a question for those that can see it.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

As a member of FF, I would like to share something that has been on my mind.

I hate being on some people’s ignore list.

It is something I would never do and so can’t fathom. It is apartheid and I don’t practice that. I have never read anything that inspired virtual murder. A near death-battle maybe, but not the full-blown dismissal of another human being from my life at my own hands. A quality of mine, good and bad, is to just instantly forget about the bullshit and move on. I have never been able to ignore people. To me, it is wrong.

I find it hard to share here now. There are even slight feelings of bitterness when I post up my pictures, a thing that I love. I feel like your nigger artist. I shy away from threads I normally gravitate toward. I am even playing games in the atrium more often. That isn’t me, but I stick around because I do like it here and there is always interesting stuff to read and look at.

There is no 'true' freedom where the use of the ignore feature is condoned and often promoted, though you can come close. This isn’t a dig Liv and FF, but I always go to extremes with things and I do the same with free speech. However, it is my flaw, not yours, that I have trouble adapting to a place I choose to be. I choose to be here and other places because it is as close to what I want to experience without having created it myself. There are burdens that come with being a creator of your own website, so I find others to post in, like this one.

I guess what I am asking is this:

How do you think I should handle things? How do you suggest I get my mind around this? I will not change my behavior to remove me from ignore lists, but I could change my mind about how it affects me. I don’t mean any disrespect in this post. I am asking honestly of FF members…

What’s a brotha to do?

Asking honestly…

Michael :)

(please do not see this as anything other than me asking for advice. i would like to make my time here more enjoyable and there are people here i like.)

[Crumb]

If they want to ignore you, are they the people you want to be interacting with anyway?

[godfry n. glad]

Michael...

I think you should get over it. You cannot make others do what you think they should do. They will do what they will do. Be who you are and communicate with those who would comment in return. I suspect I'm still on a fair number of ignore lists, but many of them have just "moved on".

I like your pix. I think they are an excellent addition to the ff list. I find you personally a bit annoying on rare occasion, but willing to take input, even if you don't follow it. If you put more concern and worry into what others are doing, you are basically allowing them more control over your life and who you are than is adviseable, in my terms, at least.

[Leesifer]

Michael, I don't have anybody on ignore, and I don't think I ever will - I'm far too nosy for ignoring threads/posts. But, I can ignore somebody quite easily while still reading what they post.

However, that isn't for everybody.

Why feel bitterness when you post your pictures? You enjoy taking those pictures and posting them and those that reply to your picture threads enjoy looking at them. Don't forget a lot of people will still be enjoying them without posting on the thread.

You should carry on posting on threads you enjoy - even if some of them are "hot" threads.

How do you think I should handle things? How do you suggest I get my mind around this? I will not change my behavior to remove me from ignore lists, but I could change my mind about how it affects me. I don’t mean any disrespect in this post. I am asking honestly of FF members…

There is nothing you can do about people putting you on ignore, Michael. You must admit you've been provocative in the past and that maybe why you are on some people's ignore lists. However, I suspect, you aren't on as many ignore lists as you think.

[cappuccino]

There's nothing you can do about being on other people's ignore lists. I think you should just ignore that. It doesn't affect you directly and you've said you're more than capable of moving on past bullshit.

I enjoyed looking at your pictures, I thought they were lovely. No need to be bitter when posting them. You may be frustrating sometimes but it takes a lot to actually make me consider putting somebody on my ignore list.

[Plant Woman]

The best thing to do is live your life and remember that what other people do is about them. Also it is their freedom to use an ignore feature that is available to them, if they so choose to put you on ignore.

It appears that your pics are being enjoyed, you can see that in the posts where they give you feedback. If it makes you feel bad to post your pics, then maybe you shouldn't. But if it gives you joy, then post away.

Try to quit worrying about what others think about you, be yourself, treat others kindly, people will come around. OR not, but if you are living your life the way you feel good about it, and are not out to harm others, then shrug your shoulders and say, "their loss." There are few people in this world that can go through life and find everyone likes them. So don't sweat it. And learn to live and let live.

[wei yau]

Seconding what Lees wrote, she's a clever skunk, you know.

There's "IGNORE" as in the user function and "ignore" as in just being selective about what one reads. If you are judging how many people are ignoring you simply by responses, it's not entirely accurate. I know that I don't read nor respond to every single thread. I suspect others are the same.

Furthermore, why waste time obsessing over those who don't respond. Why not just enjoy your time with people who do choose to interact with you?

I don't have any suggestions for how to get your mind around this. I think it's really as simple as just simply doing it.

Truth is, if what you want is to know that nobody is ignoring you, I don't think you'll ever get that satisfaction. The "IGNORE" feature is liked by many, so it's not going anywhere. There is no "undoing" of the various posts by posters who announce they are putting you on ignore. And you'll never know if there are people who are ignoring you, but never publicly announced it.

Given all that, why worry about it? Why waste time agonizing over something which can never be resolved?

[The Jesus Lawyer]

lees, i know why i am on ignore lists, but regardless of whatever i posted, from my perspective is not to be ignored. you could say the worst stuff about my wife and family, but i still wouldn't put you on ignore. anyhow, the pic thing is because i offer up things i really enjoy to maybe pass on that vibe, knowing that it is being resisted by something i detest- being ignored. i cannot jibe with that mindset...never could. because it is an option here, one often talked about, it is something i have trouble ignoring, even if it is probably the only flaw i see...to me, it is a big one.

still, not big enough to detract from what's good.

that is good advice, godfry. i guess i just had to vent a bit. whenever i see threads devoted or started by people that ignore me and i know i am unwelcome there, i feel really shitty.

michael :)

[Smilin]

JL.

Just to let you know, you or noone else is on my ignore list. I'm beyond using the ignore feature of the forum and am quite capable of silently ignoring their posts or threads they start.

I had toyed with the idea of putting angrybellsprout on ignore, but quickly realized I get too much enjoyment out of all the drama he stirs up. Doesn't mean I respond to his posts or topics. I do read them though.

And I for one TOTALLY enjoy your picture threads dude!

[The Jesus Lawyer]

see...i know that people think it is me worrying about what others think about me, but that isn't the case. i feel limited here because of the action. i am not able to participate in things because i expressed who i am.

i honestly don't care too much what anyone thinks about me. i go around talking about 11:11, remember? :)

it is about feeling less because of who you are.

and yes- it is my problem. i appreciate the advice i came looking for :)

michael :)

[Leesifer]

OK, Michael, I have to ask, simply because you kept addressing threads to her after she'd said she put you on ignore. Is this mainly about Legs having you on ignore?

i feel limited here because of the action.
I don't understand this at all. Why does it limit you?

[The Jesus Lawyer]

legs is the latest.

i was thinking how i would have easily wished her and her daughter a bon voyage.

legs is not the only one though. in fact, i lost track of who promised to ignore me, which only makes it worse.

i do not pine for attention, i just don't wish to be ignored.

oh well...

[The Jesus Lawyer]

OK, Michael, I have to ask, simply because you kept addressing threads to her after she'd said she put you on ignore. Is this mainly about Legs having you on ignore?

i feel limited here because of the action.
I don't understand this at all. Why does it limit you?

it limits me in the sense that i don't feel welcome or enter threads started by or dedicated to people who see you as nothing anymore. i suppose some of that is my fault cuz what isn't, but i would think you could understand that.


michael :)

[D. Scarlatti]

Look at this way: If someone ignores you, and they're not seeing, reading, or posting in your threads, then you don't have to read their posts in your threads. In this sense, consider yourself blessed, not cursed.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

anyhow, the advice given is correct and i should just buck up and i have been. i just needed to vent and be reinforced by the words of smart people telling me to just get over it.

ok.

and i am a drama queen :)

michael :)

[Beth]

I'm probably on ignore from a person or two and I could care less. I do have a couple of people on ignore off and on and I think that it is my right to do that. I'm sorry that it makes you feel bad or ignored, Michael, but I think you should just shrug it off; I think that you would be happier if you do. Concentrate on the rest of us cool peeps who can see you.;)

[Crumb]

I can see how it would be annoying if someone like Legs had me on ignore. She posts a lot and makes some great threads and posts and is just all around great to banter with. If I were you I would post in her threads anyway. If your posts are thoughtful, kind, and interesting they may get responsed to or quoted by others and Legs(or whoever may have you on ignore) will see in those instances that other poster that she respects is having a positive interaction with you. Maybe that will eventually get an ignorer to unignore you and see that you have changed or that they may have misjudged or over reacted.

