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alphamale
12-08-2005, 05:49 AM
There are a few here who have questioned my posting behavior. Here is an example of how my threads go - I open with a serious subject - in this case taxes - and only get nonsense in response. Read this up to and including post #8. (After that, I'll start stomping the midgets.) So critics, stop reversing it and saying it's me that creates these threads - it's just the opposite.

http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5677

viscousmemories
12-08-2005, 06:08 AM
Yeah, I've noticed that happens to you a lot now. I'd guess that's because almost anyone here who has ever attempted to engage you in any kind of rational discussion or debate is so thoroughly underwhelmed by the inevitable guffawing and insults that result when whatever dumb rightwing sputum you've regurgitated has been unequivocally debunked that they don't really bother trying anymore.

But as surely as you've proven that there's nothing so stupid you won't say it, you sure know how to propagandize.

alphamale
12-08-2005, 06:11 AM
[QUOTE=viscousmemories]Yeah, I've noticed that happens to you a lot now. [QUOTE]

Good! You get it! So no more lectures from the admins!

seebs
12-08-2005, 06:17 AM
I think you're in the category of "live by the gratuitous off-topic insult, die by the gratuitous off-topic insult".

If you want it to change, you will have to stop doing it yourself. As long as you keep doing it, people will see it as your own damn fault.

alphamale
12-08-2005, 06:21 AM
If you want it to change, you will have to stop doing it yourself.

I don't care if it changes - if people want discussion they'll get it, if they want pissing contests they'll get that. Most people here prefer pissing contests. :D

seebs
12-08-2005, 06:28 AM
If you want it to change, you will have to stop doing it yourself.

I don't care if it changes - if people want discussion they'll get it, if they want pissing contests they'll get that. Most people here prefer pissing contests. :D

No. I've seen you start the pissing contest more than once, and I've seen you do it in threads that were otherwise engaging discussion.

You're the one deciding to make a fight out of it, time and time again.

In the end, if you have arguments, you can present them, and most readers will ignore the unattached flames. If you start flaming back, though, you can't shuffle the blame off to someone else.

Isn't that supposed to be a big thing for conservatives? Accountability? None of this crap about blaming society. Your posts, your decision. You decided to flame. That's okay; it's not against the rules, or anything. But it's your decision, and no one else's decision controls you. You are a flamer, and if that's what you want to be, fine, but stop being a whiner about it. I don't recall seeing Adora bitching that people dogpile her when she picks fights. Even if she did, and I missed it, who the fuck cares? You're big on how adult and mature and responsible you are. Start acting like it.

michael1111
12-08-2005, 06:33 AM
why do people insist on playing conservative and liberal roles in a world that uses such nonsense as a kind of good cop/bad cop, to keep you occupied and arguing so any real change cant be made...just the kind that pays a few people well...

i read your thread...i agree with some of what you say about not paying for others. your problem is youre a dick. you feel you must make your personality fit into something made for somebody else. youre somebody elses idea of what you should be.

or maybe youre just a fucking ass?

either way...i hope you stick around. i know i will. i love making assholes cry. :)

~insert lame comeback here~

michael :)

D. Scarlatti
12-08-2005, 06:35 AM
The first I saw of you was more than two months ago, in a thread about Harriet Miers. You began by spouting the usual ridiculous Limbaughesque crap and were given the opportunity to discuss whatever point it was you were trying to raise. You showed yourself completely incapable of doing so.

Since then you have been exposed as dishonest, lying, or just plain wrong so many times I doubt there is anyone here that takes you seriously anymore. The moment you're confronted with an actual fact, or shown that the sources you rely upon are mostly garbage or press releases, you turn tail and scurry off - generally in a sophomoric eruption of smileys and crude sexist insults - and start another thread.

alphamale
12-08-2005, 06:35 AM
You're the one deciding to make a fight out of it, time and time again.

It's often a fight because I'm the only non-liberal here. Without me, this place would be a mutual ass-kissing society. When someone challenges the liberal othodoxy, people like Sacllopini go in full insult mode. Let's you quit the crap, OK?

viscousmemories
12-08-2005, 06:39 AM
Since then you have been exposed as dishonest, lying, or just plain wrong so many times I doubt there is anyone here that takes you seriously anymore. The moment you're confronted with an actual fact, or shown that the sources you rely upon are mostly garbage or press releases, you turn tail and scurry off - generally in a sophomoric eruption of smileys and crude sexist insults - and start another thread
...often to re-assert the same baseless claims that were already thoroughly debunked.

alphamale
12-08-2005, 06:41 AM
Since then you have been exposed as dishonest, lying, or just plain wrong so many times I doubt there is anyone here that takes you seriously anymore. The moment you're confronted with an actual fact, or shown that the sources you rely upon are mostly garbage or press releases, you turn tail and scurry off - generally in a sophomoric eruption of smileys and crude sexist insults - and start another thread
...often to re-assert the same baseless claims that were already thoroughly debunked.

A howler! Scallopini has ducked more topics than I can count!

michael1111
12-08-2005, 06:43 AM
well youre not the only non-liberal now. im not a liberal. its funny...i like talking to liberals more because they seem to feel they have to have bleeding hearts all the time, so they are usually kind. however, conservative people are usually way too anal. i actually agree with your politics more, but why do you always have to be assholes that love to break the golden rule?

its all so stupid to me...

(i know- its cuz im stupid...yadda yadda...)

michael :)

viscousmemories
12-08-2005, 06:45 AM
A howler! Scallopini has ducked more topics than I can count!
Please link to a single argument you've made that Scarlatti has "ducked". I haven't seen one.

seebs
12-08-2005, 06:45 AM
You're the one deciding to make a fight out of it, time and time again.

It's often a fight because I'm the only non-liberal here. Without me, this place would be a mutual ass-kissing society. When someone challenges the liberal othodoxy, people like Sacllopini go in full insult mode. Let's you quit the crap, OK?

How about you quit it? You're the one blaming other people for YOUR BEHAVIOR.

You, not anyone else, make alphamale post derisive one-liners instead of substantive responses. No one else can control alphamale's behavior. Only you can.

You, not anyone else, make up hilarious bullshit about you being the only "non-liberal" here. You gave a definition of "liberal", and it turns out many of us aren't even close. I've voted against every pseudo-socialist thing I've ever been asked for, and in my entire life, the only time I can remember voting for a Democrat, it was out of absolute shock and disgust. I'd rather vote for a pro wrestler than a Democrat. No, really.

There is no such thing as a "fight" without two people deciding to play that game.

If your opinions are any good, defend them. Attacking people does not defend your opinions; it makes you look like you can't defend them.

There are a lot of people here who have managed to have interesting conversations about these issues with people other than you. You're the one who responds with gross generealizations and oversimplifications.

You are everything you claim to hate. Get over it. I would love to see someone willing to make a competent case for some conservative political views, because I do think they're underrepresented here, but the bullshit Rush quotes you spew are not an argument.

When liberals (and I don't deny that they do this) call you stupid names, accuse you of being an idiot, and quote crackpots like Franken and Moore at you, does it actually persuade you? If not, then why the fuck are you preferring that kind of behavior to any kind of argumentation in support of your position?

We've had much better flamers than you here. Hell, I gave up flames for religious reasons, and I'm still better at it than you are. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, threw it in the dryer on too high heat and had the transfer come off.

You have ideas. Do you have reasons to hold them other than unbridled contempt for people whose positions you have never demonstrated any ability to even describe accurately? Then show us those reasons. Do you have any kind of support for your views outside of Moore's right-wing equivalents, like Rush? If so, show us that support.

I'd bet you could make, if you put your mind to it, a damn good argument in favor of your positions on some economic issues. You could probably get people who are promoting simplistic solutions to admit that there are issues those simplistic solutions don't take into account. Instead, you're in a race to see whose solution can become a totally academic exercise in mental masturbation first.

You're not stupid. Why do you persist in acting exactly like the people you say are stupid?

seebs
12-08-2005, 06:47 AM
A howler! Scallopini has ducked more topics than I can count!

Does FF have a user whose name is actually "Scallopini", or are you just engaging in the sort of pathetic name-calling that makes pundits everywhere famous and yet loathesome?

michael1111
12-08-2005, 06:48 AM
good post seebs...

its funny how common this problem is all over...actually...its not funny...

you are not a role or a title. you define who you are...so why use somebody elses words? tell your own truth...

michael :)

alphamale
12-08-2005, 06:52 AM
well youre not the only non-liberal now. im not a liberal. its funny...i like talking to liberals more because they seem to feel they have to have bleeding hearts all the time, so they are usually kind. however, conservative people are usually way too anal. i actually agree with your politics more, but why do you always have to be assholes that love to break the golden rule?

I dunno ... guess they just bring out the sadistic streak in me! They're just dumb bunnies sitting there clueless, and I'm a lion - pounce even when I'm not hungry! :D

michael1111
12-08-2005, 06:53 AM
youre not a lion. youre just somebodys elses idea of what you should be. you sound like you dont know yourself very well. im sure youre more like a mouse that roars ;)

michael :)

alphamale
12-08-2005, 06:55 AM
We've had much better flamers than you here.

Now you're complaining about the quality of my flames? :roflmao:

Ari
12-08-2005, 07:05 AM
alphamale
This message is hidden because alphamale is on your ignore list.
Alphamale, I agree. :D

thewantingseed
12-08-2005, 07:26 AM
Ahem. I have as of yet stayed out of the whole alphamale fray, being new and not wanting to get involved in all the shit flying around. But since this is the only thing people seem to be posting to, and because I'm getting pretty fucking sick of lurking through millions of threads consisting of flaming, I feel compelled to attempt at participation.
I'm just wondering, why are we all playing his game? Alphamale, you're obviously a nutcase simply hungry for attention; you really have no idea what the hell you're talking about, every semi-intelligent thing you post is plagerized, and when you're not copping your information from some other source you resort to petty insults my little sister could one-up. Basically; you're full of it.
But again I ask, why is everyone feeding his pathetic attention whoring? Is it just that people have tried ignoring him, and he won't go away? Because if that's the case, then I would understand all this better. But every single argument I've seen has just been an endless circle of nitpicking and insulting that really goes nowhere and raises the ire of everyone; to no apparent avail.
Maybe this is something I should stay out of; maybe I should just ignore the ass if this bugs me so much.
But it's just kind of ridiculous, in my opinion.

seebs
12-08-2005, 07:26 AM
We've had much better flamers than you here.

Now you're complaining about the quality of my flames? :roflmao:

Yeah, I am. I can respect decent flames, which are an art form in and of themselves. But it's hard to take you seriously when you're taking a break from calling liberals names and talking about lack of accountability, so you can whine about how they're MAKING YOU fight. If the flames were any good, I could at least respect that, but they are utterly sub-par.

seebs
12-08-2005, 07:27 AM
FWIW, I'm talking to him because I don't think he's nearly as stupid as he acts, and I think he'd have something to contribute if he got out of the victim mentality and started making real arguments.

michael1111
12-08-2005, 07:34 AM
but arent you contributing now, tws? maybe people like to fight? i know from my own experience on free forums- you can learn the most from those you cant stand. even through the pettiness and harsh words, there is a lesson youre teaching yourself...well...if you choose to approach it that way. thats what i do. nobody can really ruin your time here or anybody elses. this is all your own trip...imo.

michael :)

thewantingseed
12-08-2005, 07:41 AM
I'm talking to him because I don't think he's nearly as stupid as he acts Understood. I guess I don't know the situation well enough to be able to judge his intelligence level.
Pour résumer, I'm probably a bit too tipsy to get involved, so I retract my objection and resort to more lurking.

viscousmemories
12-08-2005, 07:43 AM
I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people who respond to him, and even then those reasons probably vary from day to day. For my part I rarely find anything he posts particularly interesting or insightful, so it's usually a desire to counter the right-wing propaganda he redistributes, cheap (very) entertainment or because he something he said just plain old pissed me off and I respond off the cuff. Besides, in the daytime and early evening his posts border on the sane. I'm guessing he doesn't bust out the crack pipe until 9ish, typically. :giggle:

Ari
12-08-2005, 07:52 AM
It's like a car accident you just can't drive past without trying to sculpt a smiley face out of brains and intestines.

godfry n. glad
12-08-2005, 07:56 AM
Yeah, I've noticed that happens to you a lot now.

Good! You get it! So no more lectures from the admins!

:blowwhistle:

Foul!

This idiot seems to forget that this is a freethought forum. The admins have just as much right to say what they will as any body else here...including him.

If they wish to critique, then fine. I'll read.

If he doesn't like it...tough shit.

But I cannot read seriously of alphamale. If he's serious, he's seriously deluded.

I'm pretty sure he's a Randian objectivist and enjoys punching people's buttons and pulling people's chains.

An asshole, in other words.

If we have anyone about who can trash hyperlibertarianism and/or Randian objectivism...fire away. I spent some time with them (the Libertarians) in Alaska, and that's just not a fun way to spend one's time. As alphamale is wont to make it obvious for everybody.

I nominate alphamale (aka alfalfasprouts, alf, offalmail, etc.) for a genuine "Catastrophe" (aka Cat Ass Trophy). :catastro: (and, of course for the "pee see" folks, we'd have to have a neutered Cat Ass Trophy. :castrato: ) :D

I put in an order for this some time back and i'll bet it's nowhere near being a finished project.

ms_ann_thrope
12-08-2005, 08:16 AM
I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people who respond to him, and even then those reasons probably vary from day to day. For my part I rarely find anything he posts particularly interesting or insightful, so it's usually a desire to counter the right-wing propaganda he redistributes, cheap (very) entertainment or because he something he said just plain old pissed me off and I respond off the cuff.I used to have him on ignore, but now I sometimes actually find redoubled motivation and inspiration to pursue social justice as a result of interaction with him. Maybe I'll make some financial contributions to the ACLU and NOW in his name. :chin:

godfry n. glad
12-08-2005, 08:43 AM
Y'know...I haven't put him on ignore, ever. I'm pretty sure he's got me on ignore, and has had for quite some time. I've been about to put him on ignore for a week.

It's like trying to quit cigarettes. You know it's bad for you, but you just keep goin' back.

It's junk, man. Just turn and walk away.

Fast.

Put this sucker <that being alphamale> on ignore and never come back.

michael1111
12-08-2005, 08:45 AM
you have ignore buttons? anyone just try to ignore the old-fashioned way?

michael :)

Legs
12-08-2005, 12:15 PM
People playing the victim :violin: it must be the time of year.


Grow a backbone Alphabit, your Mom is not here hide behind. :crybaby:




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livius drusus
12-08-2005, 02:12 PM
Maybe this is something I should stay out of; maybe I should just ignore the ass if this bugs me so much.

Just fyi, seed, if you put him (or anyone else) on ignore, by default it will hide all his threads as well. You'd be surprised at the difference it makes. :)

D. Scarlatti
12-08-2005, 02:38 PM
But again I ask, why is everyone feeding his pathetic attention whoring?

Because he lies a lot, and I think that should be pointed out to his lurker fanclub. It generally doesn't take a lot of effort. There are actually compelling arguments to be made from his side of a lot of issues; the trouble is, he can't seem to make them without lying.

Odysseus
12-08-2005, 02:49 PM
You're the one deciding to make a fight out of it, time and time again.

It's often a fight because I'm the only non-liberal here. Without me, this place would be a mutual ass-kissing society. When someone challenges the liberal othodoxy, people like Sacllopini go in full insult mode. Let's you quit the crap, OK?


Im a member of the Conservative party in the U.K.

MooseIBe
12-08-2005, 03:24 PM
Yeah I invited a bunch of conservatives here just for you Alpha..

Sock Puppet
12-08-2005, 05:24 PM
I dunno ... guess they just bring out the sadistic streak in me! They're just dumb bunnies sitting there clueless, and I'm a lion - pounce even when I'm not hungry! :D
Your sadistic streak isn't nearly as evident as your masochistic one. I've pounded you so hard for one reason only, that you make it so easy. I'd take pity on someone with such obvious ego problems, if you weren't such an asshole about it. So I decided to keep walloping your candy ass to see if you'd keep coming back for more, and you did. You're about the most toothless, clawless "lion" I've ever seen.

You're great at the deliberate obtusity aspect of trolling, but your insults need work. I'm sure you took careful notes so you could use some of your "fellow FFers'" material on other boards at a later date, and pretend it's yours. But I'm pretty much finished with you, so if you need to be someone's bitch, go across the yard and ask Tyrone or Bubba. I'd take you over myself, but I got enough cigarettes for you the last time.

Leesifer
12-08-2005, 05:41 PM
Thing is, he's never going to take notice of anybody anyway, so you might as well just enjoy yourself if you're going to respond to him.

Don't forget, always end your replies with this smiley: :roflmao: