American or not?

[Leesifer]

In my thread " A Question for American People", Carlos replied with these comments:

"A Question for American People"

Why not more aproppiate:
" A Question to USA people"

Thanks,
Carlos


When you used "American" , you mean people from USA?

So, people who live in the USA, do you call yourselves "American" or something else?

Just curious really.

[alphamale]

In my thread " A Question for American People", Carlos replied with these comments:

"A Question for American People"

Why not more aproppiate:
" A Question to USA people"

Thanks,
Carlos


When you used "American" , you mean people from USA?

So, people who live in the USA, do you call yourselves "American" or something else?

Just curious really.

"People from USA" is more politically correct bullshit. Mexicans also refer to americans as norte americanos, as opposed to just americans. The liberal elite has tried to pick up and popularize the "People from USA", but most americans aren't buying it.

[beyelzu]

of course we call ourselves americans.

some people argue that it is wrong to call someone from the us an american because it is somehow exclusionary to every one living in North and South America or some shit. Not a strawman, it was in my anthropology book and i argued with my anthro teacher about this point at uga. anyway, they overlook the words northamerican and south american and the fact that the americas are two continents, not one.


but some people definitely do bitch about us calling ourselves american.

[beyelzu]

please do not assume that i and alphamale are in complete agreement on this issue.

:tmgrin:

i for example know of no liberal left movement to use the words people of the us for american.

and i for one dont care that spanish speaking people use the words norteamericano, a little newsflash: other languages dont necessarily use the same words we do and who gives a shit.

[Leesifer]

I would never assume such a thing beyelzu! :D

[godfry n. glad]

Heh...

Yeah, I use "American".

When overseas in Asia (Japan, China and central Asia) and asked where I lived, I'd usually respond with "the States." That usually got a puzzled look, so I'd qualify it with, "the United States." To which I either got a puzzled look or a look of recognition, followed by, "Ah! American!?"

What usually followed that was even more amusing to me, because it was often followed by a version of "es stat?" The question, as I learned, being "what state?" Of course, when I told them, they returned to the puzzled look. I had then to reference California and "north" to them.

"American" is how most of the rest of the world refers to those from my country, the United States of America. Besides, from my experience, those from Latin America, or even Canada, do not refer to themselves as "American", either. They tend to be Paraguan, Argentinian, El Salvadoran, or whatever nation in which it is they are citizens.

[alphamale]

i for example know of no liberal left movement to use the words people of the us for american.


E.g., read USA Today, the uber-liberal national newspaper. Everywhere the vast majority of people would use american, they'll use some variant of U.S.A.

[alphamale]

and i for one dont care that spanish speaking people use the words norteamericano, a little newsflash: other languages dont necessarily use the same words we do and who gives a shit.

I don't give a shit either - my main point was how the american liberal elite were once again attempting to distort the very language for politically correct reasons.

[viscousmemories]

The USA Today uses a variant of USA to refer to the USA? Outrageous!

I call myself an American because that's how I was raised. I don't really care how others label me.

[godfry n. glad]

i for example know of no liberal left movement to use the words people of the us for american.


E.g., read USA Today, the uber-liberal national newspaper. Everywhere the vast majority of people would use american, they'll use some variant of U.S.A.

Where the fuck does he get these twisted ideas?

[ChuckF]

E.g., read USA Today, the uber-liberal national newspaper. Everywhere the vast majority of people would use american, they'll use some variant of U.S.A.
Wrong.

American skeleton racer Eric Bernotas took a major step toward securing an Olympic berth Thursday, winning a World Cup race on the Lake Placid track for the second consecutive season and amid some controversy. (source (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/winter/2005-11-17-roundup_x.htm))

It was one of the few coffee studies not funded by industry — federal taxpayers picked up the more than $1 million tab. (If you think that's a lot of money, consider that more than half of Americans drink three cups or more a day). (source (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-11-17-decaf-coffee_x.htm))

"God's torch is passing to Asia, and he is performing many miracles in China," says American missionary David Lin, a founder of Great King Ministry of Huntington Beach, Calif. (source (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-11-16-china-churches_x.htm))

And those are the ones from TODAY. Do you ever bore of being an idiot?

[livius drusus]

I refer to myself as "American" because it was the common descriptor in my childhood. My first school was the American School of Milan, my mom was in the American Women's Association of Rome, my Italian friends described me as "Americana" to their friends.

In French, however, I say I'm from les Etats Unis and when I used to speak Spanish (for about a year in college before I stopped practicing and it all collapsed back into my native Italian) I'd call myself Norteamericana.

[ChuckF]

In French, however, I say I'm from les Etats Unis
In French, je viens du Canada. :P

[Shake]

Grew up hearing my fellow citizens referred to as Americans, by other citizens and foreigners alike. So why would I think any different?

[alphamale]

From today's USA Today, ChuckFuck! Yessssssss chuckee there's a few "americans" but many more "U.S."s.

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — U.S. Special Forces soldiers hunting Taliban and foreign fighters in southern Afghanistan say they are encountering a fiercer and more organized adversary than last year, and one that is far from being near collapse as predicted by an American general in April.

U.S. Marines with First Platoon, Fox Company, fire a mortar in the Kunar Provence, Afghanistan, in August.
U.S. Army

The commander and officers of the 1st Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group — an elite counterinsurgency unit known as the Desert Eagles — provided the assessment in a recent video-teleconference briefing here with USA TODAY from battalion headquarters in Kandahar.

The report calls into question plans to replace most, if not all, U.S. forces in the volatile south next year with NATO troops that will not conduct the same aggressive counterinsurgency operations.

The troubling unrest in a country that held successful elections and appeared to have quelled the insurgency comes amid heightened concern in Washington over the conflict in Iraq, which is overshadowing Afghanistan.

In April, Army Lt. Gen. David Barno, then senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan, predicted the insurgency would largely collapse within about a year. But this year has been the bloodiest since the 2001 invasion for the 18,000 U.S. forces. In 2005, 87 U.S. troops have died, nearly half the 186 killed since the war began. In July, 19 Americans died when insurgents downed a U.S. helicopter searching for four Navy SEALs in eastern Afghanistan. Three SEALs were killed.

Afghan officials say much fighting remains to be done. "Our concern is that whoever takes over those areas will have to engage in counterinsurgency," says Ashraf Haidari, an Afghan Embassy spokesman in Washington. Insurgent violence "has increased since last year, and we expect more terrorist attacks."

Wednesday, Afghan Defense Minister Rahim Wardak told the Associated Press that terrorist attacks now resemble the violence in Iraq. This week, three suicide bombings in Kabul, the capital, killed 10 people, including a U.S. soldier and a German peacekeeper.

Lt. Col. Donald Bolduc, commander of the Desert Eagles, said in the October briefing that guerrilla fighting has gained strength since last year. The unit is on its fourth tour. "The guys would tell you that this is a different enemy than they saw before," he said.

American and Afghan forces have prevailed in battle, but Bolduc warned: "If we leave here before we have trained an effective Afghan national security force that's where the insurgency will probably have a pretty successful go at turning the tide."

NATO spokesman James Appathurai says U.S. forces in the south will be "significantly reduced" next year. The alliance's rules of engagement "mean active and robust defense. But it doesn't mean offensive, long-term operations," he says.

Retired U.S. general Barry McCaffrey, who toured Afghanistan in August, is concerned. "NATO forces are in most cases going to be thin gruel compared to the U.S. (forces) they will replace," he says.

[ChuckF]

God damn that liberal freedom-hating UNITED STATES ARMY (http://www.army.mil/).

The survival rate for U.S. servicemembers wounded in Iraq has reached 90 percent, higher than in any previous war, and 10 points higher than in the 1991 Persian Gulf War.
(source (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?article=33032&section=104))

Why, the word "America" doesn't even appear in that article!

“U.S. Army Wounded Warrior Program” Assists Soldiers (http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=8185)
That's from a curiously named "US Army Press Release."

Oh noes! The liberals are even loose in the United States Army Field Band (http://www.army.mil/fieldband/)!!!

Run alphamale! Ruuuuuun!

[ChuckF]

omigodomigodomigodomigod

The Official Website for the United States Marines (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/frontpagenews)

The United States Navy (http://www.navy.mil/)

Perhaps worst of all...the President of the UNITED STATES (http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/).

Why, oh why does he hate freedom so?

[Trojan]

If ever I get to visit a foreign country of course I would identify myself as an American. (But only if asked!) I assume people from Mexico, Canada, Panama, Uruguay all would identify themselves with the name of their homeland, regardless of how ashamed they may be of it.

[nixon]

I suspect that that in any instance where the paper doesn't fully support the gov't action, they will tend to paint that as US which is looked at as more official VS American which is more descriptive of the people rather than the official gov't. Or maybe since the army refers to itself as the US army rather than the American army it is used out of respect for the military.

[Leesifer]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I truly wasn't sure if I'd made a faux pas, considering it was Carlos that brought the subject up.

I've seen, on another board, people referring to USAers rather than American.

[beyelzu]

I would never assume such a thing beyelzu! :D
good to know :tmgrin:

[erimir]

I call myself American. I think United Statian just sounds dumb, although I have heard it proposed before. Maybe we should have chosen a different name for the country that made it so there was a more obvious nationality term that wasn't shared with the continent. But then again, it's not really important, you can clarify if you want.

In Spanish, you can also call yourself estadounidense but I haven't actually heard anyone say that in classes or when I was in Costa Rica. It might be used for referring to the government more so than citizens of the US. You probably would get a favorable reaction to calling yourself that in Latin America tho... not sure. I didn't try.

Wouldn't norteamericano also refer to Canadians (and perhaps Mexicans, depending on how you think of North America vs. Central America) and thus have the same problem as americano?

Also keep in mind, besides the fact that the US Armed Forces themselves refer to themselves that way, that saying U.S. may be chosen for brevity. Believe it or not, sometimes they need to save space!