If people don't want to read your posts though, you just have to accept that they are not going to read them, whether they use the ignore feature or just skip them manually. :shrug:

[LadyShea]

Wow, it never occured to me to even wonder if I am on someone's ignore list, let alone give a shit. Shows how different we all are I guess.

I have people who post lots of useless bullshit on ignore, namely Carlos and AlphaMale (and an Alphamale sockpuppet I think) but I don't think they post here anymore anyway.

Anyway Jesus Lawyer, seems a weird thing to be concerned with, to me, but you aren't on my ignore list.

[Beth]

Wow, it never occured to me to even wonder if I am on someone's ignore list, let alone give a shit.I know what you mean. Maybe I should send out mass pm's just to see who has me on ignore...:P

[Leesifer]

it limits me in the sense that i don't feel welcome or enter threads started by or dedicated to people who see you as nothing anymore. i suppose some of that is my fault cuz what isn't, but i would think you could understand that.

Yes, I'm sorry, Michael, I hadn't seen it that way. I do understand when you put it like that.

Crumb's post above is spot on. Post in whatever thread you want to Michael, really. If you don't then you are limiting yourself, no?

Oh, and just for the hell of it :dramaq: :giggles:

[ChuckF]

Get over it. That's all there is to do. And maybe don't equate it with 'apartheid.'

[Miisa]

It never had occurred to me before either that I might be on someone's ignore list, and my first reaction is, surprisingly, to care. The close second reaction is not to, though.

As voiced above, if they have you on ignore, you are probably better off without them anyway. It sounds like a playground pep-talk, but it actually is true.

I have never put any person on ignore, I am quite capable of overlooking any posts I am not interested in anyway, and I am sure I would have missed a lot of great threads here if I had. Most trolls and such are rather short-lived anyway, it is in their nature to move on when they get bored.

[Beth]

Michael, I'm just wondering, were you bullied as a kid.? Or were you mistreated by the "cool kids" in school? I know that some groups ignore and try to isolate the unpopular, do you think maybe these feelings might stem from experiencing similar behaviors as a kid?

[The Jesus Lawyer]

Wow, it never occured to me to even wonder if I am on someone's ignore list, let alone give a shit.I know what you mean. Maybe I should send out mass pm's just to see who has me on ignore...:P

have either of you ever had a thread written about you that encourages others to ignore you? i have. i have also been told more than once that i was being put on ignore. so you see, i never wondered about it either.


michael :)

[The Jesus Lawyer]

Michael, I'm just wondering, were you bullied as a kid.? Or were you mistreated by the "cool kids" in school? I know that some groups ignore and try to isolate the unpopular, do you think maybe these feelings might stem from experiencing similar behaviors as a kid?

lol..uh, totally opposite. same with my real life now. i have always been popular and well-liked. i'm not kidding :)

never bullied, but i sometimes hung out with them...

michael :)

[The Jesus Lawyer]

anyhow...i will do my best to heed the good advice given. thanks to all who offered it.

here is some beautiful slime to look at. imagine? :)

[pescifish]

I like you, Michael.
:fishie:

I know what you mean about being "limited" in the action. I can definitely understand that is limiting when one of the more active and social users, such as Legs, isn't available to have fun and interact with. And it feels really crappy to know that someone I like has reduced me to some caricature of myself in their eyes and are treating me as if I didn't exist.

If it's someone I care about, I always wish they would at least make the effort to try and work things out. Instead, having someone walk away is the final dismissal and ultimate judgment on my worthiness. When that someone is very active and super friendly to all others but ignores me, then it is hard to keep that from limiting my activity in those group social situations.

The thing about the software ignore function is that it's not really any different than the wetware one. People online and IRL either like hanging out with me or they don't. If someone really hates me, then I'd just as soon they did avoid me using whatever means they have to do it. Otherwise it makes it difficult for me to 'be myself' for any others in the group without getting caught up in the judgment of the one who dislikes me.

So anyway, I just thought I'd say that I can understand how you feel. Still, I think Crumb's suggestion is the best: post when and where you feel compelled: especially if you can be thoughtful, kind and interesting!

Hang in there.

[Leesifer]

:yeahthat: Exactly what pesci said, Michael.

[Sock Puppet]

Get over it. That's all there is to do. And maybe don't equate it with 'apartheid.'
:yeahthat:

If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, then yes, I'd say you have a problem.

[Plant Woman]

It never had occurred to me before either that I might be on someone's ignore list, and my first reaction is, surprisingly, to care. The close second reaction is not to, though.

I have Miisa on ignore.

Oh wait! :giggle: :hug:

[Sweetie]

You have to remember some things:

a) some people really cannot take conflict. It's not you in some cases, it's them, it really is, it's a reality, accept it as a reality.

b) some people have different reasons for being here. Some people aren't here to confront themselves, others, ideas, to break ideas into tiny pieces worth exploring, they're just here for what they want. If you don't fit into what they want while they're here, then off you go.

Me, I love a good intellectual battle, I love pitting my ideas against others in a fair and honest way. Some people find that like, a flaw of some sort. Hey, I don't get into a lot of conflicts in real life, quite honestly, I avoid confrontation whenever possible, I don't have this need to fight all the time, I just learn best when I am using my skills in that way. In fact, most people would consider me a mediator instead of a fighter. There are plenty of others who do the same thing, and don't take it personally. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire, but the problem is, they take some things just too personally, and they don't know what to make of a person that doesn't, or they try to make something that isn't personal, personal and don't really know how not to. That's what I think.

I just don't have this fear of social stigma, at all, especially not here.

c) some people really exhibit extremely childish behavior. In some cases, it's a childish game, in others it's a social power game.

Gawd, can you believe some people even feel the need to make public announcements before they put one on ignore. The only way I can see that doing that is necessary, is if the person being ignored has a reasonable expectation of a response from you, otherwise, c'mon, it's absurd! It's like, I can ignore them just as easily as they can ignore me, they can annoy me just as much as I may annoy them, but they got to attach bells and whistles to their use of the ignore feature. It's like, gimme a break already. Yeah, they're special now, or something.

So michael, let me guess, you know Legs is ignoring you why? Was there a public announcement. Why would you want to talk to someone like that? Did the crew giggle and went about consoling her for having had to endure you for so long? What?

Quite literally, I did nothing to Legs before she decided whatever. Nothing. We had always spoken nicely, laughed in a few threads together. I called her on one of her ideas, trying to make an argument to justify one of my positions about some of the policies here, next thing I know, she's just.......:shrug: How much am I supposed to care then?

Quite literally, I want to talk to reasonable people. I've lived my life, found some really awesome people who are willing to try and get to know me, and I get to know them, we enjoy each other, discuss things reasonably.

So, I just think some people just aren't all that reasonable, nor fair, and I think some of those people are here. That's the way it goes, who loses that way? I quite literally do not want to deal with constant childish behavior, I want to talk to adults, and I'm one of those people that thinks that if you can't take a moment to see where I'm coming from, if you can't try, then why should I with you, and who's loss is it? Quite literally, even if they do come around, I lose respect for them in the meantime, so. :shrug: Seperate the children from the adults, and go forth from there.

I think the first thing anybody should do before they try and make a judgement about someone else, they should try and walk a mile in his shoes. If they can't admit that another perspective is possible, then quite literally, I've said it once, I'll say it again, good riddance though I personally still, in that case, do not support harassment.

Now, take me to your pictures, michael. :wink:

[Leesifer]

Hey now, I actually agree with the "I'm putting you on ignore" statement as being a silly thing.

But this:
Some people aren't here to confront themselves
Should be read as surely NOBODY is here to confront themselves. Why would you be here to "confront yourself"? What a stupid thing to say. You should be here because you enjoy being here and because you enjoy the company. If you're not then it surely says more about you. Doesn't it.

[livius drusus]

Lees, I read that as "challenge themselves", so not about confrontation or battle, but about questioning your own precepts, assumptions, biases. I think that's a healthy approach to these kinds of discussions.

Michael, when you say you feel inhibited to discuss certain topics, do you mean out of concern that the person who started the thread has you on ignore or just a general sense that you have to tread carefully because your usual approach has resulted in some people putting you on ignore?

As far as how to deal with the fact that people might be ignoring you, I have no wisdom to share. I was told I was going on someone's ignore list at IIDB once. It felt weird. Unfair. If we had been in a flame war, though, or had a history of rubbing each other the wrong way, I would have understood.

What do you do when people ignore you or avoid you irl?

P.S. - Cute slime. :aww:

[The Jesus Lawyer]

well...

i don't want to enter because i don't see the point in participating in something where your participation is restricted, for whatever reason. personally, i don't think anything i have ever done or said warranted my being put on ignore. i have yet to see that here from any poster.

people don't really ignore me in real life. i suppose i get fucked over at work from time to time, but that's life in a nasty business. i rant a little and move on. :)

michael :)

[livius drusus]

i don't want to enter because i don't see the point in participating in something where your participation is restricted, for whatever reason.

That doesn't answer my question. You don't want to participate in threads where the starter has said in the past that they have you on ignore, or you don't want to talk about things that set you off on behaviors that in the past have resulted in people plonking you, or ... ?

personally, i don't think anything i have ever done or said warranted my being put on ignore. i have yet to see that here from any poster.
With all due respect, Michael, your tolerance for irritation is not some kind of objective standard. It's just you. Other people process things differently.
people don't really ignore me in real life.
I doubt that you are the focus of everyone's attention at all times. In all probability a thousand people a day ignore you as they go about their business.

[Sweetie]

Leesifer, I don't think you understood what I meant. I'm the type of person that if I have a few really good friends, especially real life friends, which I do, I'm happy. I like myself, I like others, other people can become good friends of mine, but I have no desire for constant approval from others nor am I really good at constant socializing. I like to banter here and there, but it's not what it is for me as it is for others. You may enjoy the company, I enjoy good discussions and I only have made good friends with some online people, through good discussions.

Literally, Widget for instance, a week or so ago, joins one of my conversations for the sole purpose of saying whatever, and that he's putting me on ignore. What is a reasonable response to that supposed to be? All I can think is, ok. :shrug: What, am I waiting for him to like me, should I be sucking up to him. I don't suck up to anybody, for any reason, why would I care? Should I be adjusting the way I think or go about things, just to please him? Should I just accept it and wait to talk to him again when he decides he wants to be nice to me? No, I don't play by those rules. And then he doesn't like something about me that other people like about me, which one then should I choose to please?

Confronting myself, in that sense, means confronting my own opinions and ideas when they are met by other people, and I need people who disagree with me, but who are also reasonable to discuss it with, in order to consider an idea truly tested, I don't agree that ignorance is a good thing, and I don't want to be ignorant, in any of the ideas that are important to me. That means that when I get into the ring, I allow that I may be wrong, I'm testing my ideas against the ideas of other people, it doesn't scare me, and it doesn't bother me. It bothers and scares, and upsets some people to have their ideas tested in the way I test mine. Ask any fundamentalist.

That's what I meant by, "confronting myself," and why I mentioned it is because so many people, when up against ideas that are purely ideas, they can't take it, they are here to remain themselves, be right about everything, and justify themselves. They are not here to be wrong, to look at themselves, they are not here to understand other things, they are here to play and come down on other people who are "wrong" and that's the extent of it.

I just am not a person who needs a constant stream of support, approval, encouragement, fellowship. I like humour though, so, that's one of the things that I liked about this place other than my interest in intellectual discussions.

[Leesifer]

Lees, I read that as "challenge themselves", so not about confrontation or battle, but about questioning your own precepts, assumptions, biases. I think that's a healthy approach to these kinds of discussions.

Yes, that's a fair point liv, and I agree with that.

[Leesifer]

You replied as I was replying to liv, Sweetie and said almost exactly the same thing. Yes, I did read it wrong, I apologise.

[D. Scarlatti]

personally, i don't think anything i have ever done or said warranted my being put on ignore. i have yet to see that here from any poster.

If someone is replying to you in this thread, that's pretty good evidence they don't have you on ignore; IOW, they don't think that putting you on ignore is warranted, therefore, they don't have you on ignore.

Why on earth would you expect anyone to actually go out of their way to specifically tell you that? I can't believe I just did.

You should be eternally grateful for the responses you do get to your silly entreaties, not bemoaning the fact that some dipshit has you on ignore.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

I doubt that you are the focus of everyone's attention at all times. In all probability a thousand people a day ignore you as they go about their business.

that's right, they just aren't nasty enough to tell me.

and i don't post in those threads because i don't feel i should give my time to the interests of people who refuse to recognize my right to exist.


michael :)

[D. Scarlatti]

By the way, you never replied to my previous post. You probably fucking have me on ignore, don't you, you bastard?

[The Jesus Lawyer]

Why on earth would you expect anyone to actually go out of their way to specifically tell you that? I can't believe I just did.


i don't expect people to go out of their way to tell me that, i expect them to not go out of their way. if i read you right. it didn't make much sense to me...


You should be eternally grateful for the responses you do get to your silly entreaties, not bemoaning the fact that some dipshit has you on ignore.

i already addressed the above much earlier on and more than once, dipshit. you have no real interest in helping me, just in getting digs in. whatever.

anyhow, the advice given is correct and i should just buck up and i have been. i just needed to vent and be reinforced by the words of smart people telling me to just get over it.

[D. Scarlatti]

dipshit. you have no real interest in helping me, just in getting digs in. whatever.

That's not true, but if that's the way you want to take it, fine. Not much I can do about it.

See how that works?

[livius drusus]

that's right, they just aren't nasty enough to tell me.

So your problem is only with the people who have said they put you on ignore, not anybody who put you on ignore without comment, or who ignores you without using the software?

and i don't post in those threads because i don't feel i should give my time to the interests of people who refuse to recognize my right to exist.

Obviously I'm not making myself understood. I withdraw the question.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

yes...with people who announce it or start threads encouraging people to ignore. that is the kind of the thing and the kind of person i try to avoid. and yes- those that use the software and praise it...

and d. scarlatti- i know you are but what am i?

michael :)

[viscousmemories]

It could be argued that it's polite to let someone know that you won't be reading any more of their responses, lest they waste their time writing something for your consumption. When I say it, though, it seems to mean roughly "at this time and based on everything I've read of yours, I feel reasonably certain that the personal cost of reading what you write far exceeds the benefit. So buh-bye."

[The Jesus Lawyer]

but i'm telling ya, it sucks dude. it sucks to have seen other people encourage others to ignore you and to be told you will be 'put on ignore', which is different than just telling somebody you're not going to bother with them anymore. hell, i have respect for people that can just ignore what bothers them and move on. i think what makes it worse is that i am actually not being ignored, but eliminated. i think there is a difference between the normal ignoring of things that bother you and all out annihilation of what produces them. for the people that use this function on me, i no longer exist. might be my bag, but it bothers the shit outta me :)

[The Jesus Lawyer]

By the way, you never replied to my previous post. You probably fucking have me on ignore, don't you, you bastard?

peace, d. scarlatti...

[livius drusus]

yes...with people who announce it or start threads encouraging people to ignore. that is the kind of the thing and the kind of person i try to avoid.

Fair enough. As you said, you realize you just have to deal with it and move on, but just to add to the incentive for that, I'll point out that you're talking about 2 or 3 people at most, so you have plenty of other people to talk to in most threads.

and yes- those that use the software and praise it...

Well, that's painting with a far broader and uglier brush. I think your harsh judgements and hyperbolic analogies (apartheid was responsible for the death and oppression of millions, after all; your frustration at a couple of people giving you the silent treatment doesn't get to compare.) are unfair to the many people who use the feature without gloating to define their own forum experience.

Self-determination is an important principle to me. I understand you disagree and think that people getting to chose what they see and read impinges on your freedom to be heard by everyone at all times, but that seems like an inappropriately Ptolemaic view of freedom to me.

I like that people can ignore anyone on this forum, including me and vm. I always thought it the height of control freakery that moderators and administrators on other forums could force people to read their posts or else.

[Leesifer]

and i don't post in those threads because i don't feel i should give my time to the interests of people who refuse to recognize my right to exist.
Oh for heaven's sake, Michael, somebody putting you on ignore is not refusing to recognise that you exist. In fact, they are completely acknowledging that you exist when you think about it.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

i don't think my analogy is all that far out. it might be applied in a place where the only harm it does is what i allow, but i still feel it is born in the same part of the mind that supports a system of apartheid. in fact, i think this kind of thinking is actually more normal than not. you are lucky to have surrounded yourself with people that believe in free speech and thought, but it is the minority i let piss me off that is actually the norm in the real world.

some people use the ignroe feature in forums...some turn on the tv...

michael :)

[The Jesus Lawyer]

and i don't post in those threads because i don't feel i should give my time to the interests of people who refuse to recognize my right to exist.
Oh for heaven's sake, Michael, somebody putting you on ignore is not refusing to recognise that you exist. In fact, they are completely acknowledging that you exist when you think about it.

oooh...i like that kind of thinking. touche.

michael :)

[viscousmemories]

Well I understand that feeling, though. Like Michael, I've always been generally well-liked in life and I prefer it that way. Also like Michael, I'm fairly narcissistic and convinced that any sensible person will be interested in what I have to say. So someone saying (effectively) "from this moment on, you won't exist to me!" is pretty hard to swallow. Not to mention it just plain old hurts my feelings (if it's someone I like or whose opinion I value).

[The Jesus Lawyer]

lol...funny and mostly true :D

[viscousmemories]

Lemme guess. "Fairly" should be "extremely"?

[Leesifer]

Oh, alright, you're both asking for it.

:ungromp:

[viscousmemories]

Mmm...

[The Jesus Lawyer]

Lemme guess. "Fairly" should be "extremely"?

of course

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/michael1111/kissyme.jpg

[Plant Woman]

I get that way too. Then I call a friend up and sing, "Everybody hates me, nobody likes me." And they quickly come to my rescue. I think they do this so they don't have to hear me sing anymore. AND that really HURTS!

/me is feeling ignored by some Lawyer person.

[viscousmemories]

:laugh:

Btw, the thread title should be "a question for those WHO can see it".

Sorry, that's been bugging me since I first saw it.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

well..that's what they have editors for :)

pw- if you mean the jesuslawyer, you'd be wrong. i'm a big fan of your pics and read your posts...

michael :)

[Leesifer]

See, Michael, you're such a poser.

I now can't take you seriously about the ignoring stuff.

[Plant Woman]

Awww shucks! :blush: and thanks.

[The Jesus Lawyer]

See, Michael, you're such a poser.

I now can't take you seriously about the ignoring stuff.


i told you...i just can't hang on to things. it drives my wife nuts. she's a scorpio...something about them and never forgetting...evil. :)


michael :)

[The Jesus Lawyer]

oh wait...poser...hehe...nm :)

[Beth]

Michael, I just don't understand. I have been post-stalked in another board by a poster that hated me. I wished that the poster had me on ignore rather than follow me. I left the board because it was bad. I ignore certain people so that I don't feel compelled to tell them what dumbshits I think they are. I do it because I simply do not want to cause disharmony on this board. Generally, I will only put a person on ignore if they make my time in here unpleasant, because I would rather ignore someone than leave.

I also have felt like I have nothing to contribute because my posts are either ignored, or I am told how ignorant I am. I'm not sure if it hurt or not, I don't think I've thought about it. Oh, IRL I have been bullied and taunted and I have been popular and loved and I still have trouble understanding your reasonings, but, I do think the threads about ignoring you are nasty- in thought, I'm not sure that I've read one of those threads, or I just don't remember them.

[quiet bear]

I don't have anyone on ignore. That would be acknowledging a weakness on my part, that I let who someone else is affect who I am.

