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beyelzu
11-06-2004, 07:08 AM
we have a beer thread but we dont have a drunkards corner, until now.


feel free to pwi here and talk about your favorite drinks


everyone knows I love skyy vodka,

but what you may not know is that I like the mixed drinks to.

Yesterday I had one part bannana puree, one part 99 bananas blended with ice and topped with whipped cream, very badass.

HarryLime
11-06-2004, 07:16 AM
Tasty. And I'd like to let you good people know that drunkards everywhere are swearing off Jack Daniel's until further notice. While Mr. Daniel is one of the grand old men of drinking tradition, his whiskey has been shamelessly lowered to a pitiful 80 proof, down from 90. This pissing on history will not stand. If you're as pissed off as the rest of us lushes, go sign the petition to reinstate the proof at:
www.petitiononline.com/JD002/

Since the weakening, I've started drinking pretty much nothing but Jim Beam white label. It's not the same, but it's honest, damn it.

Will

livius drusus
11-06-2004, 12:28 PM
Okay well, I should admit up front that I'm not much of a drunkard. I have a sensitive stomach, ya see, so a) I can't drink quickly, and b) I can't drink a lot. Should I engage in either of those things, I will quite simply yak violently until I pass out on the cold ceramic tile.

Having said that, if I'm looking to actually get drunk, the most delicious do it yourself route is clearly the lemon drop: shot of vodka, suck on lemon wedge, lick sugar. Hmm... I wonder how Skky would taste in lemon drop format?

Dingfod
11-06-2004, 12:57 PM
I can personally testify that 700 millilitersl of Jack Daniels Tennessee Sipping Whiskey Old No. 7 can still get you completely and totally intoxicated, even at "only" 80 proof. It was this very elixir which precipitated my kneeling before the porcelain goddess* and paying homage to her wonderousness just this past Tuesday evening, actually it was early Wednesday morning before the celebratory pukage began, followed immediately by the unconciousness of the near dead. Because of this momentary lapse of sanity, I have sworn this evil liquid fire to be my very enemy. I swear it shall ne'er pass o'er these lips again. I am fully cognizant of the fact that this oath may be of short duration, memory of these events being shortlived as they usually are. However, I must remember that I have not broken my promise to never overimbibe that devilish Mexican distillate, tequila, even though opportunity has knocked a number of times since that one night and day back in 1987. I can be quite obstinate about things such as this, so perhaps Mr. Daniels' liquor may become my drink of choice again, or not.


*How do I know the porcelain goddess is a she? Well, she puts up with a lot of shit and takes it well, with few complaints. So, how do I know it is a goddess? She swallows.

LadyXoc
11-06-2004, 02:56 PM
I'm a lightweight, one glass of wine on an empty stomach has me dancing on the table. But I like a vodka martini, or a blood orange martini, or a good pinot noir. And Laphroaig. All in mouse-sized portions.

HarryLime
11-06-2004, 03:07 PM
I can personally testify that 700 millilitersl of Jack Daniels Tennessee Sipping Whiskey Old No. 7 can still get you completely and totally intoxicated, even at "only" 80 proof. It was this very elixir which precipitated my kneeling before the porcelain goddess* and paying homage to her wonderousness just this past Tuesday evening, actually it was early Wednesday morning before the celebratory pukage began, followed immediately by the unconciousness of the near dead. Because of this momentary lapse of sanity, I have sworn this evil liquid fire to be my very enemy. I swear it shall ne'er pass o'er these lips again. I am fully cognizant of the fact that this oath may be of short duration, memory of these events being shortlived as they usually are. However, I must remember that I have not broken my promise to never overimbibe that devilish Mexican distillate, tequila, even though opportunity has knocked a number of times since that one night and day back in 1987. I can be quite obstinate about things such as this, so perhaps Mr. Daniels' liquor may become my drink of choice again, or not.


*How do I know the porcelain goddess is a she? Well, she puts up with a lot of shit and takes it well, with few complaints. So, how do I know it is a goddess? She swallows.

We as drunkards are still painfully aware of the incapacitating power Mr. Daniel's nectar still holds. Our complaint is that a soulless corporation (Brown-Forman) bought the company some time ago, and they have no regard whatsoever for history. Jack is a national treasure. It's a part of our history as Americans. And to water it down to cater to the whims of the market is just sad. So we're letting the company know we don't apprecitate it. The petition has something like 7500 signatures as of now, so it's not going over as smoothly for Brown Forman as they'd like.

That said, you are exactly right about the tequila. While I enjoy most all manner of liquors, felony juice and I have never gotten along. Devil's piss, that.

Will

Dingfod
11-06-2004, 03:24 PM
Even though I currently do not plan any further intake of that demon concoction, I signed the aforementioned petition so those that do enjoy partaking of said liquor will hopefully have ample opportunity to taste it in its full potency.

HarryLime
11-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Many thanks to you. It is a noble and worthy cause.

Will

Farren
11-06-2004, 05:47 PM
I finished more than half a bottle of Tennessee Sour Mash last night (welcome party for friends and family over from London) and felt only mildly off today, perhaps on account of drinking lots of Lipton's Ice Tea between, being mindful of past experiences.

I love Jack Daniels. I love it so much.

HarryLime
11-06-2004, 06:15 PM
I finished more than half a bottle of Tennessee Sour Mash last night (welcome party for friends and family over from London) and felt only mildly off today, perhaps on account of drinking lots of Lipton's Ice Tea between, being mindful of past experiences.

I love Jack Daniels. I love it so much.

As do I. It used to be all I drank. It's just so sad to see what they've done to my once-noble friend.

Will

Dingfod
11-06-2004, 06:38 PM
The bastards!!!

HarryLime
11-06-2004, 07:35 PM
Not wanting the thread to get bogged down with my ranting on Traitor Jack, some of my other favorites are:

Black Velvets - 1/2 Guinness, 1/2 Champaign, all tasty

Jager Bombs - I am a golden god at taking Jager Bombs. On my last birthday, I had four pints of Guinness, a bottle of Champaign (see a trend here?) and 11 Jager Bombs. Then I had a big fucking glass of black the fuck out. :D

Captain Morgan Rum - Not really a rum fan anymore, but that shit goes down smooth as silk as a shot.

Absinthe - I love the green fairy. I'm going to be ordering some of the good stuff from Germany pretty soon, and I'm excited. With the absinthe I've had before, it's a really odd drunk. Much more lucid than normal, and I've had some truly strange dreams after hitting it.

Grey Goose Vodka - Great as a shot with a cranberry back, or in a vodka tonic. Tasty.

Will

ApostateAbe
11-06-2004, 07:47 PM
I don't have much experience with alcohol, and I prefer not to get drunk. But my favorite non-beer is sake, and next in line is Bacardi rum in grapefruit juice on the rocks with lime.

Dingfod
11-07-2004, 04:20 PM
Spirits tempted me greatly last eve. A flask of that demon known as Jack calleth me from the cabinet in which it sleepeth telling me of the wonderous sleep I might obtain by consumption of its contents. It sorely wished for me to drinketh it unto the dregs. I yielded not unto temptation and went to bed for the night, sober as a Baptist.

LadyShea
11-07-2004, 05:19 PM
I like all kinds of red wine, as well as Ketel One vodka with pineapple and cranberry juice. This is usually called a Bay Breeze, but be careful as some recipes for Bay Breeze include Malibu rum (which I HATE)

Socratoad
11-07-2004, 05:28 PM
Piss poor health forces me to no longer imbibe, except very infrequently. I'm from the old school of believers who believe there is no such thing as bad booze, some is just better than others .. I too have had a love affair with Sir Jack. I have swilled more than my fair share of Absinthe. The first time I stumbled into the company of this strange but enticing escape juice was in a bar in Rabat Morocco years ago .... there standing at the bar were several French Foreign Legion Officers getting bombed out of their skulls. And so a very young me asked them what was that strange looking liquid in their glasses. I was seldom without a a jar or several of absinthe for the next thirty years

When age and perhaps refinement began to take its toll I found myself attracted to Drambuie. I love that warm feeling that spreads through the gut from sipping this elixir, especially during cold damp days such as this one. Oh hell I had better stop or tomorrow I shall be forced to seek out this scottish secret.

beyelzu
11-08-2004, 02:54 PM
I can personally testify that 700 millilitersl of Jack Daniels Tennessee Sipping Whiskey Old No. 7 can still get you completely and totally intoxicated, even at "only" 80 proof. It was this very elixir which precipitated my kneeling before the porcelain goddess* and paying homage to her wonderousness just this past Tuesday evening, actually it was early Wednesday morning before the celebratory pukage began, followed immediately by the unconciousness of the near dead. Because of this momentary lapse of sanity, I have sworn this evil liquid fire to be my very enemy. I swear it shall ne'er pass o'er these lips again. I am fully cognizant of the fact that this oath may be of short duration, memory of these events being shortlived as they usually are. However, I must remember that I have not broken my promise to never overimbibe that devilish Mexican distillate, tequila, even though opportunity has knocked a number of times since that one night and day back in 1987. I can be quite obstinate about things such as this, so perhaps Mr. Daniels' liquor may become my drink of choice again, or not.


*How do I know the porcelain goddess is a she? Well, she puts up with a lot of shit and takes it well, with few complaints. So, how do I know it is a goddess? She swallows.

We as drunkards are still painfully aware of the incapacitating power Mr. Daniel's nectar still holds. Our complaint is that a soulless corporation (Brown-Forman) bought the company some time ago, and they have no regard whatsoever for history. Jack is a national treasure. It's a part of our history as Americans. And to water it down to cater to the whims of the market is just sad. So we're letting the company know we don't apprecitate it. The petition has something like 7500 signatures as of now, so it's not going over as smoothly for Brown Forman as they'd like.

That said, you are exactly right about the tequila. While I enjoy most all manner of liquors, felony juice and I have never gotten along. Devil's piss, that.

Will


your problem is that you have never had tres generociones tequila which is just the shit. smooth clear and an abomination against god as it doesnt taste like dirt.

HarryLime
11-08-2004, 05:39 PM
That's entirely possible. I've never had premium tequila. The thing is that I don't trust a liquor that doesn't have at least an acceptable cheap brand. Think about it. Rum? Cheap as dirt. Vodka? I've had plastic jug vodka that did the job just fine. Whiskey? If Old Crow's good enough for Ulysses S. Grant, it's good enough for me. Gin? It all tastes like pine needles anyway. But there's no such thing as acceptable cheap tequila. I don't trust that shit.

Will

Dingfod
11-08-2004, 05:48 PM
I had shots of some kind of tequila back in June that were smoooooth. I thought it was good vodka until someone straightened me out. I don't remember what kind it was, but it was expensive, like $7 a shot in a $2 beer bar. Some cheap tequilas, I think are filtered by used cheesecloth, are a bit cloudy and taste like paint remover.

livius drusus
11-08-2004, 05:49 PM
This thread is altogether too manly. Just for that, I will now bring up the Raspberry Truffle: 1 oz Chambord, 1/2 oz Amaretto di Saronno poured over rocks and topped off with cream.

Oh sure, you laugh now, but you know you'd drink 10 of them and beg for more if they got you laid.

Dingfod
11-08-2004, 05:50 PM
No self respecting drunkard would drink that sissy stuff. I would, however. What does that say about me?

HarryLime
11-08-2004, 05:58 PM
This thread is altogether too manly. Just for that, I will now bring up the Raspberry Truffle: 1 oz Chambord, 1/2 oz Amaretto di Saronno poured over rocks and topped off with cream.

Oh sure, you laugh now, but you know you'd drink 10 of them and beg for more if they got you laid.

You're damn right I would. I've swilled cosmopolitans, pinky extended in the vain hope it'd get me laid. I'd do Raspberry Truffles all night long. I'd just use some bourbon as a back.

Will

Dingfod
11-08-2004, 06:00 PM
I've swilled cosmopolitans, pinky extended in the vain hope it'd get me laid.Shhhh! There's someone here still thinks I'm a gentleman for drinking the pink drinks with her.

HarryLime
11-08-2004, 06:06 PM
I've swilled cosmopolitans, pinky extended in the vain hope it'd get me laid.Shhhh! There's someone here still thinks I'm a gentleman for drinking the pink drinks with her.

Damn, I'm sorry about that. I'm constantly mixing up cosmopolitans with... uh... Alabama Slammers? Yeah, that's the ticket. Alabama Slammers.

Will

Dingfod
11-08-2004, 06:14 PM
It could be that she was trying to get me drunk... hmmm, I didn't really think of that.

HarryLime
11-08-2004, 06:16 PM
Has a woman ever really, in the history of the planet, needed to get a guy drunk to have sex with him? That just sounds a little farfetched.

Will

livius drusus
11-08-2004, 06:22 PM
You're damn right I would. I've swilled cosmopolitans, pinky extended in the vain hope it'd get me laid. I'd do Raspberry Truffles all night long. I'd just use some bourbon as a back.

Hip or boot flask?

HarryLime
11-08-2004, 06:31 PM
Hip. It's silver and has my initials on the front. Kinda odd that you bring it up, as I only got it back the other night. I asked someone to hold onto it for me after draining it downtown, and she skipped out of town for three weeks. C'est la vie.

Will

livius drusus
11-08-2004, 06:36 PM
Well at least you drained it before the bird skipped town. It's important to think positive. Meanwhile, can we all agree that having a monogrammed hip flask is the mark of a really classy True Drunkard?

Dingfod
11-08-2004, 06:40 PM
Has a woman ever really, in the history of the planet, needed to get a guy drunk to have sex with him? That just sounds a little farfetched.You are right Will, but a guy can dream, can't he?


Whoa! I forgot one, didn't Lot's daughters get him drunk so he would have sex with them?

Dingfod
11-08-2004, 06:43 PM
Well at least you drained it before the bird skipped town. It's important to think positive. Meanwhile, can we all agree that having a monogrammed hip flask is the mark of a really classy True Drunkard?Not enough volume. A Camelbak (http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?Product_ID=318&CATID=6) is more like it.

Whoops, I think I just discovered what was under Dubya's jacket in the debates.

HarryLime
11-08-2004, 06:53 PM
Well at least you drained it before the bird skipped town. It's important to think positive. Meanwhile, can we all agree that having a monogrammed hip flask is the mark of a really classy True Drunkard?Not enough volume. A Camelbak (http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?Product_ID=318&CATID=6) is more like it.

Whoops, I think I just discovered what was under Dubya's jacket in the debates.

... Mother of God. The possibilities for that thing are... disturbing. I think I'll just stick to flasks, m'self. Here's my next acquisition: http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/acatalog/flask-mdm.jpg . What a great magazine that is.

Will

livius drusus
11-08-2004, 06:55 PM
A Camelbak (http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?Product_ID=318&CATID=6) is more like it.
It's like a drunkard's thong!

beyelzu
11-09-2004, 06:32 AM
Well at least you drained it before the bird skipped town. It's important to think positive. Meanwhile, can we all agree that having a monogrammed hip flask is the mark of a really classy True Drunkard?
it would be if will hadnt stolen the idea from me.

I had a hip flask with my initials engraved on it freshman year, right now that flask is in the glove box in my car.

beyelzu
11-09-2004, 06:33 AM
A Camelbak (http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?Product_ID=318&CATID=6) is more like it.
It's like a drunkard's thong!
did you notice that it keeps 50 oz of liquid.


I could get pretty drunk on 50 oz of Bacardi 151.

beyelzu
11-09-2004, 06:34 AM
Well at least you drained it before the bird skipped town. It's important to think positive. Meanwhile, can we all agree that having a monogrammed hip flask is the mark of a really classy True Drunkard?Not enough volume. A Camelbak (http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?Product_ID=318&CATID=6) is more like it.

Whoops, I think I just discovered what was under Dubya's jacket in the debates.

... Mother of God. The possibilities for that thing are... disturbing. I think I'll just stick to flasks, m'self. Here's my next acquisition: http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/acatalog/flask-mdm.jpg . What a great magazine that is.

Will


will,

that is one fine looking flask.

beyelzu
11-09-2004, 06:34 AM
this post is just pure postslutting.

ApostateAbe
11-09-2004, 06:57 AM
So am the only sake drinker? It is a very cheap alcohol, fun to drink from tiny Japanese cups, and it can be drank heated. My favorite out of the several I have tried is Hakutsuru, which is the only variety I have encountered in my hometown that is imported from Japan.

Zoot
11-09-2004, 08:46 AM
I am a lover of all alcohol, though I still wince at martinis, partly due to bad experiences with gin.

But my old favourite is still or a black Russian on the rocks (no coke). I maintain that I am heterosexual.

beyelzu
11-09-2004, 08:54 AM
I am a lover of all alcohol, though I still wince at martinis, partly due to bad experiences with gin.
that's because gin sucks ass. but a grey goose martini with a pearled onion, called a vodka gibson for you philistines is the shit.


But my old favourite is still or a black Russian on the rocks (no coke). I maintain that I am heterosexual.
are you sure??

livius drusus
11-09-2004, 01:14 PM
it would be if will hadnt stolen the idea from me.

I had a hip flask with my initials engraved on it freshman year, right now that flask is in the glove box in my car.
Hey don't sell yourself short, man. You're a classy True Drunkard too. As long as you avoid the temptations of the 50oz back bladder and stick to what's in your glove compartment, that is.

livius drusus
11-09-2004, 01:17 PM
So am the only sake drinker? It is a very cheap alcohol, fun to drink from tiny Japanese cups, and it can be drank heated. My favorite out of the several I have tried is Hakutsuru, which is the only variety I have encountered in my hometown that is imported from Japan.

I love sake. When my best friend lived in Japan she brought me some truly outstanding sake which was the first kind I'd ever hand that is intended to be drunk cold. It was beyond delicious, but even if I could remember its name, I very much doubt I could get it here.

I always order sake at the best sushi place in town, though, from the house version to the bottled premiums.

godfry n. glad
11-09-2004, 04:52 PM
Beer/ale/malt liquor puts me to sleep.

Wine, of any kind, will awaken me hours later with painful acid reflux activity.

I'm pretty much a distilled spirits kind of guy. I rely upon gin & tonic during the summer and warm months, usually using Bombay Sapphire as a base. During cooler months, I usually shift to Black Bush Irish whiskey or a decent Highland single malt Scotch, my current favorite being Glenfiddich. I keep a few liquers, as well: Amaretto, Frangelico and the required Bailey's Irish Creme...which always seems to impress the ladies. I also keep around a bottle of Appleton's rum, a bottle of Jack Daniel's, and a bottle of tequila. I haven't settled upon a preferred brand of tequila, as everytime I have some I like, I tend to forget the name somehow.....

I don't really touch vodka, having had the worst drunk of my life on the stuff.

And, speaking of drunks....has anybody else here tried "scrumpy"?

godfry

HarryLime
11-11-2004, 07:36 AM
Well at least you drained it before the bird skipped town. It's important to think positive. Meanwhile, can we all agree that having a monogrammed hip flask is the mark of a really classy True Drunkard?
it would be if will hadnt stolen the idea from me.

I had a hip flask with my initials engraved on it freshman year, right now that flask is in the glove box in my car.

It's hardly my fault that I didn't realize the joys of alcohol as early as you did. For a goodly portion of my life, I was happy, and had no need of it, or so I thought. But I'm a convert now, so all is well. And I've mentioned it to beyelzu already, but yesterday I found this incredibly kickass Long Island Iced Tea mix that has the gin, vodka, tequila, rum, and triple sec all in one bottle for $10. Makes a damn fine one, too. You just add sour mix and a splash o' coke. Awesomeness.

Will

HarryLime
11-11-2004, 07:38 AM
So am the only sake drinker? It is a very cheap alcohol, fun to drink from tiny Japanese cups, and it can be drank heated. My favorite out of the several I have tried is Hakutsuru, which is the only variety I have encountered in my hometown that is imported from Japan.

I love sake. When my best friend lived in Japan she brought me some truly outstanding sake which was the first kind I'd ever hand that is intended to be drunk cold. It was beyond delicious, but even if I could remember its name, I very much doubt I could get it here.

I always order sake at the best sushi place in town, though, from the house version to the bottled premiums.

Try as I might, I can't for the life of me enjoy sake. I don't know, perhaps my palate isn't refined enough, but it just does not a thing for me, taste-wise. I do have high hopes for the served cold kind, though.

Will

livius drusus
11-11-2004, 01:45 PM
And I've mentioned it to beyelzu already, but yesterday I found this incredibly kickass Long Island Iced Tea mix that has the gin, vodka, tequila, rum, and triple sec all in one bottle for $10. Makes a damn fine one, too. You just add sour mix and a splash o' coke. Awesomeness.

Get. OUT! I can't even believe that. If only you knew how many shit Long Islands I've had at how many shit bars. I can count the number of places that make a quality Long Island on the fingers of one finger.

What is this mix you speak of? I need names, dammit, names!

Dingfod
11-11-2004, 02:38 PM
I must be an alcoholic, or at least a Jackoholic. Last evening, just before retiring, I felt a near irresistible urge to, as Cajun-comic Justin Wilson refers to it, "pore a leedle beet of that Cay-zhoan weeskee made in Tennesseee, Zhock Don-yell.!" I resisted, remembering my pledge to myself:
Thou shalt not imbibe of that which is so vile it causeth thou to vomit forth the contents of thine belly, especially that which causeth thou to continue to heave as though there were more within to spew forth after said contents of thine belly have been thoroughly expelled previously, at least, not until thine foul memory of said event fades.

HarryLime
11-11-2004, 07:00 PM
And I've mentioned it to beyelzu already, but yesterday I found this incredibly kickass Long Island Iced Tea mix that has the gin, vodka, tequila, rum, and triple sec all in one bottle for $10. Makes a damn fine one, too. You just add sour mix and a splash o' coke. Awesomeness.

Get. OUT! I can't even believe that. If only you knew how many shit Long Islands I've had at how many shit bars. I can count the number of places that make a quality Long Island on the fingers of one finger.

What is this mix you speak of? I need names, dammit, names!

If you're anything like me, then you've had a metric fucking ton of shitty ones. These are perfect, though. The brand name, I believe is Desert Island. It comes in a blue and silver labeled bottle, with a silver cap. I'm not sure what prices would be everywhere, but here it was only $10. Incredibly tasty. I went to the really nice liquor store on the other side of town, and the owner turned some frat on to them, and apparently they go through cases a week. But don't let the frat guys discourage you, it's actually a really quality product.

Will

livius drusus
11-11-2004, 07:06 PM
I'm on that like stank on shit, my friend. If it's as good as you say, I'm going to shower you in not worthy smilies.

HarryLime
11-11-2004, 07:18 PM
I'm pretty confident you'll be digging the hell out of it. I finished the bottle I bought that night, and went back the next day for two more. One caveat, though: the directions on the back of the bottle call for 2 oz. of the liquor mix, and 4 oz. of sweet and sour mix. I can only assume that these numbers were inverted. Just do the opposite, and you'll have a tasty cocktail that'll get you loaded in no time.

Will

pescifish
11-11-2004, 09:21 PM
Yeah, where's the Long Island Iced Tea thread?!
I'm confused about this product you speak of, HarryLime: is it an all-in-one or is it the booze part and you need the sweet and sour or vice versa or...? I need details!

I can usually get a pretty good Long Island at steakhouses I frequent, though they tend to be wimpy. However, my local saloon (been in continuous operation since gold rush days) and restaurant has a bartender who makes a killer LI that is always perfect. Plus she has a wonderful laugh that I like to hear in the background while I eat my dinner.

The worst Long Islands ever have been in Las Vegas which just doesn't make sense to me. Even really upscale places. The Mirage Samba Grill's was ok. As were the ones I had at two different restaurants in The Venetian. But, seriously, every other Long Island I've had in Las Vegas sucked. And it is my drink of choice, so I've had many.

If I want to booze it up, I generally go with a Long Island to start, then one or two shots of Patron Silver tequila. If I'm at some rubber chicken type event with a bar, I stick with double gin and ginger ale.

Tequila is most definitely my booze of choice, since I grew up on margaritas at family gatherings. I never order margaritas because no one makes them right except me (translation: the way I like my margaritas must be so deviant that every other human being would find them vile and hideous.)

Beer and wine? Don't waste my time! :P

livius drusus
11-11-2004, 09:28 PM
I want to know about the deviant margaritas! Is it a family secret or can you share?

beyelzu
11-11-2004, 09:29 PM
I'm pretty confident you'll be digging the hell out of it. I finished the bottle I bought that night, and went back the next day for two more. One caveat, though: the directions on the back of the bottle call for 2 oz. of the liquor mix, and 4 oz. of sweet and sour mix. I can only assume that these numbers were inverted. Just do the opposite, and you'll have a tasty cocktail that'll get you loaded in no time.

Will
dont you just hate it when they invert the mixing numbers?

In fact, the problem with most bars is that they put too much sweet and sour mix.

pescifish
11-11-2004, 10:39 PM
In fact, the problem with most bars is that they put too much sweet and sour mix.And the sweet and sour often tastes like a by-product of car radiators and batteries. I agree wholeheartedly on the problem of too much sweet & sour for mixed drinks: margaritas and Long Island Iced Teas both suffer from this.

I want to know about the deviant margaritas! Is it a family secret or can you share? Well, you know me and recipes... :( (I.e., I don't have a recipe.) But I vow to make myself a margarita here at home sometime this weekend and I will pay attention! I suspect what makes mine deviant in a hideous way is that I like lots of lime (for which I've already been vilified on this board, so... Now I'm oh-so-too-shy to post my deviantness. :sadcheer: ) :wink:

Anywho... I'm in an odd mood again this morning so I suspect I'll regret and wish to delete this next bit of personalness, but for now it stands:

Since Thanksgiving is coming up and Mom's been dead long enough to gloss over the unspeakable horrors of the annual family party at our house, I can wax nostalgic over the fun parts. 30 pound turkey roasting in the Weber grill in the garage, drinking margaritas, me hiding out from people by working my ass off, drinking margaritas, going all barbarian on the turkey to plate it, drinking margaritas, as I became an adult--diddling my boyfriend in every room of the house we found empty (or at least semi-empty), etc..

As kids tasked with keeping the blender running and everyone's margarita glasses full, my recollection is that my siblings and I used a specific brand of sweet and sour (Tavern's). And we reversed the tequila and sweet and sour amounts recommended on the bottle. We used Jose Cuervo Gold tequila and either Triple Sec or sometimes Cointreau. IIRC, the childhood ratios were

1 part Triple Sec
2 parts Tavern Sweet & Sour Mix
3 parts Tequila

They were rather boozy, but since they were blended (like all early 70's drinks! And must be in those bulbous wide rimmed margarita glasses from which you had to drink the first half inch immediately or spill it on your fancy holiday duds.) With blended there is more ice/water in the drink than on the rocks, so they weren't scandalously boozy. By the time I was 15 everyone liked my mix the best, so I would make it up in large pitchers kept in the refrigerator so that my siblings could then whip up blender-fulls to take around whenever necessary. We had a special kitchen dishtowel we used around the bottom of the blender where it leaked as the screw on thingie didn't really seal all that well on the glass. We were pretty drippy as we went around the house to the 30-40 guests. My symbolic Thanksgiving memories are all rather sticky and smell like tequila.

We ran limes around the rims and pushed the glasses into specially purchased Margarita Salt that came in margarita-glass-sized plastic containers that we reused every year. But once everyone had their first, they generally just got their glasses topped off throughout the day. That party got loud and louder as the day worn on, but everyone was smiling and whatever backstabbing grudges, paranoias and jealousies they all had seem to leave as soon as sobriety did.

wade-w
11-11-2004, 11:20 PM
1 part Triple Sec
2 parts Tavern Sweet & Sour Mix
3 parts Tequila


That sounds about right, pesci. Personally, I prefer my margaritas on the rocks, and with no salt on the rim.

Have you ever tried a Texas Margarita? Take the above recipe, and add 1 part Gran Marnier.

beyelzu
11-12-2004, 12:56 AM
In fact, the problem with most bars is that they put too much sweet and sour mix.And the sweet and sour often tastes like a by-product of car radiators and batteries. I agree wholeheartedly on the problem of too much sweet & sour for mixed drinks: margaritas and Long Island Iced Teas both suffer from this.

I want to know about the deviant margaritas! Is it a family secret or can you share? Well, you know me and recipes... :( (I.e., I don't have a recipe.) But I vow to make myself a margarita here at home sometime this weekend and I will pay attention! I suspect what makes mine deviant in a hideous way is that I like lots of lime (for which I've already been vilified on this board, so... Now I'm oh-so-too-shy to post my deviantness. :sadcheer: ) :wink:

Anywho... I'm in an odd mood again this morning so I suspect I'll regret and wish to delete this next bit of personalness, but for now it stands:

Since Thanksgiving is coming up and Mom's been dead long enough to gloss over the unspeakable horrors of the annual family party at our house, I can wax nostalgic over the fun parts. 30 pound turkey roasting in the Weber grill in the garage, drinking margaritas, me hiding out from people by working my ass off, drinking margaritas, going all barbarian on the turkey to plate it, drinking margaritas, as I became an adult--diddling my boyfriend in every room of the house we found empty (or at least semi-empty), etc..

As kids tasked with keeping the blender running and everyone's margarita glasses full, my recollection is that my siblings and I used a specific brand of sweet and sour (Tavern's). And we reversed the tequila and sweet and sour amounts recommended on the bottle. We used Jose Cuervo Gold tequila and either Triple Sec or sometimes Cointreau. IIRC, the childhood ratios were

1 part Triple Sec
2 parts Tavern Sweet & Sour Mix
3 parts Tequila

They were rather boozy, but since they were blended (like all early 70's drinks! And must be in those bulbous wide rimmed margarita glasses from which you had to drink the first half inch immediately or spill it on your fancy holiday duds.) With blended there is more ice/water in the drink than on the rocks, so they weren't scandalously boozy. By the time I was 15 everyone liked my mix the best, so I would make it up in large pitchers kept in the refrigerator so that my siblings could then whip up blender-fulls to take around whenever necessary. We had a special kitchen dishtowel we used around the bottom of the blender where it leaked as the screw on thingie didn't really seal all that well on the glass. We were pretty drippy as we went around the house to the 30-40 guests. My symbolic Thanksgiving memories are all rather sticky and smell like tequila.

We ran limes around the rims and pushed the glasses into specially purchased Margarita Salt that came in margarita-glass-sized plastic containers that we reused every year. But once everyone had their first, they generally just got their glasses topped off throughout the day. That party got loud and louder as the day worn on, but everyone was smiling and whatever backstabbing grudges, paranoias and jealousies they all had seem to leave as soon as sobriety did.


that is one great thanksgiving story.

on the subject of limes

the best margarita I have ever had, wasnt really a margarita. It was some drink whose name I dont remember that I got at a brazilian steak house. it seemed to be a glass full of liquor with a bunch of sugar and one or two crushed limes, and ice. nothing else. it was uber badass and very stout alhtough it tasted oh so good.

limes kick ass.

livius drusus
11-12-2004, 01:30 AM
That would be the unforgettable Caipirinha, made from cachaça, a Brazilian cane liquor. The first time I ever got drunk enough to puke was on those. Fanfuckingtastic.

pesci, my best friend's dad's fabulous margaritas use fresh lime juice instead of mix and I love them (even though I can only drink 2 without dire tummyache consequences). I think your TG story is lovely and am relieved not to have missed it.

P.S. - I suspect vm is already contacting his legal team about this: "My symbolic Thanksgiving memories are all rather sticky and smell like tequila". Avoid all registered mail and/or people asking you your name. :wink:

Godless Wonder
11-12-2004, 01:38 AM
For you vodka fans, have you seen this? (http://www.ohmygoditburns.com/). These guys had the idea of running cheap vodka through a britta filter four times, and taste testing it against premium vodka.

I'm no expert on vodka, I usually just have it with orange juice, but this looked pretty interesting to me.

Wonder what would happen if you ran beer through a britta.... Light beer? Probably nothing good.

beyelzu
11-12-2004, 04:07 AM
That would be the unforgettable Caipirinha, made from cachaça, a Brazilian cane liquor. The first time I ever got drunk enough to puke was on those. Fanfuckingtastic.

thanks, liv now I will be able to find out to make them at home, and I wont feel like a dipshit when I ask for one the next time I go to that steakhouse. which should be in a couple of weeks when I return to the north ga area to work and visit with friends.

Lauri D
11-12-2004, 04:38 AM
I could have sworn I made a post on this thread last night, but I can't find it now. It was about how Jack Daniels and me were once friends, but had a falling out. I tend to prefer wine and beer now, although a dirty martini (vodka), extra dirty, extra olives, is also nice. And a gin and tonic. And a margarita. Oh and a lemon drop martini ( :chestram: to liv )

OH! And margarita. And Long Island Iced Tea....

Ok, I'll STFU now before I expose myself as a :drunk2: Oops, too late! :D

beyelzu
11-12-2004, 04:44 AM
I could have sworn I made a post on this thread last night, but I can't find it now. It was about how Jack Daniels and me were once friends, but had a falling out. I tend to prefer wine and beer now, although a dirty martini (vodka), extra dirty, extra olives, is also nice. And a gin and tonic. And a margarita. Oh and a lemon drop martini ( :chestram: to liv )

OH! And margarita. And Long Island Iced Tea....

Ok, I'll STFU now before I expose myself as a :drunk2: Oops, too late! :D
dirty martini??

I am afraid that I dont agree.

I have recently discovered wine in a good way, I used to just look down on all wines, but then a friend of mine started purchasing wine, and I must say some of it is pretty not bad.

Lauri D
11-12-2004, 04:51 AM
dirty martini??

I am afraid that I dont agree.

I have recently discovered wine in a good way, I used to just look down on all wines, but then a friend of mine started purchasing wine, and I must say some of it is pretty not bad.
See, the dirty in the martini is primarily a function of my total and all-emcompassing lust for SALT. I have a salt problem, I love salty food and drink and, well, anything salty. (salt second to cheese I suppose...)

I also did not really develop an affinity for wine until recently. I prefer whites to reds because reds (even good quality) tend to give ma nasty hangovers, probably on account of those tannin-thingies.

viscousmemories
11-12-2004, 04:58 AM
I could have sworn I made a post on this thread last night, but I can't find it now. It was about how Jack Daniels and me were once friends, but had a falling out. I tend to prefer wine and beer now, although a dirty martini (vodka), extra dirty, extra olives, is also nice. And a gin and tonic. And a margarita. Oh and a lemon drop martini ( :chestram: to liv )

OH! And margarita. And Long Island Iced Tea....

Ok, I'll STFU now before I expose myself as a :drunk2: Oops, too late! :D
You gave it away with the second margarita. :didi:

Lauri D
11-12-2004, 05:11 AM
:doh:

*sigh*

C'est la vie... *hops up onto table for dancing and lampshade-as-hat-wearing*

;)

livius drusus
11-12-2004, 01:08 PM
I prefer whites to reds because reds (even good quality) tend to give ma nasty hangovers, probably on account of those tannin-thingies.

Red wine hangovers are horrible. In my case it feels like a strigil scraping my stomach walls. It's all I can do just the to keep down the obligatory hangover water.

Erm, not to be hugely square or anything since I do realize I'm in the drunkards' corner here, but I really think wines are best for meal enhancement and a nice, chatty buzz in the process than to get one's drunk on.

viscousmemories
11-12-2004, 03:49 PM
Erm, not to be hugely square or anything since I do realize I'm in the drunkards' corner here, but I really think wines are best for meal enhancement and a nice, chatty buzz in the process than to get one's drunk on.
Ah, the charming innocence of a non-drunkard. There is no best way to get one's drunk on, liv. :P

beyelzu
11-12-2004, 04:01 PM
Erm, not to be hugely square or anything since I do realize I'm in the drunkards' corner here, but I really think wines are best for meal enhancement and a nice, chatty buzz in the process than to get one's drunk on.
Ah, the charming innocence of a non-drunkard. There is no best way to get one's drunk on, liv. :P
while I agree with you that there is no best way, as a drunkard myself I have to say that there are a fuckload of shitty ways to get drunk.


so there very well might be a worst way to get your drunk on, I think it might be doing shots of golden grain.

Lauri D
11-12-2004, 06:07 PM
Erm, not to be hugely square or anything since I do realize I'm in the drunkards' corner here, but I really think wines are best for meal enhancement and a nice, chatty buzz in the process than to get one's drunk on.
Ah, the charming innocence of a non-drunkard. There is no best way to get one's drunk on, liv. :P
while I agree with you that there is no best way, as a drunkard myself I have to say that there are a fuckload of shitty ways to get drunk.


so there very well might be a worst way to get your drunk on, I think it might be doing shots of golden grain. :roflmao:

Worst Way = shots of ANYTHING on an empty stomach :sadcheer: Made that mistake a few times for sure...

liv, I agree with you on the wine thing.

SharonDee
11-12-2004, 07:18 PM
...but I really think wines are best for meal enhancement and a nice, chatty buzz in the process than to get one's drunk on.
Au contraire, mon f... um... ma soeur, but you have not tried my dad's homemade wine. That stuff is great for getting fucked up but it doesn't take much and there's no hangover. Yum!

We had it at our campout this summer and we were dancing around the fire in no time. :lindance:

livius drusus
11-12-2004, 07:22 PM
Homemade wine, you say? Git on over to this thread (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=934) and hook SkepticJ up with his recipe.

What kind of wine does he make, btw? I've had homemade wine made from grapes many a time, but I hear there are such things as wines made from berries and other such madness.

SharonDee
11-12-2004, 07:57 PM
Homemade wine, you say? Git on over to this thread (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=934) and hook SkepticJ up with his recipe.
Oh lord, my dad is too enamored of his wine making prowess for me to ask. The subject bores me to tears, you see, and I just can't make myself sit through his 'splanations. Not even for you, liv. :blush3:

What kind of wine does he make, btw? I've had homemade wine made from grapes many a time, but I hear there are such things as wines made from berries and other such madness.
He grows his own grapes but I know not what kind. He's also made some from blackberries, scuppernongs, muscadines... even peaches, I think. :ill:
His latest kick is homemade beer but no one will try it.

livius drusus
11-12-2004, 08:10 PM
Homemade wine, you say? Git on over to this thread (http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=934) and hook SkepticJ up with his recipe.
Oh lord, my dad is too enamored of his wine making prowess for me to ask. The subject bores me to tears, you see, and I just can't make myself sit through his 'splanations. Not even for you, liv. :blush3:

Hey, if I have to walk my dad through installing version Shit.0 of AOL, complete with endless repetitions on the difference between right-click and left-click, you can ask your dad for a few wine-making tips for an interested third party. That way you'll make him happy by paying attention to his boring hobby, but you won't actually have to listen to him drone on.

Assuming he's online, that is. I keep forgetting that not everyone is. :doh:

He grows his own grapes but I know not what kind. He's also made some from blackberries, scuppernongs, muscadines... even peaches, I think. :ill:

Okay now you're just making up words. :giggle:

HarryLime
11-12-2004, 09:57 PM
Yeah, where's the Long Island Iced Tea thread?!
I'm confused about this product you speak of, HarryLime: is it an all-in-one or is it the booze part and you need the sweet and sour or vice versa or...? I need details!

I can usually get a pretty good Long Island at steakhouses I frequent, though they tend to be wimpy. However, my local saloon (been in continuous operation since gold rush days) and restaurant has a bartender who makes a killer LI that is always perfect. Plus she has a wonderful laugh that I like to hear in the background while I eat my dinner.

The worst Long Islands ever have been in Las Vegas which just doesn't make sense to me. Even really upscale places. The Mirage Samba Grill's was ok. As were the ones I had at two different restaurants in The Venetian. But, seriously, every other Long Island I've had in Las Vegas sucked. And it is my drink of choice, so I've had many.

If I want to booze it up, I generally go with a Long Island to start, then one or two shots of Patron Silver tequila. If I'm at some rubber chicken type event with a bar, I stick with double gin and ginger ale.

Tequila is most definitely my booze of choice, since I grew up on margaritas at family gatherings. I never order margaritas because no one makes them right except me (translation: the way I like my margaritas must be so deviant that every other human being would find them vile and hideous.)

Beer and wine? Don't waste my time! :P

It's the booze part. You add the sweet and sour and the splash of coke. But still, five kinds of liqour in one bottle is pretty impressive.

Will

pescifish
11-12-2004, 10:46 PM
Definitely. I'd never have all of those stocked in my house, so I never have Long Island's at home. I'll look for that stuff next time I'm in the booze section, thanks!

ApostateAbe
11-28-2004, 08:52 AM
If you live near a Korean/Asian food store, look for a short red bottle of Bokbunjajoo. It is a "Raspberry Brandy with Rice." It is pricy (seven dollars for a 375 mL bottle, 15% alcohol), but it is well worth it. It is the best alcoholic drink I have had so far. It is dark red and has a strong raspberry taste that you are bound to love. It is imported from South Korea.

Godless Wonder
11-28-2004, 09:01 AM
If you live near a Korean/Asian food store, look for a short red bottle of Bokbunjajoo. It is a "Raspberry Brandy with Rice." It is pricy (seven dollars for a 375 mL bottle, 15% alcohol), but it is well worth it. It is the best alcoholic drink I have had so far. It is dark red and has a strong raspberry taste that you are bound to love. It is imported from South Korea. How'd you discover that? There's an Asian supermarket within half a mile of my place, I know they have an alcohol aisle, but so far I've ignored it. I'll have to look for that one next time I'm there, sounds interesting.

ApostateAbe
11-28-2004, 10:18 AM
If you live near a Korean/Asian food store, look for a short red bottle of Bokbunjajoo. It is a "Raspberry Brandy with Rice." It is pricy (seven dollars for a 375 mL bottle, 15% alcohol), but it is well worth it. It is the best alcoholic drink I have had so far. It is dark red and has a strong raspberry taste that you are bound to love. It is imported from South Korea. How'd you discover that? There's an Asian supermarket within half a mile of my place, I know they have an alcohol aisle, but so far I've ignored it. I'll have to look for that one next time I'm there, sounds interesting.There is a Korean/Asian store about two miles from where I live. You can look for the brandy at that Asian supermarket, but don't hold your breath. You would have a better chance finding it at a place that is more Korean specific. This isn't supermarket stuff we are talking about. I can't even find it on the web.

Talulah
11-28-2004, 06:02 PM
I think Liv is right about the wine as good for meals and a nice buzz. Red wine hangovers make me wish for death. They have a special brand headache all their own. However, red wine is really, really, really good for my sensitive stomach and the only kind of alcohol I can drink reasonable quanities of and not end up with liquid fire acid reflux and uh..other problems. As a result, I tend to stick with red wine, but in moderation. I can have maybe one glass of white wine without problems.

I also like white russians a lot. I think the half and half coats my stomach because I don't tend to have the reflux problem with those. I like some beers and mixed drinks. Ameretto is good too. I had a shot of that the other day. Wouldn't mind having some more.

livius drusus
11-28-2004, 06:57 PM
Oh yeah, white russians are great. I used to drink those religiously in college. For a surprisingly yummy treat, try Amaretto and club soda. It tastes like cream soda.

Talulah
11-28-2004, 11:45 PM
I am almost afraid to begin to like that sweet dessertish stuff too much because not only will I become an alcoholic, I will become a very LARGE alcoholic.

:D

pescifish
11-28-2004, 11:51 PM
My friend ordered a key lime martini yesterday that I swear was a dessert. Creamy, sweet, glass rimmed with graham cracker crust.

Shake
12-06-2004, 09:55 PM
Who was trying to imply that a Black Russian was somehow girly? And also, I've never heard of putting anything other than Kahlua and vodka in a Black Russian. I used to drink those quite a bit.

I also like Alabama Slammers and Long Island Iced Teas. My wife, a former TGI Friday's bartender said that they made their Long Islands sans tequilla. When I first got into drinking, I like Kamikazes, but I haven't had one in ages.

As far as other spirits go, I have but two words: Southern Comfort! Wait, another ... Bailey's! Yummy!

Yes, Tal, stay away from the "sweet dessertish stuff" like ports! (There'll be more for me! Hee hee!)

livius drusus
12-06-2004, 10:00 PM
Port is sweet dessertish stuff? I know it's drunk after a meal, but I never think of it as a sweet drink a la Amaretto. :tmcnfusd:

RevDahlia
12-07-2004, 04:23 AM
Port is sweet dessertish stuff? I know it's drunk after a meal, but I never think of it as a sweet drink a la Amaretto. :tmcnfusd:
Port is about the same brix and strength as sweet sherry; it's not the same kind of sweet as Amaretto, being a fortified wine instead of a liqueur, but it's still pretty damn sweet.

I like port, especially tawny port, in tiny quantities after dinner. More than a glassful and it starts to taste like cough syrup to me. I had a boyfriend once who was a port fiend; while the rest of us were drinking Harvey Wallbangers he'd be downing port like it was water. Once I joined him, and I yakked.

Godless Dave
12-07-2004, 09:35 PM
For a surprisingly yummy treat, try Amaretto and club soda. It tastes like cream soda.

I prefer my alcohol bitter, not sweet, but that sounds damn tasty.

RevDahlia
01-07-2005, 04:44 AM
Clear Creek Distillery's (http://www.clearcreekdistillery.com/) grappa is SO worth reviving this thread for.

Well might you think, "Grappa? Holy shit, considering my junior year abroad I don't even want to THINK about grappa." It is true that most grappa tastes like Pennzoil and has about the same effect on one's central nervous system if taken orally.

Clear Creek's grappa is another thing entirely. They make it from Oregon-grown muscat grapes. The first flavor is kind of tequila-y, petrochemical-y, harsh. Then there is the most unbelievable floral aftertaste. I swear it tastes exactly like a perfect combination of tea roses, orange blossom and honeysuckle. I have no idea how they did it, but this stuff is amazing. It's like a Zeffirelli movie in your mouth.

It will also knock you right on your ass, so if you do buy a bottle (which you totally should) be very careful.

The one I got for Christmas and have been (very carefully) enjoying ever since is the Grappa Muscato, but these fine folks offer several other options which are no doubt even more splendiferous.

livius drusus
01-07-2005, 05:02 PM
I don't know if I could get through the petrochemical to the floreal, but my dad is a huge grappa fan so I'll definitely hook him up. Thanks for the tip.