[TomJoe]

It's only a matter of time before we invade Canada, eh. So then we can do away with the notion of North America altogether. Then we'll force the countries of South America to change the name of their continent. Why? Because Ann Coulter says we can, that's why!

[TomJoe]

I've seen, on another board, people referring to USAers rather than American.

Probably because they're retarded. Sort of like the :slide: smilie.

[godfry n. glad]

It's only a matter of time before we invade Canada, eh. So then we can do away with the notion of North America altogether. Then we'll force the countries of South America to change the name of their continent. Why? Because Ann Coulter says we can, that's why!

"Political Science" by Randy Newman

[slimshady2357]

I'm from Canada and no, I would never, ever call myself 'American'. And I would never say I'm from America either. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've heard either refer to something other than the USA.

I'm Canadian. :canada:

Hoser.

[Legs]

I truly wasn't sure if I'd made a faux pas, considering it was Carlos that brought the subject up.



:laugh:

[Legs]

I'm from Canada and no, I would never, ever call myself 'American'. And I would never say I'm from America either. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've heard either refer to something other than the USA.

I'm Canadian. :canada:

Hoser.

Are you a Mountie? :smitten:

[Ensign Steve]

People from the US are American. So are people from the rest of North, Central, and South America. So it is appropriate to call US people Americans, just not Teh Only True AmericansTM.

When the people at Customs and Immigration ask what for our country of residence, most of us say "United States" not "America."

[godfry n. glad]

I'm from Canada and no, I would never, ever call myself 'American'. And I would never say I'm from America either. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've heard either refer to something other than the USA.

I'm Canadian. :canada:

Hoser.

Are you a Mountie? :smitten:

I'd bet that depends upon who wants to be the mounter. :P

[Ensign Steve]

:roflmao:

[viscousmemories]

Probably because they're retarded. Sort of like the :slide: smilie.
:glare::glare::glare::glare::glare::glare: :glare::glare::glare::glare::glare:
:glare::glare::glare::glare::glare::glare: :glare::glare::glare::glare::glare:
:glare::glare::glare::glare::glare::glare: :glare::glare::glare::glare::glare:

[Carlos]

People from the US are American. So are people from the rest of North, Central, and South America. So it is appropriate to call US people Americans, just not Teh Only True AmericansTM.

When the people at Customs and Immigration ask what for our country of residence, most of us say "United States" not "America."

BINGO!

I was waiting to see the real point of the OP.

When I read the title of Lesifer's thread "" A Question for American People" and went in, I noticed it was about a celebration of USA, directed only to USA people.

I am from America , South America , then my questions were pertinent.

Maybe you "americans" should question your education in this subject.

Thanks,
Carlos

[Carlos]

If you want to know more about my "education" on the subject , please check this link . I already discussed this topic in another skeptical forum.

http://skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=619&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=centralamerica+northamerica+continents&start=40

Thanks,
Carlos

[alphamale]

People from the US are American. So are people from the rest of North, Central, and South America. So it is appropriate to call US people Americans, just not Teh Only True Americans

No dumbass - the people from Mexico are Mexicans, the people from Bolivia are Bolivians, and only people from America are Americans.

[alphamale]

Maybe you "americans" should question your education in this subject.

Maybe you should eat a taco and choke. :pinata:

[Carlos]

Maybe you "americans" should question your education in this subject.

Maybe you should eat a taco and choke. :pinata:

That is another stereotype your "education" centers teachs you.

That all latinamericans are from Mexico and they must eat tacos as their food.

LOL

Thanks,
Carlos

[Jesus Christ]

From today's USA Today, ChuckFuck! Yessssssss chuckee there's a few "americans" but many more "U.S."s.

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — U.S. Special Forces soldiers hunting Taliban and foreign fighters in southern Afghanistan say they are encountering a fiercer and more organized adversary than last year, and one that is far from being near collapse as predicted by an American general in April.

Another AMERICAN. The US Special Forces, by the way, is the correct way to say it. It's how people in the US Army refer to it. USASOC (United States Army Special Operation Command) is like three miles from my barracks. This is also how the Paraglide (the Ft Bragg newspaper) refers to US Special Forces. They use U.S.

U.S. Marines with First Platoon, Fox Company, fire a mortar in the Kunar Provence, Afghanistan, in August.
U.S. Army

Again, the correct way to use those terms. We don't refer to it as the American Army here, or anywhere in the US amongst people who know what they're talking about: It is the United States Army.


All your uses of US here are in terms of the military--which is the correct way of saying it, not politically correct, but real correct.

So, basically, you're flat out wrong. That's what you get for being a flat-out reactionary.

[Legs]

I am from America , South America , then my questions were pertinent.



I heard you were from New Jersey :rolleye2:

[LadyShea]

What else would we call ourselves, United Statesians? I use both, actually. Either "I am American" or "I am from the US", depends on the structure of the sentence. I never say "I am from America"

We are the only American country with "America" in the name, aren't we? Why would someone from Columbia use their continent rather than country? Makes no sense to me.

[alphamale]

What else would we call ourselves, United Statesians? I use both, actually. Either "I am American" or "I am from the US", depends on the structure of the sentence. I never say "I am from America"

We are the only American country with "America" in the name, aren't we? Why would someone from Columbia use their continent rather than country? Makes no sense to me.

The historical resaon is probably that the american colonists formed a federation after the revolutionary war. Place names like Virginia and Massachusetts existed long before the creation of the U.S. Therefore, there never evolved a name in the early years for the territory that became the U.S. in 1787, as there had for places like Bolivia and mexico. The official name of Mexico is Estados Unidos Mexicanos (United Mexican States).

I was on a puerto rican website where someone called me a united statian. The bottom line is that the liberal elite, which is always politicizing the language by inventing politically correct words and phrases (like "the war on terrorism") is trying to substitute U.S.A. for america, probably as part of their campaign to promote "multi-cultural" balkanization and the idea that america is only a legal entity, not a nation.

[viscousmemories]

The bottom line is that the liberal elite, which is always politicizing the language by inventing politically correct words and phrases (like "the war on terrorism") is trying to substitute U.S.A. for america [...]
At first I thought you were just babbling incoherently again when you brought this up, but when you proved it by pasting that USA Today article illuminating the liberal American military's overuse of "US" to preface the names of all the different branches of service, it's undeniable. Clearly this bastardization of the American Special Forces, American Army, and American Marines by referring to them as the US Special Forces, US Army and US Marines has gone on long enough.

[ChuckF]

The bottom line is that the liberal elite, which is always politicizing the language by inventing politically correct words and phrases (like "the war on terrorism") is trying to substitute U.S.A. for america, probably as part of their campaign to promote "multi-cultural" balkanization and the idea that america is only a legal entity, not a nation.
I for one salute your devotion to this stupid hypothesis, despite its demonstrated evidentiary failure. Your Nationalepartei would be proud.

BTW, are you saying that the "liberal élite" coined the term "war on terrorism"?

[alphamale]

I for one salute your devotion to this stupid hypothesis, despite its demonstrated evidentiary failure. Your Nationalepartei would be proud.

BTW, are you saying that the "liberal élite" coined the term "war on terrorism"?

Comic intermission by you is always appreciated! :D

[Carlos]

I am from America , South America , then my questions were pertinent.



I heard you were from New Jersey :rolleye2:

Where do you heard that?
Who told you that?
I am curious.

Did you forget you told me of being in Quito and the Galapagos Islands, at my country?

Thanks,
Carlos

[LadyShea]

The bottom line is that the liberal elite, which is always politicizing the language by inventing politically correct words and phrases (like "the war on terrorism") is trying to substitute U.S.A. for america [...]
At first I thought you were just babbling incoherently again when you brought this up, but when you proved it by pasting that USA Today article illuminating the liberal American military's overuse of "US" to preface the names of all the different branches of service, it's undeniable. Clearly this bastardization of the American Special Forces, American Army, and American Marines by referring to them as the US Special Forces, US Army and US Marines has gone on long enough.

Um, WTF? I have alphamale on ignore, but saw this quote and I flat out don't understand the argument.

We are the United States of America, how is choosing one abbreviation/shortening over another politicization?

[Carlos]

Because America is not the United States of America.

Simple at that.

Thanks,
Carlos

[Legs]

Where do you heard that?
Who told you that?
I am curious.

Did you forget you told me of being in Quito and the Galapagos Islands, at my country?

Thanks,
Carlos

You have absolutely no sense of humour, I feel sorry for you & your angry little life. :sadcheer:

[Crumb]

The bottom line is that the liberal elite, which is always politicizing the language by inventing politically correct words and phrases
Could you perhaps name a few members of the "liberal elite" and a short list of the PC phrases they invented?

[alphamale]

The bottom line is that the liberal elite, which is always politicizing the language by inventing politically correct words and phrases
Could you perhaps name a few members of the "liberal elite" and a short list of the PC phrases they invented?

Here are some:

"women's clinic" = abortion mill
"affirmative action" = government mandated racial discrimination
"multiculturalism" = balkanization
"right to chose" = abortion
"war on terrorism" = war on islamofascism
"n word" = nigger
"pay equity" = "affirmative action" in salaries
"exit strategy" = cut and run
"prevailing wage" = union wage
"racism" = all-purpose put-down when losing an argument
"undocumented immigrants" = illegal aliens
"inappropriate" = immoral
"the patriarchy" = white males
"the farrrr ultra uber way-out hard right wing" = conservatives

[Carlos]

Where do you heard that?
Who told you that?
I am curious.

Did you forget you told me of being in Quito and the Galapagos Islands, at my country?

Thanks,
Carlos

You have absolutely no sense of humour, I feel sorry for you & your angry little life. :sadcheer:
Oh! You were telling an "American" joke in your "American" style?

I see. No problem.

Jajajajajajajajaja

Thanks,
Carlos

[Crumb]

Here are some:
Where are the names of their inventors? :scratch:

[Legs]

Oh! You were telling an "American" joke in your "American" style?



I'm not American :hand:

[Carlos]

Oh! You were telling an "American" joke in your "American" style?



I'm not American :hand:

No ; you are from New Jersey.

Thanks,
Carlos

[Jesus Christ]

"women's clinic" = abortion mill
[/quote]
Abortion mill is an incredibly loaded term, and it's not representative of what a women's clinic is.

"affirmative action" = government mandated racial discrimination

Proving you know absolutely nothing about it.

"multiculturalism" = balkanization
"right to chose" = abortion

Further proof.

"war on terrorism" = war on islamofascism
GW Bush coined this term, and the correct meaning is "killing sand niggers."

"n word" = nigger

Which is such a good word to have in our vocabulary.
"pay equity" = "affirmative action" in salaries

Dead wrong.

"exit strategy" = cut and run

Dead wrong here. Exit strategy is how we plan on leaving, and usually requires timetables, and under what circumstances, etc. Something that really should be known.

"prevailing wage" = union wage

:doh:

"racism" = all-purpose put-down when losing an argument
:doh:

"inappropriate" = immoral

It is inappropriate to wear jeans to a formal occassion. It is not immoral. It is immoral, but apparently not terribly inappropriate, to start a war with no real cause.

"the patriarchy" = white males
"the farrrr ultra uber way-out hard right wing" = conservatives
More like..neocon lying assholes.

[alphamale]

"women's clinic" = abortion mill

Abortion mill is an incredibly loaded term, and it's not representative of what a women's clinic is.

It's exactly what a "women's clinic" is - this formulation was invented by Planned Parenthood. The minor other services offered are readily available from physicians and other health service providers, and the "women's clinics" wouldn't be in business except for their cash cow - abortions. It's "funny" that even to it's proponents, the very idea of abortion is so repugnant that they can't even bring THEMSELVES to say the word, hence also "A woman's right to chose(abortion)", "terminating a pregnancy (aborting a fetus)", "reproductive (abortion) rights" - they invented a whole glossary of new words and phrases in order not to have to use the "A" word.


"affirmative action" = government mandated racial discrimination

Proving you know absolutely nothing about it.

Anti-white discrimination, pure and simple, implemented a million times a day in schools, workplaces, government agencies, everywhere. Denying it is like saying there's not grass, trees, sky, people or automobiles - not worthy of serious reply to anyone who is in the double-think world of saying it doesn't exist.


"multiculturalism" = balkanization
"right to chose" = abortion

Further proof.
Look at the speeches, demonstration signs, or writings of any pro-abortionist who ever existed! :D


"war on terrorism" = war on islamofascism
GW Bush coined this term, and the correct meaning is "killing sand niggers."

No he didn't, it has been used for years by the non-PC brainwashed and was used for the first time by Bush in a speech only recently.


"n word" = nigger

Which is such a good word to have in our vocabulary.

It isn't a good word, but it is an example of verbal "affirmative action" - words like fag, honky, etc appear in the media, but people are reduced to the verbal games used for two year olds when it comes to refering to america's precious, sensitive, super-citizen blacks.

"pay equity" = "affirmative action" in salaries

Dead wrong.

Exactly correct - based on feminist theories, government bureaucrats who wouldn't have a clue about running a business arbitrarily set pay, instead of letting the market set it.


"exit strategy" = cut and run

Dead wrong here. Exit strategy is how we plan on leaving, and usually requires timetables, and under what circumstances, etc. Something that really should be known.

Wars aren't won on "timetables", idiot. Did you ever hear of anyone predicting when a war would be won? A war is won when it's won. Setting a "timetable" is simply a euphemism for withdrawal and defeat.


"the patriarchy" = white males
"the farrrr ultra uber way-out hard right wing" = conservatives
More like..neocon lying assholes.

You are either a anti-white racist or a self-hating white uncle tom.

[Jesus Christ]

"women's clinic" = abortion mill

Abortion mill is an incredibly loaded term, and it's not representative of what a women's clinic is.

It's exactly what a "women's clinic" is - this formulation was invented by Planned Parenthood. The minor other services offered are readily available from physicians and other health service providers, and the "women's clinics" wouldn't be in business except for their cash cow - abortions. It's "funny" that even to it's proponents, the very idea of abortion is so repugnant that they can't even bring THEMSELVES to say the word, hence also "A woman's right to chose(abortion)", "terminating a pregnancy (aborting a fetus)", "reproductive (abortion) rights" - they invented a whole glossary of new words and phrases in order not to have to use the "A" word.

Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion clinics.
Abortion clinics.
Used in a sentence: "One of my best friends had an abortion. I took her to the abortion clinic." The preceding sentence is true, by the way.

Abortion is a loaded term, and it is most often latched onto by viscious anti-woman people such as yourself. The negative connotations exist solely due to the malign influence of said woman-haters, and serve as a very painful reminder to the woman seeking an abortion exactly what those rapid, vocal anti-woman idiots will call them. There is no need to revel in the term, to flaunt it to the women who are going through an already painful ordeal. Compassion is, despite your best efforts, merited in some circumstances.


"affirmative action" = government mandated racial discrimination

Proving you know absolutely nothing about it.

Anti-white discrimination, pure and simple, implemented a million times a day in schools, workplaces, government agencies, everywhere. Denying it is like saying there's not grass, trees, sky, people or automobiles - not worthy of serious reply to anyone who is in the double-think world of saying it doesn't exist.
[/quote]
"Proving" it with something other than what you heard listening to Rush Limbaugh this morning during one of his more lucid moments means nothing.

"multiculturalism" = balkanization
"right to chose" = abortion

Further proof.
Look at the speeches, demonstration signs, or writings of any pro-abortionist who ever existed! :D
[/quote]
Having been there, and done that, I'm going to have to once again show that you're a lying sack of shit, or at least an ignorant pigfucker. Assuming, of course, you have a ready supply of tranquilizer darts.
quote]
"war on terrorism" = war on islamofascism
GW Bush coined this term, and the correct meaning is "killing sand niggers."[/QUOTE]

No he didn't, it has been used for years by the non-PC brainwashed and was used for the first time by Bush in a speech only recently.
[/quote]
Non-PC brainwashed? That means neo-cons who lack a brain to wash? Once again, this furthers my overall point.
quote]
"n word" = nigger

Which is such a good word to have in our vocabulary.[/QUOTE]

It isn't a good word, but it is an example of verbal "affirmative action" - words like fag, honky, etc appear in the media, but people are reduced to the verbal games used for two year olds when it comes to refering to america's precious, sensitive, super-citizen blacks.
[/quote]
I have met no white person who cared if someone called him a honky.
I have never met a gay person who cared about fag.
I have met women who care about cunt, and black people who care about nigger. When engaging in conversation, trying not to offend as a matter of course is usually considered polite.

quote]"pay equity" = "affirmative action" in salaries

Dead wrong.[/QUOTE]

Exactly correct - based on feminist theories, government bureaucrats who wouldn't have a clue about running a business arbitrarily set pay, instead of letting the market set it.
[/quote]
The market which pays two people in the same company doing the same work different wages. See, this is why you're dead wrong. I know, having been "educated" by the ravings of drug addicts might leave you behind people who have gone to college and taken relevant classes, but that's no need to get snippy.


"exit strategy" = cut and run

Dead wrong here. Exit strategy is how we plan on leaving, and usually requires timetables, and under what circumstances, etc. Something that really should be known.

Wars aren't won on "timetables", idiot. Did you ever hear of anyone predicting when a war would be won? A war is won when it's won. Setting a "timetable" is simply a euphemism for withdrawal and defeat.
[/quote]
Last I checked, major combat operations were over. We're in an occupation stage, and we have been told that, as soon as Iraq is on it's feet, we'll leave. Defining what that is, before going in, or at least shortly after "major combat operations are finished" is normally considered a "good thing".

Wars are won by achieving objectives, not by the number of casualties inflicted or sustained. There has been no war in the last 150 years where the side who sustained the greatest casualties was forced to sue for peace or surrender. In every single war in the history of men, it has been control of strategic points, and the achievement of tactical and strategic objectives that has won wars.



"the patriarchy" = white males
"the farrrr ultra uber way-out hard right wing" = conservatives
More like..neocon lying assholes.

You are either a anti-white racist or a self-hating white uncle tom.[/QUOTE]
I'm neither anti-white, nor am I black, self-hating, or otherwise fitting your characterization. This proves, once again, that you are a lying neocon asshole.

[alphamale]

"women's clinic" = abortion mill

Abortion mill is an incredibly loaded term, and it's not representative of what a women's clinic is.

It's exactly what a "women's clinic" is - this formulation was invented by Planned Parenthood. The minor other services offered are readily available from physicians and other health service providers, and the "women's clinics" wouldn't be in business except for their cash cow - abortions. It's "funny" that even to it's proponents, the very idea of abortion is so repugnant that they can't even bring THEMSELVES to say the word, hence also "A woman's right to chose(abortion)", "terminating a pregnancy (aborting a fetus)", "reproductive (abortion) rights" - they invented a whole glossary of new words and phrases in order not to have to use the "A" word.

Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion.
Abortion clinics.
Abortion clinics.
Used in a sentence: "One of my best friends had an abortion. I took her to the abortion clinic." The preceding sentence is true, by the way.

Too bad your mom hadn't mercifully gone to one while she was expecting you!

Abortion is a loaded term, and it is most often latched onto by viscious anti-woman people such as yourself.

Abortion is a medical term, asshole. Half the aborted fetuses would have been woman except that they were killed, and you dare to call others anti-women. God, I can hear it coming now - you're going to puke out every cliche the feminazis have cranked out for the consumption of dupes like you.

Compassion is, despite your best efforts, merited in some circumstances.

A pro-abortionist dares to mention compassion! Why don't you assist at a D and X abortion, and then come back and tell me about compassion? The Chutzpah of the Year Award is nailed down.


"affirmative action" = government mandated racial discrimination

Proving you know absolutely nothing about it.

Anti-white discrimination, pure and simple, implemented a million times a day in schools, workplaces, government agencies, everywhere. Denying it is like saying there's not grass, trees, sky, people or automobiles - not worthy of serious reply to anyone who is in the double-think world of saying it doesn't exist.

"Proving" it with something other than what you heard listening to Rush Limbaugh this morning during one of his more lucid moments means nothing.

Another predictable reflex of brainwashed liberal pavlov dogs - they start croaking "Limbaugh" when they're getting their ass whipped. :D


"multiculturalism" = balkanization
"right to chose" = abortion

Further proof.
Look at the speeches, demonstration signs, or writings of any pro-abortionist who ever existed! :D

Having been there, and done that, I'm going to have to once again show that you're a lying sack of shit, or at least an ignorant pigfucker. Assuming, of course, you have a ready supply of tranquilizer darts.

Sergeant Shellshock, recognizing defeat, falls back on the time-honored paratrooper practice of raising the white flag! :surrend: :roflmao:


[
"n word" = nigger

Which is such a good word to have in our vocabulary.

It isn't a good word, but it is an example of verbal "affirmative action" - words like fag, honky, etc appear in the media, but people are reduced to the verbal games used for two year olds when it comes to refering to america's precious, sensitive, super-citizen blacks.

I have met no white person who cared if someone called him a honky.
I have never met a gay person who cared about fag.
I have met women who care about cunt, and black people who care about nigger. When engaging in conversation, trying not to offend as a matter of course is usually considered polite.

Lapse into attention deficit like that when you're jumping, and you'll end up in the powerlines! The issue isn't about using the word nigger, the point was the silly ass PC liberal concoction "N-word".


quote]"pay equity" = "affirmative action" in salaries

Dead wrong.

Exactly correct - based on feminist theories, government bureaucrats who wouldn't have a clue about running a business arbitrarily set pay, instead of letting the market set it.

The market which pays two people in the same company doing the same work different wages. See, this is why you're dead wrong. I know, having been "educated" by the ravings of drug addicts might leave you behind people who have gone to college and taken relevant classes, but that's no need to get snippy.

You sound like a girl. Are you a girl? You don't understand the issue at all. "Comparitive Wage" is about some government bureaucrat equivalencing different jobs, in terms of pay.



"exit strategy" = cut and run

Dead wrong here. Exit strategy is how we plan on leaving, and usually requires timetables, and under what circumstances, etc. Something that really should be known.

Wars aren't won on "timetables", idiot. Did you ever hear of anyone predicting when a war would be won? A war is won when it's won. Setting a "timetable" is simply a euphemism for withdrawal and defeat.

Last I checked, major combat operations were over. We're in an occupation stage, and we have been told that, as soon as Iraq is on it's feet, we'll leave. Defining what that is, before going in, or at least shortly after "major combat operations are finished" is normally considered a "good thing".

ADS again! This has nothing to do with setting a timetable to leave. Nobody can do that, unless they agree that we lost and we're leaving.

[godfry n. glad]

Well, I know who I think makes more sense. It sure ain't alphamale.

[Sock Puppet]

Ah, but according to him, there are legions of lurkers who find him ever so much more reasonable than any of the posters. :nutty: :fruit: :D

[erimir]

I have never met a gay person who cared about fag.
Clearly you haven't met many gay people.

[Jesus Christ]

I have never met a gay person who cared about fag.
Clearly you haven't met many gay people.
Been hit on by one or two in my time (at the College Democrats National Convention no less), marched with some against Fred Phelps, etc. None of them cared when it was used in the conversations we were having. It's the intonation.

[Jesus Christ]

Too bad your mom hadn't mercifully gone to one while she was expecting you!

I was planned. I'm sure that your mother drinks to forget that she "chose life".

Abortion is a medical term, asshole.

So is moron, idiot, mogoloid, et al. However, outside of their medical usage, they are loaded terms. There is a big difference. They don't call urology clinics "penis places", do they?

Half the aborted fetuses would have been woman except that they were killed, and you dare to call others anti-women.

Logic train departed three minutes before you got your boarding pass. If you try using a non-sequiter, at least use one that isn't more obvious than the sun, or, failing that, your idiocy.

God, I can hear it coming now - you're going to puke out every cliche the feminazis have cranked out for the consumption of dupes like you.

Why would I? It won't change the fact that you're a moron, and that anything that anyone says about anything will never sway you from your position.

A pro-abortionist dares to mention compassion! Why don't you assist at a D and X abortion, and then come back and tell me about compassion? The Chutzpah of the Year Award is nailed down.

This is, by far, the stupidest thing you have said in this thread. That's pretty hard. You should feel proud of yourself.

See, compassion can be exhibited in many ways--for instance, about 90% of babies who are known (through amniocentesis) to have Down's Syndrome are aborted. Who's the compassionate one there?

Another predictable reflex of brainwashed liberal pavlov dogs - they start croaking "Limbaugh" when they're getting their ass whipped. :D
You haven't provided a single fact to the whole argument, and you claim to be winning. I suppose this explains your posturing in the Poetry Thread you started.

[Sergeant Shellshock, recognizing defeat, falls back on the time-honored paratrooper practice of raising the white flag! :surrend: :roflmao:

Are you in tune with reality? Surrender is when you give up, not when you dig a foxhole and load the SAW. I do find it quite amusing that you charge into this, bare naked and screaming across a baren field, and along my lane of fire.

Lapse into attention deficit like that when you're jumping, and you'll end up in the powerlines! The issue isn't about using the word nigger, the point was the silly ass PC liberal concoction "N-word".

So, in other words, it's perfectly fine to go around saying "nigger" when some racist piece of shit said it, and you quote him.

[You sound like a girl. Are you a girl? You don't understand the issue at all. "Comparitive Wage" is about some government bureaucrat equivalencing different jobs, in terms of pay.
Um, not really. See, I had a class that went into this type of thing. "Different" job often means "same duties, different title". This is for a person called (brace yourself, big word) an "arbitrator" to determine, based upon relevant facts.

ADS again! This has nothing to do with setting a timetable to leave. Nobody can do that, unless they agree that we lost and we're leaving.
So when we win a war that is supposed to be about us liberating some people, and granting them self-determination, it is our duty, our moral necessity to stay? Usually, leaving is customary, unless there are agreements to let us stay there. I know these concepts are a trifle much for you, but, if you really try to make Mommy and Daddy proud, I'm quite certain that you can come close to understanding something other than the mindless drivel that comes out of, what I'm told, is your mouth. It's hard to tell, what with the brown pucker that surrounds it, the foul stench, and, of course, the sheer quantity of refuse that pours forth.

[erimir]

Been hit on by one or two in my time (at the College Democrats National Convention no less), marched with some against Fred Phelps, etc. None of them cared when it was used in the conversations we were having. It's the intonation.
Yes, but I'm gay and have many gay friends and go to gay student association meetings, etc. and I know that many gays are opposed to the use of fag/got in all situations. Just as there are black people who don't like the use of nigger/nigga, no matter who is using it.

Others are only ok with it if other gays or possibly friends use it in a friendly way. The fact that you can use it with (some) gays you are being friendly with doesn't mean that they don't care about it.

[Sarpedon]

American has a nice ring to it. All other countries in the Americas (except the Dominican Republic) have a proper name instead of a descriptive name. What would we be called if not americans? "Staters" "Unis" USers? (hahaha) I don't think that we are offending the Brazillians, the Cubans, the Mexicans or the Canadians by using that name. After all, they all have perfectly good other names to use for themselves.

[alphamale]

[QUOTE=alphamale]Too bad your mom hadn't mercifully gone to one while she was expecting you!

I was planned. I'm sure that your mother drinks to forget that she "chose life".
I have 3 degrees, live in a $700K house, and my mom is proud of me. Your's probably regrets the parachute rope that twisted around your neck, cutting off oxygen to your brain, such as it was.


Abortion is a medical term, asshole.

So is moron, idiot, mogoloid, et al.

No, those AREN'T medical terms - but they're good terms for you.

However, outside of their medical usage, they are loaded terms. There is a big difference. They don't call urology clinics "penis places", do they?

You fags always seem to work dicks into the threads!


Half the aborted fetuses would have been woman except that they were killed, and you dare to call others anti-women.

Logic train departed three minutes before you got your boarding pass. If you try using a non-sequiter, at least use one that isn't more obvious than the sun, or, failing that, your idiocy.

Can't think of a response, eh? :D


God, I can hear it coming now - you're going to puke out every cliche the feminazis have cranked out for the consumption of dupes like you.

Why would I? It won't change the fact that you're a moron, and that anything that anyone says about anything will never sway you from your position.

The extremely rare liberal who can use facts and logic is interesting to talk to, but of course, that would exclude you.


A pro-abortionist dares to mention compassion! Why don't you assist at a D and X abortion, and then come back and tell me about compassion? The Chutzpah of the Year Award is nailed down.

This is, by far, the stupidest thing you have said in this thread. That's pretty hard. You should feel proud of yourself.

Loss for a response again - yer brain is shutting down! :D

See, compassion can be exhibited in many ways--for instance, about 90% of babies who are known (through amniocentesis) to have Down's Syndrome are aborted. Who's the compassionate one there?

The parents - they're compassionate to themselves - don't want the hassle of raising such a child. Why don't we pass a law extending such compassion to children like that who HAVE been born - like Hitler did?


Another predictable reflex of brainwashed liberal pavlov dogs - they start croaking "Limbaugh" when they're getting their ass whipped. :D
You haven't provided a single fact to the whole argument, and you claim to be winning. I suppose this explains your posturing in the Poetry Thread you started.

Watch it! ADS is creeping into you rantologue!


[Sergeant Shellshock, recognizing defeat, falls back on the time-honored paratrooper practice of raising the white flag! :surrend: :roflmao:

Are you in tune with reality? Surrender is when you give up, not when you dig a foxhole and load the SAW. I do find it quite amusing that you charge into this, bare naked and screaming across a baren field, and along my lane of fire.

Bare naked? In your "line of fire"? God, whatta fag! :D


Lapse into attention deficit like that when you're jumping, and you'll end up in the powerlines! The issue isn't about using the word nigger, the point was the silly ass PC liberal concoction "N-word".

So, in other words, it's perfectly fine to go around saying "nigger" when some racist piece of shit said it, and you quote him.

When you have to go to the bathroom, do you say "Excuse me, I have to go take a S-word."? :roflmao:



[You sound like a girl. Are you a girl? You don't understand the issue at all. "Comparitive Wage" is about some government bureaucrat equivalencing different jobs, in terms of pay.
Um, not really. See, I had a class that went into this type of thing. "Different" job often means "same duties, different title". This is for a person called (brace yourself, big word) an "arbitrator" to determine, based upon relevant facts.

You had a PC class! OK, it's clear now - you're literally officially brainwashed!

I'm quite certain that you can come close to understanding something other than the mindless drivel that comes out of, what I'm told, is your mouth. It's hard to tell, what with the brown pucker that surrounds it, the foul stench, and, of course, the sheer quantity of refuse that pours forth.

Blah spew splutter!!! :roflmao:

[Megatron]

I have 3 degrees
From Joe-Bob's Drive-Thru University, most likely.

live in a $700K house
With your mom.

and my mom is proud of me.
Because you haven't knocked her up yet.

Your's
But you still need to master the concept of the apostrophe. Good going there, mister 3 degrees, I guess Joe Bob's didn't teach English, eh?

You fags always seem to work dicks into the threads!
Well, it sure the hell got your attention, didn't it?

The extremely rare liberal who can use facts and logic is interesting to talk to, but of course, that would exclude you.
Fuck... irony meter's pegging out again...

Bare naked? In your "line of fire"? God, whatta fag! :D
There's that fag bit again... sure you're not hiding something from us? Come on, get out of the closet, alphabitch.

When you have to go to the bathroom, do you say "Excuse me, I have to go take a S-word."?
Damn, more non-sequitur than a bag full o' fundies...

You had a PC class! OK, it's clear now - you're literally officially brainwashed!
That's it, this is the last time I let you get anywhere NEAR my irony meter...

Blah spew splutter!!!
What's wrong, got some jizz in your throat? Seriously... come on out of the closet, you'll be a lot happier.

:2birds:

[Dingfod]

That was almost as good as Queen of Sword's Nutwatch at IIDB.

[Carlos]

American has a nice ring to it. All other countries in the Americas (except the Dominican Republic) have a proper name instead of a descriptive name..
Dominicanos

What would we be called if not americans? "Staters" "Unis" USers? (hahaha) I don't think that we are offending the Brazillians, the Cubans, the Mexicans or the Canadians by using that name. After all, they all have perfectly good other names to use for themselves.

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

It is a kind of imperialist remark.
I work with an incredibly cool guy originally from Venezuela, and after reading this thread, had to ask him about the nomenclature of "American". He echoed the previous sentiments that people in South America consider themselves "Americans" and some bristle when people from the US "monopolize" (my term, not his) the term "American".
http://skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=619&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=centralamerica+northamerica+continents&start=40

Thanks,
Carlos

[alphamale]

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

That a country would have the same name as the continent it is on is not surprising, and just a historical anomaly. Latin americans need to get over their anti-United states paranoia.

[Carlos]

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

That a country would have the same name as the continent it is on is not surprising, and just a historical anomaly. Latin americans need to get over their anti-United states paranoia.

Try to see it in another way:
Why you USA people think America is just USA?

Thanks,
Carlos

[alphamale]

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

That a country would have the same name as the continent it is on is not surprising, and just a historical anomaly. Latin americans need to get over their anti-United states paranoia.

Try to see it in another way:
Why you USA people think America is just USA?

Thanks,
Carlos

I told you, the early colonists just referred to the continental name, and when the USA was created, there was no particular place name to call it other than america.

[Carlos]

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

That a country would have the same name as the continent it is on is not surprising, and just a historical anomaly. Latin americans need to get over their anti-United states paranoia.

Try to see it in another way:
Why you USA people think America is just USA?

Thanks,
Carlos

I told you, the early colonists just referred to the continental name, and when the USA was created, there was no particular place name to call it other than america.

You are still thinking like the colonists, that is the point.

Thanks,
Carlos

[inyourhonor]

The political correct machine is doing what? Americans are USAs..or something?

Screw that, I'm Amur-can.

[alphamale]

You are still thinking like the colonists, that is the point.

Thanks,
Carlos

??????

[Carlos]

You are still thinking like the colonists, that is the point.

Thanks,
Carlos

??????
At the XXI century.
Think about it.

Thanks,
Carlos

[alphamale]

Seriously Carlos, why don't all you hispanics get over you paranoia? We don't steal your bananas any more. :banana2: :banana: :banana2: :banana:

[Carlos]

Seriously Carlos, why don't all you hispanics get over you paranoia? We don't steal your bananas any more. :banana2: :banana: :banana2: :banana:
I don't think is a matter of paranoia because we have reasons to support the point of your colonialism in the XXi century .

I think is just how bad is your USA education in that matter.

Thanks,
Carlos.

Edited to fix your

[alphamale]

Seriously Carlos, why don't all you hispanics get over you paranoia? We don't steal your bananas any more. :banana2: :banana: :banana2: :banana:
I don't think is a matter of paranoia because we have reasons to support the point of your colonialism in the XXi century .

I think is just how bad is you're USA education in that matter.

Thanks,
Carlos.

Are you macho? Stand up like a man and forget this whining! Forget the past - Al vivo la hogaza y al muerto, la mortaja. Be a man! Square back your shoulders! There! Your destiny is in your hands! Bravo!

[Carlos]

Seriously Carlos, why don't all you hispanics get over you paranoia? We don't steal your bananas any more. :banana2: :banana: :banana2: :banana:
I don't think is a matter of paranoia because we have reasons to support the point of your colonialism in the XXi century .

I think is just how bad is you're USA education in that matter.

Thanks,
Carlos.

Are you macho? Stand up like a man and forget this whining! Forget the past - Al vivo la hogaza y al muerto, la mortaja. Be a man! Square back your shoulders! There! Your destiny is in your hands! Bravo!
We can forget if you don't repeat your mistake everyday.

Thanks,
Carlos

[godfry n. glad]

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

That a country would have the same name as the continent it is on is not surprising, and just a historical anomaly. Latin americans need to get over their anti-United states paranoia.

Try to see it in another way:
Why you USA people think America is just USA?

Thanks,
Carlos

I told you, the early colonists just referred to the continental name, and when the USA was created, there was no particular place name to call it other than america.

Actually, the early colonists probably referred to it by their colonial name....in America. Then there was Canada, Quebec and French North America, Spanish North America (Florida, Mexico and California), and English North America....the latter with several semi-autonomous colonies. With independence, those colonies then became states in a confederation, which was such an abyssmal means of governance that the US Constitution was framed, argued over and ratified, creating a new nation that almost named itself "Columbia".

Omegaboy's history is so fucking inadequate, that it's obvious none of his degrees had anything to do with American history. He probably slept through (or doodled through) all his history classes. I wouldn't be surprised if one of his "degrees" is for elementary school.

Oh, wait... They didn't have those in the "special education" classes now, did they?

[alphamale]

We can forget if you don't repeat your mistake everyday.

We don't! Now shake hands, and be friends! Here, let me pour you a Dead Rooster Ale. Salud!

[Carlos]

You offend only when you call yourself American ( while thinking AMERICA is only the USA) in a group of persons that also call themselves Americans but they are americans because they belong to the continent.

That a country would have the same name as the continent it is on is not surprising, and just a historical anomaly. Latin americans need to get over their anti-United states paranoia.

Try to see it in another way:
Why you USA people think America is just USA?

Thanks,
Carlos

I told you, the early colonists just referred to the continental name, and when the USA was created, there was no particular place name to call it other than america.

Actually, the early colonists probably referred to it by their colonial name....in America. Then there was Canada, French North America and English North America....the latter with several semi-autonomous colonies. Those colonies then became states in a confederation, which was such an abyssmal means of governance that the US Constitution was framed, argued over and ratified, creating a new nation that almost named itself "Columbia".

Your history is so fucking inadequate, alfalfasqueel, that it's obvious none of your degrees had anything to do with American history. You probably slept through 5th grade, 8th grade and Junior history classes.

Oh, wait... They didn't have those in the "special education" classes now, did they?

And this asshole thinks he knows about "American" history, when he is refering about USA history.

Thanks,
Carlos

[alphamale]

And this asshole thinks he knows about "American" history, when he is refering about USA history.

You insult me, sir? Do all Dominicans behave in such a manner?

[Carlos]

And this asshole thinks he knows about "American" history, when he is refering about USA history.

You insult me, sir? Do all Dominicans behave in such a manner?
Read again, I was quoting Godfry.
I am not dominicano

Thanks,
Carlos

[alphamale]

And this asshole thinks he knows about "American" history, when he is refering about USA history.

You insult me, sir? Do all Dominicans behave in such a manner?
Read again, I was quoting Godfry.
I am not dominicano

Thanks,
Carlos

My apologies for being confused - you are certainly correct that Godfrey is an asshole.

[Carlos]

And this asshole thinks he knows about "American" history, when he is refering about USA history.

You insult me, sir? Do all Dominicans behave in such a manner?
Read again, I was quoting Godfry.
I am not dominicano

Thanks,
Carlos

My apologies for being confused - you are certainly correct that Godfrey is an asshole.

No problem at all.

Thanks,
Carlos

[Jesus Christ]

Too bad your mom hadn't mercifully gone to one while she was expecting you!

I was planned. I'm sure that your mother drinks to forget that she "chose life".
I have 3 degrees, live in a $700K house, and my mom is proud of me. Your's probably regrets the parachute rope that twisted around your neck, cutting off oxygen to your brain, such as it was.

I have eight degrees, and am a multi-millionaire who does this for fun. Wait--this proves nothing, just like your assertions.


Abortion is a medical term, asshole.

So is moron, idiot, mogoloid, et al.

No, those AREN'T medical terms - but they're good terms for you.

Actually, they are. They refer to varying degrees of mental incompetence, and the degree of care necessary for those people to function. They're not widely used any more, though they are indeed legitimate medical terms. Proving, once more, that you are an idiot.

However, outside of their medical usage, they are loaded terms. There is a big difference. They don't call urology clinics "penis places", do they?

You fags always seem to work dicks into the threads!

You seem to drool over them, don't you? And when any picture is posted, you not how much like the dick you crave it looks like.


Half the aborted fetuses would have been woman except that they were killed, and you dare to call others anti-women.

Logic train departed three minutes before you got your boarding pass. If you try using a non-sequiter, at least use one that isn't more obvious than the sun, or, failing that, your idiocy.

Can't think of a response, eh? :D

A response? Are you retarded? There is nothing to respond to. Condoms are anti-women under what passes as logic for you, as half of all pregnancies that it prevented were women! Wait, you're an idiot, and have no concept of logic.


The extremely rare liberal who can use facts and logic

My irony meter exploded here. When have you used a single fact? Or even used any form of actual logic?

is interesting to talk to, but of course, that would exclude you.

If I tried to explain red to a blind man, I'd get much the same response.


A pro-abortionist dares to mention compassion! Why don't you assist at a D and X abortion, and then come back and tell me about compassion? The Chutzpah of the Year Award is nailed down.

This is, by far, the stupidest thing you have said in this thread. That's pretty hard. You should feel proud of yourself.

Loss for a response again - yer brain is shutting down! :D

Respond to what? Blatant false assertion that has no basis in reality?

See, compassion can be exhibited in many ways--for instance, about 90% of babies who are known (through amniocentesis) to have Down's Syndrome are aborted. Who's the compassionate one there?

The parents - they're compassionate to themselves - don't want the hassle of raising such a child.

Since you're so good at reading the minds of people you haven't even met, why don't you go to James Randi? Oh, wait, you're just a moron who blatantly asserts whatever he wants to paint people who disagree with him as whatever he wants.

Why don't we pass a law extending such compassion to children like that who HAVE been born - like Hitler did?

Godwin's law.


Another predictable reflex of brainwashed liberal pavlov dogs - they start croaking "Limbaugh" when they're getting their ass whipped. :D
You haven't provided a single fact to the whole argument, and you claim to be winning. I suppose this explains your posturing in the Poetry Thread you started.

Watch it! ADS is creeping into you rantologue!

Take five dollars.
Go to the clue store.
Purchase one.
Return here.
Realize that you're an idiot.


[Sergeant Shellshock, recognizing defeat, falls back on the time-honored paratrooper practice of raising the white flag! :surrend: :roflmao:

Are you in tune with reality? Surrender is when you give up, not when you dig a foxhole and load the SAW. I do find it quite amusing that you charge into this, bare naked and screaming across a baren field, and along my lane of fire.

Bare naked? In your "line of fire"? God, whatta fag! :D

I question the literacy of any "man" who fails to be able to quote material right in front of his face.
I question the sexuality of any "straight" who sees homoerotic images in everything everyone else says, but never in his own dildo fantasies.


Lapse into attention deficit like that when you're jumping, and you'll end up in the powerlines! The issue isn't about using the word nigger, the point was the silly ass PC liberal concoction "N-word".

So, in other words, it's perfectly fine to go around saying "nigger" when some racist piece of shit said it, and you quote him.

When you have to go to the bathroom, do you say "Excuse me, I have to go take a S-word."? :roflmao:

So saying nigger is like saying shit? God you're retarded.



[You sound like a girl. Are you a girl? You don't understand the issue at all. "Comparitive Wage" is about some government bureaucrat equivalencing different jobs, in terms of pay.
Um, not really. See, I had a class that went into this type of thing. "Different" job often means "same duties, different title". This is for a person called (brace yourself, big word) an "arbitrator" to determine, based upon relevant facts.

You had a PC class! OK, it's clear now - you're literally officially brainwashed!

No, I had a class in public service, in which how the law is applied was discussed. "PC" didn't enter into it.

I'm quite certain that you can come close to understanding something other than the mindless drivel that comes out of, what I'm told, is your mouth. It's hard to tell, what with the brown pucker that surrounds it, the foul stench, and, of course, the sheer quantity of refuse that pours forth.

Blah spew splutter!!! :roflmao:

I guess I was mistaken.

[erimir]

Anywho...

I'm pretty sure that at the time America was founded there were many people who suggested, in the interest of PRECISE language (not everything is about being PC, you know and this was way before PC was around), using a term other than "American" as the adjective.

I'm pretty sure I read something about one of the Founding Fathers recommending the use of "United Statian."

[Carlos]

Anywho...

I'm pretty sure that at the time America was founded ........"

America was already founded before Cristobal Colón arrived to this lands.

You are refering about USA foundation..

Try to use the correct words.

Thanks,
Carlos

[erimir]

If you wanna get that technical, it doesn't even make sense to talk about a continent being founded.

[Carlos]

If you wanna get that technical, it doesn't even make sense to talk about a continent being founded.
Why not?

I was also pointing your technical mistake :I'm pretty sure that at the time America was founded

Instead of writing:
:I'm pretty sure that at the time USA was founded

[erimir]

Well my point is that it wasn't ambiguous since a continent can't be founded. Do you think there's any reason to interpret that as referring to the continent?

I'm fine with supporting the distinction when it matters. But in my informal speech and writing, I'm going to say America and American. That's just how the word is used in the US - that's how I learned the meaning. I don't intend to monitor myself just so that you're not bothered when you know perfectly well what I mean and I don't intend to imply that only Americans (or USA'ers) are from the Americas. It's just pedantic and annoying.

And especially since, as has been mentioned, in many cases using US is just awkward. I don't intend to say "USA'ers" or "US-people" (maybe that works for you since your English isn't very good, but it sounds awkward to me) because they sound awkward.

[beyelzu]

check it out guys from dictionary.com

adj 1: of or relating to the United States of America or its people or language or culture; "American citizens"; "American English"; "the American dream" [syn: American] 2: of or relating to or characteristic of the continents and islands of the Americas; "the American hemisphere"; "American flora and fauna" [syn: American] n 1: a native or inhabitant of the United States [syn: American] 2: the English language as used in the United States [syn: American English, American language, American] 3: a native or inhabitant of a North American or Central American or South American country [syn: American]

so while it can mean both the first definition, the most widely used, is indeed about the good ol usa.

[Carlos]

check it out guys from dictionary.com

adj 1: of or relating to the United States of America or its people or language or culture; "American citizens"; "American English"; "the American dream" [syn: American] 2: of or relating to or characteristic of the continents and islands of the Americas; "the American hemisphere"; "American flora and fauna" [syn: American] n 1: a native or inhabitant of the United States [syn: American] 2: the English language as used in the United States [syn: American English, American language, American] 3: a native or inhabitant of a North American or Central American or South American country [syn: American]

so while it can mean both the first definition, the most widely used, is indeed about the good ol usa.

3: a native or inhabitant of a North American or Central American or South American country [syn: American]

Game , set , match.

Thanks,
Carlos

[Jesus Christ]

3: a native or inhabitant of a North American or Central American or South American country [syn: American]

Game , set , match.

Thanks,
Carlos
Yeah--and you lost.

See, the order in those is by preference of use. That 3? It means it's the third most common way of using it. Considering how rare 2 is, that says something.

[Carlos]

A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it.

Double game , set , match

Thanks,
Carlos

[Crumb]

Being able to admit when you are wrong, Carlos will help you gain a bit of credibility. You need all the credibility you can get around here. :sadyup: I advise you give this one up.

[Carlos]

Being able to admit when you are wrong, Carlos will help you gain a bit of credibility. You need all the credibility you can get around here. :sadyup: I advise you give this one up.

Which one?

Be specific .

Thanks,
Carlos

[Jesus Christ]

A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it.

Double game , set , match

Thanks,
Carlos
Against you.

It is the most common way, and the definitionally preferred meaning. The meaning of words is literally dependent upon how they are used, and how frequent that use is.

So, once again, you're a moron.

[Carlos]

Another hit and run post, Crumb?

LOL

Thanks,
Carlos

[Crumb]

I have better things to do than explain things to you Carlos. If you don't like folks using the word "American" to refer to US citizens you are just going to have to get used to it. :shrug: It is how the word is used. Sucks to be you.

[Carlos]

And you didn't notice the confussion you can bring to other people who are also AMERICANS but not from USA ?

Don't you understand how is the correct use to do it?

Don't you understand that this thing is just a debate to help to educate people about the correct use of it?

Don't you understand that USA education about the AMERICA topic is based on tradition and not in facts?

Don't you understand that even your USA education about AMERICA ( the TWO separate continenets) is not accurate?

If you are more worried to keep talking shit about me , then keep making the same mistakes and move on to your icon stupid threads.

Thanks,
Carlos

[erimir]

A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it.Curious how a Spanish speaking person would tell a group of English speakers about the correct way to speak their own language.

We don't tell you how to speak Spanish, do we?
And you didn't notice the confussion you can bring to other people who are also AMERICANS but not from USA ?In most cases it's not ambiguous. The confusion is in assuming that because American and Americano are cognates that they mean exactly the same thing. You can't assume that because it means one thing in Spanish that it will mean the exact same thing in English.

Do you also go complain to the Germans, Swedes and Japanese and other speakers of languages that use the term more similarly to the way we use it? Or do you not do so because you obviously can't claim that they're being arrogant American imperialists for doing so?
Don't you understand that this thing is just a debate to help to educate people about the correct use of it?I understand that part - but you're not going to win any support by making a post every time someone says American. You had some sympathy when you were complaining about alpha - but annoying people is just going to make them use it the "wrong" way just to spite you.
Don't you understand that USA education about the AMERICA topic is based on tradition and not in facts?I don't see how this is related to what words we use to discuss the US. You can tell the truth and still use America to refer to the US.
Don't you understand that even your USA education about AMERICA ( the TWO separate continenets) is not accurate?Same thing. Also, we generally say the Americas, since you know, there are two of 'em. That also avoids any ambiguity.

[Carlos]

A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it..
Curious how a Spanish speaking person would tell a group of English speakers about the correct way to speak their own language.

We don't tell you how to speak Spanish, do we?

What part you didn't understand of : "A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it" ?
Your statement doesn't have relevance to my quote.

And you didn't notice the confusion you can bring to other people who are also AMERICANS but not from USA ?
In most cases it's not ambiguous. The confusion is in assuming that because American and Americano are cognates that they mean exactly the same thing. You can't assume that because it means one thing in Spanish that it will mean the exact same thing in English.

Do you also go complain to the Germans, Swedes and Japanese and other speakers of languages that use the term more similarly to the way we use it? Or do you not do so because you obviously can't claim that they're being arrogant American imperialists for doing so?
Again, it makes not difference at all who's nationality is the one who is using the word just because is a common use and not the correct use of it.
For example , the author of this thread ( from UK ), she created another topic with this title : "question for Americans"
But the OP was only related to USA people and about national USA celebration.
And since I consider myself American ( but not from USA ) caused on me some confusion.
I would react the same way if a Mexican was the author..

And that is the reason of this particular thread.


Don't you understand that this thing is just a debate to help to educate people about the correct use of it?
I understand that part - but you're not going to win any support by making a post every time someone says American. You had some sympathy when you were complaining about alpha - but annoying people is just going to make them use it the "wrong" way just to spite you.
I don't know what personal trauma you all have with Alphamale , but I am not here to get your sympathy or suck ups.
Who told you that ? I am here to debate.
If I find something that I agree with you I will say it ,and if I don't I will say it also.
If your choice is to keep making the same mistake it is up to you.
It is not my fault, it is yours.


Don't you understand that USA education about the AMERICA topic is based on tradition and not in facts?
I don't see how this is related to what words we use to discuss the US. You can tell the truth and still use America to refer to the US..
LOL, I want to hear the USA President telling at the ONU : "I am the president of America" to see what reaction he gets.
Don't you understand that even your USA education about AMERICA ( the TWO separate continents) is not accurate?

Same thing. Also, we generally say the Americas, since you know, there are two of 'em. That also avoids any ambiguity.

Who told you that are TWO of them?
Your USA geography/social study’s teacher?
LOL
I bet you believed what he /she said and you keep repeating the same nonsense.
You are lost in your lack of education of this particular topic.

So, spite me with your ignorance again or go on and discuss with Alphamale.
LOL

And excuse me for my broken English , but you got the point.

Thanks,
Carlos

[erimir]

What part you didn't understand of : "A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it" ?
Your statement doesn't have relevance to my quote.Yes, and I was pointing out how silly it is for you, a non-native speaker, to claim to know the "correct" way while all the native speakers insist that you are wrong.

Again, it makes not difference at all who's nationality is the one who is using the word just because is a common use and not the correct use of it.I wasn't talking about the word "American" I was talking about other languages, that IN THEIR LANGUAGE, use a similar word to refer to things from the US. For example, in Swedish, you can use amerikansk to refer to things from the US. Is this due to the flawed American school system, or American arrogance?

I'm not talking about Swedes speaking English - I'm talking about Swedes speaking Swedish. Or Japanese people speaking Japanese, etc. We're not the only language that uses America to refer to the USA.
And since I consider myself American ( but not from USA ) caused on me some confusion.Yes, but you don't speak English as a native language. I assure you that you were the only one who was confused. Those of us who know how the word IS used in English are not confused.
I would react the same way if a Mexican was the author..Except a Mexican would be writing in Spanish, and in Spanish, "americano" DOES usually refer to the American continents. In English, it does not. See - they're two different languages, they don't use the word exactly the same.
I don't see how this is related to what words we use to discuss the US. You can tell the truth and still use America to refer to the US..
LOL, I want to hear the USA President telling at the ONU : "I am the president of America" to see what reaction he gets.I don't follow. What is the ONU and why does this have any relevance?

English speakers talking to each other is different from English speakers talking to people who don't speak English as a first language - we would be more careful to avoid the ambiguity in a formal situation.
Don't you understand that even your USA education about AMERICA ( the TWO separate continents) is not accurate?

Same thing. Also, we generally say the Americas, since you know, there are two of 'em. That also avoids any ambiguity.

Who told you that are TWO of them?Ummmm... you said in your post, right there, "the TWO separate continents". We generally don't refer to North and South America together as "America". We refer to North and South America as "the Americas".
Your USA geography/social study’s teacher?Laugh it up - how's the Colombian education system? I'm sure plenty of people travel abroad to get a good Colombian education, right? Envy of the world. Not like the American university system which is widely denigrated :rolleyes:
I bet you believed what he /she said and you keep repeating the same nonsense.
You are lost in your lack of education of this particular topic.I can't help it if you're not smart enough to realize that how a particular word is used doesn't mean that I don't know history. It's a separate issue, you tard.

I could use America to mean the space between my ass-cheeks, and if I don't confuse the two meanings it won't make a difference in my ability to discuss history.

[Carlos]

What part you didn't understand of : "A common way of using it , doesn't mean it is the CORRECT way to use it" ?
Your statement doesn't have relevance to my quote.Yes, and I was pointing out how silly it is for you, a non-native speaker, to claim to know the "correct" way while all the native speakers insist that you are wrong..
Silly is how you don't focus on the meaning of the quote .

Again, it makes not difference at all who's nationality is the one who is using the word just because is a common use and not the correct use of it.I wasn't talking about the word "American" I was talking about other languages, that IN THEIR LANGUAGE, use a similar word to refer to things from the US. For example, in Swedish, you can use amerikansk to refer to things from the US. Is this due to the flawed American school system, or American arrogance?

I'm not talking about Swedes speaking English - I'm talking about Swedes speaking Swedish. Or Japanese people speaking Japanese, etc. We're not the only language that uses America to refer to the USA.
And just because they repeat the same mistake then it must be the correct way to use it ?

And since I consider myself American ( but not from USA ) caused on me some confusion.Yes, but you don't speak English as a native language. I assure you that you were the only one who was confused. Those of us who know how the word IS used in English are not confused..

I see, your point is that FF board only should have people that do the same mistake you do.


I would react the same way if a Mexican was the author..Except a Mexican would be writing in Spanish, and in Spanish, "americano" DOES usually refer to the American continents. In English, it does not. See - they're two different languages, they don't use the word exactly the same..
Don't you understand that I am writing in English and I am not form Mexico neither from USA.

Don't you understand that American means Americano?
Don't you understand that Americano means American?


LOL, I want to hear the USA President telling at the ONU : "I am the president of America" to see what reaction he gets.I don't follow. What is the ONU and why does this have any relevance?

English speakers talking to each other is different from English speakers talking to people who don't speak English as a first language - we would be more careful to avoid the ambiguity in a formal situation..

Oh , you are beginning to learn.

So, if your USA President is talking to delegation of Sweden and Japan , he can use : "I am the President of America" ?, because according to your previous quote that is the common use on those countries. Yes , sure.

You are lost Erimir.

Who told you that are TWO of them?Ummmm... you said in your post, right there, "the TWO separate continents". We generally don't refer to North and South America together as "America". We refer to North and South America as "the Americas"..

Yes ; I was reminding you the nonsense you've been educate at USA.
Do you really believe there are TWO separate continents? What is your evidence about it? A google search that repeats your nonsense?


Your USA geography/social study’s teacher?Laugh it up - how's the Colombian education system? I'm sure plenty of people travel abroad to get a good Colombian education, right? Envy of the world. Not like the American university system which is widely denigrated :rolleyes:.

Colombian? What trauma you have with Colombia? Be sure that in this topic their education is far better. And we are discussing this particular topic.


I bet you believed what he /she said and you keep repeating the same nonsense.
You are lost in your lack of education of this particular topic.I can't help it if you're not smart enough to realize that how a particular word is used doesn't mean that I don't know history. It's a separate issue, you tard.

I could use America to mean the space between my ass-cheeks, and if I don't confuse the two meanings it won't make a difference in my ability to discuss history.
Oh baby , you are piss off ! You called me tard!

Now, you are mixing your queer ass with Geography and History on this topic.

Only your queer ass is separated on two continents and with a BIG hole that represents the Panama Channel.
And post a picture and we will see if I am wrong.


LOL

Thanks,
Carlos

[erimir]

Silly is how you don't focus on the meaning of the quote.Your quote doesn't need any addressing. How exactly are you determining what is the "correct" way to use words derived from the root "America"?

Because it seems to me that you're taking the Spanish way of using the word and claiming that it is the only correct way and insisting that all other languages use it that way (not only English, because as I said, German, Japanese, Swedish, etc. use the equivalent words in the same way as we do). It seems like that's a bit of arrogance on YOUR part, doesn't it?
And just because they repeat the same mistake then it must be the correct way to use it ?It's not a mistake. It's language - I'm sorry if you don't know jackshit about linguistics, but *I* do, because it's my major. The meaning of words is determined by the users of those words - not bitchy little Ecuadorians who don't even speak all of the languages in question. So yes, in fact the fact that they use it that way DOES mean that it is the right meaning. If you go around acting confused at the usage that's because YOU don't know the language well enough - not because they're making a mistake. You don't know English well enough if it's causing you confusion. As I said - just because the words are derived from the same root doesn't mean that they mean the same thing.

You can't assume that embarazada and embarassed mean the same thing - and you can't assume that American and americano mean the same thing either. That's your problem - not mine.
I see, your point is that FF board only should have people that do the same mistake you do.No my point is that you obviously don't know English well enough to realize that American doesn't mean the exact same thing as americano. I am not obliged to accommodate you on a board that is in English. Otherwise, I might as well escribir en español. Pero, no necesito hacer eso. Y si yo esté escribiendo en español, tendrías razón de corrigirme. Pero no estoy escribiendo en español. I'm writing in English - and you knew full well this was an English board. I'm willing to clarify when you're confused - but I don't feel any need to listen to you when you tell me how to speak my own language.
Don't you understand that I am writing in English and I am not form Mexico neither from USA.Yes. You used a Mexican in your example. I'm not an idiot - I know where Ecuador is, I'm sorry if you stupidly think that all Americans are ignorant. I can recognize that many Americans are ignorant, but your attitude towards Americans is just as ignorant.
Don't you understand that American means Americano?
Don't you understand that Americano means American?No. The problem is that you don't understand that American only means americano sometimes. It usually DOESN'T mean americano. It usually means estadounidense. If they didn't teach you that in your English class, that's your school's failure.
So, if your USA President is talking to delegation of Sweden and Japan , he can use : "I am the President of America" ?,No - he wouldn't say that because that's NOT his formal title. You're being just as bad as alphamale here. The US Army is referred to as the US Army because that's its official title. The president's official title is the President of the United States. We - and people from Sweden and Japan, might refer to American presidents tho. We would never say President of America simply because that's not his title.
because according to your previous quote that is the common use on those countries. Yes , sure.It is common use, but as I just explained the title of the president is a separate issue. I know Swedes use it the same way because I've heard them refer TO ME as American (amerikansk in Swedish).
Yes ; I was reminding you the nonsense you've been educate at USA.
Do you really believe there are TWO separate continents?Yes, I realize that they're connected. We also call Europe, Asia and Africa separate continents even tho they're connected. If you want to be very technical there are only four continents - America, Antarctica, Australia and Eurafricasia (Europe/Africa/Asia). But what ever gave you the impression that the fact that we by convention refer to them as separate continents means that we don't realize they're connected? Do you really believe that we don't know that? Cuz you're the one who's looking like an idiot here.
What is your evidence about it? A google search that repeats your nonsense?Evidence about what? I don't need to prove that we consider them separate continents. And I will readily agree that they are connected.
Colombian? What trauma you have with Colombia?I dunno. What trauma do you have with the US?

You feel free to insult our education system and pretend like your education system is better in history. I admit that American history classes paint a rosier picture than the truth. And I'm sure yours paints a rosier picture of Ecuador than the reality. But it's not as if we're all ignorant here considering we have the best university system in the world. And *I'm* not ignorant. You continue to stupidly believe that the way I use the word American has any bearing on what I think about US history.

You haven't even brought up any specific issues that I supposedly believe due to my "erroneous" use of the word that apparently clouds my mind and makes me believe that the US never does any wrong.
Be sure that in this topic their education is far better.You're again confusing the issue. The fact that you use the word americano differently from the way we use the word American doesn't mean you have a better education. You're assuming that the Spanish way of using the word is the only right way of using it and acting like that means you're better educated.

I might as well claim that the way we use the word Spanish is the only correct way and that people in Spain shouldn't say castellano to refer to their language, and should instead use español.

Or tell the Swedes not to use "Norden" (which literally means "the North" in Swedish) to refer to the Nordic countries because in Swedish, the literal meaning could apply to Russia, Estonia, Canada, etc. as well. But it's THEIR language, and in their language, when you say "Norden" it refers to the Nordic countries (Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland) and not all the northern countries. They're not confused. I might be confused at first since "nord" is cognate with "north" and we don't use "north" the same way that they use "nord". But if I speak Swedish well, I will know the difference and not confuse the English usage of "north" with the Swedish usage of "nord".
Oh baby , you are piss off ! You called me tard!And I see that you ignored the part where I addressed that the way that we use the word "American" has no bearing on our geography and history education. We can be educated just as well as anyone else using the word the way we do.

And yes, it does make you a tard if you can't understand that. We can disambiguate the meanings quite easily when we need to - we never suffer any confusion due to the way we use the word. The reason YOU suffer confusion is because you speak Spanish and assume that English uses it the same way - or at least that it SHOULD use it the same way.

[Carlos]

Silly is how you don't focus on the meaning of the quote.Your quote doesn't need any addressing. How exactly are you determining what is the "correct" way to use words derived from the root "America"?

Because it seems to me that you're taking the Spanish way of using the word and claiming that it is the only correct way and insisting that all other languages use it that way (not only English, because as I said, German, Japanese, Swedish, etc. use the equivalent words in the same way as we do). It seems like that's a bit of arrogance on YOUR part, doesn't it?
And just because they repeat the same mistake then it must be the correct way to use it ?It's not a mistake. It's language - I'm sorry if you don't know jackshit about linguistics, but *I* do, because it's my major. The meaning of words is determined by the users of those words - not bitchy little Ecuadorians who don't even speak all of the languages in question. So yes, in fact the fact that they use it that way DOES mean that it is the right meaning. If you go around acting confused at the usage that's because YOU don't know the language well enough - not because they're making a mistake. You don't know English well enough if it's causing you confusion. As I said - just because the words are derived from the same root doesn't mean that they mean the same thing.

You can't assume that embarazada and embarassed mean the same thing - and you can't assume that American and americano mean the same thing either. That's your problem - not mine.
I see, your point is that FF board only should have people that do the same mistake you do.No my point is that you obviously don't know English well enough to realize that American doesn't mean the exact same thing as americano. I am not obliged to accommodate you on a board that is in English. Otherwise, I might as well escribir en español. Pero, no necesito hacer eso. Y si yo esté escribiendo en español, tendrías razón de corrigirme. Pero no estoy escribiendo en español. I'm writing in English - and you knew full well this was an English board. I'm willing to clarify when you're confused - but I don't feel any need to listen to you when you tell me how to speak my own language.
Don't you understand that I am writing in English and I am not form Mexico neither from USA.Yes. You used a Mexican in your example. I'm not an idiot - I know where Ecuador is, I'm sorry if you stupidly think that all Americans are ignorant. I can recognize that many Americans are ignorant, but your attitude towards Americans is just as ignorant.
Don't you understand that American means Americano?
Don't you understand that Americano means American?No. The problem is that you don't understand that American only means americano sometimes. It usually DOESN'T mean americano. It usually means estadounidense. If they didn't teach you that in your English class, that's your school's failure.
So, if your USA President is talking to delegation of Sweden and Japan , he can use : "I am the President of America" ?,No - he wouldn't say that because that's NOT his formal title. You're being just as bad as alphamale here. The US Army is referred to as the US Army because that's its official title. The president's official title is the President of the United States. We - and people from Sweden and Japan, might refer to American presidents tho. We would never say President of America simply because that's not his title.
because according to your previous quote that is the common use on those countries. Yes , sure.It is common use, but as I just explained the title of the president is a separate issue. I know Swedes use it the same way because I've heard them refer TO ME as American (amerikansk in Swedish).
Yes ; I was reminding you the nonsense you've been educate at USA.
Do you really believe there are TWO separate continents?Yes, I realize that they're connected. We also call Europe, Asia and Africa separate continents even tho they're connected. If you want to be very technical there are only four continents - America, Antarctica, Australia and Eurafricasia (Europe/Africa/Asia). But what ever gave you the impression that the fact that we by convention refer to them as separate continents means that we don't realize they're connected? Do you really believe that we don't know that? Cuz you're the one who's looking like an idiot here.
What is your evidence about it? A google search that repeats your nonsense?Evidence about what? I don't need to prove that we consider them separate continents. And I will readily agree that they are connected.
Colombian? What trauma you have with Colombia?I dunno. What trauma do you have with the US?

You feel free to insult our education system and pretend like your education system is better in history. I admit that American history classes paint a rosier picture than the truth. And I'm sure yours paints a rosier picture of Ecuador than the reality. But it's not as if we're all ignorant here considering we have the best university system in the world. And *I'm* not ignorant. You continue to stupidly believe that the way I use the word American has any bearing on what I think about US history.

You haven't even brought up any specific issues that I supposedly believe due to my "erroneous" use of the word that apparently clouds my mind and makes me believe that the US never does any wrong.
Be sure that in this topic their education is far better.You're again confusing the issue. The fact that you use the word americano differently from the way we use the word American doesn't mean you have a better education. You're assuming that the Spanish way of using the word is the only right way of using it and acting like that means you're better educated.

I might as well claim that the way we use the word Spanish is the only correct way and that people in Spain shouldn't say castellano to refer to their language, and should instead use español.

Or tell the Swedes not to use "Norden" (which literally means "the North" in Swedish) to refer to the Nordic countries because in Swedish, the literal meaning could apply to Russia, Estonia, Canada, etc. as well. But it's THEIR language, and in their language, when you say "Norden" it refers to the Nordic countries (Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland) and not all the northern countries. They're not confused. I might be confused at first since "nord" is cognate with "north" and we don't use "north" the same way that they use "nord". But if I speak Swedish well, I will know the difference and not confuse the English usage of "north" with the Swedish usage of "nord".
Oh baby , you are piss off ! You called me tard!And I see that you ignored the part where I addressed that the way that we use the word "American" has no bearing on our geography and history education. We can be educated just as well as anyone else using the word the way we do.

And yes, it does make you a tard if you can't understand that. We can disambiguate the meanings quite easily when we need to - we never suffer any confusion due to the way we use the word. The reason YOU suffer confusion is because you speak Spanish and assume that English uses it the same way - or at least that it SHOULD use it the same way.

I understand you. You are piss off then you can not use rational thinking.

Try this :
Let's imagine a nation in Europe: The United States of Europe.

Let's imagine those people call themselves " Europeans" as the way to name the people who are from their specific country.

What do you think the rest of Europeans would think of the education and the use of the word of this "Europeans" people?

Do you think it would bring confussion if they find a topic , " Only for