Chat Room

[Godot]

I've wandered in a couple of times already, but nobody has been in there. I have noticed that it takes a bit of time for it to load, even with a DSL connection. I once tried with a dialup at liv's behest but I gave up after about 5-odd minutes of waiting.

Some questions:

Do you think that this load time might prevent anyone from particiapting in the future?

Who are the ops in the room, and what is to be done if none of them are around?

Is this chat room available on IRC at all? And if so, what are the server details? If not, why not?

Do any different rules apply to conduct in chat relative to conduct on the board? If so, why?

Thank you.

[viscousmemories]

Do you think that this load time might prevent anyone from particiapting in the future?
I'm sure it will, but when we weighed that chat program against the other available programs, we concluded that the enhancements (images, smilies, sounds, etc.) made it worth trying.

Who are the ops in the room, and what is to be done if none of them are around?
I'm not sure what you mean. Why should the room require ops?

Is this chat room available on IRC at all? And if so, what are the server details? If not, why not?
No it isn't. It's a flash program that resides on our server.

Do any different rules apply to conduct in chat relative to conduct on the board? If so, why?
We haven't determined whether there should be rules for the chatroom. I'm inclined to think there shouldn't be since the few rules we have here are largely inapplicable in a realtime discussion format, but I would definitely be interested in hearing your and anyone else's thoughts on whether we should have restrictions in chat, and how best to enforce such restrictions.

[Godot]

Re: ops

How will you defend against assholery? If some tit comes in and starts spamming the chat room or hampering any sort of discussion in a meaningful way, what then?

Of course, if you really want a free for all, totally unfettered by standard conventions of conduct, that's fine too.

[Adam]

And what's the deal with the T3 background in the chat room, anyway?

[viscousmemories]

Re: Ops

How will you defend against assholery? If some tit comes in and starts spamming the chat room or hampering any sort of discussion in a meaningful way, what then?

Of course, if you really want a free for all, totally unfettered by standard conventions of conduct, that's fine too.
I'm not sure, I don't have much experience with using chatrooms. You appear to be saying that the only way we can have a chatroom wherein standard conventions of conduct are honored is to constantly monitor the discussions for "assholery", which includes hampering the discussion by spamming the room. Is that accurate?

Is there more to your notion of "assholery" than spamming? Do you think we should censor the discussions for any words or concepts? Would we need more than one OP? Should we ensure that an OP is online 24x7 and/or modify the software so the chat is disabled if an OP isn't present? What action should be taken? Short-term suspensions? Banning? Loss of access to the chatroom?

To be honest, we didn't give it a tremendous amount of discussion and as I said I haven't participated much in chatrooms. As I said above, though, we're very interested in any input you might have.

[Adam]

I think that, before we worry about assholery in the chat room, we need more people than just OneForSorrow and I in there...I can't show my full range of assholish powers without an audience.

Seriously, there probably should be some plan for dealing with poor behavior in the chat room, although I don't know what that might be. Can the voting system be extended to the chat room so people's reputation would suffer as a result of their behavior there? Maybe anyone with X reputation would be an op automatically? Maybe there could be an added feature on the drop down menu for each user where an alert including userid and timestamp could be sent to the admins if you clicked on it? /End random ideas.

[Godot]

Not necessarily. Given that people will have to register on the board in order to access the chatroom will likely minimise the spamming of the place. Besides, if someone takes advantage of it to do so, banning (from either the room or the board) is about the only way to handle it.
I'd like to think that people can co-exist without being pricks, but what is going to happen if one member starts harrassing another in the chat room? Sure, you can do something about it eventually, but what about right then and there? Without that sort of safety net, what will encourage anyone to come back in after they've been abused without any recourse to keep the abuser in check?

I see no need to censor words of any sort, but some concepts can be done without in a live-time chat environment. For example, your rules state that warez and kiddie porn are verboten on the boards, but what about in the chat? If the chat is wide open, then you can't ban that sort of stuff.

As for op coverage, it largely depends on how busy the room is and when. Why have an op on when most of the people that would be on the board will be asleep or at work? Kinda pointless, really. I'd let it go for a bit so you get an idea of your peak periods and maybe solicit an op from one of the more level headed participants. I think that banning from the chat room is the bare minimum, whether temporary or permanent would depend on the infraction (like harassment or repetitive linking to tubgirl). If things get really out of control, then banning from the board may be in order (like for kiddie porn).

I think that a minimum post count or rep standing should be met in order to enable access to the chat room, if only to minimise the potential for assholery. but then again, in a real-time environment, all bets are off.

[Adam]

OK, here's a fun chat room issue. I was in the room, chatting happily, when I vanished from everyone's list of participants, including my own, and all my text changed to a font I couldn't read. I logged out but, when I came back, was told that another user was already logged in with my name and asked to log in with a different name. I tried to do so, but no dice., The same dialog keeps popping back up.

This may or may not have anything to do with the fact that I was trying to open the chat room in two different browsers at the same time right before it happened.

Doing my bit to report issues and bugs...

[Godot]

And we saw you come back in every time too. I wonder if you may have to log out from the site entirely to sort that one out.

[viscousmemories]

I think that, before we worry about assholery in the chat room, we need more people than just OneForSorrow and I in there...I can't show my full range of assholish powers without an audience.
:D

Seriously, there probably should be some plan for dealing with poor behavior in the chat room, although I don't know what that might be.
I can definitely see how that might be the case.

Can the voting system be extended to the chat room so people's reputation would suffer as a result of their behavior there? Maybe anyone with X reputation would be an op automatically? Maybe there could be an added feature on the drop down menu for each user where an alert including userid and timestamp could be sent to the admins if you clicked on it? /End random ideas.
All of those are fine ideas, but would involve extensive customization of the software at an expense that I'm not yet convinced would be justified. Plus, I think we still need to determine whether the voting system and consequent reputation numbers are a useful system at all before extending them to other areas of the fora.

[viscousmemories]

Not necessarily. Given that people will have to register on the board in order to access the chatroom will likely minimise the spamming of the place.
That was our hope.

Besides, if someone takes advantage of it to do so, banning (from either the room or the board) is about the only way to handle it.
Okay.

I'd like to think that people can co-exist without being pricks, but what is going to happen if one member starts harrassing another in the chat room? Sure, you can do something about it eventually, but what about right then and there? Without that sort of safety net, what will encourage anyone to come back in after they've been abused without any recourse to keep the abuser in check?
I see your point, but of course that puts someone in the position of having to make a judgement call about what constitutes abuse which runs contrary to our desire for self and/or community governance. This isn't to say I reject the notion, but that would be a hinderence.

I see no need to censor words of any sort, but some concepts can be done without in a live-time chat environment. For example, your rules state that warez and kiddie porn are verboten on the boards, but what about in the chat? If the chat is wide open, then you can't ban that sort of stuff.
I agree about the word censoring, and since we don't have the ability to allow users to choose word censoring or not (as we do here in the fora) I would prefer to have no censorship of words at all. So as of now we have removed the censorship that was built in. I may be wrong about this, but I don't believe there is any way for members to transfer files to each other via the chatroom, so the sharing of pirated software and/or kiddie porn is a non-issue. But did you mean to say that the concept of warez and kiddie porn should be prohibited, as in discussions of such should be disallowed?

As for op coverage, it largely depends on how busy the room is and when. Why have an op on when most of the people that would be on the board will be asleep or at work? Kinda pointless, really. I'd let it go for a bit so you get an idea of your peak periods and maybe solicit an op from one of the more level headed participants.
Sounds reasonable.

I think that banning from the chat room is the bare minimum, whether temporary or permanent would depend on the infraction (like harassment or repetitive linking to tubgirl). If things get really out of control, then banning from the board may be in order (like for kiddie porn).
Okay.

I think that a minimum post count or rep standing should be met in order to enable access to the chat room, if only to minimise the potential for assholery. but then again, in a real-time environment, all bets are off.
As it stands a minimum reputation is required, but of course as we are discussing in the Post Voting (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58) thread the effectiveness of that system is far from ironed out yet.

[Godot]

I may be wrong about this, but I don't believe there is any way for members to transfer files to each other via the chatroom, so the sharing of pirated software and/or kiddie porn is a non-issue. But did you mean to say that the concept of warez and kiddie porn should be prohibited, as in discussions of such should be disallowed? I agree with you that tehre doesn't seem to be a file transfer option in the chat room, but if that was really such a worry why allow file uploading on the board at all? As a side note, are users able to add attachments via PM? So what would stop them from doing so through that venue?
Anyways, I'm not saying that discussions involving kiddie porn or warez should be prohibited at all, but merely how said discussions would take place. After all, there is still the option for people to post links in the chatroom. If someone were to post a link to kiddie porn there, what would you do? Or if they posted a link to a keygen.exe file? That's the sort of thing I meant. If it isn't allowed on the boards directly, why doesn't the same principle apply to the chatroom?

[viscousmemories]

As a side note, are users able to add attachments via PM? So what would stop them from doing so through that venue?
Yes, it's possible to attach files to a PM and therefore possible to attach illegal files to a PM. However as stated in our privacy policy we do not monitor the content of PM's, so all we can do is encourage the membership to report any illegal activity to the proper authorities. We have provided the information about how to contact the correct legal outlets at the bottom of our rules statement, here (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=133&postcount=1).

Anyways, I'm not saying that discussions involving kiddie porn or warez should be prohibited at all, but merely how said discussions would take place. After all, there is still the option for people to post links in the chatroom. If someone were to post a link to kiddie porn there, what would you do? Or if they posted a link to a keygen.exe file? That's the sort of thing I meant. If it isn't allowed on the boards directly, why doesn't the same principle apply to the chatroom?
The rules you refer to specify the posting of illegal and/or software damaging content. To the best of my knowledge (and please correct me if you can cite a contrary source), an HTML link cannot and does not itself constitute illegal content, and neither of the examples you use could potentially damage the chat room itself. Again, though, if you can cite any case where an individual or webhost was implicated for having HTML links to illegal content it would be a great service to us to know about it.

[LadyShea]

Couple of points

1. I think it's overly pessimistic to assume, especially this early, that there will be a bunch of problems in the chat room and we need to adress it NOW. Let's see if the chat room is even popular, then see if there are problems, then figure out the best way to handle them.

2. Most chat room problems occur on open chats where bored kiddies and trolls can go harass unsuspecting people virtually unfettered....IRC and AOL and Yahoo etc are all available to these people, I seriously doubt they will find this site and register just to cause problems.

3. Nobody will die, nor will the site blow up if there happens to be a chat session ruined at some point in the unlikely event that a troll is hellbent on getting to the chat here.

I propose some simple reporting process be put in place, so that if there is a problem in the chat room, users can copy and paste the offending dialogue, and the perpetrator of mayhem be banned from chat. No, it is not immediate, but the whole idea of community self policing should indicate to people that they will get one chance at having thier stupid fun before they are tossed on their ass by the community, and hopefully, find linking to tubgirl one night not worth the hassle.

[Hugo Holbling]

... was told that another user was already logged in with my name and asked to log in with a different name. I tried to do so, but no dice., The same dialog keeps popping back up.

Did you figure out what was wrong, Adam? The same thing is happening to me.

[Adam]

And we saw you come back in every time too. I wonder if you may have to log out from the site entirely to sort that one out.

I tried that last night...logged out from the fourm via both Opera and Firefox, but no luck. I can get in now, though, so whatever needed to timeout before I could get back in has apprently done so. Let my sad example serve as a waring to the rest of you! Two browsers at once can sound like a groovy time, but stick to monobrowsing, as the good Lord intended!

[Adam]

Did you figure out what was wrong, Adam? The same thing is happening to me.

No, I just waited long enough for the system to forget how naughty I'd been. Were you doing anything weird like I was with the two browsers, or would it just not let you in?

[viscousmemories]

I tried that last night...logged out from the fourm via both Opera and Firefox, but no luck. I can get in now, though, so whatever needed to timeout before I could get back in has apprently done so. Let my sad example serve as a waring to the rest of you! Two browsers at once can sound like a groovy time, but stick to monobrowsing, as the good Lord intended!
Glad you're back in, Adam. I have nevertheless contacted the programmer who hacked the login code to ask if he has any tips for how to avoid this dilemma in the future.

[Godot]

Couple of points

1. I think it's overly pessimistic to assume, especially this early, that there will be a bunch of problems in the chat room and we need to adress it NOW. Let's see if the chat room is even popular, then see if there are problems, then figure out the best way to handle them. It is overly optimistic to act as though there is no possibility of problems occurring in the future. Is it better to deal with them as they arise in an ad hoc manner, or try to establish some sort of contingency plan just in case?

2. Most chat room problems occur on open chats where bored kiddies and trolls can go harass unsuspecting people virtually unfettered....IRC and AOL and Yahoo etc are all available to these people, I seriously doubt they will find this site and register just to cause problems. I agree entirely, but that doesn't mean that it can't happen. Trolls do exist and we both know it. When the word gets out that this place is live, how long do think it will take for the odd drive-by to make an appearance? To act as though we shouldn't make any plans right now for the future because we haven't had any problems yet is unnecessarily narrow-minded.
Problems will occur. Period. Given the nature of the chat room on this site, they will certainly be few and far between (he says optimistically).

But. They. Will. Happen.

3. Nobody will die, nor will the site blow up if there happens to be a chat session ruined at some point in the unlikely event that a troll is hellbent on getting to the chat here. Good thing I never said that it would happen either. Pity, 'twas a nice strawman too.

I propose some simple reporting process be put in place, so that if there is a problem in the chat room, users can copy and paste the offending dialogue, and the perpetrator of mayhem be banned from chat. No, it is not immediate, but the whole idea of community self policing should indicate to people that they will get one chance at having thier stupid fun before they are tossed on their ass by the community, and hopefully, find linking to tubgirl one night not worth the hassle. As it stands, the admins have a log of all public and private conversations held in the chat room. I think so long as a name and timestamp is provided, they can find the offending material and act accordingly. But that too may plaec an excessive amount of work on the admins.
And what exactly do you mean when you say that the community will decide? Will we take a formal vote on the matter? Will it be by Administerial Fiat, open to criticism? Or will it be completely situationally relevant?

[Hugo Holbling]

No. It let me in - so i could see Beth there (hi, Beth :wave: ) - but as soon as i tried to type anything i got bumped out and back to being told someone else with my name was already around. Hard to believe there are two Hugo Holblings, though, for all our sakes... :scared2:

[Godot]

Yes, it's possible to attach files to a PM and therefore possible to attach illegal files to a PM. However as stated in our privacy policy we do not monitor the content of PM's, so all we can do is encourage the membership to report any illegal activity to the proper authorities. We have provided the information about how to contact the correct legal outlets at the bottom of our rules statement, here (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=133&postcount=1).
I was simply pointing out that there are ways to circumvent the rules you currently have while still being on the board.

The rules you refer to specify the posting of illegal and/or software damaging content. To the best of my knowledge (and please correct me if you can cite a contrary source), an HTML link cannot and does not itself constitute illegal content, and neither of the examples you use could potentially damage the chat room itself. Again, though, if you can cite any case where an individual or webhost was implicated for having HTML links to illegal content it would be a great service to us to know about it.
So then you have no problem if I were to link to kiddie porn or warez? After all, if it's an HTML link, there's no harm, right?

[viscousmemories]

I was simply pointing out that there are ways to circumvent the rules you currently have while still being on the board.
Thank you for your concern.

So then you have no problem if I were to link to kiddie porn or warez? After all, if it's an HTML link, there's no harm, right?
I'm not sure what you mean by would I have a "problem" with it. Are you asking if I would personally approve of the behavior, or if we have any explicit rule forbidding it? If the former, no, I would not approve of it. If the latter, I have already answered your question above. However if there was something in my response you need clarification on, please let me know.

[LadyShea]

It is overly optimistic to act as though there is no possibility of problems occurring in the future. Is it better to deal with them as they arise in an ad hoc manner, or try to establish some sort of contingency plan just in case?

I personally feel it is more productive to address things that are rather than things that might be, but my way is not necessarily the right way...I was just voicing my opinion.

Thinking ahead to possible problems is certainly a good thing, but I see no reason to spend oodles of time hashing out plans and procedures that may never be needed.

I agree entirely, but that doesn't mean that it can't happen. Trolls do exist and we both know it. When the word gets out that this place is live, how long do think it will take for the odd drive-by to make an appearance? To act as though we shouldn't make any plans right now for the future because we haven't had any problems yet is unnecessarily narrow-minded.
Problems will occur. Period. Given the nature of the chat room on this site, they will certainly be few and far between (he says optimistically).But. They. Will. Happen.

Yes, there will probably be a problem or two, but shouldn't we see what the nature of the problems are first? I don't see linking to tubgirl or something all that dire in a live chat situation as everyone can log out of the chat room, leaving the troll alone and bored. Group social dynamics in real time.

Good thing I never said that it would happen either. Pity, 'twas a nice strawman too.

Good thing it wasn't an attack on anyone, simply an observation I made.

I do wonder though what consequences you envision if there is a problem in chat and no OPS to take care of them immediately?

As it stands, the admins have a log of all public and private conversations held in the chat room. I think so long as a name and timestamp is provided, they can find the offending material and act accordingly. But that too may plaec an excessive amount of work on the admins.

I don't think the admins should have to review every chat log. If a problem is reported, then verify it however ( a copy and paste is easiest on the admins), then take appropriate action.

And what exactly do you mean when you say that the community will decide? Will we take a formal vote on the matter? Will it be by Administerial Fiat, open to criticism? Or will it be completely situationally relevant?

No, I mean whoever is in the chat room will either leave, report the problem, or both or neither. The admins will then need to decide only if they feel the reported behavior crosses the line and whether or not they want to do anything about it, like suspend chat priveliges.

Basically, if someone says X in a chat room, and nobody in the room at the time is offended or bothered, or handled the situation themselves then nothing need be done. If the community is bothered, the community will report it and/or take care of it like all social groups.

[Godot]

Yes, there will probably be a problem or two, but shouldn't we see what the nature of the problems are first? I don't see linking to tubgirl or something all that dire in a live chat situation as everyone can log out of the chat room, leaving the troll alone and bored. Group social dynamics in real time.
Great, so everyone leaves and the troll becomes the king of the castle. My understanding of trolls is that they seek to disrupt a community. Emptying out a chat room with a link to tubgirl would be a resounding success in my mind. Sure, the troll might lose interest in doing it after the third or fourth or hundredth time, but what about eveyone else? If you frequent a chat room where spamming is a regular occurence and nothing is done about it, are you going to continue to go there or are you going to find a better way to pass your leisure time? If a troll shows up and is allowed to prevail, people will simply not frequent the chat room any longer.

[LadyShea]

Great, so everyone leaves and the troll becomes the king of the castle. My understanding of trolls is that they seek to disrupt a community. Emptying out a chat room with a link to tubgirl would be a resounding success in my mind. Sure, the troll might lose interest in doing it after the third or fourth or hundredth time, but what about eveyone else?

Which is why I stated we should have a reporting function so the troll cannot return a second time.

If you frequent a chat room where spamming is a regular occurence and nothing is done about it, are you going to continue to go there or are you going to find a better way to pass your leisure time? If a troll shows up and is allowed to prevail, people will simply not frequent the chat room any longer.

Um, I am not suggesting nothing be done, I am simply stating that the action does not need to be immediate to be effective. Each user in a chat has the ability to ignore any other chat user and not have to see their spamming, trolling or links. This is standard in most chat programs. If someone is causing a problem, and nobody can see it, is there really a problem?

[Ronin]

Anyone else not allowed in at all?

I get this message when I try:

Ronin, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Is this somehow Petra's doing?

I suspect the Kiwi...she's always been teacher's pet.

Bet it was because I wouldn't play Milkmaid and the Panzer Commander with her last week.

Well, isn't that just fine. I see how it is...

[viscousmemories]

What OS, browser, etc. are you using Ronin?

[Petra]

Is this somehow Petra's doing?

I suspect the Kiwi...she's always been teacher's pet.

Bet it was because I wouldn't play Milkmaid and the Panzer Commander with her last week.

Well, isn't that just fine. I see how it is...

The only reason you wouldn't play is because I wouldn't let you be the milkmaid. I'm sorry, Ronin, but the dindl just didn't look quite as fetching on you as it did on me - I don't care what your mother says.

Besides, seeing you in that Panzer Commander's uniform....well, you know the rest, and I'm sorry about your trousers. I'll replace them. Honest.

But the chat thing? That's got nothing to do with me. Has it vm? *slips vm a fiver while Ronin's not looking*

[viscousmemories]

But the chat thing? That's got nothing to do with me. Has it vm? *slips vm a fiver while Ronin's not looking*
/me pockets the fiver.

Nope, no ma'am. Not a thing to do with you. :popcorn:

[Ronin]

What OS, browser, etc. are you using Ronin?

I use Mozilla Firefox on my personal PC and just tried Chat at work using IE.

Both give me the same results.

Tell me that doesn't have Little Miss Heinz Guderian written all the heck over it!

[Ronin]

The only reason you wouldn't play is because I wouldn't let you be the milkmaid. I'm sorry, Ronin, but the dindl just didn't look quite as fetching on you as it did on me - I don't care what your mother says.

Besides, seeing you in that Panzer Commander's uniform....well, you know the rest, and I'm sorry about your trousers. I'll replace them. Honest.


Not talking to you...La La La La La...

[viscousmemories]

I use Mozilla Firefox on my personal PC and just tried Chat at work using IE.

Both give me the same results.

Tell me that doesn't have Little Miss Heinz Guderian written all the heck over it!
Okay you're right. I'm sorry but it is her. I'll see if we can't supercede her.

[Ronin]

Okay you're right. I'm sorry but it is her. I'll see if we can't supercede her.

Very good.

Thanks, vm, I knew I could count on you to always do the right thing.

*snugs up dirndl*

Let me know how it works out.

[livius drusus]

I noticed another member was getting the "no permission" error this morning (Sorry about that, Leesifer. We promise it's just a bug. :)) Our wonderprogrammer Brian is working on it even as I type.

Thank you for your patience, all.

[Ronin]

I'd just like to point out that my chat access is still being denied because of a certain someone's "dabbling" with the Admin of this site (late night phone calls, lilting voice, ear-burning flirtations...etceterAH, etceterAH).

One need only check out her recent arcade "scores" to witness that the fix is in...and then realize just how deep this twisted succubi has burrowed into the matrix of their minds.

Feh.

[livius drusus]

It's all about the arcade with you, isn't it, Ronin?

Feh, indeed.

[D. Scarlatti]

It works for me, but sitting around talking to myself is too much like real life.

[livius drusus]

Well I'm in there right now, so quit yer bitchin' and come in.

[Ronin]

It's all about the arcade with you, isn't it, Ronin?

Feh, indeed.

I'm so sure I don't know what you mean.

I can quit anytime I feel like it.

Unlike some people and their penchant for a chat up and quick lolly scramble up her knickers.

Can it be any more obvious?

[Ronin]

It works for me, but sitting around talking to myself is too much like real life.

Well I'm in there right now, so quit yer bitchin' and come in.

I rest my damn case.

Fine.

[livius drusus]

And I ignored him for 5 minutes because I was playing Tetris. I rest my case.

[Ronin]

And I ignored him for 5 minutes because I was playing Tetris. I rest my case.

This isn't about him.

It isn't even about you.

It is about ME, dammit!

I wanna chat and no one seems to care about MY needs.

What kind of a place is THIS?!

How can I beat vm at curveball when he's obviously some sort of highly advanced alien life form with incomparable eye-tentacle coordination?!

How can I EVEN try to get high score at bowling now when I'd have to beat a little girl to do it?

Where are all the rank amateurs coming from to beat ME at blackjack AND J20?

How in the HELL did Shake get that Alchemy score?!

These are the insanely twisted and enigmatic riddles that are causing me no end of torment and chafing.

So, you see, I MUST have another outlet.

I MUST have chat, release them from your siren song Petra, and make it snappy wench!

[viscousmemories]

Have you tried deleting your cookies, Ronin?

[Ronin]

Have you tried deleting your cookies, Ronin?

Are you kidding?

You think I want my boss to find out about this place?!

You can do better than that, Squidward.

[livius drusus]

This isn't about him.

True.

It isn't even about you.

Kiss your mother with that mouth?

It is about ME, dammit!

Okay, okay.

I wanna chat and no one seems to care about MY needs.

I...care...

What kind of a place is THIS?!

No idea there, brother.

How can I beat vm at curveball when he's obviously some sort of highly advanced alien life form with incomparable eye-tentacle coordination?!

Don't blame me. I voted for Kang.

How can I EVEN try to get high score at bowling now when I'd have to beat a little girl to do it?

Just as long as you don't touch the Tetris gorgon.

Where are all the rank amateurs coming from to beat ME at blackjack AND J20?

Yeah, how about that? We've got some killer dark horses round these parts, don't we? I'm looking at you, Donald.

How in the HELL did Shake get that Alchemy score?!

The Red King on his side, perhaps?

These are the insanely twisted and enigmatic riddles that are causing me no end of torment and chafing.

Remove the assless leather chaps before playing in the arcade. It's just common sense.

So, you see, I MUST have another outlet.

On that, we are most assuredly agreed.

I MUST have chat, release them from your siren song Petra, and make it snappy wench!

I leave that for the master.




bater

[viscousmemories]

I made a change to the configuration. Try again, Ronin. :)

[Ronin]

I made a change to the configuration. Try again, Ronin. :)

Yay...I'm in!!

You ROCK, Doc Ock!!

[Petra]

Yay...I'm in!!

Yay! I hope you'll be around later. I miss chatting with you. :)

[Larry]

Where are all the rank amateurs coming from to beat ME at blackjack AND J20?
Who you calling an amateur, bud? :fuming: :wink:

Larry :)

[viscousmemories]

I needed $7,200 to take the high in BJ last night. I got $7,400. Then I got greedy. (Sad that it works just the same when I'm playing for real money). Made it up to $7,800, then fell all the way back down to $5,000. Stuck it out until I had $7,400 again... and got greedy. This time only fell down to $6,000, but it took so long to get back up to $7,300 I opted to stay there. All hail me!

[D. Scarlatti]

BJ

Now that is my kind of arcade.

[viscousmemories]

Now that is my kind of arcade.
I wondered who'd be the first perv to comment on that. :D