Things vegetarians tire of hearing.

[alphamale]

"Why don't you come anyway? They have salads."

"How do you get protein?"

"Vegetables are alive too!"

"Ah, you can eat it just this once."

"Pork isn't cruel, blah blah blah"

"My uncle was a vegetarian, and he died."

"I couldn't live without steak!"

"Funny, you don't look skinny!"

"Ya know, Hitler was a vegetarian!"

"Hey, I'm a vegetarian too - I just eat chicken and fish!"

Flight attendant: "Looks like they forgot your dinner, but we still have 'beef'"

"Rennet? What's that?"

[Carnivale Ed]

Don't even start. For whatever reason, I've hung around with an abnormal number of vegetarians over the years, and y'all are the preachiest motherfuckers on the planet. You're sick of hearing crap? Try sitting next to yourself at a BBQ.

[TomJoe]

Don't even start. For whatever reason, I've hung around with an abnormal number of vegetarians over the years, and y'all are the preachiest motherfuckers on the planet. You're sick of hearing crap? Try sitting next to yourself at a BBQ.

Amen.

[fragment]

Don't even start. For whatever reason, I've hung around with an abnormal number of vegetarians over the years, and y'all are the preachiest motherfuckers on the planet. You're sick of hearing crap? Try sitting next to yourself at a BBQ.Ho-hum. Some preach, some don't. Chances are you don't notice the not preaching ones.

[wei yau]

I use this one on my vegetarian friends:

"You know, lobsters are more like insects. Does that make it okay?"

[lisarea]

Ho-hum. Some preach, some don't. Chances are you don't notice the not preaching ones.

True that. I don't even think most are that bad at all. Actually, some of the worst ones I've come across turn out not to be vegetarians at all, but just picky assholes who wanted chicken in their fried rice and got shrimp. (Yep. Saw that happen once.)

Anyway, I have some questions, too. I'm sorry if you're tired of hearing these:

Would it be OK to eat meat from an animal that was still alive? Like, if you had your dog's tail cropped or something, and the tail meat would go to waste otherwise.

Similarly (I think I've brought this up here before), would you be allowed to eat meat of yourself, like your OWN amputated limb, or, like, could you use your own liposuctioned belly fat for sauteeing vegetables in or whatever?

Is biting your fingernails like eating meat, and what if you got some cuticle or something? What if you bit someone else's fingernails?

Do you eat meat-eating plants? Like, would you eat a Venus Flytrap or whatever?

What if there was some kind of delicious vegetable that only grew on meat? Like some kind of meat fungus or whatever. Could you eat that?

What about lab-grown meat, like Animal 57, where they grew just meat with no brains or faces or whatever attached to them? Would you eat that?

[viscousmemories]

I think I just puked in my mouth.

[TomJoe]

Can vegetarians eat soylent green?

[fragment]

Dunno if you're asking me or alpha there, lisarea, but as it happens I'm not vegetarian; I eat seafood. I have been vegetarian though, and did a 2-3 year stint of veganism as well. My current position is that it comes down to a subjective moral judgement of whether the suffering involved in food production is justified by my desire/need to eat it. In most cases it's a pretty easy call for me as I have little desire to eat non-aquatic meat on aesthetic grounds anyway.

[ms_ann_thrope]

Similarly (I think I've brought this up here before), would you be allowed to eat meat of yourself, like your OWN amputated limb, or, like, could you use your own liposuctioned belly fat for sauteeing vegetables in or whatever?Yeah, we previously discussed eating human flesh from a legal perspective. But you asking here from a dietary-restriction perspective?

What about lab-grown meat, like Animal 57, where they grew just meat with no brains or faces or whatever attached to them? Would you eat that?That new engineered meat sounds interesting to me, but it's just flesh. Creating a living Franken-animal from which to harvest meat is kind of creepy (although I'm sure an argument could be made that "Franken-animals" are exactly what comprise modern factory farming). Did you ever hear the urban legend about KFC (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/kfc.asp ) ? I know it's not true (OK, I don't *know* it... I prefer to believe that it's not true), but I haven't been able to eat there ever since. I keep thinking of the Gary Larson "Boneless Chicken Farm" cartoon.

[lisarea]

Similarly (I think I've brought this up here before), would you be allowed to eat meat of yourself, like your OWN amputated limb, or, like, could you use your own liposuctioned belly fat for sauteeing vegetables in or whatever?Yeah, we previously discussed eating human flesh from a legal perspective. But you asking here from a dietary-restriction perspective?

Yeah, that was it!

So we haven't discussed the implications for vegetarians at all yet.

You know, I'm thinking we should have a forum for questions about eating meat of yourself, because I find it difficult to locate all the many "eating yourself" discussions spanning the various forums on this board.


I was a vegetarian for about six years. I'm just trying to win the thread by inventing even dumber questions than the usual.

[alphamale]

it comes down to a subjective moral judgement

There's no such thing.

[BDS]

Beau Brummell, the Regency wit and dandy, never ate vegetables.

At one dinner, his partner noticed that he was partaking only of meat, and asked, Tell me, Mr. Brummell, do you ever eat vegetables?"

"Once, several years back, I ate a pea," replied Brummell.

[alphamale]

That new engineered meat sounds interesting to me, but it's just flesh. Creating a living Franken-animal from which to harvest meat is kind of creepy

The whole damn thing about dead animal consumption is already creepy!

Animals are raised in factory farms, under horrendous conditions. They are injected with growth hormones, food color, anti-biotics, and preservatives. They are sometimes boiled alive. When you buy them at the store, they've already started to rot. Ever notice that smell by the meat case? Especially in organic meat groceries? It's the smell of corpse. When you put them in the fridge, they're still rotting. When you eat them, you like the taste, but a flood of cholesterol goes into your system. The cholesterol causes plaques to attach to your coronary arteries, setting you up for a heart attack. Meanwhile, the digestion products in your colon may trigger colon cancer. Poultry are fed from a mixture of the scraps left over from slaughtered poultry - they're unwitting cannibals.

And you're tallking creepy?

[ms_ann_thrope]

That new engineered meat sounds interesting to me, but it's just flesh. Creating a living Franken-animal from which to harvest meat is kind of creepy

The whole damn thing about dead animal consumption is already creepy!

Animals are raised in factory farms, under horrendous conditions. They are injected with growth hormones, food color, anti-biotics, and preservatives. They are sometimes boiled alive. When you buy them at the store, they've already started to rot. Ever notice that smell by the meat case? Especially in organic meat groceries? It's the smell of corpse. When you put them in the fridge, they're still rotting. When you eat them, you like the taste, but a flood of cholesterol goes into your system. The cholesterol causes plaques to attach to your coronary arteries, setting you up for a heart attack. Meanwhile, the digestion products in your colon may trigger colon cancer. Poultry are fed from a mixture of the scraps left over from slaughtered poultry - they're unwitting cannibals.

And you're tallking creepy?
I guess you missed my comment about factory farming already being filled with "Franken-animals." :shrug: I don't disagree. The argument about eating meat = eating "rotting" food is kind of silly, though -- I mean, everything that is not preserved is in some stage of decomposition when we eat it, right? Fruits and veggies taste best when they are "ripe," which means they have started the decay process.

As much as I adore animals, I cannot deny that I love the way they taste. Especially uncooked beef and fish. :homdrool:

But, I also really like tofu and legumes. I'm quite omnivorous, actually leaning toward the vegetable part of the spectrum.

[alphamale]

As much as I adore animals, I cannot deny that I love the way they taste.

What raises you to the level of a moral being is you don't necessarily do something because it feels good. I like my neighbor's mercedes, but I'm not going to steal it. There's some people whose face I'd like to punch, but I don't. Usually.

[TomJoe]

There's some people whose face I'd like to punch, but I don't. Usually.

Oh, tough guy. Either they're letting you surf the 'net from your cell or you're a lying sack of poop. Given your fits of IBS, it's probably the latter.

[viscousmemories]

There's some people whose face I'd like to punch, but I don't. Usually.
Let me guess: You make an exception for petite girls.

[Ari]

"Do you eat meat-eating plants? Like, would you eat a Venus Flytrap or whatever?"

I've asked this question to him before but he gave me the standard sad insult answer instead of a real one. I am curious of the answer. Are plants that eat animals considered vegitarian kosher? What about Vegan kosher?

I'm also curious if serious vegans feed their cats special animal free meals (as you know they have got to all have cats :) )?

[Widget]

What raises you to the level of a moral being is you don't necessarily do something because it feels good. I like my neighbor's mercedes, but I'm not going to steal it. There's some people whose face I'd like to punch, but I don't. Usually.


Nobody does anything that doesn't make them feel good!

What is liking a Mercedes got to do with anything, when you grow up and get a licence I will let you drive mine.

Please point your face in this direction.

[ms_ann_thrope]

I'm also curious if serious vegans feed their cats special animal free meals (as you know they have got to all have cats :) )?I have one friend who is vegan, and he feeds his dog (he's allergic to cats) a vegan diet. I feel sorry for the dog, but then, most commercial pet food is crap anyway.

[Carnivale Ed]

Animals are raised in factory farms, under horrendous conditions. They are injected with growth hormones, food color, anti-biotics, and preservatives. They are sometimes boiled alive. When you buy them at the store, they've already started to rot. Ever notice that smell by the meat case? Especially in organic meat groceries? It's the smell of corpse. When you put them in the fridge, they're still rotting. When you eat them, you like the taste, but a flood of cholesterol goes into your system. The cholesterol causes plaques to attach to your coronary arteries, setting you up for a heart attack. Meanwhile, the digestion products in your colon may trigger colon cancer. Poultry are fed from a mixture of the scraps left over from slaughtered poultry - they're unwitting cannibals.
Yes, I remember it vividly, we did sit next to one another at a BBQ.