MAFIA Peanut Gallery

[Spenser]

This is a thread where players and non-players can chit chat about the game but no actual game play is to take place here.

Game Thread here (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9084)

[livius drusus]

Claro. Are you going to start a fresh thread for the game itself, or just use bey's?

ETA: I see I spoke too soon. :blush2:

[Smilin]

What happens if a villager is wrongly accused and killed or tortured?

[Spenser]

They die and are out of the game.


I cut and pasted a lot of this from Mafia threads at IIDB so if I haven't explained enough general rules please let me know.

[livius drusus]

Clearly we need user tags. Let's nag vm when he gets back.

[Spenser]

I saw they didn't work and removed them.

[Crumb]

user tags?

[Smilin]

as in toe tags?

[Spenser]

user tags?

Check out the user names of the players in this first post (http://iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=171994) of our last game of Werewolf.

[Beth]

Dammit, leave Crumbles alone!

[viscousmemories]

Since the Lounge is for registered users only and some of the members here are banned from or not registered at IIDB, it'd probably be better to explain gameplay here.

Besides, I'm lazy and don't feel like logging in there every time a question comes up.

[Spenser]

There is a decent sum up in the game and sign up threads, do you have any particular questions?

[Spenser]

Here it is again:

Wikipedia has a good article on this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolf_%28game%29)

Further, at IIDB we are playing both Mafia and Werewolf. I am assuming this one is played the same as our Mafia version;

12 players, 1 possible cop, 1 possible doc, 1 - 4 Mafia.

At night the cop choose's some one to learn if they are innocent or Mafia

The Doc choose some one to protect from a Mafia kill

The Mafia colaborate to kill some one.

During the day every one talks and votes on who to lynch, the town trying to kill scum (mafia).

No PMs allowed accept by the Mafia at night to decide who to kill, no action in the game thread at night.

How's that for a quick sum up?

[viscousmemories]

Oh no, sorry. That was just a general comment.

[Julie]

There was once a young boy and mother who lived alone. The mother gave the boy a duck and asked him to go to the town market to sell it, so they could buy food for that week. The boy grabbed his duck and made his way down to the market. When he arrived, he passed a tent with a hooker in it. The hooker whispered to the boy, "If you give me that duck, I'll let you have sex with me." The little boy threw the duck into the tent and jumped on top of the hooker. The hooker enjoyed the roll in the hay so much that she offered the boy the duck back if he would go another round with her. The boy agreed, had sex with her again and got the duck back. He then looked at the time and realized that while he was with the woman, the market had closed for the day and that he was going to have to go home without any money for his duck.

He headed home with his duck on the leash down the windy road that leads to his village. Then suddenly, a car came speeding by and hit his duck, sending it into the air, which killed it. The guy stopped his car and feeling bad for the kid, he handed him 15 dollars to replace the duck. The kid then made his way to his house, where his mother asked him about his day. "Well, son," his mother said, "What did you get for the duck?" The boy answered, "I got a fuck for a duck, a duck for a fuck, and 15 bucks for a fucked up duck."

[Legs]

:giggles:

[livius drusus]

He he... Things rhyme with duck. :giggle:

[Adam]

Am I the only one who read liv's post in Homer Simpson's voice?

[livius drusus]

OMG I wrote it in Homer Simpson's voice!

[Spenser]

OMG I've heard Homer Simpson's voice!



ETA: And my current number of posts spell LIV, and I posted under livius, that's it, I'm going to buy a lotto ticket...

[livius drusus]

bey's had a family emergency and won't be able to post again until tomorrow at the earliest. His mom broke her hip and the hospital computer will only let him send PMs, no reading or posting.

I posted this in the game thread originally but then thought it more appropriate here.

Spenser, is there a procedure in place for such eventualities? Like should people contact you privately if they can't participate for legitimate non-tactical reasons? Because it seems to me there's a risk that kind of thing could be interpreted as part of the game and result in a lynching.

[viscousmemories]

Damn, that sucks. I hope your mom is feeling better soon bey.

[Kevlar]

um... I'm just an innocent bystander, merely watching the game for my entertainment. I just have a small suggestion. Lynch somebody, dammit!

[Adam]

That sucks. Sorry to hear that, bey, if you get a chance to read this.

[Crumb]

Yeah bey I hope your mom is ok. I had a recent incident with my dad going to the hospital and it sucks. :manhug:

NC Kev I have seen that the first "day" is often the longest.

[Spenser]

bey's had a family emergency and won't be able to post again until tomorrow at the earliest. His mom broke her hip and the hospital computer will only let him send PMs, no reading or posting.

I posted this in the game thread originally but then thought it more appropriate here.

Spenser, is there a procedure in place for such eventualities? Like should people contact you privately if they can't participate for legitimate non-tactical reasons? Because it seems to me there's a risk that kind of thing could be interpreted as part of the game and result in a lynching.

Yes contacting me is a good idea. We could always find replacements if needed.

[Jacey]

Alright then, who dies........

[Legs]

Why don't we post at night again? and what needs to happen before it is day ?

[Jacey]

Why don't we post at night again?

Cause we're asleep.

and what needs to happen before it is day ?

Mafia, Doc, Cop need to PM spenser their nightly doings. Once spenser receives the PMs he can start day 2.

[Crumb]

Yeah Day 2 will start as soon as Spenser knows what happened during the night he will start the next day. If you are a mafia doc or cop you need to PM him.

