Best Scifi Movies

[beyelzu]

Gattaca is of course the correct answer, but I will entertain other possibilities


Post your favorites here.

and if anyone says star wars or return of the jedi, I will be forced to kill you.


on the other hand,

empire strikes back is acceptable.

[wildernesse]

I love Gattaca. Really and truly.

But I also liked 13th Floor, which somehow I got to see in a theater where it appeared for about, uh, 48 hours.

Even if I am married to a sci-fi addict, I don't think I've seen very much sci-fi.

[JoeP]

Forbidden Planet. No contest.

Second place ... hmm ... Bladerunner? Alien (I)? 2001?

Although you did say scifi. My candidates are sf.

[pzmyers]

Bladerunner.

2001.

Forbidden Planet.

Donnie Darko.

The Day the Earth Stood Still.

Lord of the Rings (not really SF, I know...)

[beyelzu]

Bladerunner.

2001.

Forbidden Planet.

Donnie Darko.

The Day the Earth Stood Still.

Lord of the Rings (not really SF, I know...)
I liked donnie darko,


but is it really sf?

[Adora]

Pfff, I know not of this "SciFi" thing of which you speak.

My favourite SF movies are probably... um.... hmmm. Probably Aliens, or Alien Ressurrection. Ghost in the Shell comes in somewhere at the top as well. The Matrix and The Cube I love. Gattacca I could take or leave since it really didn't do much for me. I liked RotJ, even with the ewoks. :p Aesthetically, I love Pitch Black. Galaxy Quest is bloody brilliant. And I'll just finish with the Cowboy Bebop movie, cos everyone knows it's badass.

[wildernesse]

Um, if we all are talking about the same thing, does it really matter if it's sf, or scifi?

[livius drusus]

Galaxy Quest is terminally underrated. I'd put it far above 2001 without hesitation. I also love Bladerunner, Wrath of Khan, Tron (yes, that's right; try it on shrooms sometime if you don't believe me), and most importantly, Robocop.

[Ymir's blood]

Hmm.

I like a lot of stuff, for many different reasons. I don't know of a good consistent definiton for science fiction, but for the sake of this list will exclude Kaiju films, 'Le Bad Cinema' and camp.

The original Star Wars trilogy
Star Trek 2&4
Blade Runner
Escape from New York (to a lesser degree, LA)
This Island Earth
The War of the Worlds

There are probably lots more that I can't think of right now.

:tomservo: :crow:

[Dingfod]

Battlefield Earth


/me runs and hides

[SharonDee]

Battlefield Earth
:slapface:

[beyelzu]

Battlefield Earth


* warrenly runs and hides


please,

tell me your kidding
:whup: :whup:


and when I say please, I mean or else.


seriously, battlefield earth,

what the fuck??

[Dingfod]

Now that was fun. You didn't really think I was serious, did you? If so... PSYCH!


My favorite sci-fi fillums of all time:
Space Hunter, Adventures in the Forbidden Zone
Tremors
Short Circuit
Damnation Alley
Armageddon
Star Wars IV: Phantom Menace

[Megatron]

Fuckin' Robocop... :gatlin:

[JoeP]

Pfff, I know not of this "SciFi" thing of which you speak.

My favourite SF movies
Thank you Adora

Galaxy Quest is bloody brilliant.Yes (forgot that one)

[livius drusus]

Fuckin' Robocop... :gatlin:

Hey, fuck you, buddy. :angrynana: That shit was genius from beginning to end. Prophetic too.

[Beth]

I would say the Stars Wars trilogy.

[Cool Hand]

Galaxy Quest is terminally underrated. I'd put it far above 2001 without hesitation.


Blasphemy!!!

Never, ever detract from Stanley Kubrick's many masterpieces, especially his most visionary one. 2001 is the SF film.

Star Wars belongs on any list of great SF films because it was so forward looking visually, and because it revelled in its unapologetic glee. Although the acting is mediocre at best, except for that done by Sir Alec Guiness, the story is good and the images on screen are simply compelling, even today (I'll try to forget that Lucas nearly ruined the SE with those pathetic GCI effects--why? why?). It opened the door for the deluge of SF films that followed it. Without Star Wars, there might not have been any of the following films that also belong on the list, in my opinion.

Alien, Bladerunner, Robocop, The Terminator, and T2.

I would almost place Star Trek: First Contact on the list because it's my favorite Star Trek movie. I do not believe it belongs in the same class with the films above, however.

If we broaden the definition of SF a bit, I would add another Kubrick classic, A Clockwork Orange, and also Terry Gilliam's brilliant Twelve Monkeys.

AI could have been great, but after Kubrick died I think Spielberg put too much of himself into it and let his own vision overtake Stanley's. Of course, I'm merely speculating, as I understand that Kubrick had worked on the project for about 12 years. He had most of it already done on storyboards, and he and Spielberg kept in close contact about it for years by phone and fax, but also by Spielberg's flying to visit Kubrick at his house in London at least once. Nevertheless, the ending seems so Spielbergesque that I shudder at its schmaltz. If only the film had ended with David's being left at the bottom of the harbor forever it would have been much more poignant and less tidy.


I also love Bladerunner, Wrath of Khan, Tron (yes, that's right; try it on shrooms sometime if you don't believe me), and most importantly, Robocop.


I certainly agree with you about Bladerunner and Robocop (see above). I just don't get why anyone could possibly like Tron, except just as camp. I saw Tron during its initial theatrical release and haven't seen it since. I hope I never see it again. I understand the camp factor for those who may not have caught it during its first run, but it was not intended to be campy. It is just a terrible and unintentionally funny movie, period.

Cool Hand

[edited to add: Oops. I can't believe I forgot The Matrix. It is a terrific film that deserves its rightful place among SF greats. Forget the sequels. The original is one great movie.]

[wei yau]

Fuckin' Robocop... :gatlin:

Hey, fuck you, buddy. :angrynana: That shit was genius from beginning to end. Prophetic too.

Damn skippy, liv! Robocop was the shit. Nevermind the godawful sequels, the first film was damn near perfect.

:robocop:

[Farren]

Gattaca was decent but it wasn't fit to lick the boots of Blade Runner, which was the best science fiction movie. Ever. Anyone who says otherwise needs urgent attention from the psychiatric profession.

Unless, of course, they claim that the movie release of Oliver Stone's miniseries Wild Palms was better, in which case they'd be only slightly off. Other than that

Dark City
Strange Days
Brazil
Until The End of the World (curiously enough Strange Days was a rip off of this Wim Wenders classic in the same way that City of Angels was a commercialised rip-off of his Wings of Desire, except Strange Days was brilliant in its own right)
Star Wars I & II
Twelve Monkeys

In the not-quite-brilliant-but-damn-fine category:
The Thirteenth Floor (much better than Matrix. So much more elegant, thoughtful and understated and none of the self-conscious posing.)
Existenz
The Fly (I just dig Cronenberg)
Total Recall
Vanilla Sky
Alien
2001 (Good, but overrated)
Gattaca (Too clinical to be brilliant)
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
Minority Report
I, Robot (Thank God it didn't follow Asimov too faithfully)

Sci Fi movies that suck donkey balls:
All of the Star Trek movies. Shoddy and low-budget-looking with crappy dialog.
All of the Star Wars movies after Return of the Jedi. George Lucas is a sellout and a complete bastard for making them. He shouldn't have gotten involved in the scripting either. I think he has Anne Rice Syndrome.
Robocop (you people are nuts)
Battlefield Earth (AAARRRRGH! AAAAYEEEEEEE! AAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKK! *throws up and passes out*)

[Megatron]

Fuckin' Robocop... :gatlin:

Hey, fuck you, buddy. :angrynana: That shit was genius from beginning to end. Prophetic too.
Ehh, hence why it's my favorite SF movie. :angrynana:

Nobody and I mean NOBODY kicked more ass. :whup: :fuming: :P

[Dingfod]

Now that was fun. You didn't really think I was serious, did you? If so... PSYCH!


My favorite sci-fi fillums of all time:
Space Hunter, Adventures in the Forbidden Zone
Tremors
Short Circuit
Damnation Alley
Armageddon
Star Wars IV: Phantom MenaceWhat? Nobody has a problem with my choices? Damn, all that effort went into picking the most godawful sci-fi flics I could think of and nothing, nothing. *crickets chirping*

[Dingfod]

Robocop rules.

Your move creep.

[wei yau]

Your move creep.

Dead or alive, you're coming with me.

[Cool Hand]

Farren,

I think you're right. I hadn't thought of placing Brazil in the SF category. If it does belong there, then clearly it belongs on any list of top SF films. I'm not convinced that it is SF versus fantasy, but I'm willing to call it SF for this discussion.

You're wrong about Robocop and Star Trek: First Contract, however.

(insert some smartass smilie here; I don't like using them)

Cool Hand

[Adora]

Oh, I forgot Dark City. Go Aussie movies! I just can't say no to a movie where Melissa George is a dead hooker (for the record, Alias= love).

[livius drusus]

Galaxy Quest is terminally underrated. I'd put it far above 2001 without hesitation.


Blasphemy!!!

Never, ever detract from Stanley Kubrick's many masterpieces, especially his most visionary one. 2001 is the SF film.

You don't own me. I don't see any ring on this finger. Oh wait. That's the wrong finger. :giggle:

I would almost place Star Trek: First Contact on the list because it's my favorite Star Trek movie. I do not believe it belongs in the same class with the films above, however.


ST:FC was my favorite too until I got the special edition WoK DVD. Some of those shots of the Enterprise are just crazy pretty. (As is Montalban's chest.)

If we broaden the definition of SF a bit, I would add another Kubrick classic, A Clockwork Orange, and also Terry Gilliam's brilliant Twelve Monkeys.

Definitely with you on both of those. I had forgotten how much I loved Twelve Monkeys until you reminded me. It's past time I snagged that on DVD.

I certainly agree with you about Bladerunner and Robocop (see above). I just don't get why anyone could possibly like Tron, except just as camp. I saw Tron during its initial theatrical release and haven't seen it since. I hope I never see it again. I understand the camp factor for those who may not have caught it during its first run, but it was not intended to be campy. It is just a terrible and unintentionally funny movie, period.

What can I say? I'm a sucker for cheesy dialogue, shoddy plots and brilliantly colored visuals. That's why Suspiria is my favorite horror movie of all time.

[wei yau]

ST:FC was my favorite too until I got the special edition WoK DVD. Some of those shots of the Enterprise are just crazy pretty. (As is Montalban's chest.)


First Contact was a so-so favorite of mine, it ended up moving up several notches simply because the remaining Next Gen movies were crap. Big loads of steaming crap.

As for Mr. Rourke's chest, it's all foam-rubber. About as real as those crazy pretty shots of the Enterprise.

[livius drusus]

Nuh uh, baby. Those puppies are real. The commentary track says so. :lalala:

[Cool Hand]

Galaxy Quest is terminally underrated. I'd put it far above 2001 without hesitation.


Blasphemy!!!

Never, ever detract from Stanley Kubrick's many masterpieces, especially his most visionary one. 2001 is the SF film.

You don't own me. I don't see any ring on this finger. Oh wait. That's the wrong finger. :giggle:


You're not the boss of me now, you're not the boss of me now, you're not the boss of me now, and you're not so big. Life is unfair.

Well, for the purposes of this discussion, I hereby declare my opinions to be superior to yours. There.

Stanley was the master. He was the best filmmaker of all time, better even than Orson Welles. 2001 is brilliant and a masterpiece. It was made from 1965 through early 1968, and released that year. That its message is still relevant today, and its sets, models, and special effects still look beautiful and convincing today, is a great testament to Kubrick's eye for detail, his tremendous skill, and his legendary perfectionism. Plus, you have to give the guy a lot of credit for being scientifically accurate and not inserting cool sound effects into the spaceships moving through space sequences. His external shots have no sound other than the classical music soundtrack.

Defame Stanley again and I will be there to defend him. (I used to belong to a usenet newsgroup that his daughter Katarina frequented. I had a few discussions with her about him. It was cool.)


ST:FC was my favorite too until I got the special edition WoK DVD. Some of those shots of the Enterprise are just crazy pretty. (As is Montalban's chest.)


You can have Mr. Monalban's chest, and his rich Corinthian leather too. I agree with you that it was in fact his actual chest. It was impressive, especially at his age.


Definitely with you on both of those. I had forgotten how much I loved Twelve Monkeys until you reminded me. It's past time I snagged that on DVD.


Definitely past time. It is an essential part of any serious DVD collection for those who appreciate films beyond standard product right out of Making a Hollywood Studio Blockbuster 101, taught by Jerry Bruckheimer himself. Anytime you are in the mood for a great mindfuck, Twelve Monkeys is up to the task. I think it's the most intelligent and stylish time travel movie ever made. I've seen it probably about 12 times. I never get bored with it.


What can I say? I'm a sucker for cheesy dialogue, shoddy plots and brilliantly colored visuals. That's why Suspiria is my favorite horror movie of all time.

I don't know Suspiria, but Tron just plain sucks. My opinion is superior to yours once again, weakling.

Cool Hand

[livius drusus]

You're not the boss of me now, you're not the boss of me now, you're not the boss of me now, and you're not so big. Life is unfair.

Well, for the purposes of this discussion, I hereby declare my opinions to be superior to yours. There.

Ex cathedra infallibility doesn't impress me, young man. I've seen the smoke over the vatican turn from black to white twice already. What's once more?

Stanley was the master. He was the best filmmaker of all time, better even than Orson Welles. 2001 is brilliant and a masterpiece. It was made from 1965 through early 1968, and released that year. That its message is still relevant today, and its sets, models, and special effects still look beautiful and convincing today, is a great testament to Kubrick's eye for detail, his tremendous skill, and his legendary perfectionism. Plus, you have to give the guy a lot of credit for being scientifically accurate and not inserting cool sound effects into the spaceships moving through space sequences. His external shots have no sound other than the classical music soundtrack.

Uh huh. Damn shame it's stultifyingly boring. Second only to Titanic in its total, utter, mind-numbing boredom, in fact.


Defame Stanley again and I will be there to defend him.

I've got nothing against the man himself and his undeniable talent. There are many other movies of his I have much love for, but 2001 is shit on a shingle and no amount of praise-singing from the science geek choir is going to change that basic fact. Threats won't work either, just fyi.

(I used to belong to a usenet newsgroup that his daughter Katarina frequented. I had a few discussions with her about him. It was cool.)

(That is way cool.)


You can have Mr. Monalban's chest, and his rich Corinthian leather too. I agree with you that it was in fact his actual chest. It was impressive, especially at his age.

I know, really! I don't even think it was that good in Space Seed 20 years earlier.

I think it's the most intelligent and stylish time travel movie ever made. I've seen it probably about 12 times. I never get bored with it.

We're of one mind on this issue at least. Now, have you actually seen it 12 times or is that the monkeys talking?


I don't know Suspiria, but Tron just plain sucks. My opinion is superior to yours once again, weakling.

If you like gobs of blood, insanely stylized sets, cheesecake chicks in boarding school scenes, outlandishly over the top deaths and Eurotrash electronica music so scary you can't even believe how hard your heart is beating, rent Suspiria.

Oh and you don't scare me. I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool. (Thank you, Phil Hartman.)

[Roygbiv]

Pfff, I know not of this "SciFi" thing of which you speak.

My favourite SF movies are probably... um.... hmmm. Probably Aliens, or Alien Ressurrection.

Holy crap, I can't believe someone else brought up Alien Resurrection. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed that movie, if only for the fact that the "WTF?" quotient was, at times, off the scale.

Personally, I wouldn't necessarily claim it as one of sci-fi's best, but I also think it deserves a lot more praise than it generally gets.

Resurrection is a pretty interesting companion piece with Jeunet's other works. I think I happened to see it within a week of seeing City of Lost Children (which, by the way, is one of my all-time favorite sci-fi flicks). I guess if you knew where to look for it, you could see that Jeunet sensibility all over the map in Alien Resurrection.

For example, in Alien Resurrection... I LOVED when the camera goes down that one guy's THROAT! And the fact that the climax is basically a giant abortion in space. And Brad Dourif in a cocoon. And the mother/father issues running rampant throughout the whole picture. What a great fucking movie.

[Roygbiv]

Oh yeah, and Robocop is the bomb. It's as if they predicted the future and made fun of it. The opening scene alone, with the demonstration gone awry, is just fucking hilarious.

I already mentioned City of Lost Children. It's probably a very acquired taste; I suspect people will love it and hate it in equal numbers. Personally, I really enjoyed the hell out of it. It's certainly one of the most unique movies I've ever seen. I mean, you really can't go wrong with Jean-Pierre Jeunet directing and Angelo Badalamenti writing your soundtrack.

[livius drusus]

Psst!

We've got spoiler tags here. (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode#spoiler) :)

[Roygbiv]

Psst!

We've got spoiler tags here. (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode#spoiler) :)

Oh my god, this place is so newfangled. Let me go edit.

[Megatron]

Robocop was the shit. Nevermind the godawful sequels, the first film was damn near perfect.

:robocop:
I even liked the sequels, even though they were nowhere near as good as the original. :popcorn:

[wei yau]

I even liked the sequels, even though they were nowhere near as good as the original. :popcorn:

Robocop 2 wasn't half bad. I didn't care for Robocop 3 at all.

The Robocop sequel experience completely soured Frank Miller on Hollywood. He's not the greatest screenplay writer ever, as his original screenplay for Robocop 2 wasn't *that* good. But, he's responsible for some very influential comics books.

I'm glad that he's working with Robert Rodriguez on "Sin City". That looks to be one helluva movie.

:popcorn2:

[beyelzu]

I even liked the sequels, even though they were nowhere near as good as the original. :popcorn:

Robocop 2 wasn't half bad. I didn't care for Robocop 3 at all.

The Robocop sequel experience completely soured Frank Miller on Hollywood. He's not the greatest screenplay writer ever, as his original screenplay for Robocop 2 wasn't *that* good. But, he's responsible for some very influential comics books.

I'm glad that he's working with Robert Rodriguez on "Sin City". That looks to be one helluva movie.

:popcorn2:
yes sin city will be my favorite movie of all time when it comes out, I think.


by the way, have you seen the trailer that was shown at the san diego comc con? it is very badass.

[wei yau]

yes sin city will be my favorite movie of all time when it comes out, I think.


by the way, have you seen the trailer that was shown at the san diego comc con? it is very badass.

Unfortunately, I have not seen the trailer. The only high-speed connection I have is at work...but, no sound.

I've seen a couple of stills and the art design looks incredible.

[beyelzu]

yes sin city will be my favorite movie of all time when it comes out, I think.


by the way, have you seen the trailer that was shown at the san diego comc con? it is very badass.

Unfortunately, I have not seen the trailer. The only high-speed connection I have is at work...but, no sound.

I've seen a couple of stills and the art design looks incredible.
well that sucks,

the trailer is about 50 meg in mp4 format, let me know if you want me to send it to you over aim sometime, it would probably take awhile

[viscousmemories]

My first and top choice would be Bladerunner, but Terminator and Matrix are up there.

I loved A Clockwork Orange, Brazil and Donnie Darko too, but are they SciFi or fantasy? :?

[Farren]

I think Brazil is clearly sci-fi, because it deals with a dystopian future, however bizarrely.

Everyone keeps bringing up Donnie Darko. I have to see that movie.

p.s. Has anyone else seen the movie Wild Palms? I notice it's not on anyones list. I know someone else mentioned it, a long time ago, on a thread far, far away. Its utterly brilliant.

[The Lone Ranger]

The Robocop sequel experience completely soured Frank Miller on Hollywood. He's not the greatest screenplay writer ever, as his original screenplay for Robocop 2 wasn't *that* good. But, he's responsible for some very influential comics books.


Oh what I wouldn't give to see a good adaptation of Batman: The Dark Knight Returns on the big screen!


On the other hand, wild horses wouldn't be able to drag me to see Dark Knight II on the big screen. What was Miller thinking? The original Dark Knight Returns was dang-near perfect! The sequel . . . wasn't.



Cheers,

Michael

[Aurora Elegance]

I've got nothing against the man himself and his undeniable talent. There are many other movies of his I have much love for, but 2001 is shit on a shingle and no amount of praise-singing from the science geek choir is going to change that basic fact. Threats won't work either, just fyi.

You mean opinion. :yup:

[xorbie]

Welcome to FF, Aurora. :welcome:

[livius drusus]

I've got nothing against the man himself and his undeniable talent. There are many other movies of his I have much love for, but 2001 is shit on a shingle and no amount of praise-singing from the science geek choir is going to change that basic fact. Threats won't work either, just fyi.

You mean opinion. :yup:

Are you suggesting my opinions aren't facts? Why ah nevah... :giggle:

[Johnny Pneumatic]

What?! No one has mentioned Jurassic Park? Then I will.
I would have The Matrix on my favorite movie list if it didn't have all that talk about fate, complety not understand entropy. You can't use humans as a power source without the humans needing much more energy to fuel them than you get out of them and the characters spitting blood when they die a neurological death.

[WinAce]

Jason X (http://efilmcritic.com/review.php?movie=4747&reviewer=128)

After some slick opening credits, we have a bloody prologue in which a platoon of soldiers is messily dispatched by our favorite boogeyman. After a brief chase, Jason and one of his potential victims are trapped in a bio-chamber and placed in suspended animation.

We flash forward to the distant future, where a massive surveying ship is visiting the decrepit old Earth. A few explorers discover the cryogenically frozen 'corpse' and his quarry. The two newcomers promptly thaw out about the massive spaceship, and the chase is on. Jason has a grand old time slashing his way through youthful scientists, gung-ho soldiers, and officious supervisors. There are a few minor surprises for the fans along the way, the gore is delivered in enjoyably sloppy fashion, and there's an extended Battle Royale between Jason and an alluring female cyborg.

There's a great movie to see with Jessica. And no, I didn't make it up.

[One for Sorrow]

Jason X?!! Geez, what did I ever do to you? Er...wait. Well, that discussion is probably best suited for another forum. :innocent:

[Dingfod]

Has anyone mentioned Contact (http://www.movieactors.com/ScienceFiction/al62.htm)?

[Dingfod]

Was 1984 (http://www.movieactors.com/ScienceFiction/f1.htm) any good? I never did see it. I think my video rental store still has it.

[Dingfod]

Time Bandits (http://www.movieactors.com/ScienceFiction/t36.htm)

[livius drusus]

I didn't much like Contact. :shrug:

[Dingfod]

I didn't much like Contact. :shrug:Might I ask why?

[livius drusus]

You might indeed. I found it dragged somewhat, the philosophical disquisitions of a sober Matthew McConaughey less than compelling, and the denoument flat.

[Dingfod]

OK, I'll admit the movie dragged a bit and had bad science galore. So?

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What do you want with a light-saber, little boy, you'll put your eye out.--Sandak Laz, in Star Wars I-1/2: A X-Mass Starry (coming to a theater near you this X-mas)

[The Lone Ranger]

I found some things about Contact rather annoying.

1.) Had I been Ellie, I'd have been really pissed that after I'd gone through all that, the aliens had deliberately arranged things such that I had no proof whatsoever that any of it had taken place. What kind of sick game are they playing with the human race? Why can't they allow more than one visitor?

2.) Ellie's inability to prove that she had loved her father (when, in fact, she could have easily provided enough evidence to convince any reasonable skeptic) was somehow justification for that smug preacher's belief in God? That's just plain insulting!

3.) The not-at-all-subtle implication that -- ultimately -- science is just as much a matter of "faith" as is religion. Again, I thought that was just plain insulting, and that whirring sound you heard was probably Sagan spinning in his grave.

4.) Dangit! If I travel dozens of light years to meet aliens, I want to meet aliens, not dear old Dad! And dangit, I want a message from them to take back to my people that's just a little bit more profound than something you might find on a Hallmark card.


Cheers,

Michael

[Dingfod]

OK, I'll admit the movie dragged a bit and had bad science galore. So?

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What do you want with a light-saber, little boy, you'll put your eye out.--Sandak Laz, in Star Wars I-1/2: A X-Mass Starry (coming to a theater near you this X-mas)I don't remember writing this. Hmmm? Fucking drugs.

[WinAce]

Jason X?!! Geez, what did I ever do to you?

Everything you did was great, so that's not the reason I'd make you watch it. :D

[Darren]

Bladerunner tops my list - the "sympathy with the monster" theme is what really makes it, especially with the excellent twist at the end of the directors cut. Solaris is another excellent sci-fi movie - slow moving but thoughtful and even poetic. Brazil is also high on my list. Donnie Darko is good too (the soundtrack really helps it along).
At the very bottom comes that most loathsome of films Independence Day. Sick bags should be issued for every viewing session. I love Mars Attacks precisely because it takes off Independence Day so brilliantly.

[livius drusus]

"We still have 2 out of 3 branches of government working for us, and that ain't bad" was my original description of the Admin forum here. :D

[HarryLime]

"We still have 2 out of 3 branches of government working for us, and that ain't bad" was my original description of the Admin forum here. :D

Mars Attacks was fun. I really can't see why Burton fanboys seem to hold it in such low regard. It's not an Edward Scissorhands or an Ed Wood, but I had a great time with that flick.

As far as the nods for Brazil thus far, I love Brazil. I've posted about how much I love Brazil. But it's not sci-fi. It really has nothing to do with science. But it's a great black comedy.

Will

[Dingfod]

Ack-Ack

[Ymir's blood]

Mars Attacks was fun for the goofy weirdness. It was meant to be bad and succeeded in the most wonderful way.

[Godfather]

Brazil is a fiction based on an imaginary future world, portraying scientific or technological changes, and is therefore definitely science fiction. Obviously it's also more than that, but nothing is ever simple, is it? I love Brazil. I made all my friends in high school watch it, and I just bought the DVD box set.

I also would like to add the Back to the Future trilogy - yes, even the third one - and Planet of the Apes (the original, not the remake.) I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of any right now.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

I Robot. Hey I really liked it, except for the part where Will Smith says "Well there was this one dude a long time ago"(refering to the fiction of a water walking Jesus as being true) Other than that a wonderful movie; highly recommend it.

[Dingfod]

I ran across this site (http://marylaine.com/bookbyte/fantasy.html) on a link from fark.com. I found it interesting, although I haven't had time yet to read it all.