Puerto Rican Independence

[alphamale]

It's time for the U.S. to get out of Puerto Rico. This country has it's own culture and language - it isn't really part of the U.S. It's a drain on the U.S. financially. I wouldn't have advocated that during the cold war, when Cuba was serving as the soviet union's proxy in stirring up trouble for the U.S. in the western hemisphere - Castro would have swallowed an independent PR in one gulp in those days. But now is now - time for the U.S. to hall down the stars and stripes, and sail off just as the british did with hong kong.

[Jesus Christ]

It's time for the U.S. to get out of Puerto Rico. This country has it's own culture and language - it isn't really part of the U.S. It's a drain on the U.S. financially. I wouldn't have advocated that during the cold war, when Cuba was serving as the soviet union's proxy in stirring up trouble for the U.S. in the western hemisphere - Castro would have swallowed an independent PR in one gulp in those days. But now is now - time for the U.S. to hall down the stars and stripes, and sail off just as the british did with hong kong.
First of all: it's haul, not hall. Secondly, the Chinese did not let the British extend their lease on Hong Kong. Thirdly, Puerto Rico provides us with some high quality soldiers in our military (I've worked with quite a few). Fourthly, the idea of Castro swallowing up, well, anything was as laughable then as it is now. Fifthly, you're ugly. It's not really a counter-argument, but I felt the need to remind you.

[alphamale]

First of all: it's haul, not hall.

Garsh, thanks Mr. Anal Rententive spelling police!

Secondly, the Chinese did not let the British extend their lease on Hong Kong.

The lease only covered the New Territories Sergeant Shellshock, not Hong Kong.

Thirdly, Puerto Rico provides us with some high quality soldiers in our military (I've worked with quite a few).

So we should keep PR for a soldier farm? What an assinine reason.

Fourthly, the idea of Castro swallowing up, well, anything was as laughable then as it is now.

I've seen your grasp of history above, Shellshock. Castro's attempts to spread marxist revolution throughout latin america are extremely well knwn.

Fifthly, you're ugly. It's not really a counter-argument, but I felt the need to remind you.

And paratroops have been the weak link in america's dfense for over 60 years. :D

[Jesus Christ]

First of all: it's haul, not hall.

Garsh, thanks Mr. Anal Rententive spelling police!

Just pointing out you're an idiot.

Secondly, the Chinese did not let the British extend their lease on Hong Kong.

The lease only covered the New Territories Sergeant Shellshock, not Hong Kong.

The majority of Hong Kong was in the New Territories, demi-brain. There wouldn't have been anything left of it worth keeping.

Thirdly, Puerto Rico provides us with some high quality soldiers in our military (I've worked with quite a few).

So we should keep PR for a soldier farm? What an assinine reason.

Given your other posts, I'd be quite sure you'd favor this. We get something in return for our investment in Puerto Rico.

Fourthly, the idea of Castro swallowing up, well, anything was as laughable then as it is now.

I've seen your grasp of history above, Shellshock. Castro's attempts to spread marxist revolution throughout latin america are extremely well knwn.

And we'd have let him start that in a former territory? What do you smoke?

Fifthly, you're ugly. It's not really a counter-argument, but I felt the need to remind you.

And paratroops have been the weak link in america's dfense for over 60 years. :D
Unfortunately, the rest of the world disagrees with you there, while agreeing with me. This would prove me right, and you stupid, ugly, and devoid of value.

[alphamale]

From Sergeant Shellshock's Golden Book of History for Kiddies (Wikipedia):

"In the 1980s, with the lease on the New Territories running out, the British government of Margaret Thatcher decided to negotiate the question of the sovereignty of Hong Kong. Although the British would have been legally required to transfer only the New Territories to the PRC, Whitehall decided that maintaining a rump colony would not be worthwhile - the majority of Hong Kong's land was in the New Territories, and failure to return the entire colony would doubtless have generated political friction between the UK and PRC."

[beyelzu]

alpha, why did you quote a passage that completely proved what jc said

do you really have a reading comprehension problem?

[D. Scarlatti]

He just wanted to say "rump colony."

[beyelzu]

:lol:

[Jesus Christ]

alpha, why did you quote a passage that completely proved what jc said

do you really have a reading comprehension problem?

Yes, yes he does. And yes, he is that dumb.

[Trojan]

It's time for the U.S. to get out of Puerto Rico. This country has it's own culture and language - it isn't really part of the U.S. It's a drain on the U.S. financially. I wouldn't have advocated that during the cold war, when Cuba was serving as the soviet union's proxy in stirring up trouble for the U.S. in the western hemisphere - Castro would have swallowed an independent PR in one gulp in those days. But now is now - time for the U.S. to hall down the stars and stripes, and sail off just as the british did with hong kong.
I could not agree more. It is far past the time the US left Puerto Rico and end it's imperialist colonial occupation of this island nation and allow them to chart their own future. Our uses of PR as a bombing target, a whorehouse, a place to scoop up impoverished young recruits to be thrown into the meat grinders of all our wars, a source of cheap labor and a place to devour their natural resources and all the while denying them the right to vote in presidential elections (as if that really matters) must come to an end. Puerto Rico's original inhabitants were exterminated, replaced by slaves from Africa and other Caribbean islands. Our continued occupation of this country has run it's course. Time to get out.

[erimir]

Do Puerto Ricans want to leave the US?

Does the US want Puerto Rico to leave?

[alphamale]

Do Puerto Ricans want to leave the US?

Does the US want Puerto Rico to leave?

On September 17, 1988 the U.S. Senate unanimously adopted a resolution which supported the right of the people of Puerto Rico to self-determination. On December 13, 1998 a referendum was held in Puerto Rico and the option "None of the above" won with over one-half the vote.

"Territorial" Commonwealth earned 993 votes (0.1%);
Free Association, 4,536 (0.3%);
Statehood, 728,157 (46.5%);
Independence, 39,838 (2.5%);
None of the above, 787,900 (50.3%);

and blank and void ballots, 4,846 (0.3%). "None of the above" won a majority of 59,743 votes over statehood. 1,566,270 of the 2,197,824 registered voters cast ballots, for a turnout rate of 71.3%.

So you see why we have to dump them overboard - they want 'none of the above'.

[erimir]

None of the above would be staying in the same situation, then?

It certainly would seem that they don't want full indepedence, and a sizeable portion want statehood.

[alphamale]

None of the above would be staying in the same situation, then?

It certainly would seem that they don't want full indepedence, and a sizeable portion want statehood.

I don't care what they want - they're a drain on the U.S. financially, and would add to the cultural balkanization of the U.S., so beloved of self-hating, country-hating liberals. Time to cut 'em loose.

[erimir]

How would they add to the "cultural balkanization" of the US?

If they became a state they would, just like today, be Spanish speaking, and their culture, just like today, would have little effect on the mainland outside of Nueva York.

And I also asked if most Americans would want to get rid of them - not just if Neo-Con loving assholes want to get rid of them. You know, cuz this is a democracy and all.

Also, I didn't know you cared about country music!