[Smilin]

shit and we lynched a townie... :sad:

[wei yau]

Can other players PM each other at night? Also, can any discussion of the game, beyond rule clarifications, allowed in this thread?

I'm guessing the answer is "no" to hese questions.

[TomJoe]

How many of the players have actually had a Mafia member in their family?

/me is guessing none.

[Spenser]

Can other players PM each other at night? Also, can any discussion of the game, beyond rule clarifications, allowed in this thread?

I'm guessing the answer is "no" to hese questions.

No and not really. You can discuss what happened but no accusations or 'playing' really. Of course I cannot moderate this but its up to you folks to respect the rules...

[quiet bear]

Killed.

I couldn't say anything last night without giving away my role, so I kept quiet. I know a few things, but now I'm dead.

[trillian]

Killed.

I couldn't say anything last night without giving away my role, so I kept quiet. I know a few things, but now I'm dead.

But you did not have a special role. Even docs and cops are townies too, until they die or reveal themselves. I had hoped you would come back and tell us what you knew, or thought you knew, or at least had some reasoning that could help the village. I guess you can tell us after the game is over now. Such a waste.

[quiet bear]

Well, townies aren't permitted to pm, correct? I didn't want to go blabbing on the boards.

Next game, hopefully people will not be so quick to cast judgement. Learn to be patient with quiet bear. LOLOL.

[Crumb]

Townies should tell what they think they know in public. They don't have to sneak around. Everyone is pretending to be a townie so whatever you think you have found on someone they will attempt to publicly defend themselves. Townies are the ones who don't have to be sneaky.

[Spenser]

Townies usually die first anyway.

[Jacey]

Having played this before I'm not sure what you could've figured out w/o cheating........so I'm guessing you didn't figure anything out

[quiet bear]

I thought the idea was to play it close to the vest. That's my tendency, anyway. I know of two mafioso, for sure. Too bad I'm dead, though. LOL.

[Spenser]

I know of two mafioso, for sure.

Even I doubt that claim. Unless they have PMed you cause you are dead but feel free to PM me your accusations...


I know you guys are anxious but I can't call day break too fast. I may or may not have all the PMs already but I wait to make sure every one playing has at least been logged in during the night. (Beyelzu is an exception due to family problems, if he is mafia his buddies can decide the kill, if he is cop or doc then I will chose randomly for him, that is unless he logs on before day break) so hang tight.

[beyelzu]

im back, thanks everyone for your kind wishes. my mom is currently undergoing hip replacement. of the emergency variety.

[quiet bear]

I guess I should say I am 'fairly certain' then, that I know who two of the mafioso are.

No, I didn't cheat. I simply observe. Sometimes, people give themselves away without even realizing it.

When it's all over with, I'll say who I suspected, and for what reasons. But for now, the spirit of quiet bear will haunt the threads. LOL.

And I did actually think last night about pming Spencer to ask a few questions, but I wasn't sure if that was permitted.

[quiet bear]

oops. Sorry. I doubled clicked.

[Legs]

I know you guys are anxious

I'm not anxious. :nope:

[Crumb]

I am. :shiftier:

[Smilin]

Sorry we lynched yah Bear. No hard feelings I hope.

[Legs]

Yeah, who's idea was that anyway? :innocent:

[quiet bear]

Nah. It's a game. I'm often the first one dismissed. My demeanor can sometimes be mistaken for being aloof, or smug, when in reality, I'm simply somewhat socially stunted. It has it's benefits, though. I fly under the radar a lot. LOL.

[Crumb]

Someone had to be lynched. Just glad it wasn't me.

[Spenser]

Yeah, then we wouldn't get to see so much cat washing.

[Spenser]

So, is there a thread some where that talks about the history of this forum? I see an awful lot of familiar handles from my time on IIDB...

[livius drusus]

Yeah, then we wouldn't get to see so much cat washing.
Good thing we'll always have beaver.

[livius drusus]

So, is there a thread some where that talks about the history of this forum? I see an awful lot of familiar handles from my time on IIDB...

Here's (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/ffintro.php?do=ffhistory) a little history vm drew up.

[Crumb]

But it doesn't mention my arrival. :sniff:

[viscousmemories]

Here's a little history vm drew up.
Damn that's dry. I really need to re-write it.

[Spenser]

It was brief.

[livius drusus]

I really need to re-write it.
Be sure to add the part about Crumb entering on a leopard-drawn carriage to the accolades of the multitude.

[Crumb]

:yup:

[Spenser]

im back, thanks everyone for your kind wishes. my mom is currently undergoing hip replacement. of the emergency variety.

You back at IIDB too or just checking in? We got Mafia going on there as well and your a player.

[Widget]

I hope Legs is done in soon, it's going to mean she can get to bed earlier.

[Legs]

:fantasy: :larrow: Widget

[Leesifer]

im back, thanks everyone for your kind wishes. my mom is currently undergoing hip replacement. of the emergency variety.

Hope it all went well, bey. I've just voted for you on the original thread because you were too quiet but hadn't read this one. Sorry. Now I know why. :huggle:

[Smilin]

Shit, now I remember what you were referencing lees on the game thread.

Dammit, my memory isn't what it used to be. They say the mind is the second thing to go! :shrug:

[Legs]

It's nightfall on the game thread.

I hope Jacey is lying about being the cop.

[Smilin]

me too Legs, me too.

