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Sweetie
02-02-2006, 05:21 AM
Alright so, was watching a show about how so many teens
aren't having actual intercourse, but are performing oral sex
instead. For some reason it seems that they don't think
that one can catch STDs this way but when I think about it,
truth is, I don't know which ones one can catch that way
either, and how one would avoid them. Its something I think
I should know just because its good to know, so the question
is, are all STDs transferable via oral sex, or are they avoidable
given certain actions or what have you?

As far as things go right now, I know that STDs are more highly
transferable through the anal cavity because it absorbs faster
due to the type of skin there.

What transfers it though, are things like Aids transfered through
secretions external to the skin, through the skin, what?

Thoughts?

ms_ann_thrope
02-02-2006, 05:44 AM
Unprotected oral sex could get ya HIV, hepatitis B, herpes, gonorrhea, syphilis, HPV. I think the only things you're unlikely to be able to get are trichomoniasis and chlamydia.

The mucosal skin in the mouth is a lot like the skin in the vagina and anus. So pretty much what would protect you from infection in input #1 and input #2 would be effective for input #3 as well. IOW, a physical barrier, like a condom or dental dam.

Sweetie
02-02-2006, 05:55 AM
The mucosal skin in the mouth is a lot like the skin in the vagina and anus. So pretty much what would protect you from infection in input #1 and input #2 would be effective for input #3 as well. IOW, a physical barrier, like a condom or dental dam.

Well, part of my question is, is it the secretions being brought into the mouth that is being absorbed or are there cells on the surface of the skin that can be brought into the mouth and absorbed.

I suppose part of my question is, is there a difference between the liklihood of getting an STD from performing oral sex on a woman, or with a man.

With a man, they have pre-cum and then the actual sperm but I'm not aware of any other secretions, females are all secretions so if one would assume that there was no pre-cum with a male, and then they avoided contact with actual sperm in the mouth, would there be less liklihood of transference from the male?

username
02-02-2006, 06:06 AM
The mucosal skin in the mouth is a lot like the skin in the vagina and anus. So pretty much what would protect you from infection in input #1 and input #2 would be effective for input #3 as well. IOW, a physical barrier, like a condom or dental dam.

Well, part of my question is, is it the secretions being brought into the mouth that is being absorbed or are there cells on the surface of the skin that can be brought into the mouth and absorbed.

As I understand it the saliva in the mouth kills most STDs on contact so the risk is low with oral sex. Open sores in the mouth increase risk.

A person with visible genital warts probably shouldn't be gone down on, but other than that it is low risk. Yes, there can be sores on the skin that infect, it isn't just the secretions for all STDs.

What I really want to know is what guys enjoy a BJ while wearing a condom and what woman received and enjoyed oral sex with a dental dam. Also, what woman (or guy) enjoys giving a BJ to a latex covered cock? I mean safety is important, but at some point the fun factor decreases to the point it isn't worth it. My opinion anyway.

Sweetie
02-02-2006, 06:15 AM
What I really want to know is what guys enjoy a BJ while wearing a condom and what woman received and enjoyed oral sex with a dental dam. Also, what woman (or guy) enjoys giving a BJ to a latex covered cock?

No freaking way am I going down on any guy with a condom on. I have this motto, "skin is in." :nod:

I mean safety is important, but at some point the fun factor decreases to the point it isn't worth it. My opinion anyway.

That's my opinion.

Too, I am scared of STDs, and I do not value sex over my health, I don't like condoms therefore monogomy for me.

ms_ann_thrope
02-02-2006, 08:04 AM
HPV and herpes aren't transmitted through fluids --- they're spread via skin-to-skin contact. The person doesn't need to have visible sores or warts in order to be infectious, but for sure, anything visible would be a sign to not touch! :shudder:

I mean safety is important, but at some point the fun factor decreases to the point it isn't worth it.Well, if it's a choice between wrapping up the goods or getting no play, I think most people will oblige. Actually safer sex can be quite sexy because the brief 'set-up' time for getting barrier devices in position definitely serves to heighten anticipation about the lovely naughty pleasures about to be enjoyed. Oh yes... :lecher:

Godless Dave
02-02-2006, 11:55 AM
Most STDs are transmitted by an exchange of fluids. So a woman giving a man oral sex is much more likely to catch those STDs from him than he is from her. And woman are not likely at all to pass them to each other via oral sex. But blood is a fluid, so any open sores in your mouth, on your lips, or on the genitals increase the danger.

But some can be transmitted by just skin-to-skin contact: HPV (warts), Herpes, and scabies. (Scabies is actually little mites that dig under your skin and crawl around *shudder*.)

Godless Dave
02-02-2006, 11:56 AM
And speaking of condoms, my girlfriend really likes the studded ones, so in that sense they heighten the pleasure, not diminish from it.

Adora
02-02-2006, 01:25 PM
Oh in the name of all that is e-holy, learn to use google, Sweetie. *hedesk*

Sweetie
02-07-2006, 02:53 PM
And speaking of condoms, my girlfriend really likes the studded ones, so in that sense they heighten the pleasure, not diminish from it.

Condoms were fine with me but not with him until my first child. Even though apparently the three guys stitching me up did a fantastic phenomenal job according the nurses and I'm as good as new now :P , it still took me a long time to completely heal (at least a year). Condoms were completely out of the question, only the softest of the soft of that which could be used for sexual gratification was ok. Now of course, we could never go back, been living the good life for years and years. :D

I think thats a bit too much information, however its been a curiosity to some, my complete dislike and refusal to use condoms so there is an explanation for those who wish it.

TomJoe
02-07-2006, 02:58 PM
As I understand it the saliva in the mouth kills most STDs on contact so the risk is low with oral sex. Open sores in the mouth increase risk.



You understand wrong. In my time as a medical technician, I can't begin to tell you the number of times people would get throat swabs complaining of a chronic sore throat, only to have it turn up gonorrhoeae. These organisms are designed to live on mucosal surfaces.

In addition, more studies are showing that HIV is transmitted via oral sex only. And it's a two way street too. Giver and receiver are both susceptible.

ETA: Trichomoniasis and chlamydia can be spread via oral sex.

username
02-07-2006, 03:33 PM
In addition, more studies are showing that HIV is transmitted via oral sex only. And it's a two way street too. Giver and receiver are both susceptible.


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Hey, my STD info can't be wrong, I get it from Talk Sex with Sue! :D

TomJoe
02-07-2006, 03:41 PM
Since I've been quoted, I'll make a new post containing my correction.

I didn't mean to imply that HIV transmission is via oral sex only, though now that I reread what I wrote, that's how it looks to come across. Rather, I meant to say that HIV can be transmitted via oral sex alone. So, as it currently stands, HIV transmittance has now been linked to all three body cavities commonly employed during sex.

D. Scarlatti
02-07-2006, 06:59 PM
... all three body cavities commonly employed during sex.

Speak for yourself.

TomJoe
02-07-2006, 07:04 PM
... all three body cavities commonly employed during sex.

Speak for yourself.

:glare:

Widget
02-08-2006, 12:08 AM
I hear you can get Aids from a toilet set .

Especially if you sit down before the other guy gets up.

ms_ann_thrope
02-08-2006, 04:12 AM
ETA: Trichomoniasis and chlamydia can be spread via oral sex.:shudder: Thanks for the correction, though. :yuck:

TomJoe
02-08-2006, 05:02 AM
I hear you can get Aids from a toilet set .

Especially if you sit down before the other guy gets up.

Actually, you'd get HIV. AIDS is a disease which eventually results from HIV infection. Just being a pedant here.