I've worked for many years on a quiet and solitary inner peace. It would take far more than a person who lives in a little box that sits on my desk to stir unrest in me.

By the same token, if someone were to come directly to me and say "I'm putting you on ignore because you upset me", or whatever, I'd simply say "Ok". What else is there to do, but accept it? They are who they are. I am who I am.

Not everyone likes everyone.

[D. Scarlatti]

a person who lives in a little box that sits on my desk

:laugh:

That's good.

[Beth]

I don't have anyone on ignore. That would be acknowledging a weakness on my part, that I let who someone else is affect who I am.

I've worked for many years on a quiet and solitary inner peace. It would take far more than a person who lives in a little box that sits on my desk to stir unrest in me.

By the same token, if someone were to come directly to me and say "I'm putting you on ignore because you upset me", or whatever, I'd simply say "Ok". What else is there to do, but accept it? They are who they are. I am who I am.

Not everyone likes everyone.I don't think that putting someone on ignore is a sign of weakness.

I also see the posters as more than someone who sits in a box. Unless someone is a bot, there is a real mind belonging to a real person behind these posts. I only put up with RL assholes who are related to me. So, unless an online asshole turns out to be related (it has happened before- don't ask), then I don't really want to deal with him. I think giving in and reacting to the asshole shows much more weakness than simply turning away from them and ignoring them.

[quiet bear]

Well, that's not a dig. There are a lot of very good people here. Intelligent and thought provoking.

I recognize these are real people, with real lives and personalities and quirks. But, in the scheme of my life, they never leave this screen. Why would I let them get inside my head in a negative way?


I think giving in and reacting to the asshole shows much more weakness than simply turning away from them and ignoring them.

I've never done this, either.

[Beth]

I guess that I had one of these nuts (not from here) try to reach out to me IRL once. So, after that, I wonder if any of the caustic nuts I interact with might be next.

[quiet bear]

May I have your phone number?

[Plant Woman]

I see using the ignore feature as a way to take care of yourself. Sometimes it is an important step for those who have had a lot of abuse in their lives. Someone abusive online, put them on ignore, it can really help some people. It's like getting up and changing the channel when you don't like something that is going on. It magically disappears.

[Beth]

May I have your phone number?
Nope. Sorry. You know, there are other ways to get identity besides a phone number.

[quiet bear]

Just so everyone knows, I wasn't inferring anything about anyone who uses the ignore feature.

I guess the point I was trying to make is, ignore feature isn't for everyone. People who use it, use it for their own personal reasons. It's not my place, or anyone else's, to question their right.


You know, there are other ways to get identity besides a phone number.

Suddenly, I am concerned for my safety.

[Leesifer]

Suddenly, I am concerned for my safety.

Be afraid, be very afraid, because

:pounceglomp:

[Beth]

I'm not hunting for you. I am just very stupid.

[quiet bear]

I'm putting you on ignore. So there.

[Beth]

Okie, dokie.

[Leesifer]

Surely, no ignore for the :pounceglomp: , quiet bear?

[quiet bear]

Nah, I was just kidding around with Beth. Apparently, I do not have the market cornered on droll wit.

[D. Scarlatti]

How is it a guy that's complaining about being ignored gets 81 replies in a matter of hours?

[Beth]

I need to complain about not being worshipped and adored. Dammit, I wish I were the antiChrist like Hoff.

[cappuccino]

Nobody likes me. Not one thread that I've started has ever gone past three pages. I'm ignoring all of you! :pout:

[ChuckF]

Nobody likes me. Not one thread that I've started has ever gone past three pages. I'm ignoring all of you! :pout:
No, capp! Nooooooo!

Khaaaaan! I mean, Caaaaaaapp!
:yell:

[D. Scarlatti]

I started one that's on page four, but I'm like the only guy that ever posted in it.

[Miisa]

I had a nasty experience yesterday which just confirmed to me the humankind is not worth knowing. I am considering putting y'all on ignore, then I can have the board to myself!!!

:muahaha:


*starts with Plant Woman*

[Plant Woman]

*starts with Plant Woman*

Oh nos! :byecry: