I Wanna Hear Some Slang

[livius drusus]

Every school, neighborhood, circle of friends, city, state, general neck of the woods seems to have a stash of unique words or phrases. My favorites come from college.

Vid: noun, verb, corruption of video, means something like scene. Can be used in a how you doing situation ("how're your vids, man?"), to describe the quality of an event and/or encounter ("last night's hookup was a bad vid all around"), or even as a compound verb as when standing at a keg with a cup out ("Good-vid me, dude").

Butt: adj., noun, corruption of bud (as in kind bud, as in weed), basically a synonym for stoned but with a twist. Often used as a suggestion for an evening's passtime ("Dude, let's get butt tonight"), but most charmingly used to describe certain convenience food snacks ("You bring the buttchow").

Mote: verb, corruption of motivate, approximately means get moving. Used most commonly as an exortation ("We'd better mote with this buttchow or the vids will suck").

Even though it's been 10 years since I graduated from college, I still find myself using these terms at the most random times. That's why I need some new slang, you see. So cough up, y'all. :)

[Bella]

"he sellin' wolf tickets" = "he's giving you some bullshit"

[LadyShea]

As far as I know, this term is used my myself, my husband, and my brother only. Perhaps you can take it up and spread it through Dixie

Backawack!: Derived from BlackJack as pronounced by a dealer (origin of accent unknown) at a total dive Casino that is now closed. We use it as an exclamation with regards to a victory, like "Score!" or "Touchdown!"

Come to think of it, we use a lot of gambling terms.

"And we have a winnah!!" or "Winnah 7": Craps dealers still cling to this stereotypical carnie sounding dice calling. This is used in place of game show type phrases I hear others use at times. Can't think of an example right now

"You're third base, you gotta take the hit": Third base is the last position at a BlackJack table. This person's play can make or break everyone else, and they often have to sacrifice or take the bust card to save the rest of the players. We use this in (usually work) situations where one has to make a sacrifice to benefit the group...similar to "The buck stops with you", or "Youre the captain take one for the team".

"Double Down, baby": If you have a 10 or 11 in your hand, you can double your bet to get one card in the hopes you pull a 10 or face card. We use this instead of "Go for it"

Damn I am pathetic aren't I?

We use a lot of movie references as slang too. I loved the slang in Swingers, but it was overused so I never used it....but I still love the term "Money" in place of "cool" or 'Great"

[Dingfod]

"meat" = "dead meat" = "toast" = "it's over" or "they're done" as in: My wife caught me flirting with the busty cashier at the liquor store and I'm meat.

"meats" = big, gnarly tires as in: I see you got some new meats on your rig.

"rig" = four wheel drive truck or SUV, as in the above.

"dink" = "dip" = stupid person, as in: He's such a dink.

Mind you, these are from my young adult years, not current. I do not know any current slang at all.

[The Lone Ranger]

Well, let's see, I'm originally from New England, Maine to be precise. Here are some words and phrases you might hear there:

Ayup: Whenever anyone asks you a question and you wish to reply in the affirmative, you say "ayup." (New Englanders are famous for being able to compress an entire sentence into just one word, or even better, a look.) Pronunciation is everything, and depending upon how it's pronounced, the simple word "ayup" can convey quite a lot of information. [A word of advice: only native New Englanders can pronounce this word properly. It sounds ridiculous coming from anyone else.]

Cap'n: In coastal Maine, anyone who owns a seagoing vessel of any kind (including a rowboat) is referred to as "Cap'n" (not "Captain" -- "Cap'n").

Dear: (Pronounced "De-ah"): A common term of affection in Maine, but it has no particular connotations of romance. In fact, it's quite common in Maine for a couple of rugged, grizzled lumberjacks to greet each other with, "Hello Dear, how ya doin'?" (I used to do this, but I've trained myself not to. It used to freak people out -- especially males -- when I'd casually call them "dear.")

Wicked: Very. Example: "It's wicked cold out tonight!" This slang word seems to be making its way out of New England, I've noticed.

Numb: Mentally slow.

Number than a hake: Stupid.

Whale on: To strike with great force. This is another phrase that seems to be making its way out of New England.

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I've noticed that some words, while not exactly slang, are more commonly used in some parts of the country than others.

Rugged is a good example. I hear it used all the time in Maine, where, when describing a person, it generally means "strong" or "muscular," but it's not a very commonly-used word in the rest of the country. People tend to look at me funny if I describe someone as looking "rugged."

Dungarees is another such word. People in rural New England rarely say "jeans" -- denim pants are "dungarees."

Hamburg: Ground-up cow shaped into a patty, fried, and placed on a bun is "hamburg" in New England, not "hamburger."

Chips: Thinly-sliced potatoes that have been deep fried are "chips," not "potato chips." The term "potato chips" is considered redundant in Maine.

Elastics: People "from Away" call these "rubber bands."

From Away: Anyone not fortunate enough to have been born in Maine is "from Away."

Cheers,

Michael

[Petra]

Hmmm, I can't think of any right now. Except, maybe, "she'll be right", and "as useless as tits on a bull". They're kinda self-explanatory I guess.

[Beth]

tater pot
flow money
ballywalls testicles
marijuwanna You can figure this out
nassy nasty
tweetle turtle
whipped What my husband's friends say he is...they are sooo baked
wife-beater a sleeveless undershirt
wut what
amped excited
on the rag menstral period
bang or hit dat um, have casual sex with
bob to vomit
bust a nut to ejaculate
BOB WAR barbed wire :P
durious tedious or boring
bitch poo* a crack whore
cuntuous bad, uncool, unhappy
jungalies boobs
man norks* a woman with a flat chest, smaller than an a cup, really.
chumplet a complete chump
Kelli* a permiscuous girl
snow bird A canadian or Yankee that migrates down to Florida in the winter (yes, I use this slang, most Floridians do)
fubar fucked up beyond all reason
slithered to get trashed, messed up, drunk, high
butt love a bad smell in the air, like passing a cow pasture
dickstrum when the penis and scrotum are one...i still have not figured it out, an insult completely
chino a baked guy that smoked himself beyond any recovery, brain fried
strip of bacon ass
*I personally do not use these words.

Um, not sure if all the spelling is correct. I know tons more. My kids, husband, teens I know, and hubby's buddy's use a lot of them. I could list a lot of the slang, but some are very, very derrogatory. So I only gave a sample of some of the derrogatory words.

[Socratoad]

He/she has a heart darker than a nun's armpit.

I have no experience in ascertaining whether a nun's armpit is darker than anyone else's, however that used to be a rather common term back when the glaciers began to recede (my youth).

Got a million of em but my mind is presently in low gear :(

[pescifish]

("We'd better mote with this buttchow or the vids will suck")That's just so Clockwork Orangey!

Socratoad's nuns remind me of an occasional saying by a propulsion PhD I worked with on-and-off for 13 years. When referring to getting down in the data bit trenches and working closely with someone he would say "we worked armpit to armpit on this analysis".

[Socratoad]

Two from Newfoundland:

Hey bi (boy) I picked up yer mail, der was none.
Hey bi, weer in fer a spell O weder.

[Socratoad]

Madder than a lizagator.


A lizagator is a creature that has a lizard's head on one end and an alligator's head on the other, thus it cannot crap and is very very mad :fuming:

[LadyShea]

snow bird A canadian or Yankee that migrates down to Florida in the winter (yes, I use this slang, most Floridians do)

Don't feel weird for using this, we use it to. My folks in Gulf Shores have snowbirds, mostly from Michigan. We here in Las Vegas and much of Arizona have snowbirds; mostly retired RVers from colder Western states like Colorado and Idaho :) In fact, the big RV parks are called Snowbird Camps here

[Beth]

snow bird A canadian or Yankee that migrates down to Florida in the winter (yes, I use this slang, most Floridians do)
Don't feel weird for using this, we use it to. My folks in Gulf Shores have snowbirds, mostly from Michigan. We here in Las Vegas and much of Arizona have snowbirds; mostly retired RVers from colder Western states like Colorado and Idaho :) In fact, the big RV parks are called Snowbird Camps hereOh cool! I thought it was indicitive of this area. Sometimes I wonder if I am being mean by using it, but the snow birds here seem to accept the term.

[Socratoad]

snow bird A canadian or Yankee that migrates down to Florida in the winter (yes, I use this slang, most Floridians do)
Don't feel weird for using this, we use it to. My folks in Gulf Shores have snowbirds, mostly from Michigan. We here in Las Vegas and much of Arizona have snowbirds; mostly retired RVers from colder Western states like Colorado and Idaho :) In fact, the big RV parks are called Snowbird Camps hereOh cool! I thought it was indicitive of this area. Sometimes I wonder if I am being mean by using it, but the snow birds here seem to accept the term.

Yeppers, even we canucks refer to our citizens who winter in Florida as snowbirds.

Florida: Canada's eleventh province :yup:

[Socratoad]

Seeing that I just used this one in another thread spontaneously methinks it belongs here:

"It could'nt happen to nicer guy."

Meaning some long overdue justice has been bestowed upon a distinguished creep.

[Ymir's blood]

snow bird A canadian or Yankee that migrates down to Florida in the winter (yes, I use this slang, most Floridians do)

Don't feel weird for using this, we use it to. My folks in Gulf Shores have snowbirds, mostly from Michigan. We here in Las Vegas and much of Arizona have snowbirds; mostly retired RVers from colder Western states like Colorado and Idaho :) In fact, the big RV parks are called Snowbird Camps here
There is a term for 'Florida Yankees' that summer here, but it isn't quite as nice.

[Socratoad]

snow bird A canadian or Yankee that migrates down to Florida in the winter (yes, I use this slang, most Floridians do)

Don't feel weird for using this, we use it to. My folks in Gulf Shores have snowbirds, mostly from Michigan. We here in Las Vegas and much of Arizona have snowbirds; mostly retired RVers from colder Western states like Colorado and Idaho :) In fact, the big RV parks are called Snowbird Camps here
There is a term for 'Florida Yankees' that summer here, but it isn't quite as nice.


Surely not "carpetbaggers" :eek:

[Ymir's blood]

There is a term for 'Florida Yankees' that summer here, but it isn't quite as nice.


Surely not "carpetbaggers" :eek:

Nah, I've never heard someone say that seriously. The term is 'Floridiot.' It doesn't mean someone who is actually native to the state, but the retirees who come here in the summertime and clog up the roads. (as opposed to the leaf-lookers in the fall and skiers in the wintertime.)

[Beth]

Oh, we have some choice words for the Northerners who come here and drive like morons. But I think they really are just too offensive to post in this thread.;)

Oh, just remember, Ymir, alot of those retirees with Florida plates could originally be Snow Birds :P

[Ymir's blood]

Oh, just remember, Ymir, alot of those retirees with Florida plates could originally be Snow Birds :P
Oh, they only have to open their mouths to verify they aren't Florida natives.

[Adora]

I can honestly say we didn't use a lot of slang at my highschool. Most of the rhyming slang I know comes from around the house. 'Tank, Tea-Leaf, Stammer-and-stutter, dead horse, etc etc.

[BigBlue2]

I Wanna Hear Some Slang
Strewth, luv, I reckon that for a seppo you're a top notch sheila, and if I'm ever over there I'll look you up for a chinwag and to blow the froth off a cold one. My shout of course.

[livius drusus]

You Ozzies shore do talk purty. :swagman:

[Megatron]

Geek stuff:

stunk: Sorta like smoked or owned, except focused on making someone look REALLY stupid... "Man, ____ got into a bitch-session with ____ about DNS and got TOTALLY stunk!"

nerf: This originated, I believe, from online games, but has spread from that. It means to render something useless, or less powerful, etc... "They nerfed our admin, so you'll have to call the server guys to fix this"

Stuff you say at the club:

sting: One night stand (aka f&f, fuck and forget)

scraper: A pick up babe. Someone you go after (usually at a bar or club) specificially for the purpose of a sting. When they're crazy and drunk enough they usually leave a good bit of nail marks on your back.

anchor or queen: A scraper's ugly friend that you can't seem to shake her loose of unless you have a winger (described below). Name derived from the longer "Queen of Spades" which is reference to Hearts (it's worth half the points in the deck, and can be the biggest pain in the ass to get rid of)

winger: Sometimes when you go to the bar/club with the express purpose of picking up scrapers, you need someone to divert said scraper's ugly girlfriend (the queen) so you can have some time alone to dance/talk/get drunk/whatever you need to do to hopefully score a sting. (Sometimes your winger will sting the queen, and sometimes we call that shooting the moon... :rofl: )

...more to come...

[Beth]

Oh, just remember, Ymir, alot of those retirees with Florida plates could originally be Snow Birds :P
Oh, they only have to open their mouths to verify they aren't Florida natives.Funny thing about us natives is that we often do not have country accents, especially if we live in urban areas. My accent, which I can force myself not to use, has really only bloomed since moving out here into hickville. Many Floridian natives are hard to distinguish between some of the Midwesterners and even Canadians. The one thing that gives Canadians away is this "oo" sound they make in place of...oh, somebody help me help me here.

But one Southern giveaway is that we often speak sentences and statements in ways that sound like a questions.

[Godless Dave]

Whale on: To strike with great force. This is another phrase that seems to be making its way out of New England.
We said that all the time as kids in New York state. I had no idea it was regional.

[Godless Dave]

I can't think of too many Minnesota slang words, but maybe because I've lived here so long. Rather than slang words, we have some speech idiosyncrasies having to do with word order and alternate prepositions.

with: roughly, "along". Usage: "He came with" = "He came along"; "He came with us". It sounds like we're leaving off the object of the preposition "with", but actually it's a construct similar to German separable prefixes. It's like saying "I put my shirt on". (I suspect, but don't know for sure, that this usage came from German immigrants learning English as a second language).

by: "at" or "near". "I'm over by Dave's house" can mean "I'm near Dave's house" or "I'm at Dave's house".

to: "at". "We was up to the cabin" means "We were up at the cabin."

lake: any body of water larger than a puddle. (Contrast with Vermonters, who call any body of water smaller than Lake Champlain a "pond").

sweet corn: regular yellow corn on the cob. This is to differentiate it from corn you would feed to livestock. Far more corn is grown here as animal feed than for people to eat.

Another thing we do is call certain thoroughfares by nicknames you won't find on any map or street sign. Highway 62 is "the crosstown". Ayd Mill Road is "the short line". Even the traffic reporters do this. Very confusing for out-of-towners looking for directions or getting a traffic update.

[JoeP]

I can't think of too many Minnesota slang words, but maybe because I've lived here so long. Rather than slang words, we have some speech idiosyncrasies having to do with word order and alternate prepositions.

with: roughly, "along". Usage: "He came with" = "He came along"; "He came with us". It sounds like we're leaving off the object of the preposition "with", but actually it's a construct similar to German separable prefixes. It's like saying "I put my shirt on". (I suspect, but don't know for sure, that this usage came from German immigrants learning English as a second language).

by: "at" or "near". "I'm over by Dave's house" can mean "I'm near Dave's house" or "I'm at Dave's house".
Is there perhaps a Dutch immigrant history in Minnesota? These modes of speech are very common in SA, and "by" (as in "Where shall we meet? There by you?") particularly among Afrikaners speaking English.

[Godless Dave]

No, but a lot of German immigrants settled here, and those prepositions (or their cognates) are used very similarly in German. There were also a lot of Swedish and Norwegian immigrants, but I don't know much about those languages, other than that they, along with Dutch and German, are part of the same family.

[Godless Wonder]

I saw Ewan MacGregor on The Tonight Show last night and he used a phrase I hadn't heard before. He was talking about a trip literally around the world on motorcycles that he and a friend had made, and he talked about how they would "rock up" at some Mongolian village on their BMWs wearing their motorcycle gear, meaning "'show up' or 'arrive' in an impressive manner," I guess. He used "rock up" a couple times.

[LadyShea]

So livius, any of this sparking your interest enough to start using regularly?

[Beth]

I can't think of too many Minnesota slang words, but maybe because I've lived here so long. Rather than slang words, we have some speech idiosyncrasies having to do with word order and alternate prepositions.

with: roughly, "along". Usage: "He came with" = "He came along"; "He came with us". It sounds like we're leaving off the object of the preposition "with", but actually it's a construct similar to German separable prefixes. It's like saying "I put my shirt on". (I suspect, but don't know for sure, that this usage came from German immigrants learning English as a second language).

by: "at" or "near". "I'm over by Dave's house" can mean "I'm near Dave's house" or "I'm at Dave's house".

to: "at". "We was up to the cabin" means "We were up at the cabin."

lake: any body of water larger than a puddle. (Contrast with Vermonters, who call any body of water smaller than Lake Champlain a "pond").

sweet corn: regular yellow corn on the cob. This is to differentiate it from corn you would feed to livestock. Far more corn is grown here as animal feed than for people to eat.

Another thing we do is call certain thoroughfares by nicknames you won't find on any map or street sign. Highway 62 is "the crosstown". Ayd Mill Road is "the short line". Even the traffic reporters do this. Very confusing for out-of-towners looking for directions or getting a traffic update.
Dave, it seems we use all of these words in the same or nearly the same way, only difference I see is that our sweet corn is actually sweeter than regular corn and can either be yellow or white.

[Bella]

Oh, we have some choice words for the Northerners who come here and drive like morons. But I think they really are just too offensive to post in this thread. ;)
In Wisconsin we have choice words for Illinois residents who come up to their "up north cabins" for the weekend and wreak havoc on our highways: FIBs, or Fucking Illinois Bastards.

No offence to any FIBs here, of course :D.
Another thing we do is call certain thoroughfares by nicknames you won't find on any map or street sign. Highway 62 is "the crosstown". Ayd Mill Road is "the short line". Even the traffic reporters do this. Very confusing for out-of-towners looking for directions or getting a traffic update.
Thanks, Dave, for clearing this up for me. I listen to Jazz 88 and am always confused during the traffic reports as to what the hell "crosstown" was.

Now, how do you pronounce "Ayd Mill Road" anyway?

[Godless Dave]

"Ayd" is pronounced like "Aid". Cheesehead. ;)

[Cool Hand]

"You're third base, you gotta take the hit": Third base is the last position at a BlackJack table. This person's play can make or break everyone else, and they often have to sacrifice or take the bust card to save the rest of the players. We use this in (usually work) situations where one has to make a sacrifice to benefit the group...similar to "The buck stops with you", or "Youre the captain take one for the team".


At the risk of sounding like a spoilsport, this persistent bit of blackjack mythology always irritates me, so I feel compelled to try to dispel it whenever I hear or see it.

When using statistically correct basic strategy, which of course varies from casino to casino, and sometimes from one table to another, depending on the rules in force, a player should never give any consideration to the play of anyone else's hand, except for the dealer's. Of course, the dealer's play is automatic and fixed by the rules, so his or her "play" is not a factor, but the "up" card is.

The only exception is for someone who is employing basic strategy and also using some card counting method. In that case, the player counts the cards showing and adds them to the running count. Nevertheless, no one else's play affects the correct play for any other player.

Thus, it is incorrect to impose upon the player sitting at 3rd base a mythical duty to take the bust card that would otherwise go to the dealer. Another reason this is silly is because no one knows what that "bust card" is or where it is. The sacrifice hit the 3rd base player takes could be a 4, for instance, followed by a 8 which goes to the dealer and gives him a 21. The 3rd base player should play his or her hand exactly the way he or she would play it if sitting at 1st base, in the middle, or anywhere else. It makes no difference whatsoever to anyone else's hand or to the odds of beating the dealer.

Even if you think it does affect the outcome on any given hand, playing your own hand independently of what others are doing or expect you to do will not affect anyone else's outcome over time. That's what odds are all about. Thus, it's silly to get angry with another player, claiming that his play allowed the dealer to get a 21, or that he didn't take the bust card. His play does not affect yours, and over time it doesn't affect the outcome at all.

I had a regular gambling buddy who always deferred his own hand playing decisions to any player who wagered a large amount on a hand. He reasoned, incorrectly, that since the heavy player had so much more at stake, and that his play might influence whether the heavy player won the hand or not, the play of his own hand should rightfully belong to the heavier player. The simple answer is that it makes no difference. The correct strategy, except for some relatively rare modifications to play depending on card count when one is employing a counting system, is always to play the statistically correct basic strategy play. This play is mechanical, requiring no intuitive guesswork or deference to others. It is determined strictly by examining one's own hand and the up card of the dealer, and knowing what the correct play is simply from having memorized a matrix. That's it.

(Sorry for the minor derailment.)



I loved the slang in Swingers, but it was overused so I never used it....but I still love the term "Money" in place of "cool" or 'Great"

I agree. Vince Vaughn's character beat those terms to death. It's too bad, because Jon Favreau, who wrote and co-starred in it, has a great talent for dialogue, and his "money" term is witty and cool.

Cool Hand

[Megatron]

Whale on: To strike with great force. This is another phrase that seems to be making its way out of New England.
Dude, that made it all the way to California even in the '80s. I used to say that when I was a kid in Laguna Niguel.

[LadyShea]

At the risk of sounding like a spoilsport, this persistent bit of blackjack mythology always irritates me, so I feel compelled to try to dispel it whenever I hear or see it.

When using statistically correct basic strategy, which of course varies from casino to casino, and sometimes from one table to another, depending on the rules in force, a player should never give any consideration to the play of anyone else's hand, except for the dealer's. Of course, the dealer's play is automatic and fixed by the rules, so his or her "play" is not a factor, but the "up" card is.

I agree, the problem is stupid or inconsistent play on the part of the third base....taking a hit on 16 when the dealer is showing a 6 or something. I know it is not usually a conscious sacrifice, just playing correctly and intelligently. I explained it in the simplest terms however, because the third base will get the cheers or jeers.

The only exception is for someone who is employing basic strategy and also using some card counting method. In that case, the player counts the cards showing and adds them to the running count. Nevertheless, no one else's play affects the correct play for any other player.Thus, it is incorrect to impose upon the player sitting at 3rd base a mythical duty to take the bust card that would otherwise go to the dealer.

Again though, if the third base takes the dealers bust card or whatever, regardless of his system or even if his play is TECHNICALLY correct, he will be viewed as fucking up the table and playing wrong according to the accepted system. I have seen people get screamed at and called names and even have heard of physical altercations. It's simply the way things are here in Vegas, not necessarily how they should be. Gamblers are the most superstitious lot you have ever met.

[Cool Hand]

I agree, the problem is stupid or inconsistent play on the part of the third base....taking a hit on 16 when the dealer is showing a 6 or something. I know it is not usually a conscious sacrifice, just playing correctly and intelligently. I explained it in the simplest terms however, because the third base will get the cheers or jeers.


To you or me there is no problem with stupid or inconsistent play on the part of the 3rd base player or any other player. It makes no difference to us. The 3rd base play does not affect your play or outcome any more than your play affects any one else's, or any more than burning the cut card does. It makes no sense to hold the 3rd base player responsible for your winning, losing, or pushing.

By the way, the correct play when the dealer is showing a 6 and the player has 16 is to stay, not to hit. It doesn't matter whether the player is at 1st base, 3rd base, or anywhere in between. The odds of the dealer's busting and the player's winning by default are better than the player's getting a hand that will beat the dealer's without busting. The only exception would be with a large negative card count deep into the deck. Most casinos at which I have played tend to eliminate such situations by shuffling somewhere around 2/3 of the way through the shoe. With a single deck, it is common to see the dealer shuffle about 1/2 way through it.

The card count might become significantly positive for one hand or two hands in a single deck game, if you are lucky. If you have more than 2 or 3 players, this will happen very seldom. With a full table at a single deck game, the dealer almost never deals more than one hand without shuffling. The impact of counting thus becomes negligible. The best condition for a card counter is a single player, single deck game in which the dealer deals more than 3/4 of the way through the deck. It is hard to stumble upon such conditions. The best chance for finding them is very late into the night (early morning) at a high stakes table.


Again though, if the third base takes the dealers bust card or whatever, regardless of his system or even if his play is TECHNICALLY correct, he will be viewed as fucking up the table and playing wrong according to the accepted system. I have seen people get screamed at and called names and even have heard of physical altercations. It's simply the way things are here in Vegas, not necessarily how they should be. Gamblers are the most superstitious lot you have ever met.

Do you see players wanting to beat the shit out of the dealer for burning the cut card or for placing it in a random spot 2/3 of the way into the shoe? What's the difference in doing that and taking a hit or not at 3rd base? None. It's not technical or non-technical. It's immaterial. Period.

Gamblers as a whole may be superstitious, but the whole 3rd base player bust card thing is completely groundless. Blackjack, unlike any other casino game, can momentarily give a very slight advantage to the player over the house. In order to take advantage of those moments, however, the player must know and employ correct basic strategy and also must vary his bets according to the card count. A smart player plays strictly according to the odds, not according to groundless superstition. If you study blackjack play and learn about the odds with any given hand and with any given dealer up card, you will understand that the other players' play of their own hands does not affect your play one bit. Your play should not vary at all depending on theirs, regardless of whether there are no other players at your table, or 6 others.

That's my point. It has nothing to do with technical play versus accepted play, whatever that happens to be. It has to do with odds, nothing more and nothing less. Odds are based on statistics, not on some mystical feelings superstitious players have. Thus, there is in fact a "correct" play from the perspective of playing the best odds for any given hand against any given dealer up card. The 3rd base bust card bullshit is just that--bullshit.

Cool Hand

[Ymir's blood]

Oh, they only have to open their mouths to verify they aren't Florida natives.Funny thing about us natives is that we often do not have country accents, especially if we live in urban areas. There is most likely still a bid difference between a 'citified' Floridian and a Northerner's accent.My accent, which I can force myself not to use, has really only bloomed since moving out here into hickville.My accent changes depending on to whom I am speaking.[quote]

Some Southern-speak:

Fix - prepare "fixing breakfast"
Cut on (or off) - Switch on (off) "Cut off the lights"

[livius drusus]

So livius, any of this sparking your interest enough to start using regularly?

So far my most likely candidates are nerfed, slithered, double down and dickstrum (:giggle:). I have no idea if they'll actually end up in my lexicon, though. One thing about slang is that it takes some repetition to embed itself firmly.

[wei yau]

I dare to be different (or stupid).

I make up my own slang. I use it all the time and assume that people know what I'm talking about.

goofalotamus: That's my stomach, especially when it's full or ache-y.

like 25: That's a number greater than one, but less than infinite.

Death of Phoenix: That's the number 137, as in "X-Men #137" featuring the "Death of Phoenix"

cruvvy: anything that's dirty or gross, ranging from spoiled food to athlete's foot

[LadyShea]

By the way, the correct play when the dealer is showing a 6 and the player has 16 is to stay, not to hit.

That's what I said, if the third base plays stupidly, and hits a 16 against a 6, they have a chance of taking the dealers bust card. If everyone else at the table has played "correctly" by staying on 12-16, then third base takes the dealers bust card, then the dealer DOESN'T bust and everyone loses, people get pissed.

Yep Cool hand, it is bullshit. But again, right, wrong, or indifferent, that is how things are. If you come to Vegas, and you play third base, you play according to widely accepted third base play unless you want to get your ass kicked, get yelled at, or get called a stupid motherfucker.

[wade-w]

To continue this derailment, this phenomenon is not limited to Vegas. You see it anywhere that has blackjack. It's one reason I only play poker when I go to a casino. Another is that it's the only game I am aware of where you are not playing against the house.

[Cool Hand]

That's what I said, if the third base plays stupidly, and hits a 16 against a 6, they have a chance of taking the dealers bust card. If everyone else at the table has played "correctly" by staying on 12-16, then third base takes the dealers bust card, then the dealer DOESN'T bust and everyone loses, people get pissed.


Sorry. I misread you. I suppose you realize it still doesn't make a bit of difference to the outcome. The third base player who plays incorrectly could just as easily end up taking a 3 that would have gone to the dealer. What about the player just to the left of 1st base? What if he had done that instead of the 3rd base player? Wouldn't the result be exactly the same? There is no special significance attached to the 3rd base seat, although I have seen the same superstition you describe in action.

I'm not the least bit afraid of anyone at the table. There are dealers, pit bosses, floor managers, and all sorts of other officials to get rid of players who might threaten other players. Anyone who threatens me will very quickly take a walk courtesy of the casino. It's bad business to allow your customers to be threatened or intimidated.

To continue this derailment, this phenomenon is not limited to Vegas. You see it anywhere that has blackjack. It's one reason I only play poker when I go to a casino. Another is that it's the only game I am aware of where you are not playing against the house.

My purely anecdotal experience is that the superstitions abound at tables with limits of $2, $5, and $10. At $25 and above, you generally find more experienced players and those who have some understanding of basic strategy. They tend to understand that each player's play is independent of all that of the others. I have never encountered anyone who got angry over my play at a $25 table, but then I play correct basic strategy and I don't drink when I play. I have left tables with "bad" players, but it was because they were loud or distracting, not because I thought they were screwing up the hands. I know better than that.

As to the possibility of getting the shit kicked out of me, see above. I've never seen anything resembling even a loud angry outburst at a casino. There is simply far too much security for anything to get out of hand for more than a second or two.

Cool Hand

[wade-w]

To continue this derailment, this phenomenon is not limited to Vegas. You see it anywhere that has blackjack. It's one reason I only play poker when I go to a casino. Another is that it's the only game I am aware of where you are not playing against the house.

My purely anecdotal experience is that the superstitions abound at tables with limits of $2, $5, and $10. At $25 and above, you generally find more experienced players and those who have some understanding of basic strategy. They tend to understand that each player's play is independent of all that of the others. I have never encountered anyone who got angry over my play at a $25 table, but then I play correct basic strategy and I don't drink when I play. I have left tables with "bad" players, but it was because they were loud or distracting, not because I thought they were screwing up the hands. I know better than that.

Cool Hand, I agree with everything you've said. I'm just stating my own preferences. I'm sure that you get a much larger percentage of better informed players at the $25 tables. But if I'm playing at a $25 table, you can bet it's going to be a poker game of some sort. One, because I'm much more familiar with poker, two, there's a much larger potential profit per hand with poker, and three, as I said above, with poker you are never playing against the house.

I go to a casino to have fun. I don't consider people at the table bitching about my play fun. So whether they are justified in their opinions or not, or get loud and obnoxious about it or not, is not really important. I'll pass on the experience if possible. At a poker table, at least I can have the satisfaction of taking their money!


As to the possibility of getting the shit kicked out of me, see above. I've never seen anything resembling even a loud angry outburst at a casino. There is simply far too much security for anything to get out of hand for more than a second or two.

Cool Hand

That's not something that's ever concerned me.

[LadyShea]

I go to a casino to have fun. I don't consider people at the table bitching about my play fun. So whether they are justified in their opinions or not, or get loud and obnoxious about it or not, is not really important.

Exactly, playing BlackJack is entertainment for us, where people elsewhere might go to a movie or something, we often go to a Casino. Tourists also seem highly uncomfortable getting dirty looks and/or bitched at. Really, most people are just here on vacation, sit down at a table, and play for 21 regardless of what the dealer shows. They have no idea what strategy or correct play is. My cousin insists on playing third base every time he is in town, and he doesn't know how to play the game AT ALL, hitting on "hunches" and doubling down strangely....I have seen the hostility he gets. Hell, the other night I saw a guy split a pair of Jacks against the dealer's 8 up card. People are stupid.

Anyway, the slang comes from that.


As to the possibility of getting the shit kicked out of me, see above. I've never seen anything resembling even a loud angry outburst at a casino. There is simply far too much security for anything to get out of hand for more than a second or two.

Cool Hand



Doesn't happen often, is quelled right away of course, but it does happen...especially on big weekends like when a fight is in town, or New Year's or something.