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livius drusus
05-03-2006, 08:07 PM
It's an ancient Roman villa (http://ansa.it/main/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2006-05-02_1024086.html) with all the trimmings, felicitously located right outside of Florance, and one of the largest working farms found.

"Villas like these were fully fledged factories for the production of wine, olive oil, meat, corn and other products," said archaeologist Fausto Berti, who led the dig at Montelupo Fiorentino .

"We've found big animal pens, warehouses and even a workshop for making ceramic vases. The owners were self-sufficient" .

Berti reckons the villa and farm - which covers 2,000 square metres - must have had its own teams of craftsmen and a small army of slaves .

"In this particular villa, I'd say there must have been at least 70 slaves" .

The 500-metre-square villa is well-preserved and shows the high architectural standards patricians liked for their country homes, reminding them of their luxury town houses: large and elegant rooms, spacious gardens and a long (52m) portico .

It also has fully equipped baths with all the areas Romans used to produce various levels of heat, warm water and steam - and then turn down the temperature .

Judging from the picture alone, this is the best preserved villa I've ever seen, and by a lot, too:

http://www.freethought-forum.com/livius/villa.jpg

Leesifer
05-03-2006, 08:18 PM
The Montelupo villa is open at weekends.

:wriggle:

You never know. It's not too far for us to travel.

livius drusus
05-03-2006, 08:22 PM
You lucky hosebeast! If you go, you'd better take assiduous notes and piccies or I shall hoot at you forever.

Leesifer
05-03-2006, 08:25 PM
I've only ever been round various British ancient remains and it's about time I ventured into the European remains.

It is definintely on my list, along with a visit to Egypt. :yup:

Hoot!

MonCapitan2002
05-04-2006, 05:53 AM
Isn't Britain part of Europe?

Zehava
05-04-2006, 05:28 PM
"Villas like these were fully fledged factories for the production of wine, olive oil, meat, corn and other products," said archaeologist Fausto Berti, who led the dig at Montelupo Fiorentino.

You know the bolded part bothered me for a second. I saw it here in this article, and several other places (including biblical passages).

Corn, I'm thinking maize here, is a new world crop. I kept wondering how the hell these ancient peoples were getting corn prior to contact with the Americas.

Then some quick searching today and they are simply using corn as a generic term for common cereal grains, likley wheat or barley in this case. Now I know what they are talking about, but it still doesn't sit right. :wink:

Dingfod
05-04-2006, 05:58 PM
They may be refering to barleycorn.

livius drusus
05-04-2006, 07:05 PM
It might be a vaguary of translation as well. If the professor was speaking Italian, I seriously doubt he said corn (mais). If he was speaking English and that's a direct quote, I would chalk it up to a connotational misunderstanding.

Dingfod
05-04-2006, 08:42 PM
You are.

livius drusus
05-04-2006, 08:49 PM
I need a hoot smiley really, really badly.

Leesifer
05-05-2006, 12:27 AM
Isn't Britain part of Europe?

Nevah!