[Jacey]

I'm not lying. Good job guys.

[viscousmemories]

Me too. :D

[Legs]

If Jacey was really the cop and saw he was getting up to 5 or 6 votes, something should have been said then. Not wait until it's too late and then desperately declare.

[Adam]

Do we find out whether or not he really was the cop once Spenser posts the Day #3 intro, or just whether he was innocent/mafia?

[Jacey]

If Jacey was really the cop and saw he was getting up to 5 or 6 votes, something should have been said then. Not wait until it's too late and then desperately declare.

Gee, I wonder if Jacey maybe slept in late. I wonder if Jacey was hoping the lynch heat would move off of him and he'd survive the night so he'd get another investigation (I don't mind telling that two possibles were Viscous and Smilin). I wonder if Jacey was going to help the town figure out who the mafia is once he got more information. Instead what I got was:

1) OMFG Jacey's suspicious he's experienced and hasn't posted much!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
2) Legs being suspicious of everyone, including Sam Rosenthal and Jimmy Conway, who aren't even playing.
3) Coming out as cop and being suspected of lying (well, liv should say that).

Oh well. Enjoy the wine in front of you.

[Jacey]

Do we find out whether or not he really was the cop once Spenser posts the Day #3 intro, or just whether he was innocent/mafia?

I wonder if spenser will let me write my own obituary.........

[viscousmemories]

If it works like it did at IIDB, Spenser will tell us his role. There's no reason for him to lie about it at this point, though.

[Smilin]

What's the total number of mafia playing?

[viscousmemories]

3 mafia
0-1 doctors
0-1 cops
The rest are innocent townies

[Smilin]

Is there a prostitute? Spencer did mention that was a possibility.

[Smilin]

and do the mafia all know each other?

[Legs]

Yes, there is no reason for Jacey to lie about being the cop now that the vote is final. Unless he is just making us suffer.

Would the Mob know that Jacey was the cop? If Jacey is a cop/townie then Crumb and Smilin are Mafia IMO

[viscousmemories]

Yes, the mafia all know each other. During the night they communicate via PM to decide who to kill, then PM their decision to Spenser. For example the first night they assassinated Random Thoughts. Only Spenser knows who the cop is until the cop outs himself to the group.

[Legs]

I know they know each other, I was just wondering if they know who the cop, doc is. but I see from your answer only Spenser knows that.

When the Mob meets to vote who to whack - they could by chance get the cop or doc.

[Smilin]

hopefully the doctor will save him, if he is indeed the cop.

[Adam]

The doctor can't save him from lynching, I thought, only from the mob?

[viscousmemories]

I know they know each other, I was just wondering if they know who the cop, doc is. but I see from your answer only Spenser knows that.
I knew you knew, or at least I didn't think you didn't know. That part of my response was answering Smilin, who asked if the mafia know each other just before you posted.

That's my understanding too, Adam.

[Jacey]

The doctor can't save him from lynching, I thought, only from the mob?

The doc can protect someone from the mafia at night. No one can protect a lynch victim.

I'm off, I tried, maybe with some experience you'll all learn how to play. I have to predict a mafia victory from here out with more 2 innocents dying before the game begins again.

[Smilin]

well shit.

If you are indeed the cop, I owe you an apology Jacey. My bantering and Cumb's logic is what got you lynched.

[Legs]

Smilin & Crumb :noid:

[Smilin]

Legs,

If Jacey was the cop, liv is definately scum.

That's one down and two to go.

[viscousmemories]

I know the rules only say no posting in the game thread during the night, but as I understand it the reason being that the townsfolk aren't supposed to communicate at all during the night. So I'm not sure we should be using this or any other medium to continue speculating until daybreak.

I'm just guessing though, hopefully Spenser can clarify the rules when he gets back.

[Adam]

I think vm's right, and I apologize for my contributions to the cheatin' goin' on here. I was just looking for rules clarifications.

[Legs]

Oh, sorry. :shutmou:

[Smilin]

whooppsss...

/me shutting up.... :silenced: :quiet: :tiptoe:

[Spenser]

You guys can discuss what happened, but not what is going to happen...

[Leesifer]

Oh dear. Jacey was the cop.

[Legs]

Damn

[Smilin]

jeebus krishna Criste!

we lynched the cop!!!

[Smilin]

If I'm not around (leaving shortly from work)

I might suggest that someone pays attention to who's online here when daylight comes again.

[viscousmemories]

Well I don't think we should feel too bad about lyching Jacey. Crumb's argument was that Jacey wasn't acting like he has in past games where he was an ordinary villager, and sure enough he wasn't an ordinary villager. Unfortunately it just so happens he was a cop, not mafia. I think I probably would've stuck with my vote for him even if he had presented his defense in time.

[Smilin]

I was approaching with the logic that since him and spenser were friends, that he would have been Maria. Seems he was made the cop instead.

Dammiittt!

At least we know the liv DEFINATELY is mafia!!! :muahaha:

[trillian]

Well I don't think we should feel too bad about lyching Jacey. Crumb's argument was that Jacey wasn't acting like he has in past games where he was an ordinary villager, and sure enough he wasn't an ordinary villager. Unfortunately it just so happens he was a cop, not mafia. I think I probably would've stuck with my vote for him even if he had presented his defense in time.

You would have lynched anyway?

Not a very good idea. If he claims to know a mafia for sure, it's rather easy to check him out. Just lynch the accused and find out! To lynch him just as he comes out risks not getting another valuable viewing- which is what happened. Sorry Jacey that I wasn't online earlier!

And I believe I discussed earlier why the cop cannot strongly accuse their viewing? Did anyone read that post? The mafia are looking for exactly such tells so they can kill the cop before the views are revealed. It is a smart move not to accuse and especially not to be a first and single accuser.

[Smilin]

Well, we surely did the mafia a favor. I'm sorry you weren't online sooner too, Trillian.

[viscousmemories]

Just kill a potential innocent to find out? Damn trillian, you're cold-blooded. Where the hell were you earlier? :D

[Smilin]

ruthless yet effective!

[Julie]

Sorry I just PM spencer earlier.

Hubby was being an asshole from hell and I was luck to even get that message off.

To bad about lyncing the cop. Thats going to make the game very very hard to play.

[viscousmemories]

Oh well, it sucks that we killed the cop but it's still early in the first game and most of us are spankin' n00bs. We'll get better. It honestly hadn't even occurred to me to sacrifice livius for the sake of finding out whether Jacey was telling the truth, but it became obvious immediately after trillian pointed it out. :)

[Spenser]

Even though I'll probably have any doc and mafia PMs today, I won't call day break till tomorrow morning (the real morning)...

[Jacey]

Yes, there are several reasons for the reason I played. I can't honestly say how I would've played if I were mafia, since I've never had an evil character, but it sure wouldn't have been how it turned out.

As it lay, the case against me had no evidence and was simply based on the fact that I was an experienced player. Good for the mafia to kill me, bad for the town. I tried to point this out to keep my cover as the cop and that brought only more people down on me.

And for your knowledge, in this game I acted pretty much the same as I have in all the mafia games.

Great job guys.

[Jacey]

Just kill a potential innocent to find out? Damn trillian, you're cold-blooded. Where the hell were you earlier? :D

It would've signed my death warrant to indict an innocent, so there was no value in doing it.

[Adam]

I sort of wonder, as a new player, how the game changes once you've been through a few iterations with a given group. I mean, Jacey says that's always how he plays, but we didn't know that, so it looked suspicious. Similarly, for example, we now know that Legs and Smilin are talkative and quick with the accusations so, if we play again and they behave differently, will their acting differently be a tell that they have different roles than they have this game?

[viscousmemories]

As it lay, the case against me had no evidence and was simply based on the fact that I was an experienced player. Good for the mafia to kill me, bad for the town. I tried to point this out to keep my cover as the cop and that brought only more people down on me.
You didn't give much of a defense of yourself and then reluctantly accused livius (without giving a reason) when there were already six votes against you. I would've been much less suspicious if you'd given some, any reason for choosing livius. Then Adam voted, making it a majority vote to lynch you. So if I understand the rules, technically you had already been lynched before you came out as a cop and exposed liv as mafia. So I don't see how we could've done anything with the info if we'd wanted to.

[viscousmemories]

Yeah Adam, I'm sure the game changes a lot as people get to know each other's habits, but there should always be newbs jumping in to mix it up and make it interesting. I think that's part of the coolness of it.

[Jacey]

I sort of wonder, as a new player, how the game changes once you've been through a few iterations with a given group. I mean, Jacey says that's always how he plays, but we didn't know that, so it looked suspicious.

There was actually nothing I did that looked suspicious. There are several playing who didn't make very many posts and didn't draw much suspicion.

With 3 mafia I really needed to make it an extra day.

Jumping out and accusing liv? No no, if they paid any attention the mafia would know immediately that I was the cop.

vm, what defense could I have given that would've:
a) let me live
b) keep my cover as the cop

I'll tell you........none, because no one cited any sort of evidence against me, save a single post sort of trying to put in a word for Legs. The evidence was "oh he's experienced" and "oh he's experienced but he's not doing much," when I was actually reading and trying to figure out likely mafia partners and who to investigate. Then when I wake up this morning I'm just about lynched, and what could I do then?

I'm experienced to know what's going to happen now, the town will have a tough time.

[Adam]

There was actually nothing I did that looked suspicious.

Well, obviously, you did something that looked suspicious, or else we wouldn't have lynched you (sorry). :P That's part of what I was wondering, if the things that look supicious to us now would not look suspicious after we have more experience of both the game and the habits of other players, and if things that look innocuous to me now might look suspicious after I've played a couple times.

[Jacey]

At least in death I know who all the mafias are.

[RandomThoughts]

There was actually nothing I did that looked suspicious.

Well, obviously, you did something that looked suspicious, or else we wouldn't have lynched you (sorry). :P That's part of what I was wondering, if the things that look supicious to us now would not look suspicious after we have more experience of both the game and the habits of other players, and if things that look innocuous to me now might look suspicious after I've played a couple times.

:spirit:

[Legs]

Jacey, you got really lucking picking liv to investigate. I wonder why you chose her first, above everyone else.

[Jacey]

Jacey, you got really lucking picking liv to investigate. I wonder why you chose her first, above everyone else.

I already explained why.

[Legs]

Guess I missed it :shrug:

[Crumb]

She was the first on the list.

Shit I killed the cop! :cry:

[Legs]

Ohhh, that. Yes I remember Jacey saying that now on the other thread. What a fluke she was mob.

I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy

[Smilin]

I sort of wonder, as a new player, how the game changes once you've been through a few iterations with a given group. I mean, Jacey says that's always how he plays, but we didn't know that, so it looked suspicious. Similarly, for example, we now know that Legs and Smilin are talkative and quick with the accusations so, if we play again and they behave differently, will their acting differently be a tell that they have different roles than they have this game?

Well, I've learned about being quick on the draw. But I'm a total noob to the game and am just beginning to understand strategy.

It will be interesting how I and Legs will act when the roles have reversed. I've thought about that quite extensively.

At least through Jacey's death we now Know that liv is mafia scum. :mafioso:

[viscousmemories]

Ohhh, that. Yes I remember Jacey saying that now on the other thread. What a fluke she was mob.
Oh yeah, I remember that now too. I didn't get that he meant she was first on the list, I thought he was saying she was first on his list - which seemed more redundant than explanatory to me.

[slimshady2357]

I was approaching with the logic that since him and spenser were friends, that he would have been Maria. Seems he was made the cop instead.

Dammiittt!

At least we know the liv DEFINATELY is mafia!!! :muahaha:


I can understand that reasoning at first, but not once it was clear that the roles were assigned at random.

As an outlooker from the next town, I think it's clear smilin' is mafia. :giggle:

Oh and I look forward to the bloody lynching of liv. :hands1:

[wei yau]

Glad to see I wasn't lynched this weekend. It's a damn shame that the cop got killed, but I imagine that the next day is gonna be over pretty quickly.

[Spenser]

True so any Mafia or docs left should already be thinking of their night moves so this can be quick.

[livius drusus]

:muahaha:

I must say I'm quite pleased with myself. I think I did damn good for a n00b. :pleased:

[Spenser]

:muahaha:

I must say I'm quite pleased with myself. I think I did damn good for a n00b. :pleased:

You did fine, it was bad luck the cop picked you cause you were 1st on the list.

[Crumb]

I need to learn to go with my instinct in this game. I changed my mind on liv and it hurt us big time.

[Spenser]

Fastest day ever! 13 minutes.

[Julie]

:spirit: Hey Does this mean I now get to know who the Mafia are? Or do I have to wait still?

[livius drusus]

You did fine, it was bad luck the cop picked you cause you were 1st on the list.

Oh, I actually don't mind that at all. I find it rather fabulously amusing that the cop paid the ultimate price for busting me. The fact that I am now going to get the axe is part of the deliciousness of it all. I wasn't lying about being a confused n00b. I'm relieved to be off the hook and thrilled that I took the cop down first.

:recline:

[Spenser]

:spirit: Hey Does this mean I now get to know who the Mafia are? Or do I have to wait still?

PM Livius, maybe she'll share. But if you learn you must keep it zipped.

[viscousmemories]

So now we lose another townie before we had 10 minutes to talk about who else might be mafia. :doh:

[Spenser]

You'll have all the time in the world tomorrow.

[viscousmemories]

With input from one fewer townie, though.

[Crumb]

yeah vm, sorry I should have unvoted.

[Smilin]

Spenser, is discussion of the game allowed now, or no?

[livius drusus]

Discussion of the game, yes. Playing the game, no. IOW, you're going to have to wait until daybreak to defend yourself in the game thread.

[viscousmemories]

We can talk about what has happened but not what's going to happen. My last comment was probably right on that line, though, so I'm gonna shut up.

[wei yau]

Maybe I should stay online during the weekend. I'm surprised by that bit of good luck/bad luck that happened. Shame about Jacey the Cop, but it did turn up livius drusus (Mafia Princess).

[viscousmemories]

Maybe I should stay online during the weekend.
You're only just now realizing this?

[Julie]

Maybe I should stay online during the weekend. I'm surprised by that bit of good luck/bad luck that happened. Shame about Jacey the Cop, but it did turn up livius drusus (Mafia Princess).

LOL me too. Although I don't know how that would have saved me from the mafia. I could have and would have defended the cop though (even knowing he wasnt the cop)

[wei yau]

Maybe I should stay online during the weekend.
You're only just now realizing this?

Frankly, I have this weird blind spot where I think everyone is just like me. I just assumed that there wouldn't be that much activity on the weekend.

[viscousmemories]

No way! Weekends at the old :ff: have always been when everything important happens!!



Well okay, not really everything important, and they're usually much slower than weekdays... but work with me here!

[wei yau]

See? What's that weird philosopical idea that the world doesn't exist unless you personally observe it or interact with it?

That's what I got. I figure nothing happens without me. I am that important.

Are you telling me different? Are you pushing your worldview on me? Are you trying to send me back to psychotherapy?

[wei yau]

:muahaha:

I must say I'm quite pleased with myself. I think I did damn good for a n00b. :pleased:

Is that evil laugh representative of you when you found out that the late Jacey actually was the cop?

Evil, evil, evil.

And to think I actually thought you were a nice person....

[viscousmemories]

Oh man, remind me to tell you the one about the dog/beaver some day.

[wei yau]

Is now a good time? Just what did liv do to this dog/beaver? Did it involve a spork?

[viscousmemories]

It didn't involve liv or a spork, but it'd be too much of a derail to discuss in more detail here.

[Spenser]

I'd like to hear about this beaver.

[beyelzu]

nice liv,

loved the exit. plus voting for yourself, when knowing you were going to die helped kill discussion on who else is mafia. :bow:

sorry i havent been on the thread guys. i just cleaned up around the house a bit and started to eat my enchiladas and the next thing i knew the day and started and was over.

[wei yau]

I find that dog/beaver stories help me sleep at night. Especially when there are Mormon Mafia on the prowl.

[trillian]

Nice short day but as has been stated we don't get to round up any suspects in here.
I think as long as every player has been online since liv's lynching and the PM's are in, we can start day 3. Hopefully soon!

[Smilin]

Everyone has been online except for Legs trillian. Once she makes her appearance, hopefully the day will start in a couple of hours or so.

[Spenser]

We are indeed waiting on Legs, any one know when she is usually around?

[Smilin]

Usually between 3 p.m and 4 p.m. CST when she gets off work I believe.

[Spenser]

In that case, I'm off to lunch...

[Legs]

/me is present but had a bad day :needles:

[Adam]

* Legs Legs is present but had a bad day :needles:

Poor Legs Legs. :comfort:

[Leesifer]

:squeezle: Legs.

[wei yau]

:superlick: Poor, poor Legs

[Legs]

Thanks. it was worse than what happened to julie.

Poor Julie, sorry the mob took you down. :pat:

[Legs]

:superlick: Poor, poor Legs

Wow, my first super-lick!! :excited:

[wei yau]

I have a question for you more experienced Mafia players out there. Does bad blood ever linger from one of these games? I look at the Mafia threads over at IIDB and I see a lot of old history being brought up. I'd imagine that not only would that change the dynamics of a game, but I hope it doesn't lead to hard feelings between players.

It's probably nothing, I've been known to be a little over-sensitive about these kinds of things.

[Spenser]

It is easy to get heated in a game but I find it goes away shortly after. Remember, its only a game. The only time I got mad for real at a player was this one who wouldn't relent on calling me names and what not and it went a bit to far above the game. There is no reason to call some one stupid or an idiot and even if you get heated and it slips it should be a one time occurrence and not turn into flaming.

As a GM I will be looking for this type of stuff and ways to ease it. But don't be surprised if you get angry a few times, it really sucks being the first to die or ganged up on knowing you are innocent.

[Legs]

It's just a game IMO, Imay think someone is a rat but I still love them to pieces :squeezle:

[Smilin]

I don't take it personally. It's all in fun!

[Spenser]

Its a lot more stressful in Werewolf where it is a timed game and you don't need a majority to lynch, just the most votes at the end of the day. The PMing adds the element of personal trust and betrayal.

Like I said, its OK to get worked up in the game, just keep it in the game and let it go outside of...

[Crumb]

:hugs:

[wei yau]

/me puts away the flamewar gear and hugs Smilin

[Smilin]

/me gives wei yau a :manhug:

[Spenser]

Alright, alright, now go back to killing each other!!!!

[wei yau]

I tell ya, Clue's got nothing on this game.

Parker Brothers! Pay attention!

[livius drusus]

Oo! Oo! A dizzying spiral of recriminations and suspicion! :boogie: quiet bear was totally right that this game is even more fun postmortem.

[Spenser]

Oo! Oo! A dizzying spiral of recriminations and suspicion! :boogie: quiet bear was totally right that this game is even more fun postmortem.

You'd love Werewolf.

[wei yau]

Werewolf?

[livius drusus]

There wolf! :superlick:

[Spenser]

There, there wolf

http://aslan369.tripod.com/Movie/70s/YF1.jpg

[wei yau]

There castle! :lick:

[livius drusus]

We need a Marty Feldman smiley.

P.S. - :gromp:

[Smilin]

and the game's getting heated. I know how Jacey felt yesterday when I was running my mouth trying to have him lynched.... :beathead:

Frustrating isn't a word that can describe it.

[Spenser]

:beathead:

This smiley rules! :bow:

[trillian]

I have a question for you more experienced Mafia players out there. Does bad blood ever linger from one of these games? I look at the Mafia threads over at IIDB and I see a lot of old history being brought up. I'd imagine that not only would that change the dynamics of a game, but I hope it doesn't lead to hard feelings between players.

It's probably nothing, I've been known to be a little over-sensitive about these kinds of things.

No grudges for me though there are some players I might decline to play with, mainly because I don't like their style or they don't participate or contribute.

Before I played these games, I had only talked to one member at IIDB in 4 years of being a member. Now, I email and PM several cool people (Spenser and Jacey are 2!) that I consider my friends. Just because of these silly games!

That being said, I am so PISSED OFF that I'm dead and whoever killed me is going to get it next game!!!! F'ing Asshats! :fuming:

[Legs]

:3some2: :larrow: Legs and the 2 mobsters

[livius drusus]

I hate to mar the day with good will and gratitude, but I have to say Spenser is doing a might fine job GMing our little melee of tweaked out n00bs.

Muchas gracias, Spenser. :pounceglomp:

[Smilin]

HAHAheheheh....

I'm the next one to be killed trillian, and I was about to take up for you.

[Spenser]

Yeah, Trill is stalking me who is stalking Lauri who is stalking Jacey who is stalking Sentinel00 who is stalking Trill. We just keep going around in circles

[wei yau]

Buncha circle jerks.


Thanks for GM'ng Spenser, I'm really enjoying this game. My recent work performance is testament to this fact.

[Smilin]

yep, hats off to yah Spenser. I know now why Jacey is so fond of you... :lol:

[Spenser]

Hopefully we can garner some interest from some others and get enough folks to add some cool roles.

[Legs]

Thanks for all the time you put into the game, Spenser :thankee:

[Smilin]

and thanks goes to you for doing the horse races Legs...(which I still need to do... :doh:)

[Spenser]

Thanks for all the time you put into the game, Spenser :thankee:

Thats right!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/medktulu/sarcastic-kneelsuckers.gif

[Legs]

Stop sucking up :D I'm still voting for you :lmao:
:huggle: Smilin

[livius drusus]

Thanks for all the time you put into the game, Spenser :thankee:

Thats right!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/medktulu/sarcastic-kneelsuckers.gif

Oh don't let's get all cocky and non-native now. :glare:

[Smilin]

Stop sucking up :D I'm still voting for you :lmao:
:huggle: Smilin

:heybabeh:

[Spenser]

I appreciate all that appreciation. As a player I've been waiting to finally get the role of Mafia. I've been a wolf in Werewolf but its a tad bit different.

PS I did play this game live with a group of friends and was mob, that was cool!

[Adam]

Hey, dumb question, based on spenser's (I think) recommendation in the other thread that, if anything, we should all play in invisible mode...

If I go invisible, do I still show as being in the chat room when I'm there (on the :ff: main page, not in the chatroom itself)? I ask b/c I thought not, but Crumb said he'd been invisible for some time, and I see when he's in the chat room.

[Joshua Adams]

If I go invisible, do I still show as being in the chat room when I'm there (on the :ff: main page, not in the chatroom itself)?I can see that you are in chat, so apparently.



I've been reading the game thread with interest. Perhaps I'll play in a future round.

[livius drusus]

Yup. Even hidden people show up on the chat list.

[Joshua Adams]

BTW, I used to moderate a vBulletin forum, and I could see invisible people with a * by their username. So can't liv and vm cheat? :giggle:

[livius drusus]

That's the best part! :cartwheel:

[Joshua Adams]

A staple of online gameplay.

[Crumb]

:noid:

[Adam]

Cool, thanks, JA, liv. Maddog just popped into chat to verify it for me too.

[quiet bear]

I just read the game thread. Wow. I'm glad I'm out.

If anyone cares to go back and look at my first two votes.....

[Legs]

So you won't sign up if we play again?

[quiet bear]

I don't know if I should. I'll just get killed again. LOL. I do a lot of thinking, but not a lot of talking. I read the game thread, and there were five more pages from when I checked it this morning. Exhaustive. Heehee. I understand all the back and forth and reasoning and whatnot. I don't know.

[Legs]

It's all just fun, if you die, you die.

[quiet bear]

Tell me about it. LOLOLOL.

[Julie]

Oo! Oo! A dizzying spiral of recriminations and suspicion! :boogie: quiet bear was totally right that this game is even more fun postmortem.
It is...only one thins would make it better for me. I NEED to know whos mafia so i can enjoy the enterplay in the game thread even more :)

[slimshady2357]

WHAT?! No one was lynched last night after I went to bed? :kickscan:

I wants somes mores lynchings :D

Oh, and I'd like to play if we have another game after this one.

[Smilin]

:kickscan: :( :deepsigh: :( :kickscan: :unsad:

[Leesifer]

Smilin's got a couple of votes now, including me.

Sorry, Smilin but vm's reasoning is pretty sound.

This game does fuck with your mind though.

[Smilin]

Tiz okay Lees. I'm really not in the frame of mind or the spirit of the game today. I voted for myself to hasten my lynching so I can bow out.

[beyelzu]

smilin,

you ok?

[viscousmemories]

We still love ya, Smilin, scum or not!

:pounceglomp:

[Leesifer]

Smilin :superlick:

:huggle:

[Crumb]

Damn I was going to go vote for Smilin, and now I have to wait for day to defend myself. :(

[wei yau]

I hope everything is alright with you, Smilin.

[Jacey]

Why off me? You'll lose two townies as a result if you do that? I shared the evidence in light of trying to do what's in the towns best interest. That's how I've been playing the game (which obviously isn't the smart way to play)

Please take no offense in what I say and use it if you play in the future.

I would have voted to off you myself were I still alive. You did not play the game well at all. Myself and trillian, both being good guys were trying to stand back and figure out how all the new players played the game. Me, I had a role that with 3 mafia out there, is vital to the success of the town. trillian* wanted to keep a lowered profile so she could examine voting patterns to try and flush out likely suspects.

There was no reason to bandwagon me. I'm not bitter about it, just frustrated because I really enjoy these games. I still have no idea why you plucked me out of thin air and made many posts (PSSSSST, JAYCEE!!!!) trying to get me offed. There was no way I could refute anything you said because there was no "case" against me. You may think I was not playing, but I was watching almost every post, and hitting refresh quite often to see the new ones. With 13 players I know nothing about I need to make my investigations count, sticking my nose in would only get me killed by the mafia.

Why would I possibly have wanted to make a case for liv on day 2, as has been suggested? Liv knows she's mafia, and she'd done nothing to deserve a case made against her, YET. So exactly why did you jump to liv's rescue saying she's a n00b like yourself? I know you're a townie as spenser will soon reveal, so why? This more than anything got you killed.

I decided to bandwagon, knowing the mafia would most likely not kill me on night 2 if I did nothing incredibly overt. With 3 mafia out there, getting one isn't terribly significant because there are still 2 left, and at that point several innocents are dead. Myself and trillian didn't come out immediately and try to figure out anything on day 1 like some of you wanted us to do (and found suspicious that we didn't) because you are all over the place. Neither of us could figure out WTF was going on.




*we talked last night but I'm mostly guessing at what she was doing because she's smrt

[beyelzu]

so jacey, noob that i am, how do you think i have been playing in the games i have played thus far?

[Jacey]

so jacey, noob that i am, how do you think i have been playing in the games i have played thus far?

Good IMO overall, not going to say much since we're mid game on the one I'm GMing on II

[viscousmemories]

What information (if any) will we get if the mafia tries to kill someone under the doctor's protection?

[Jacey]

What information (if any) will we get if the mafia tries to kill someone under the doctor's protection?

None really

spenser will open the day, but there will be no kill announced

The doc will obviously know who he protected and that the mafia went for them, and the mafia will know that player was protected, the town will know only if the doc outs himself and tells everyone

[viscousmemories]

Okay cool, thanks.

[Smilin]

:hung: :spirit:

Jacey,

Thanks for your observation and input. No offense was ever intended dude. You, spencer, and everyone else here are very cool in my books. I'm just having some personal issues right now is all and took myself out of the game so I can concentrate on what's important in life.

No offense, okay, dude?

[Adam]

You all right, there, Smilin'? Personal issues suck.

[viscousmemories]

Take care of yourself, Smilin. Sorry about inciting the lynch mob against you! :manhug:

[beyelzu]

smilin,

take care, as others have said. i hope shit works out.

[Crumb]

Hope you are ok Smilin. :manhug:

[Leesifer]

:cohnoes: we lynched another Townie.

A thousand apologies Smilin.

[Legs]

Nooooooooo! he can't be a townie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smilin you totally acted guilty, I've never seen anyone act more guilty (except maybe that Scott Peterson dude)

I'm sorry :cry:

and I hope you get your problems worked out :huggle:

[Julie]

Man I wish I was still in the game. This is good!

Sorry ya got lynched smilin, and I hope your personal stuff gets worked ok.

Could the mafia left alive please let Liv tell me who you are.
Pretty please?
Pretty please with sugar on top?
Pretty please with a cherry on top?

[Jacey]

:hung: :spirit:

Jacey,

Thanks for your observation and input. No offense was ever intended dude. You, spencer, and everyone else here are very cool in my books. I'm just having some personal issues right now is all and took myself out of the game so I can concentrate on what's important in life.

No offense, okay, dude?

No offense taken, my post probably came off "way harsh" and that wasn't the point, but context on the internets........bleh. I mainly made the post because we have so many new players, I do enjoy this game a lot and want it to keep going.

I have some very serious personal issues going on myself right now, hope all resolves well with yours.

[Sock Puppet]

I really regret not getting into this game, but I knew I'd be out of town a couple days. Plus I wasn't sure how this game would evolve, not having read the IIDB threads. But I read the entire game thread here, and I rarely read an entire thread I'm not posting in.

I suppose it wouldn't be fair to add quotes from the game to the Generator.

She wasn't going anywhere. We had all day to lynch her.

But damn, it's tempting. :choices:

[Crumb]

Feel free. Especially the one about lynching the cop and finding the mobster. :giggles:

[wei yau]

So, Sock you want in on the next one?

[Spenser]

If we get enough folks on the next one we can make it very interesting. If people can agree on a set time we can do a game of Werewolf...

[Smilin]

Nooooooooo! he can't be a townie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smilin you totally acted guilty, I've never seen anyone act more guilty (except maybe that Scott Peterson dude)

I'm sorry :cry:

and I hope you get your problems worked out :huggle:

Well, in real life such as I have been in the game, I'm usually my own worst enemy.

When will I learn?

Probably never, but it is what it is. The demons I create for myself I have to live with. :sigh:

[Sock Puppet]

So, Sock you want in on the next one?
I'll be there, so long as I can work out away-time without bogging down the game. I probably couldn't commit to the Werewolf time format.

:manhug: for Smilin

[wei yau]

Yeah, I'd probably have to stay away from Werewolf for the same reasons. And I'll probably alternate Mafia game participation.

[Crumb]

If we get enough folks on the next one we can make it very interesting. If people can agree on a set time we can do a game of Werewolf...
Werewolf seems like the advanced version to me. It may be better to get a little more experience with mafia.

[Smilin]

I'm a glutton for punishment and will probably jump right in on the next one wei. I get too wrapped up in the forum and the game, but DAYYUUMM..it's addicting, isn't it?

[Adam]

I'll definitely play again, but I might have to shy away from werewolf and the time committment. I have days when i can post from work and days when I have 6-8 hours of solid meetings and don't see my desk all day.

[wei yau]

Very addicting, but for the sake of my own sanity and gainful employment, it'd be best for me to take a break now and again.

[Smilin]

Very addicting, but for the sake of my own sanity and gainful employment, it'd be best for me to take a break now and again.
Yes. This has been interferring with my work progress,too. I'm gonna have to knock it off for a while.

[Spenser]

I have long database processes that have to run at work so I tend to work and play at the same time. This works out well since I have two monitors.

[livius drusus]

I just have to take a moment to giggle over "Viciusmemories". At least it wasn't vicious mammaries. :ffgiggle:

I'm sorry life is sucking, Smilin. :snuggles:

[curses]

:hug:s for smilin.

And I'd like to play in the next round, too.
:pickme: