts look any more thoughtful and coherent by waving your hands and muttering about PC liberal boogeyman kicking sand in your face.
alphamale
10-26-2005, 05:18 AM
My OP wasn't content-free, meathead. In a forum called "freethought", I feel empowered to state opinions without first carefully examining them for violations of the PC Canon On Permissible Thoughts. There is no doubt that detroit has been a declining city for a long time (as has been Toledo and many eastern and midwestern cities), there is no doubt that Devil's Night has been traditionally celebrated with arson in Detroit, and - let's not kid ourselves, shall we? - there's no doubt that it's black teenagers that did the burning.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 05:31 AM
So, teenagers are the way to go? Cool, they'll probably work cheaper than an older, professional, black arsonist.
alphamale
10-26-2005, 05:46 AM
So, teenagers are the way to go? Cool, they'll probably work cheaper than an older, professional, black arsonist.
Older, professional, black arsonists are in it for the money, not "fun".
viscousmemories
10-26-2005, 05:52 AM
In a forum called "freethought", I feel empowered to state opinions without first carefully examining them for violations of the PC Canon On Permissible Thoughts.
Yep, you got it. You're empowered to state your opinions and I'm empowered to express repugnance at your opinions. That's how it works. There's an interesting thread here (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3929) about how little real thought goes into most people's use of so-called political correctness as a catch-all derogatory term.
In the post prior to mine, you said "I started out the thread discussing the holiday's history, and mentioned a group of people who were trying to ruin it."
Here's you "discussing the holiday's history":
It's amazing the varied history that this holiday has had.
Well; that's a deep subject. Then you "mentioned a group of people who were trying to ruin it":
Related is "Devil's Night", used in some parts of the country for tricks on people the night before. In Detroit, the nearest the U.S. has to a third-world city, the blacks used to run around on devil's night and commit arson - 185 buildings set afire in 1994. The authorities try to keep a lid on it - nowadays they have a 6am to 6pm curfew for minors, have a volunteer force of 40,000 adults looking for them, and a $500 fine if they're caught violating the curfew.
Hmm... in Detroit, there sprung up a tradition of burning down (usually abandoned) buildings on Devil's Night. This is your idea of a group of people trying to ruin Halloween? Do you think Cindy Lou Who lived in one of those old buildings?
[...] and - let's not kid ourselves, shall we? - there's no doubt that it's black teenagers that did the burning.
Of course given Detroit's racial demographics the probability that the arsonists were black is high, but despite your insistence there's no way to be certain of it. Besides, as davidm explained fairly well, even if it's true it's a barely interesting point of fact. That you think it's important says more about you than it says about black people.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 06:35 AM
Older, professional, black arsonists are in it for the money, not "fun".
Wow! Those blacks sure are smart. Older, white arsonists are usually in it just for the kicks...
Ensign Steve
10-26-2005, 02:12 PM
Halloween used to be cool when it was all about the arson. But then they had to make it all commercial.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 02:25 PM
Halloween used to be cool when it was all about the arson. But then they had to make it all commercial.
Yeah, I long for the good old days, too. Remember when black and white people used to burn down shit together?
livius drusus
10-26-2005, 02:31 PM
Go back to Russia, ya commie.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 02:50 PM
Go back to Russia, ya commie.
If dreaming of a world where black and white people commit violent felonies together makes me a commie, well, colour me red, Comrade.
Stormlight
10-26-2005, 02:59 PM
Go back to Russia, ya commie.
If dreaming of a world where black and white people commit violent felonies together makes me a commie, well, colour me red, Comrade.
Yeah well, that's because you're so brainwashed by the liberal media! :wink:
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 03:07 PM
Yeah well, that's because you're so brainwashed by the liberal media! :wink:
Yeah, yeah, I know. I really need to harness my hate towards something productive. Is the Michigan militia still hiring?
livius drusus
10-26-2005, 03:08 PM
If dreaming of a world where black and white people commit violent felonies together makes me a commie, well, colour me red, Comrade.
:hippie: :pinko: :pacpinky: :pinkpanther: :pinkele:
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 03:10 PM
That's some nice colouring :yup: .
livius drusus
10-26-2005, 03:15 PM
You're sweet not to point out that a line of smilies is a poor substitute for droll repartee. Just for that, I'll join together with a couple of black friends and burn your house down in celebration of your birthday.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 03:19 PM
Finally!
Well, I've been commandeering the mob for heretic hunting, but I think we can make a side trip to whoever needs something set on fire. :mob:
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 03:42 PM
As long as there's some black people in the mob. They're the best at burning stuff, you see...
No no no, as the smiley indicates, only communists burn stuff.
Carnivale Ed
10-26-2005, 04:19 PM
You should talk to alphamale. He has a whole different theory.
Someone with a different story? HERETIC!!!! Where is he? Since the commies are busy burning things, I'll send these folks: :angrymob:
D. Scarlatti
10-26-2005, 05:14 PM
"Archie (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125627&postcount=47)"?
Ensign Steve
10-26-2005, 05:26 PM
Who's Archie?
Once again I find myself behind the learning curve. :sigh:
wei yau
10-26-2005, 05:27 PM
Perhaps Jughead would have been too insulting?
Sock Puppet
10-26-2005, 06:33 PM
The ref. is to Archie Bunker, I think. And alphamale isn't nearly that articulate.
D. Scarlatti
10-26-2005, 06:35 PM
The ref. is to Archie Bunker, I think.
Aha. So "Meathead" was too insulting as well, I guess.
viscousmemories
10-26-2005, 08:17 PM
I referred to alphamale as Archie after the loveable old bigot from TV's All in the Family (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066626/), and as expected he referred to me as "Meathead" in his reply, Archie's derogatory epithet for his pesky liberal son-in-law.
D. Scarlatti
10-26-2005, 08:26 PM
Ah - I missed that too. Goes to show I should be reading Archie's posts more carefully.
alphamale
10-26-2005, 09:47 PM
Ah - I missed that too. Goes to show I should be reading Archie's posts more carefully.
With you, it's probably that or jerk yourself off. :D
pescifish
10-26-2005, 10:48 PM
Don't worry about it pesci, come Oct 31 the Dead Will Rise (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=889).
:undead: :witch: One can only hope. :witchfly:
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