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viscousmemories
08-08-2006, 03:39 AM
This thread is for discussion of Mafia - Game III (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9414).

livius drusus
08-08-2006, 03:46 AM
Man, I am so looking forward to this game. I'm loving, loving the John LeCarre spy thriller opening, and the special roles are enough to keep the game hopping while still encouraging judicious choices.

Let the slaughter begin. :popcorn:

Joshua Adams
08-08-2006, 04:29 AM
Does the town need to kill the traitor in order to win?

MonCapitan2002
08-08-2006, 04:31 AM
My guess is yes.

viscousmemories
08-08-2006, 04:43 AM
Does the town need to kill the traitor in order to win?
Nope. The traitor is impotent after his/her one kill, so if the family is killed off s/he'll flee - regardless of whether s/he got that kill.

Crumb
08-08-2006, 04:27 PM
Nice openning, vm. Let's make this a townie win!

Leesifer
08-09-2006, 11:02 PM
I love and hate this game at the same time.

:gangster2:

Smilin
08-09-2006, 11:10 PM
Geezee...LYNCH someone already!

Leesifer
08-09-2006, 11:18 PM
Smilin, we can't rush these things. :giggles:

Sock Puppet
08-09-2006, 11:18 PM
vote: Smilin

:guilty:

Smilin
08-09-2006, 11:20 PM
:hissyfit: :ffangry: :bsod: :cangry: :angrymob:

Leesifer
08-09-2006, 11:36 PM
:pat:

We'll get there eventually.

livius drusus
08-09-2006, 11:50 PM
You must learn patience, young grasshopper. :peace1:

Leesifer
08-10-2006, 02:15 AM
OMG! I'm loving this game.

MonCapitan2002
08-10-2006, 04:26 AM
The game moves so quickly! When I logged in tonight there were nearly 200 posts in the thread. It is almost a :tldr: situation at times.

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 05:03 AM
well it will move a little more slowly now, im out of this game. have fun moncap.

enjoy the mafia.

livius drusus
08-10-2006, 05:05 AM
WTF, bey? You know how the game is played, and God knows you can both dish it out and take it. I'm surprised to see you flame out like this.

TomJoe
08-10-2006, 05:06 AM
What a fucking baby bey. Maybe you'll grow up when you return.

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 05:12 AM
go fuck yourself you sanctimonious prick.

you were being a condescending cocksucker in the thread, it irritated me i decided that i would rather not play the fucking game then play with you just then..


i didnt want to make a flame war with someone who actually has something useful to contribute at ff. i try not to spread shit on the walls of a place that i really enjoy.

but you want to follow me and call me names.

fine. fuck you you stupid fucking cocksucker.

im such a fucking baby, sure. maybe i will grow up, oh how you wound, me

prick.

livius drusus
08-10-2006, 05:16 AM
bey, you've jerked people around masterfully, lying to their face and enjoying it in this game. You know that's how it's done. What's a little condescension to inspire this level of venom, not to mention the total buzzkill of the game?

TomJoe
08-10-2006, 05:16 AM
This coming from the guy who just got done commenting about how these fora have plenty of examples of his "in your face" posting style.

So when someone posts in a similar manner, bey turns into a three year old. Yes, you're a baby. It's very easy to give bey, it's a bitch to take though, eh?

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 05:16 AM
btw, tomjoe, great call on me being mafia, huh, you master fucking detective you.

TomJoe
08-10-2006, 05:20 AM
btw, tomjoe, great call on me being mafia, huh, you master fucking detective you.

I never claimed infallibility or omnipotence. Would make these games sorta pointless if I were.

You done being a cry baby?

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 05:20 AM
This coming from the guy who just got done commenting about how these fora have plenty of examples of his "in your face" posting style.

So when someone posts in a similar manner, bey turns into a three year old. Yes, you're a baby. It's very easy to give bey, it's a bitch to take though, eh?
oh yes, youre really hurting my feelings. im just a giant baby.

teach me emotional maturity,

prick.

i dont mind disagreement. i dont mind violent disagreement. in fact i thrive on it. i got modkilled so i could avoid flaming you.

i was actually trying to do the right thing. which is also why i edited out my fuck you comment.

currently, i just dont give a shit.

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 05:21 AM
btw, tomjoe, great call on me being mafia, huh, you master fucking detective you.

I never claimed infallibility or omnipotence. Would make these games sorta pointless if I were.
but you were such a sure cocksucker earlier.

with your theories and your mad skill at the game.

fucktard.

TomJoe
08-10-2006, 05:22 AM
I don't know who pissed in your Cheerios this morning bey, but I'm really surprised at this level of vitriol, over one comment. I mean, you get this bent out of shape over "Boo fucking hoo"? Jimminy Christmas.

Enjoy the rest of your night.

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 05:28 AM
well you have certainly added quite a few more havent you, cocksucker???


and it wasnt the one post it was your whole condescending schtick that set me the fuck off.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 05:37 AM
I hope it didn't appear callous that I immediately modkilled you at your request, bey, I just didn't think it'd be fair to the other players to derail the thread with a discussion about whether you really wanted to die or just walk away and come back tomorrow. I'd do the same to anyone else. As far as I'm concerned the game is for people who want to play (and needless to say, it's only a game!) so anyone who asks to be modkilled will be.

Now take two :chillpill:s and call me in the morning.

Leesifer
08-10-2006, 12:56 PM
:sadcheer:

livius drusus
08-10-2006, 01:15 PM
Buck up, town! It's all in the ebb and flow and whatnot. Chi. Or something. Oh well anyway: :hugs:.

slimshady2357
08-10-2006, 01:19 PM
I'm sort of viewing it like JA said, it's like it's day 2 now and bey was lynched and Spenser was whacked. Of course you can only carry that so far, but it's sorta like that.

We'll see what happens.

:popcorn:

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 01:57 PM
I hope it didn't appear callous that I immediately modkilled you at your request, bey, I just didn't think it'd be fair to the other players to derail the thread with a discussion about whether you really wanted to die or just walk away and come back tomorrow. I'd do the same to anyone else. As far as I'm concerned the game is for people who want to play (and needless to say, it's only a game!) so anyone who asks to be modkilled will be.

Now take two :chillpill:s and call me in the morning.
actually i enjoyed your mod kill of me.

the smiting hand of god and all that.


your post does read a little callous, but since i know you are like the exact opposite of callous, i just found it really amusing instead.

i was also very happy that it happened quickly without debate.

cappuccino
08-10-2006, 02:22 PM
What the hell? You just quit because you didn't like how the game was shifting or over one single comment? Jesus fuck. What's up with you, bey? I was looking forward to at least a good game. Thanks a lot.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 02:25 PM
Read this thread (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9459), capp. If I weren't an Old Testament kinda God I might just ressurrect the guy.

cappuccino
08-10-2006, 02:39 PM
Already did, vm. That was a nice smite though I thought that wasn't really fair to the players to just take him out. But whatever, the game got keep moving.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 02:41 PM
You read his apology thread but are still slamming him here and in the game thread?

cappuccino
08-10-2006, 02:45 PM
There's an apology thread? Sorry, I thought the link you showed me was actually the game thread which I'd already just read when I first got here, so I didn't actually click on it. Besides I was pissed off which I had every right to be.

Apologies or no.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 02:48 PM
I had a feeling you didn't follow my link. :P

cappuccino
08-10-2006, 02:53 PM
:blush: that serves me right.

Kevlar
08-10-2006, 03:18 PM
I had a feeling you didn't follow my link. :P

liv told me that you two could see us FFers through our monitors. I'm beginning to believe her. :chin:

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 03:19 PM
What the hell? You just quit because you didn't like how the game was shifting or over one single comment? Jesus fuck. What's up with you, bey? I was looking forward to at least a good game. Thanks a lot.
i currently cannot explain the sum total of my reasoning, but lets just leave it at that it sucked and i went off. i apologized, loudly and vocally to all interested parties and now i apologize to you.

and the game will probably still be good. nightson, trillian, balluga, tomjoe, joshua adams are all still in it. experienced players to varying degrees who can shift the game one way or the other. and you have a good group of newer players who will attract suspicion and make newbie mistakes, seems like a perfect mix to me. the game isnt fucked, i dont believe.


i felt being modkilled was the fairest thing i could do for the town. at the time i made that request it was so i wouldnt fuck the game up. course, i then had to be an asshole here in the pg thread.

and now im done apologizing.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 03:27 PM
and now im done apologizing.
It's about time. Nobody likes a grovelling pansy.

cappuccino
08-10-2006, 03:30 PM
:giggles:

:pounceglomp: I'm sorry I slammed you in two threads bey, that wasn't cool of me to do that.

Ok, time to play the game and spill scum blood!

beyelzu
08-10-2006, 03:33 PM
and now im done apologizing.
It's about time. Nobody likes a grovelling pansy.
:tmgrin:

no doubt.

Nightson
08-10-2006, 08:40 PM
It's about time. Nobody likes a grovelling pansy.

I like them when they're groveling for their life in front of me. But then again I kill them like ten seconds later so I don't know if I'd geta nnoyed if I had to put up wioth it longer.

Smilin
08-10-2006, 09:07 PM
FUCKIN' LYNCH SOMEBODY ALREADY!
:hairpull:

Jeeze you buncha snot-nosed whiney ass kids already!

WE WANNA SEE BLOOD! WE WANNA SEE VIOLENCE
:gnash:

:wink: :D

TomJoe
08-10-2006, 09:12 PM
I have no problem with locking play over the weekend. I likely won't be here anyways.

livius drusus
08-10-2006, 09:13 PM
Speak for yourself, sir. Judiciousness rulz!1 :cheer:

Nightson
08-10-2006, 09:22 PM
I vote against locking it, I really don't see the point. There might not be much activity, but is that a reason to enforce no activity? I think everyone will take into account that people might not be on much.

Leesifer
08-10-2006, 09:33 PM
I really don't mind either way, vm.

/me sits on the fence.

godfry n. glad
08-10-2006, 09:35 PM
I'm going to join Leesifer on the fence. I don't really care one way or the other.

Crumb
08-10-2006, 09:49 PM
It seems silly to do anything that would slow this game down more.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 10:09 PM
I vote against locking it, I really don't see the point. There might not be much activity, but is that a reason to enforce no activity?
Well the two biggest issues that arose last game were 1. people who were away for the weekend being accused of "laying low" and 2. those same people having 10 pages of posts to read Monday morning. If y'all don't think those are important issues, though, I'm fine with leaving it open.

slimshady2357
08-10-2006, 10:20 PM
I don't really mind either, though my chances to post this weekend will likely be few and far between, especially tomorrow.

But I'm cool with that.

Either way, I'm cool. :relax:

Ensign Steve
08-10-2006, 10:20 PM
I am able to post more on the weekend than during the week, but I am a special case, so feel free to ignore me.

Nightson
08-10-2006, 10:21 PM
I vote against locking it, I really don't see the point. There might not be much activity, but is that a reason to enforce no activity?
Well the two biggest issues that arose last game were 1. people who were away for the weekend being accused of "laying low" and 2. those same people having 10 pages of posts to read Monday morning. If y'all don't think those are important issues, though, I'm fine with leaving it open.

Let them be accused. It shall help to discover those who are searching for any reason to lyncha townie. :yup: As for the ten pages, well, if we're that productive it'll be good, and it will provide the town some nice information.

viscousmemories
08-10-2006, 10:24 PM
Okay, seems like there's more interest in playing than not, so I'll leave it open. :)

Sock Puppet
08-10-2006, 10:36 PM
I don't mind leaving it open, as long as nobody lynches me. That should be an official rule or something.

Smilin
08-10-2006, 10:42 PM
It seems silly to do anything that would slow this game down more.


:lolwat: JeeBus Christus people! LYNCH SOMEBODY ALREADY! :fuming: :yup: :P :D

Ensign Steve
08-10-2006, 10:46 PM
vote: Smilin

:fuming:

Crumb
08-10-2006, 10:46 PM
Vote: The entire cast of Mafia III

Ensign Steve
08-10-2006, 10:47 PM
:glare:

Smilin
08-10-2006, 10:51 PM
:biker2:

balluga
08-10-2006, 11:45 PM
Ok, more work related stuff came up today, i.e. the computer that works as our server stopped working, so I have been mostly off today. The rest of today and tomorrow looks good. Sorry about my absents

beyelzu
08-11-2006, 09:40 PM
for the love of god people, quit shouting that you are a townie in the mafia game, its completely fucking meaningless. if you are the doc, traitor, cop, vigilante, mafia or anything fucking else, you are going to claim towniehood.

that is just how it is.

the more you say it, the guiltier you look. there is just no point in saying it. especially not over and over.

unless you have a serious desire to be lynched.

Leesifer
08-11-2006, 09:43 PM
This game is going on forever. :waiting:

Ensign Steve
08-11-2006, 10:46 PM
for the love of god people, quit shouting that you are a townie in the mafia game, its completely fucking meaningless. if you are the doc, traitor, cop, vigilante, mafia or anything fucking else, you are going to claim towniehood.

that is just how it is.

the more you say it, the guiltier you look. there is just no point in saying it. especially not over and over.

unless you have a serious desire to be lynched.

But I am a townie!

:tmgrin:

livius drusus
08-12-2006, 03:51 PM
Judiciousness rulz!1 :cheer:
I take it back. :rr:

Joshua Adams
08-12-2006, 04:08 PM
vote: livius drusus on a whim.



post number 666.

livius drusus
08-12-2006, 04:22 PM
A vote for me could only be Satanic.

Leesifer
08-12-2006, 04:54 PM
Hey slim! It's your move on poker table I, I believe.

slimshady2357
08-12-2006, 05:01 PM
Hey slim! It's your move on poker table I, I believe.

Thanks! I didn't notice :blush:

Adam
08-12-2006, 05:10 PM
Vote: Lynch someone, dammit!

Crumb
08-12-2006, 05:11 PM
PLEEEEEEEEEASE! :waiting:

slimshady2357
08-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Vote: Lynch someone, dammit!

Sou says "But you haven't voted you bugger!"

:mocking:

(and she says hurry up and vote!)

Joshua Adams
08-12-2006, 07:40 PM
:loseit:

viscousmemories
08-12-2006, 07:54 PM
NOTICE! NOTICE!

Although I'm traditionally a non-interventionist deity, I feel compelled to intervene.

If the town is unable to raise 8 votes to lynch a given player by 6:00 CST Monday evening, whomever has the most votes against them will be lynched.

Then it will be nightfall and the gameplay should proceed as normal, however I will intervene again (and much sooner) if it looks like another stalemate is cropping up. I'm only letting it go until Monday night at this point since some people aren't around much on the weekends.

I'm sorry to do this but at this rate I don't see anyone getting lynched anytime soon, and since y'all really don't have any more reliable evidence of anyone's guilt or innocence than you had 350 posts ago the only thing really happening that it's becoming more and more difficult for everyone to parse the information that is available, and people (including me!) are losing interest in the game.

NOTICE! NOTICE!

Leesifer
08-12-2006, 07:55 PM
I love you, vm. Truly. :kisscheek:

Joshua Adams
08-12-2006, 07:58 PM
I wish it was sooner. Like tonight at 6:00. But I guess Monday's fair for the stated reasons.

Good work, vm. I hadn't even thought of suggesting this.

livius drusus
08-12-2006, 08:02 PM
Yet again, the bear sleeps for vm today.

All hail vm! All hai... zzzzz
:bow4:

Joshua Adams
08-12-2006, 08:06 PM
You people are thinking things way to muchNonsense.

Now. vm mentioned 350 posts ago; could there be any numerological significance to that? If you ignore the zero (which isn't a significant figure) and then transpose the 3 and the 5, you will get 53, which "coincidentally" is Leesifer's userid!

unvote livius drusus; vote: Leesifer

Leesifer
08-12-2006, 08:10 PM
:caught:

viscousmemories
08-12-2006, 08:11 PM
:laugh:

I wish it was sooner. Like tonight at 6:00.
Yeah, I originally thought to make the deadline tomorrow afternoon, but after having tossed around the suggestion of closing the thread for the weekend I thought doing so would be unfair to anyone who didn't expect much to happen. Besides, by Monday night it'll be a few hours short of a solid week. The perfect length of a day. :giggle:

viscousmemories
08-12-2006, 08:13 PM
And can I just point out how absurdly difficult it is to incite a mob of rationalists to violence?

godfry n. glad
08-12-2006, 09:35 PM
Man... Threats of divine intervention...

vm is becoming more Hebraic by the day. :giggle:

"Dang me, dang me....They oughta take a rope an hang me. High from the highest tree....oh, woman won't you wait for me?" ~ Roger Miller.

I personally like this group. These are people who don't like the idea of a mob hanging an innocent. I can get with that. They aren't easily stampeded, either. I note that there are those who wish for a lynching, but when it comes to them...well, they're not willing to be the sacrifice. By this time, that could be a townie issue as well as a mafia one.

Oh....vm? If the traitor is lynched, will everyone know that? And...Do the mafioso know who the traitor is?

viscousmemories
08-12-2006, 11:20 PM
I'm just going to use your post as a jumping off point for stuff I've been wanting to post about since the last game, so don't think I'm blowing what you said all out of proportion and if I'm stating anything too terribly obvious feel free to ignore.

I personally like this group. These are people who don't like the idea of a mob hanging an innocent. I can get with that.
I can get with that too, in real life or in a game where the objective is to create an online model of a utopian society*. But that's not what this game is about. This is a role playing game, the object of which is for a bunch of citizens to take the law into their own hands and kill the mafia scum who've invaded their town. Fundamental to the game is acting a part - of a bloodthirsty townie, a sinister mafioso, etc.

I think a few people are new to role playing games and don't realize that there's no shame in being a low-down, dirty, lying, sneaky, back-stabbing miscreant when that's the role you've been assigned to play. It's acting! That's the whole point.

Playing "Mafia" with a bunch of people who are squeamish about taking an innocent life is rather like playing "Risk" with a group of anarchists, or "Monopoly" with socialists. If they're not down with taking over the world or hoarding wealth (respectively) that's all well and good for them, but then they're just missing the point of the game.

/end rant.

Oh....vm? If the traitor is lynched, will everyone know that? And...Do the mafioso know who the traitor is?
Yep, I'll reveal the role of anyone who dies in any fashion (though I won't tell you who did the killing - not knowing if it was the mafia, vigilante or traitor who did the killing is a necessary contribution to the challenge of the game imo).

The traitor knows who the mafia are, but not vice versa.



*Which as an aside is something a guy named David Galiel was once working on (http://piecorp.org/) - not sure if he still is - that is a really fascinating concept to me.

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 10:24 AM
I cant believe godfry claimed so early. damn, he should have waited. it doesnt look good for the town.

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 01:09 PM
Well, he was probably going to get axed--assuming that about 2 or 3 people abided by the system, and the remainder didn't cluster around someone else. Still, it does suck for the town, losing the doctor again. The only thing that could be worse is if our next target is also a special.

The way things are going, the night roles are going to take 2 or 3 days to decide on their targets.

livius drusus
08-14-2006, 01:14 PM
Goes to show how much all that tallying and numbercrunching is worth at this point in the game: ie, precisely nothing at best, materially damaging to the town at worst.

cappuccino
08-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Precisely, liv.

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 02:13 PM
I don't think that conclusion is warranted by the current situation, since godfry wasn't really indicted on any grounds related to "tallying and numbercrunching." I still don't know why everyone was so suspicious of him.

livius drusus
08-14-2006, 02:19 PM
He was indicted on suspect tallying grounds, which is why he felt compelled to roleclaim despite not having the most votes against him on the first day. I'm surprised he held out as long as he did, poor guy, considering how overwhelmingly the numbers pointed at him.

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 02:24 PM
Oh, I thought you were talking about going through the vote tallies in order to cull evidence against someone.

Julie
08-14-2006, 04:25 PM
oh thank dog we finally made it to first nightfall....but at the expence of the doctor...This game is well on its journey to hell in a handbasket.

Nightson was high up on my list anyways, I really hope you are scum Nighson, or this game is going to be even harder!

Leesifer
08-14-2006, 04:29 PM
Yeah, what Julie said.

Still :happydance: that it's nightfall.

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 04:33 PM
i dunno, nightson seemed kind of copish to me and since he has been away for twenty four hours he never had a chance to claim, did no one notice that? why even throw the last vote, nightfall would have come anyway later to day as per vm's ruling?

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 04:40 PM
Probably impatience. It's a good 7 hours until the forced Nightfall.

Still, it's true we should have let him claim. I was wondering earlier, when he had about 3-4 votes, if he'd get on in time. The town is fucked, fucked, fucked if he was the cop.

Sock Puppet
08-14-2006, 04:44 PM
Shit, I didn't even think about checking whether Nightson had been on to answer the bandwagon. We are indeed fucked if he's the cop.

Leesifer
08-14-2006, 05:00 PM
I think he's actually away until Tuesday.

Soubrette
08-14-2006, 05:03 PM
Goes to show how much all that tallying and numbercrunching is worth at this point in the game: ie, precisely nothing at best, materially damaging to the town at worst.

I've been avidly watching these mafia games - very addictive :yup:

You could say the same about any kind of method of choosing the first few victims Liv - be it random or based on tells. Everyone agrees that at the start of a game there's pretty much zero to go on. I think this bunch of gamesters are all too nice to lynch someone who they don't know for sure is a mafia so number crunching is as good as any to put a bit of a fire under them.

And there is some interesting evidence for people who are interested - who is joining bandwagons? Who is voting similar patterns to whom? What excuses are people coming up with when asked. I've got my eye on a couple of people :glare:.

It's bad news that Godfrey is the doc but it's happened before when the poor old cop was the first to bite the bullet. And poor old Nightson is almost certainly a townie from a statistical point of view. (My sweety is pointing out that a 25% chance is not an almost certainty but I think the fact that 4 people are not wanting to vote for a mafia and ARE wanting to vote a townie makes it almost certain Nightson is a townie)

Fingers crossed he's not the cop :eek:

Good luck townies, you can do it this time.

Sou

livius drusus
08-14-2006, 05:04 PM
Holy shit! :faint:

Me :rarrow: :pounceglomp: :larrow: Sou

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 05:09 PM
Goes to show how much all that tallying and numbercrunching is worth at this point in the game: ie, precisely nothing at best, materially damaging to the town at worst.

I've been avidly watching these mafia games - very addictive :yup:

You could say the same about any kind of method of choosing the first few victims Liv - be it random or based on tells. Everyone agrees that at the start of a game there's pretty much zero to go on. I think this bunch of gamesters are all too nice to lynch someone who they don't know for sure is a mafia so number crunching is as good as any to put a bit of a fire under them.

And there is some interesting evidence for people who are interested - who is joining bandwagons? Who is voting similar patterns to whom? What excuses are people coming up with when asked. I've got my eye on a couple of people :glare:.

It's bad news that Godfrey is the doc but it's happened before when the poor old cop was the first to bite the bullet. And poor old Nightson is almost certainly a townie from a statistical point of view. (My sweety is pointing out that a 25% chance is not an almost certainty but I think the fact that 4 people are not wanting to vote for a mafia and ARE wanting to vote a townie makes it almost certain Nightson is a townie)

Fingers crossed he's not the cop :eek:

Good luck townies, you can do it this time.

Sou

so you going to sign up for mafia IV?

come on, i cant wait to see you in action. also, i just wanted to say, the townies are fubarred, imho. if i hadnt flamed out, maybe i could have helped.

damn me.


:tmgrin:

Soubrette
08-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Ooooh you sweetie/y :D

I was just going to edit to add that btw I have no idea of slim is scum or townie - it makes it more interesting to me but I don't want to give anyone any idea that they can look to me for tells.

I may sign up for a mafia thread soon Bey but I'm watching and analysing the games at the moment. In the first one I was 100% sure Legs was mafia :blush:

And I've been watching y'all anyway so you don't have to greet me like the prodigal son ;) I'm more like a stalker who has some time on her hands :yup:

Sou

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Ooooh you sweetie/y :D

I was just going to edit to add that btw I have no idea of slim is scum or townie - it makes it more interesting to me but I don't want to give anyone any idea that they can look to me for tells.

I may sign up for a mafia thread soon Bey but I'm watching and analysing the games at the moment. In the first one I was 100% sure Legs was mafia :blush:

so was i and it cost us the game. far too many assertions of towniehood. the deadwood mafia game probably wont start till later this week or first part of next week.

/me applies peer pressure.

you know you want to get in on the fun. :tmgrin:


And I've been watching y'all anyway so you don't have to greet me like the prodigal son ;) I'm more like a stalker who has some time on her hands :yup:

Sou

but youre such a friendly stalker. :tmtongue: and thus get the prodigal son treatment.

livius drusus
08-14-2006, 05:35 PM
I've been avidly watching these mafia games - very addictive :yup:

Thanks a lot. Now I owe bey my everlasting gratitude for bringing the mob to FF. :darn:

You could say the same about any kind of method of choosing the first few victims Liv - be it random or based on tells. Everyone agrees that at the start of a game there's pretty much zero to go on. I think this bunch of gamesters are all too nice to lynch someone who they don't know for sure is a mafia so number crunching is as good as any to put a bit of a fire under them.

I don't think it did light a fire under them, though. In fact, I'd say the number crunching and tallying of suspects added far more noise than signal, and is a large part of the reason this first day took a week only to end with the same kind of hasty lynching they could easily have drummed up 6 days ago.

The ultimate aim of all townies should be to increase their paltry odds of survival. Scouring voting patterns and suspect lists on the first day when, as you note, it's all pretty much random anyway, is fooling yourself, I think. I say look at who's playing how and if you think they're a drain on the town, or manipulative, or chaotic, or distracting, then hang them from the nearest tree and apologize later.

Besides, I've played with many of these gamesters before and they ain't that nice. :gamebutt:

And there is some interesting evidence for people who are interested - who is joining bandwagons? Who is voting similar patterns to whom? What excuses are people coming up with when asked. I've got my eye on a couple of people :glare:.

Ah, intriguing. Will you post the evidence and your thoughts on it once the people in question are dead? I'm fascinated by this kind of stuff and would love to hear your analyses. :hellyes:

It's bad news that Godfrey is the doc but it's happened before when the poor old cop was the first to bite the bullet.

At least he gets to protect one person tonight. (I think doc is first on the list of nightime actions, but I'm too lazy to look up vm's post on the order of events.)

And poor old Nightson is almost certainly a townie from a statistical point of view. (My sweety is pointing out that a 25% chance is not an almost certainty but I think the fact that 4 people are not wanting to vote for a mafia and ARE wanting to vote a townie makes it almost certain Nightson is a townie)

:sadnod:

Good luck townies, you can do it this time.

:cheer:

trillian
08-14-2006, 05:43 PM
We waited a week for day one to end but no one waitied a bit longer for Nightson to claim or not? lol, too funny (and so sad if he was the cop!).

I'm not too sure I'd have the patience to wait though if he really is gone til Tuesday.

Sock Puppet
08-14-2006, 06:13 PM
Well, if he really is gone until Tuesday, then Nightfall would've happened in his absence, anyway.

Now, if anybody needs me, I'll be under that rock over there. :rock2:

:d'oh:

Soubrette
08-14-2006, 06:20 PM
I might post my thoughts when people are dead, although anything I say about why I suspected someone or not might just change scum behaviour in the future. How about you fessing up on how you nobbled two mafia so quickly in the second game? :mindblow:

My general thoughts are that what people say is always plausible (or not if you already suspect them) so actions speak louder than words. Scouring voting patterns to decide who to vote for at the beginning is pretty much pointless but scouring voting patterns so that you can keep an eye on the overall patterns emerging through out the game - probably a good idea. Keep an eye on those who not only join band wagons but also start them - particularly if they've been told they are probably townies by a few people. Hope for a huge dollop of luck!

:P

Sou

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 06:20 PM
sure or yall could have waited till nightfall which is only a few hours away in case someone wanted to put forth another suspect.

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 06:22 PM
I might post my thoughts when people are dead, although anything I say about why I suspected someone or not might just change scum behaviour in the future. How about you fessing up on how you nobbled two mafia so quickly in the second game? :mindblow:

My general thoughts are that what people say is always plausible (or not if you already suspect them) so actions speak louder than words. Scouring voting patterns to decide who to vote for at the beginning is pretty much pointless but scouring voting patterns so that you can keep an eye on the overall patterns emerging through out the game - probably a good idea. Keep an eye on those who not only join band wagons but also start them - particularly if they've been told they are probably townies by a few people. Hope for a huge dollop of luck!

:P

Sou

mafia lie, they have to, and since they do they use artificial sentence construction or the tone of their posts change from what you are used to.

unfortunately, docs, cops, and vigis also lie so sometimes you get the feel of someone and they turn out to be a good special. or at least that is how it is for me.

Sock Puppet
08-14-2006, 06:26 PM
sure or yall could have waited till nightfall which is only a few hours away in case someone wanted to put forth another suspect.
Hence the rock I'm under. I'm really frustrated with my performance in these damned games. When I'm out of them, I generally can figure out who the mafia are, before the last couple days, anyway. But it seems like I can't make a right move to save my life while I'm actually in it.

Soubrette
08-14-2006, 06:31 PM
mafia lie, they have to, and since they do they use artificial sentence construction or the tone of their posts change from what you are used to.

unfortunately, docs, cops, and vigis also lie so sometimes you get the feel of someone and they turn out to be a good special. or at least that is how it is for me.

Good point - maybe I'd better study that idea some more before I sign up for anything :innocent:

Sou

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 06:33 PM
nah, jump in and give us hell, didnt you notice me applying the peer pressure earlier. watching mafia is fun, playing mafia is scary as hell and fun.

:tmgrin:

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 07:07 PM
At any rate, where the fook is Yahweh there? :waiting:

MonCapitan2002
08-14-2006, 07:18 PM
Poor godfrey. :cry: We aren't going to have a doctor.

MonCapitan2002
08-14-2006, 07:26 PM
I just realised that there can be as many as three kills tonight. The mafia get one kill. The traitor gets another and the vigilante can kill as well.

viscousmemories
08-14-2006, 08:29 PM
IMPORTANT NOTICE:

Since day 1 took a leeetle bit longer than expected and I'm going to be working full-time this week, the illustrious livius drusus has graciously volunteered to take over the GM responsibilities for this game.

It's been a pleasure being your deity. Thank you and goodnight.

If you have a special role, contact livius with your night action even if you've already contacted me.

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 08:33 PM
nice liv, promoted from bystander to diety. sweet.

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 08:56 PM
Bastard couldn't even post the lynch scene. We know you've had it written for days! :stab:

MonCapitan2002
08-14-2006, 09:01 PM
So liv is god now?

Sock Puppet
08-14-2006, 09:04 PM
Now? [/suckup]

godfry n. glad
08-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Hmmm...even though there may not be other gods before him, there may be those after.

Interesting.

livius drusus
08-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Good one, Sock. Okay, you slow-ass bastards. I haven't exactly been following the game thread closely these past 10 months or however long it's been since the first day dawned, so give me a sec to catch up, get all the night activities done and scare up something that can even begin to do vm's narrations justice.

godfry n. glad
08-14-2006, 09:52 PM
Just what we need... a snide deity.

Ensign Steve
08-14-2006, 10:22 PM
I missed it! :shakefist: Damn you, work!

MonCapitan2002
08-14-2006, 10:56 PM
So Nightson was an innocent townie. You meanies killed him! :glare:

Crumb
08-14-2006, 11:02 PM
:shrug: It's the way the game works, buddy.

godfry n. glad
08-14-2006, 11:03 PM
I think what Sock had to say was interesting, but not germane. The mafia has, as yet, not had any opportunity to interact and coordinate any strategy. There's a lot of guessing going on on their part. After first night you can expect more strategy.

Also, the mafia don't know who the traitor is.

beyelzu
08-14-2006, 11:11 PM
great scene liv, you sure are getting me excited for the deadwood themed one.

so you guys that were so quick to lynch the townie just jump aboard a bandwagon. throw that last vote without thinking, are you going to let people claim next time so you dont have to suffer waiting, hoping you didnt kill the cop :tmgrin:

Joshua Adams
08-14-2006, 11:23 PM
Isn't it impossible for him to have claimed? Someone said he's gone till tomorrow, and the day was going to end anyway right about now, give or take.

At least he wasn't the frickin' cop. :glare: Now we're only fucked, fucked, rather than fucked, fucked, fucked.

Also vote: Crumb because he seems so callously indifferent to the plight of townies, he must not be one of them, and that clearly implies that he is mafia.

Sock Puppet
08-14-2006, 11:27 PM
so you guys that were so quick to lynch the townie just jump aboard a bandwagon. throw that last vote without thinking, are you going to let people claim next time so you dont have to suffer waiting, hoping you didnt kill the cop
Thanks, bey. I already said I fucked up. Several times.

godfry n. glad
08-14-2006, 11:47 PM
I'm eager to see if Joshua does his charting on the voting since the Beyelzu debacle. Now we all have preference lists for each other.

livius drusus
08-14-2006, 11:51 PM
Sorry about the execution kinda deal there, godfry. :manhug:

godfry n. glad
08-15-2006, 12:00 AM
Hey...it was quick. It was merciful.

And it was in the oaks. Thank you, goddess.

livius drusus
08-15-2006, 12:01 AM
You noticed! :vibes:

godfry n. glad
08-15-2006, 12:06 AM
But of course! I not-so-humbly think of it as my "golden bough" moment.

godfry n. glad
08-15-2006, 12:08 AM
Y'know... I think this game would have more interest if the cop and the doctor knew each other.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 12:28 AM
so you guys that were so quick to lynch the townie just jump aboard a bandwagon. throw that last vote without thinking, are you going to let people claim next time so you dont have to suffer waiting, hoping you didnt kill the cop
Thanks, bey. I already said I fucked up. Several times.
sorry not just you man. i think everyone was too quick on this last day. especially when vm said that it wouldnt take a majority to lynch anyone today. also i think whoever cast the next to last vote also has some splainen to do.

sorry if you think i am just fucking with you. but i just think its an object lesson is all.

godfry n. glad
08-15-2006, 12:32 AM
Dognamit, bub...

They had two prior chances, three, counting me, to pick right and they nearly screwed each one. Hell, I started the first one. The ability of the townie mob to pick correctly has yet to be demonstrated.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 12:33 AM
Y'know... I think this game would have more interest if the cop and the doctor knew each other.
too powerful in a general way the doc could keep protection on the cop half the time, also especially in smaller games, each person being able to rule out one other person is a decided advantage.

still in larger games it might not be a bad idea. keep in mind though that if the doc comes undersuspicion and the cop protects them from the lynch, it just spells disaster for the cop. or vice versa.

on the first day without an investigation players defending eachother is relatively innocuous. with cop and doc knowing each other, anyone defending any player would probably get killed by the mob that night.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 12:34 AM
Dognamit, bub...

They had two prior chances, three, counting me, to pick right and they nearly screwed each one. Hell, I started the first one. The ability of the townie mob to pick correctly has yet to be demonstrated.
i maintain that is indeed possible to pick mafia early and often. like liv did last game. furthemore there is still the cop out there, we dont know who he or she is investigating right now.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 12:36 AM
also that game, i was going to kill trill the night i was converted but changed my mind cuz i didnt want to go around killing experienced players right off the back. turns out to be a good play since i became evil. :)

livius drusus
08-15-2006, 12:38 AM
Yeah, but by then you had already ganked the doctor and a townie, both of whom were n00bs. ;P

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 12:39 AM
trill would have been my third hit though.

plus widget was making me awful suspicious what with him hiding being the doc and all.

:tmgrin:

godfry n. glad
08-15-2006, 12:45 AM
Okay.

What about the one kill versus three night?

Traitor only gets one kill a game. Is there any reason for traitor to act this soon in the game? I would think that traitor's vote would be following around the various mafia votes. They don't know traitor is there, or, if they do, they don't know who it is. He's not in on the mafia deliberations. They can't really direct him to do anything.

Vigilante could well have restrained his/her hand. This game has only two vigilante kills, rather than one every night. It's worth it to wait and hope not to be selected out for lynching. Wait until you have better founded information or cop info. But there's only been one investigation. As long as cop isn't strung up by the crowd, s/he'll only know about one player now, and two if cop survives the night. There's four bad guys out there, and if he investigates a townie, that doesn't help much, except to rule one out of a crowd (information, which when released last game, guaranteed the wack of that player).

Traitor or Vigilante could have selected the player the doctor protected before he was snuffed out.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 12:54 AM
unless the rules have changed nothing stops the vigi/loonie hit and the way i read traitor nothing would stop it.

doc stops the mob kill.


it is possible the traitor decided to kill you and the mafia did, this however seems unlikely to me, unless the traitor is a noob or wasnt thinking about it.

hmm...

livius drusus
08-15-2006, 12:59 AM
Hello, God here. Traitor hits count as mob hits. My thinking (which was originally vm's thinking) is that there are only two sides here, and traitor is on the mafia one. The doctor protects from the mafia side's kills, not just the ones from the guys called mafia.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 01:04 AM
then should i also assume that traitor counts as mob when deciding mob victory?

so if there are eight players left and the mafia and traitor are still alive do the mafia win?

godfry n. glad
08-15-2006, 01:08 AM
I would think that the doctor could protect from all kills, even the vigilante's. My understanding is that he chooses to protect one person each night from being killed. He can't protect anyone from lynching and he doesn't know who is mafia, vigilante or traitor. I'm clear that he could mistakenly select a mafia person to protect.

livius drusus
08-15-2006, 01:09 AM
so if there are eight players left and the mafia and traitor are still alive do the mafia win?

Yessir.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 01:12 AM
yeah but godfry, if the doc accidentally protects a mafia from the vigi hit. the mafia just dont need that much of an advantage, imho.

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 01:13 AM
so if there are eight players left and the mafia and traitor are still alive do the mafia win?

Yessir.
thank you, i had assumed that it wouldnt be that way. i figured the traitor was like the witch in ww who counts as a townie although she or he plays for evils victory iirc.

livius drusus
08-15-2006, 01:16 AM
Ah, interesting. I can see that. The roles in this game were designed to give the town a little somethin' somethin' it doesn't get with a 4 person mafia game, so they may not quite jibe with more traditional versions.

wei yau
08-15-2006, 03:51 PM
Very nice gm debut, liv. Very nice, indeed.

Having just re-familiarized myself with the opening scene of Deadwood Season 1, I really liked Nightson's lynching. Hmmm, that didn't come out quite right, but I'm sure you get my meaning.

Poor godfry. While touching that he would die in his beloved woods, the imagery of him as a boy was a little heartbreaking.

Now, townies, get on with the lynching. Blood for the Blood God!

Nightson
08-15-2006, 10:52 PM
Quicklynched again :fuming: . I command everyone to vote for NC Kev so I can find out whether he's really scum, I wanna know.

(Camping was wonderful btw)

beyelzu
08-15-2006, 10:54 PM
glad you had a good camp, sorry you were lynched.

Soubrette
08-16-2006, 12:00 AM
Poor Nightson :( Still your sad demise did end a bloody long day :) And gave at least some info for people to work on. Let's hope they don't spend a week cogitating on it though :eek:

Townies - don't forget that your vote is your weapon - don't just vote for the people you think are the mafia - vote for people to put pressure on other people, vote for people to see who else does or doesn't vote for them. Have your suspicions but try to investigate rather than blurt them :wink: You can always unvote them (and trust no one who says this is a mafia tell :whup: )

And never forget, even an innocent townie getting wacked gives information, even the dead townies win if the town lynches the scum :cheer:

Oh it's so easy from the outside :P

Liv - trillian has unvoted btw - you've posted the new votes and she must have squeaked in before you :)

livius drusus
08-16-2006, 12:02 AM
Those squeakers will get ya every time. :shakefist:

beyelzu
08-16-2006, 02:24 PM
interesting day two so far guys, lots of suspicion, multiple bandwagons, good times.

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 02:55 PM
Quicklynched again :fuming: . I command everyone to vote for NC Kev so I can find out whether he's really scum, I wanna know.

(Camping was wonderful btw)
:boohoo:

BTW, sorry about thinking you were scum, and all that...


How's your neck? Rope leaves such a rash!

wei yau
08-16-2006, 06:31 PM
Wow, the game got really tense and exciting.

I have no idea what's going on, though I have some suspicions. I'm looking forward to seeing how this day turns out.

Soubrette
08-16-2006, 07:12 PM
For all who are not clear - slimshady and I share a computer and we're both trying to do two things at once. As the mafia game is tense and exciting proper care and attention is not being paid as to who'd logged on or off.

You can apologise to me any time you want TomJoe - I do not appreciate being spoken to like that - you may however swear at slimshady if you wish :fuming: :fuming: :fuming:

Sou

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 07:13 PM
I will not apologize. It happened twice.

Pay attention to where you are. Sheesh.

slimshady2357
08-16-2006, 07:17 PM
I will not apologize. It happened twice.

Pay attention to where you are. Sheesh.

She does, it's me that doesn't.

So don't make it look like you're telling her off, tell me.

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 07:18 PM
I will not apologize. It happened twice.

Pay attention to where you are. Sheesh.

She does, it's me that doesn't.

So don't make it look like you're telling her off, tell me.

Ok Sou, I apologize.

Slim, watch what the fuck you're doing. Shit, things are confusing enough in there.

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 07:25 PM
This game is making my head hurt. :headache:

curses
08-16-2006, 07:34 PM
I am SOOO glad I'm not playing this round.

Smilin
08-16-2006, 07:35 PM
/me gives Lees a good gromping to cure her headache! :gromp:

wei yau
08-16-2006, 07:43 PM
Echo minus.

This round escalated quick. From a seemingly eternal first day to a fast moving all-out throwdown on the second day. I keep waiting for the town mailman to go postal and just starting killing everyone in the town hall.

It's a pressure-cooker, alright.

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 07:44 PM
Thanks Smilin. I feel better already.

We need a vote count. liv are you here?

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 07:44 PM
I see godfry reading this thread ...

I'm sorry doc!

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 07:50 PM
...

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 07:52 PM
We better not get deadlocked again for like a year. :brooding:

Edit: Ah that was quick.

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 07:53 PM
Well, that was a much better (and quicker) second day.

:waiting:

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 07:55 PM
:sweaty:

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 07:56 PM
deleted, just to appease TomJoe

wei yau
08-16-2006, 07:56 PM
:eager:

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 07:58 PM
...

balluga
08-16-2006, 07:58 PM
I really cannot believe that it took that long. I guess that people were not seeing the same things that I was. About 150 posts in three hours, what a workout. Now I can go back to lurking in the thread.

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 07:59 PM
Can't the liar fess up now? Or is it more fun to wait for the lynch scene?

:hyper:

cappuccino
08-16-2006, 07:59 PM
Whew, the 2nd day was certainly so much more exciting than the previous day. :dizzy2:

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 08:00 PM
As much as I'd like them to fess up here, we should really wait for the lynch scene.

:wriggle:

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 08:00 PM
deleted, even though it says nothing I didn't already say in the game thread

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 08:01 PM
BTW, I noticed your megaphone-like cop tells, balluga. I'm sure other people did too, but they had no motive to say anything.

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 08:01 PM
Whoa, I'm just trying to think about all the scenarios here.

1. capp is cop, Tom is townie.
2. capp is cop, Tom is mafia.
3. capp is townie, Tom is townie.
4. capp is townie, Tom is cop.
5. capp is townie, Tom is mafia.
6. capp is mafia, Tom is townie.
7. capp is mafia, Tom is cop.

I just hope to god, one of those guys is scum.

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 08:05 PM
Uh, I'm pretty sure we can rule out everything except

capp is cop, Tom is mafia
capp is mafia, Tom is cop

I mean you might as well throw in "both are mafia" if you're looking at all the implausible scenarios.

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 08:07 PM
...

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 08:09 PM
deleted response to TJ's deleted post

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 08:09 PM
....

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 08:10 PM
...

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 08:10 PM
As a matter of fact, TJ's post sounds like gameplay to me. Foul!

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Yep. No game play here guys.

Crumb
08-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Is this (poor) game play in the Peanut Gallery? The game does not get played during nightfall folks. :copno:

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 08:14 PM
Yep. No game play here guys.

That goes for fucking Sock Puppet too. Given what was said in the game thread, post #176 sure as hell looks like game play to me!

As a matter of fact, I think all game players should stay the hell out of this thread.

Smilin
08-16-2006, 08:15 PM
sOOOO would the REAL COP...PLEASE stand up! :mocking: :lolwat: :cyborg:

This has certainly been entertaining!

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 08:16 PM
Uh, I'm pretty sure we can rule out everything except

capp is cop, Tom is mafia
capp is mafia, Tom is cop

I mean you might as well throw in "both are mafia" if you're looking at all the implausible scenarios.

Well now, the other scenarios aren't quite as impossible as both of them being maifa. There is a very good chance that one of them has lied about being the cop.

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 08:16 PM
I just reiterated what I'd already said in the thread, and held the same position as I did there, Tom. You offered new information. I've deleted my responding post.

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 08:18 PM
I just reiterated what I'd already said in the thread, Tom.

And you were playing in that thread. Seems like six of one, half dozen of the other to me.

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 08:19 PM
Ok, liv, there will be mayhem soon if you don't hook us up.

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 08:24 PM
And you were playing in that thread. Seems like six of one, half dozen of the other to me.
Sweet flaming fucknuggets. You just can't stop arguing, can you? I contend that holding the same position already espoused in the game thread, without adding any new arguments, is not gameplay. But I deleted the fucking post anyway.

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 08:24 PM
My reasoning is like this. Vm is like the Hebrew god, smiting people left and right. Right now we are in the New Testament if you will. So liv should be serving us hand and foot.

:glare:

wei yau
08-16-2006, 08:26 PM
The colorful language and general orneriness in this and the game thread makes for promising gameplay in the upcoming Deadwood mafia.

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 08:27 PM
What's your problem TomJoe? Please read that I posted the word guys plural.

Fuck me, get a grip will you?

And this thread is for anybody to comment on the game. Game being the operative word here.

Crumb
08-16-2006, 08:27 PM
I think certain individuals are taking this game a bit too seriously... :tiptoe:

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 08:28 PM
I contend that holding the same position already espoused in the game thread, without adding any new arguments, is not gameplay.

Good for you. I contend it is. I'm happy with liv deciding. Personally, after this debacle, I think it best if we were all banned from the Peanut Gallery. Why? Because we're participants. The peanut gallery should be for people who are watching, but not participating.

But I deleted the fucking post anyway. Thank you.

livius drusus
08-16-2006, 08:32 PM
Oy vey is mir. (Pardon. Got a little old testament there.) I apologize for my horrendously untimely absence. It was unavoidable.

Discussing your reasoning for any given move is game play, even if it's old news, so thank you Sock and TomJoe for your edits.

Now for the reveal.

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 08:33 PM
:wriggle:

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 08:35 PM
Oy vey is mir. (Pardon. Got a little old testament there.) I apologize for my horrendously untimely absence. It was unavoidable.

Discussing your reasoning for any given move is game play, even if it's old news, so thank you Sock and TomJoe for your edits.

Now for the reveal.

:scaredbaby:

Smilin
08-16-2006, 08:37 PM
What's your problem TomJoe? Please read that I posted the word guys plural.

Fuck me, get a grip will you?

:whistles: :D :wave: :popcorn:

Adam
08-16-2006, 08:40 PM
Jesus H. Sorry, guys, it's been a hell meetign day here, and every time I have a break to sit at my desk, it takes me so long to ctach up that I have to be at another meeting before I can contribute.

Kevlar
08-16-2006, 08:44 PM
capp! you dirty bastard!

Smilin
08-16-2006, 08:44 PM
Good job guys! WAY TO GO!

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 08:45 PM
OMG! cappuccino, you dirty, lying, cheating mafia scum!

Screw you guys I'm going home!
:cartman:

ETA: liv, that was great!

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 08:45 PM
:hyper: nice scene liv!

cappuccino
08-16-2006, 08:45 PM
:innocent2:

Well you guys got me. :giggle:

If I'm going down, I'm not going down without fighting like a dirty mafioso I am. Actually I'm glad I'm not in the game anymore, it's really tiring playing an evil character, especially for more than a week. Lying doesn't come naturally to me.

Julie
08-16-2006, 08:46 PM
YEah we lynched a mafia!!!!!!!!

*does happy dance*

WE lynched a mafia! We lynched a mafia!

livius drusus
08-16-2006, 08:49 PM
Thanks, Joshua. I had to scare it up right quick so before anyone tells me, yes, I'm sure it's riddled with typos. Thankfully the thread itself suggested capp's cause of death. ;)

cappuccino
08-16-2006, 08:53 PM
You guys should all thank me for making your 2nd day whole damn more exciting and :mindblow: for you.

:bowing: My :mafioso: brothers shall make a quick work of you pathetic townies.

balluga
08-16-2006, 08:55 PM
Well, I think that the next few days will go by rather quickly now.

wei yau
08-16-2006, 08:56 PM
Wonderfully written, liv.

Pretty ballsy move to delcare yourself as cop, capp. Though you died a pretty horrendous death, I salute you for your gameplay!

:salute:

godfry n. glad
08-16-2006, 08:59 PM
Good job, townies!

Now...Comes the work. Our vigilante should be going through all the votes and trying to see if there is a pattern which would support capp's "associations". Who did he act to protect? Who did he go after? Did he vote for somebody and then switch? Did he try to protect Leesifer, or not?

ETA: I'm the cop. And I know Leesifer's a townie because I viewed her last night and she's innocent. Not a traitor, nada, nothing. Sorry guys.

Unless TomJoe is a really devious mafioso who would allow (and encourage others to persecute) one of his own to go down, to cover he and his other associates, he's a townie.

The cop gets to do another investigation, too.

viscousmemories
08-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Personally, after this debacle, I think it best if we were all banned from the Peanut Gallery.
I considered implementing a rule that players can't post here during nightfall, but I agree that it'd be best if players were restricted from posting here at all. There's just too much gray area around what constitutes 'playing', imho.

Soubrette
08-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Ok Sou, I apologize.



No problem - I understand it's tense out there :egad:

In fact slimshady and I are arguing like cat and dog which is probably why I was a bit pissy myself :)

Go townies, go :cheer:

And if I can just be smug enough to say that I predicted that TomJoe would come out as the cop when he said he had something to say if he gets to 6 votes. :pleased: (slimshady can attest to this)

Sou

livius drusus
08-16-2006, 09:09 PM
I agree that it can be a difficult call, but otoh, it would suck for players not to have a place where they can :phew: and :shakefist: at the end of the day.

wei yau
08-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Gotta agree with liv, given the pressures involved in the game thread, I'd hate to see one of the players end up like this guy:

:explode:

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 09:19 PM
Personally, after this debacle, I think it best if we were all banned from the Peanut Gallery. Why? Because we're participants. The peanut gallery should be for people who are watching, but not participating.
Whatever our gms decide. It doesn't seem worth arguing about at this point.

Joshua Adams
08-16-2006, 09:20 PM
BTW, propers go to beyelzu for picking the scum so long ago!

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 09:21 PM
Did he? Blimey.

/me goes off to check the thread again.

TomJoe
08-16-2006, 09:22 PM
BTW, propers go to beyelzu for picking the scum so long ago!

Indeed. Sorry bey.

I'm not too excited about catching capp. He was the weak link allowing himself to get caught so early. We won the battle, but will it cost us the war? At least it probably buys the town another day.

Soubrette
08-16-2006, 09:31 PM
Oh and thanks for getting that scenario up so quickly liv - even though certain people still refuse to accept my theories on the game :fuming:

:wink:

Sou

livius drusus
08-16-2006, 09:36 PM
When will they learn? :sadno:

Adam
08-16-2006, 09:55 PM
Oh, and you people need to clean up your voting habits. My thread parser missed a "voteTomJoe" and an "I vote TomJoe" the last time I ran it. It's Vote: scum, people! :tmtongue:

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 09:59 PM
You've got it automated? Dude, you need to start posting the count. I missed Nightfall while trying to get it tallied the hard way.

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 10:09 PM
He's just being Adamesque, Sock.

Ensign Steve
08-16-2006, 10:24 PM
Wow, what a day! I need to throw another :shakefist: at working! I am so jealous of you all who can play on the interwebs from work. Although I remember those days, and it was SO HARD to get any work done. :giggle:

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 10:25 PM
/me may be up late tonight to find out who get whacked.

Ensign Steve
08-16-2006, 10:33 PM
Also, wouldn't your parser pick it up if somebody quoted somebody else's vote?

Adam
08-16-2006, 10:35 PM
Sock, I havent' posted any results from it yet (except a rough history of capp and julie's bandwagon behavior) because I've been trying to manually check it against manual counts to make sure it's reliable. So far, it seems to work well when people put their votes in the proper format. :shakefist:

Right now, it's useful for history, but not really for tallies, primarily because it can't reliably pick up unvotes. Since they don't always occur in the unvote: scum format, I have no good way to distinguish an actual unvote from someone just talking about unvotes (for example, in one of your posts, you're talking about somsone else's eratic play and you say 'vote, unvote, vote, unvote').

I'll start posting the vote histories from here on out, though, for what they're worth. I have them reported in the format post#,voter,votee.

Sock Puppet
08-16-2006, 10:35 PM
Yeah, I don't think it's in the official rules that an unvote needs anything other than the one word in bold. I suppose we could do that here at :ff:, if it's useful.

Adam
08-16-2006, 10:39 PM
Also, wouldn't your parser pick it up if somebody quoted somebody else's vote?

:nope:

I parse out any text in quote tags. Of course, it's vulnerable to fucked up quote tags.

Ensign Steve
08-16-2006, 10:41 PM
Aw, you so smart. :)

Crumb
08-16-2006, 10:48 PM
So can't you pick up the [b] tags for the unvote?

Ensign Steve
08-16-2006, 10:51 PM
Yeah, do that! And then have it figure out who posted and and who was the last one that person voted for, and subtract one! :)

curses
08-16-2006, 11:10 PM
Nice writeup, liv!

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 11:11 PM
liv, TomJoe was very nicely put away!

Even though he was the cop.

livius drusus
08-16-2006, 11:21 PM
Danke. I hope the fiance line wasn't too much. :blush2:

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 11:22 PM
You'll soon find out if it was! :giggle:

Ensign Steve
08-16-2006, 11:27 PM
I don't get it. :dunce:

Leesifer
08-16-2006, 11:34 PM
TomJoe has just got engaged: :cheer:

And liv mentioned a fiancée in his demise on the thread.

Ensign Steve
08-16-2006, 11:37 PM
Oh, duh! :dopey: