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Nightson
09-07-2006, 09:15 AM
When the invitation for the masquerade dinner party arrived by messenger weeks ago, a single thought rushed through every one's mind. The time was ripe. Each of you had your grievances against Caesar, and now it was your chance to strike and end it once and for all!

That night each of you made your way to the Imperial Palace. When you arrive, the Praetorian guards usher you inside. All of you sit down at the table which has been set for you. Each of you glances towards the chair at the head of the table. A gilded monstrosity of marble that is currently unoccupied. Everyone of you glances around at your fellow diners, hidden behind their masks. Who else is eating with you, you wonder?

But all speculation is cut short as Caligula strides through the doorway. Resplendent in purple and gold robes, with a red mask the color of blood upon his head, he sits down upon his gaudy throne.

"Ladies and Gentlemen," he announces, in his slimy voice, "we are gathered here today for one reason and one reason only." At this he paused and looked around the room before reaching done to pick up a goblet filled with wine. "We are here because some of you think that you can kill a god." Saying this a look of disgust and anger washes over his face and he hurls his cup at a servant girl. Taken by surprise at the conversation and the sudden drenching, the girl is too slow to dodge Caligula's dagger. As the girl bleeds out on the floor, Caligula calmly stands and address you once again. "Some of you think that you can kill a god, but you'll soon find you are wrong. You'll be staying at the Palace for awhile, anything else would be quite inhospitable of me. Now you may be thinking, what's stopping us from plotting to kill him now, after all, if he knew which of us were in on it he'd have us executed on the spot. Oh but that's the fun of it don't you see. You think you can trust the man sitting next to you to be disloyal as much as you, but not everyone in the room wants me dead. Ha! You'll soon learn how foolish it is to challenge Jove, let the fun begin!"

Then Caligula strode out of the room, stepping over the dead serving girl and leaving a trail bloody footprints in his path.

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Nightson
09-07-2006, 09:15 AM
Laws of Rome

- Things are not chronologically perfect in this game. Call it slightly alternate history. Nothing is made up, but don’t count on anybody being dead at any certain point in time.

- Votes should be in bold in the format of Vote: Person. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted, you have been warned.

- Unvote before you vote again. If you do not unvote, it will still be counted, but please do. Not unvoting increases the chance of miscounts.

- Lynchings require more than 50% of the votes to be on the player. Once a player has reached this, unvotes will not count. You can vote no lynch.

- If you’re alive, you can PM anyone else alive. Feel free to answer dead player’s questions too.

- Once your death scene has been posted, no more posting in the main thread. Be quiet in your grave. You may still post in the Common bath.

- Don’t edit your posts. Ever.

- Don’t quote any PMs from me.

- All night choices are due by the deadline. If you are too late, oh well. No choice will be made.

- If you will be having difficulties posting please tell us ahead of time.

- It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. Play nice.

- The town winning condition is "You win when all the people trying to kill you are gone."

Nightson
09-07-2006, 09:18 AM
This day is going to last about two days to give everyone a chance to see the game is up and to post.

:ares: :athena: :zeus:

Edit: Haha, can't believe I forgot this

I. Moxy
II. Adam
III. Jacey
IV. MonCapitan2002
V. Beyelzu
VI. thegoldenglove
VII. balluga
VIII. Smilin
IX. Leesifer
X. Legs

Leesifer
09-07-2006, 09:21 AM
Salve!

Here's to another Town win. :excited:

MonCapitan2002
09-07-2006, 09:33 AM
Hello all.

Legs
09-07-2006, 02:12 PM
Hi fellow townies :squeezle:

and you scumbags :noid:

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 04:33 PM
i trust none of you, i await the iiers to arrive so i can also trust none of them as well.


may the republic live again you empirial bastards.

:tmgrin:

great opening post nightson, love the fucking setup.

Adam
09-07-2006, 04:34 PM
Nice opening narration.

Who are the scum we're trying to ferret out, then? Caligula loyalists?

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 04:37 PM
nightson, you going to list all the players, and send pms to the iiers?


do they know its started?

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 04:37 PM
Nice opening narration.

Who are the scum we're trying to ferret out, then? Caligula loyalists?
well, i think the scum might be you cuz this post seems really adamesque


:tmgrin:

MonCapitan2002
09-07-2006, 04:56 PM
Adam is always adamesque.

balluga
09-07-2006, 04:57 PM
Hail all, I am here; but I must go now. I will be back shortly.

Moxy
09-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Ok, so basically all we know is we've got some townies and some loyalists. We have no idea how many of each, or what kinds of special roles there might be.

This should be interesting.

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 05:18 PM
it is so far.

gots to wonder how many specials there are and how many townies.

so everyone im lucius norbanus balbus.


who all do i have the pleasure of addressing?

MonCapitan2002
09-07-2006, 05:58 PM
I am not sure how many specials there can be. I think there are only nine players.

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 06:18 PM
well as far as we know, i suppose we will know for sure once everyone shows up and/or nightson posts the first vote tally.

so in that spirit.

let me say two things, one i am a townie all the way. my name is lucius norbanus balbus and

vote spenser

cuz he hasnt checked in yet.

Moxy
09-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Are you expecting him to check in for some reason?

MonCapitan2002
09-07-2006, 06:29 PM
He might not even know the game has started.

Moxy
09-07-2006, 06:32 PM
He might not even be playing...unless I'm missing something.

I. Moxy
II. Adam
III. Jacey
IV. MonCapitan2002
V. Beyelzu
VI. thegoldenglove
VII. balluga
VIII. Smilin
IX. Leesifer
X. Legs

Smilin
09-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Hello all.

Just checking in and trying to get a feel for the game...
:wave:

MonCapitan2002
09-07-2006, 06:50 PM
I am going to bed now. Please refrain from killing me.

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 06:54 PM
He might not even be playing...unless I'm missing something.

I. Moxy
II. Adam
III. Jacey
IV. MonCapitan2002
V. Beyelzu
VI. thegoldenglove
VII. balluga
VIII. Smilin
IX. Leesifer
X. Legs
oopsy, i guess i just totally expected him to sign up even though he never did.

hmmm.

unvote, vote jacey

cuz he hasnt checked in yet.

thank you moxy.

Leesifer
09-07-2006, 08:13 PM
who all do i have the pleasure of addressing?

You have the pleasure of addressing Leesius, Mr quick-vote!

Legs
09-07-2006, 08:14 PM
bey, you have been talking up a storm and already voting before everyone has checked in, that makes me look at you :noid:

but then again, if you were scum you might not be so vocal

but then again, you might be vocal to distract :narrow:

I want to wait for everyone to check in and chat for a bit - unless we are in a hurry or something? Last two games I voted right out of the gate and killed a townie both times :sadcheer:

Oh, and you can call me Nylonius Legsus :giggles:

balluga
09-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Sorry, I had a project to do at work, but it is now done. The first day sucks because no one knows anything. I will try and keep up with the thread throughout the day.

beyelzu
09-07-2006, 08:55 PM
and yall can romanize yall's names all yall want.


but my game name is lucius.

and i will unvote jacey as soon as he shows up.

Smilin
09-07-2006, 10:53 PM
Does that make my game name Smilinus? :lol:

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 12:04 AM
Hmm, this thread is very quiet. Could there be loads of PMing action going on in the background that Agrippina (Leesius) doesn't know about?

Legs
09-08-2006, 12:08 AM
Get agrip-pina :giggles:

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 12:12 AM
:glare:

/me waits to see who else may show up in the next hour. Then it's bedtime.

balluga
09-08-2006, 01:04 AM
I have recieved a few PMs but mostly just people saying hi. Tomorrow should be when all the fun begins.

Jacey
09-08-2006, 06:20 AM
I'm around, checked in earlier today but nothing to say.........just sorta waiting to see what happens.........

thegoldglove07
09-08-2006, 02:56 PM
I'm here.

Adam
09-08-2006, 03:56 PM
SO, is this game taking place entirely in PM?

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 04:07 PM
It seems that way Adam.

I'm here on and off until this evening (BST), because I'm really busy at work today.

Moxy
09-08-2006, 04:10 PM
It doesn't have to take place ENTIRELY in PMs...but I would imagine there is a lot of behind the scenes plotting going on.

balluga
09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
Well if there is any plotting going on, I know nothing about it. All of my PMs have been very general and nothing about anyone, mostly people just checking in.

Legs
09-08-2006, 05:21 PM
Good Morning, I too have had several PMs that I have responded to but nothing was plotting related, just general chit chat & hello.

MonCapitan2002
09-08-2006, 05:34 PM
Well if there is any plotting going on, I know nothing about it. All of my PMs have been very general and nothing about anyone, mostly people just checking in.
That is what you claim at least. Just because you claim there hasn't been any plotting in your PM's does not mean you have not been plotting via PM. While there isn't any evidence that you have been plotting, I think it would be foolish to think no plotting is going on behind the scenes.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 05:37 PM
HMMMM...well the only PM I've recieved is from Baluga, and I think he stated that it was being sent out to everyone...

Is that a sign that noone likes me perhaps? :ugh:

balluga
09-08-2006, 06:20 PM
HMMMM...well the only PM I've recieved is from Baluga, and I think he stated that it was being sent out to everyone...

Is that a sign that noone likes me perhaps? :ugh:
It is part of the game. The first time I played this, I didnt PM anybody, and no one PMed me. You have to be more proactive to find people to talk to, or the game can become very lonely. Even just sending out a few hello type PMs helps connect with people for later.

MonCap- It is also way to earily to start plotting, as there have been only one vote so far. When more people vote people will start to talk and the fun really begins.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 06:23 PM
The previous games I've played (both mafia and deadwood versions of this game), that was a critical flaw of mine.

That is to start blind accusations/bandwagons.

So, I'll refrain from doing so for now. :)

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 06:56 PM
I'm back from work now so will be around for a few hours for definite.

Just so it doesn't look like I'm suspicious, I am going to try to not mention my towniness so much in this game as it worked against me somewhat in the last mafia game. But I am innocent.

beyelzu
09-08-2006, 07:01 PM
hmm, currently balluga seems fairly innocent to me.

not sure about anyone really.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Well shit.

It's back to work for me (lunch break is over) and I'm afraid I won't be around much this weekend.

Please don't kill me in my absence. :)

Adam
09-08-2006, 08:00 PM
All right, Vote: MonCap, just to get things going. Also, because I always have a hell of time getting any read off him. *poke*

MonCapitan2002
09-08-2006, 08:14 PM
You once again choose me. I don't understand why you always seem to choose me when making a stab in the dark, Adam. Do I give off some vibes that always make you suspicious of me or something?

Adam
09-08-2006, 08:37 PM
No, it's like I said...you're so fucking inscrutable that I need to provoke a response form you so I can get any kind of read at all.

Moxy
09-08-2006, 08:42 PM
- All night choices are due by the deadline. If you are too late, oh well. No choice will be made.

Uh...when is the deadline? :scratch:

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 08:43 PM
Fair point, Adam. MonCapitan, you are very hard to read on these threads.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 09:31 PM
Agreed. I've noticed you're game play moncap, and while I don't consider it suspicious activity, I have noticed when you are being "gang-banged", you don't respond very much. You simply seem to overlook it and ignore it.

Does that make you one of the baddy's though?

Nope. Not in my opinion.

MonCapitan2002
09-08-2006, 09:36 PM
No, it's like I said...you're so fucking inscrutable that I need to provoke a response form you so I can get any kind of read at all.
I see. I guess I can understand your sentiment. I shall endeavor to be as inscutable as ever, however.

MonCapitan2002
09-08-2006, 09:39 PM
Agreed. I've noticed you're game play moncap, and while I don't consider it suspicious activity, I have noticed when you are being "gang-banged", you don't respond very much. You simply seem to overlook it and ignore it.

Does that make you one of the baddy's though?

Nope. Not in my opinion.
I prefer to avoid "gang-bangings". If you do decide to "gang-bang" me, at least be gentle. If you can't be gentle, at least use some lube before you all get to thrusting.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 09:41 PM
I prefer to avoid "gang-bangings". If you do decide to "gang-bang" me, at least be gentle. If you can't be gentle, at least use some lube before you all get to thrusting.

I've never used lube before. Do you have a preference?

And, yes, of course we "promise" to be gentle! :muahaha:

Moxy
09-08-2006, 09:44 PM
Nope. Not in my opinion.
I prefer to avoid "gang-bangings". If you do decide to "gang-bang" me, at least be gentle. If you can't be gentle, at least use some lube before you all get to thrusting.

Wait 'til Biggus Dickus hears of this!!





I was going to have to say it sometime and, well....I couldn't help it.

MonCapitan2002
09-08-2006, 09:51 PM
I prefer to avoid "gang-bangings". If you do decide to "gang-bang" me, at least be gentle. If you can't be gentle, at least use some lube before you all get to thrusting.

I've never used lube before. Do you have a preference?

And, yes, of course we "promise" to be gentle! :muahaha:
Uh oh. :hide:

Legs
09-08-2006, 10:09 PM
I don't like the first lynching, every game so far it has been been an innocent that goes.

MonCapitan2002
09-08-2006, 10:16 PM
Why not volunteer to be the first victim, then. At least that way you know you aren't responsible for lynching another innocent.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 10:21 PM
How about that muther fuckin' cocksucker Jaycee?

Whoops. Wrong game...

WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP! :bubbleup:

Legs
09-08-2006, 10:26 PM
Why not volunteer to be the first victim, then. At least that way you know you aren't responsible for lynching another innocent.
Because I don't want any innocent to go, including myself - just once I would like to see the random pick hit on a scumbag.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 10:30 PM
Then, Who is your pick Legs?

We'll all have to make that choice sooner or later.

Legs
09-08-2006, 10:32 PM
Hmmmm... it is so hard to chose when there is nothing to go on. Let me read the whole thread again and think about it. bbl

Nightson
09-08-2006, 10:40 PM
- All night choices are due by the deadline. If you are too late, oh well. No choice will be made.

Uh...when is the deadline? :scratch:

Deadlines for night choices will be announced when we go into night.

The deadlin for this day is 4 pm pacific time tomorrow.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 10:43 PM
I'll be making my choice when I leave work today (5 p.m. CST) and won't be returning to the thread, probably, until Monday.

Just so everyone knows.

Moxy
09-08-2006, 11:29 PM
I'm gonna have to cast a lynch vote just in case I can't make it back.

There isn't much to go on yet, but there are a few people who have barely said anything. Maybe they're busy, maybe they're just trying to keep off the radar. Either way....

Vote: thegoldenglove

I think he's only made one post so far...any reason we shouldn't off you TGG?

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 11:32 PM
I shall wait and see whether thegoldenglove posts. He was very quiet on the last game if I remember correctly.

Leesifer
09-08-2006, 11:48 PM
Not tonight though, because I'm off to bed now.

Smilin
09-08-2006, 11:50 PM
Night skunk-gwai! :)

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 01:53 AM
Why vote for me? I have school you know...

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 05:19 AM
Since I want this thing to get rolling, I'll make my vote.

Vote: Bey

Legs
09-09-2006, 05:30 AM
The first vote is tough, but I get way more indications vibes from Bey, than thegoldenglove so I will vote that way too. Sorry Bey

Vote: Bey

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 05:52 AM
I think TGG is trying to bandwagon bey. I do not think that is good.

Vote: TGG07

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:34 AM
Trying to bandwagon? I was just trying to get this thing started.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:15 AM
vote legs

i told her my name as i have no special role. i even put it in the thread.

legs decides that im acting guilty and jumps on the bandwagon against me, smacks of guilt.

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 07:19 AM
Trying to bandwagon? I was just trying to get this thing started.
Precisely my point. You are trying to get a bandwagon going. That sounds mighty suspicious to me. I also find it interesting that Legsy jumped right on it. You two wouldn't be working together now would you?

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:28 AM
Maybe Legs has the same suspicions as I but there is only one user I'm working with.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:34 AM
who are you working with caligula boy?

:tmgrin:

Nightson
09-09-2006, 07:42 AM
Jove hath blessed you with a gift! A vote count!

thegoldglove07 - 2 (Moxy, MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 2 (thegoldglove07, legs)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Adam)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

Remember to unvote

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 04:45 PM
who are you working with caligula boy?:tmgrin:

:dunno:

Legs
09-09-2006, 05:20 PM
i told her my name as i have no special role. i even put it in the thread.

legs decides that im acting guilty and jumps on the bandwagon against me, smacks of guilt.

Bey, I'm just trying to get things rolling - out of all the PM's I received, yours was really the only suspicious one. You were probing for information and asking about a role (Seer) I didn't even knew existed and wanting to know my name in the game and telling me I was suspect.

Please give me some reasons to unvote you and I will.

I have spoken to a few people via PM, GoldenGlove seems like a genuine townie, so does Adam. :shrug: It's just a feeling.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 06:01 PM
Bey is probing for information?

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:09 PM
Yes, he wrote me and asked me what my name was in the game asked me if I was the 'seer'

1) I didn't even know a role called the 'seer' was in the game

and 2) I didn't realize I had a name, I must have missed it on Nightson's first PM

I had just told him my made up name Nylonius Legsus - then he told me I was suspect

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:09 PM
yep, i totally asked people if they were the seer and asked to be viewed by them first night so we could form a voting block


that is just so fucking guilty.

shit, legs, sometimes i wonder about you.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:10 PM
seer is cop in werewolf. i dont know there is one of course, but it is likely we have one.

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:11 PM
Bey, how do you know there is a role called the 'seer' or did you just assume that, or make it up?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:12 PM
and legs, lets have the whole truth shall we, i told you you were suspect cuz you claimed townie and didnt tell me your name.

people with roles and the evil people need to hide their names as i imagine that they are more recognizable, and i imagine one of you is named caligula.

townies have no reason to hide their names in pms, or at least less of one.

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:18 PM
i told you you were suspect cuz you claimed townie and didnt tell me your name.



I didn't claim anything - I didn't even contact you, You wrote me asking me if I was a seer and what my name was.

I just responded that I was a townsperson and didn't have a role - you read into that the other stuff.

I don't even know if you are telling the truth about your name, you could be Mob trying to figure out who has roles. and the more I talk to you the more guiltier you sound.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:24 PM
well, then you are reading me very badly. as an evil role, as mafia, whateverthefuck they are called, i would have no reason to form an early voting block, i would already have one as i would know another evil player.

i would sit back and let yall go at it.

make the occassional evil post.

as a town player we have to actually form blocks to attack, its how the game works.

and given your track record at spotting evil folks, i could give a shit less that you find me guilty.

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:28 PM
I have to agree with your last statement. :laugh: except I dont' find you guilty - like I've said several times, the first vote is the hardest and you were the only one who sent me a harsh PM - everyone else was nice.

Leesifer is online, I wonder why she is not commenting or voting?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:31 PM
so youre voting for me cuz i sent you a harsh pm, really?????????????????


wow.

i have noticed that lees is about and not in thread, makes me wonder a bit.

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 06:32 PM
She is probably scum. That or she is checking out other sections of the board.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 06:35 PM
So Pming other players can work against you eh, bey?

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:36 PM
so youre voting for me cuz i sent you a harsh pm, really?????????????????


wow.


It's the best reason I have to vote for someone, Isn't it? no one else has done anything suspicious. (except Lees maybe now) first vote is a killer. :cry:

Smilin
09-09-2006, 06:38 PM
What's lees done that is so suspicious legs?

Not posting?

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:40 PM
Well, she has been online for the last hour and not posted here although Bey and I have been talking. Last night she said she was not going to vote coz she was going to bed - but hasn't come back to the thread yet.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:40 PM
So Pming other players can work against you eh, bey?
yep it can, but its necessary. no doubt about it.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:41 PM
so youre voting for me cuz i sent you a harsh pm, really?????????????????


wow.


It's the best reason I have to vote for someone, Isn't it? no one else has done anything suspicious. (except Lees maybe now) first vote is a killer. :cry:
umm, no , being harsh is a nonreason, unless for some reason you think there is a correlation between assholishness and being mafia.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:43 PM
Yes, Leesifer makes me wonder sometimes...

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:43 PM
Bey, I asked you a question in post 85 that you have avoided answering.

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 06:43 PM
She is probably scum. That or she is checking out other sections of the board.
Why am I probably scum? Yes, I have been checking out other threads. I didn't have anything to say here really, as you can see.

It's the best reason I have to vote for someone, Isn't it? no one else has done anything suspicious. (except Lees maybe now) first vote is a killer
Just because I'm not posting. OK!

What's lees done that is so suspicious legs?

Not posting?
Apparently so!

I don't know what to think to be honest. I'd like to see some others posting too. There must be a fair bit going on in the background via PM, so just Legs and bey posting didn't really give away any information.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 06:45 PM
:leeshug: :ungromp:

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:45 PM
:shrug:

You think you could just say hello when you see a bunch of people posting on the game thread.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:45 PM
Lees, well, you keeping quiet is pretty suspicious. Especially since you have ben on here for and hour and made a comment about voting for me last night.

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 06:45 PM
Yes, Leesifer makes me wonder sometimes...

Why is that? You have made only one line posts in this thread and one of them voting for bey for no good reason.

I am quite suspicious of you now, to be honest.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:47 PM
Suspicious of me? I havent had a damn secret power in a Mafia game since I have started. Again, stuck with a damn townie role.

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 06:47 PM
Lees, well, you keeping quiet is pretty suspicious. Especially since you have ben on here for and hour and made a comment about voting for me last night.

Actually, all I said was that I wanted to hear from you. I don't think I said I would vote for you. Now, however ...

You think you could just say hello when you see a bunch of people posting on the game thread

I certainly will from now on, if it's going to stop people being suspicious. :(

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 06:48 PM
Suspicious of me? I havent had a damn secret power in a Mafia game since I have started. Again, stuck with a damn townie role.

You and me both, kiddo.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:48 PM
Yes, if you say hello, it will atleast show us your not trying to hide.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:50 PM
Bey, I asked you a question in post 85 that you have avoided answering.
uh no.

i answered the question in post 84 before you even asked the question.

simply put it is very likely that we have a seer or cop of somesort by some name, i hope to find them and get investigated by them so we can form a voting block.

what is so hard to understand about thinking that such a role exists.


it also seems unlikely to me that we have a vigi type player but we will find that out after the first night.


if we do, i would urge that player to pick one player that they think seems particularly innocent and out to them predict the kill that they are going to make and then use that player to find other good players and hopefully connect to the cop/seer player.


but like i said it is probably unlikely that we have such a player since we have a low number of players.

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:52 PM
My views so far based on PM's and the thread

I. Moxy - not really sensing anything

II. Adam - probably a townie based on PM

III. Jacey - I have no idea, hardly any interaction, maybe scum based on being absent

IV. MonCapitan2002 - not really sensing anything one way or the other

V. Beyelzu - PM interaction made me think he could be scum - knew about a role - claims names are important, gives a name that can't be proven either way as really being his.

VI. thegoldenglove - seems like a townie so far

VII. balluga - seems like a townie so far

VIII. Smilin - don't really get anything either way

IX. Leesifer - I don't know, was here all morning but didn't post, maybe scummy

Out of all the interaction I have had I am still thinking Bey was themost suspicious so far. :shrug:

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:52 PM
Yes, I agree. knowing the roles would be useful but it makes the game much more interesting.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 06:52 PM
Lees,

Any idea of who you'll vote for at this time?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:55 PM
im guilty for being open about my name legs,

does that actually make sense to you???????????

on a related note, my posts are also in all lower case a sure sign of scumminess.

:lol:

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 06:56 PM
Let's hear this name, Bey.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:56 PM
legs, at this point, hate to be harsh, i know how much it bothers you.


but you are either being stupid or guilty and either way i want you fucking dead.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 06:57 PM
lucius norbanus balbus

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 06:57 PM
Lees,

Any idea of who you'll vote for at this time?

Not really, Smilin. Unfortunately, the first day an innocent usually gets it.

Last game went on for so long, I was actually impatient for a kill but at least this one is timed.

Legs
09-09-2006, 06:59 PM
im guilty for being open about my name legs,

does that actually make sense to you???????????



I am not even sure everyone in the game has a name and if their name gives any indication of player status role/mob/villager

Perhaps Nightson can tell us the roles, if any and the names he gave out?

Smilin
09-09-2006, 07:00 PM
Lees,

Any idea of who you'll vote for at this time?

Not really, Smilin. Unfortunately, the first day an innocent usually gets it.

Last game went on for so long, I was actually impatient for a kill but at least this one is timed.

I'll probably just flip a coin. Odds are that we lynch a townie either way.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:01 PM
lucius norbanus balbus

Quite interesting...since I did a report on a person by that name in 8th grade....

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:01 PM
nope he wont, its a closed setup,

but everyone does have a name, you have one, dont you?


why would you then assume that others dont,

unless you are being deceptive.


either way, i double vote for legs if such a thing is possible.

:tmgrin:

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 07:01 PM
She is probably scum. That or she is checking out other sections of the board.
Why am I probably scum? Yes, I have been checking out other threads. I didn't have anything to say here really, as you can see.
I figured your lack of activity was likely innocuous. There is a possibility that you are exchanging PM's with other players, though.

balluga
09-09-2006, 07:04 PM
Ok, I dont know what to think about bey, but I also think that we have someone that functions like a cop. One strategy is to find that person and begin to bring in trusted people to form a block. From the PM I recieved from bey, it seemed like he was just checking in on everybody and asking the 'cop' to view him first. That much of his PM seems fine.

Him asking for names does seem suspect because someone could give him their name and he could then use it to find out if that person had a special role, without making it look like that is what he was doing. This could allow him to find any good specials without seeming "evil".

Judging from his play style in previous games like this, I think that he is playing normally. However, with so many people playing who have not played like this before, I do not think that this method could accomplish what he wanted, mainly to become a trusted person. Also, by sending this message to most of the people, he runs the risk of being killed on the first night, and having the 'cop' waste their viewing for the night.

Just my thoughts on this.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:05 PM
Bey, I know you know who the seer is....

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 07:07 PM
Oh, and just to let you know, bey. I didn't reply to your original pm because I am not the seer. I've never played a game using PMs before and didn't, until now, realise how important they are.

To let you all know, I have no special role.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:08 PM
Well, that makes 3 out of 4 users, that have been posting the most without special abilities.

Legs, Lees, and I.

Bey?

Smilin
09-09-2006, 07:09 PM
Also, by sending this message to most of the people, he runs the risk of being killed on the first night, and having the 'cop' waste their viewing for the night.

Just my thoughts on this.

Hmmmm...well I didn't receive a PM from him.

The only PM I've received in this game is the one you sent out to everyone balluga.

Hmmm.....

Legs
09-09-2006, 07:09 PM
Okay, reading back

I said that I hated the first vote and Smilin posted


Then, Who is your pick Legs?

We'll all have to make that choice sooner or later.

Who is your choice again, Smilin?

and because of your question I looked back through all my PM's and the thread and settled on bey as the lesser of all the evils -but I don't know for sure.

Now you, Smilin are sitting back (enjoying the show) and asking Lees if she has a name at this time but you are not voting - what's the story?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:10 PM
Bey, I know you know who the seer is....
really, thats news to me

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:11 PM
I also did not recieve a PM from, Bey.

My thoughts are that, Bey got lucky. he contacted the true seer in his 2-3rd pm and the seer told him thier role. He then began to use the same approach and sent the same pm to a number of users. He knew that they coudln't be the seer so he wasn't running the risk of being "seen". Then he was using the names he was given to piece together the roles of the other users.

Just my thoughts.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:13 PM
i sent out about 3-4 pms, i was hoping that people would realize the import of their names and would share them early on.

and balluga, i recognize the inherent danger in my tactic, which im ok with.

got to be bold to win in my opinon, cuz the bad guys know more than we do. and formation of early voting blocks is so fucking key.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:14 PM
How did you choose those 3-4 users to send PM's to?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:14 PM
I also did not recieve a PM from, Bey.

My thoughts are that, Bey got lucky. he contacted the true seer in his 2-3rd pm and the seer told him thier role. He then began to use the same approach and sent the same pm to a number of users. He knew that they coudln't be the seer so he wasn't running the risk of being "seen". Then he was using the names he was given to piece together the roles of the other users.

Just my thoughts.
really, thats an interesting assertion and truly i wish that my tactic had been that effective.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 07:14 PM
Who is your choice again, Smilin?

and because of your question I looked back through all my PM's and the thread and settled on bey as the lesser of all the evils -but I don't know for sure.

Now you, Smilin are sitting back (enjoying the show) and asking Lees if she has a name at this time but you are not voting - what's the story?

I have been more careful with reckless voting because all that accomplished in the previous games is got me lynched. You were there and mourned my death(s) were you not.

As I said, I'll choose a name out of a hat and will do it now.

Vote MonCap

Sorry, that's how the vote fell. :)

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:16 PM
thegoldglove,

the first players that were active in the thread for the most part.

i also sent pms to people who i knew were good players hoping to get a good read on them and/or form the voting block with them.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:16 PM
I also did not recieve a PM from, Bey.

My thoughts are that, Bey got lucky. he contacted the true seer in his 2-3rd pm and the seer told him thier role. He then began to use the same approach and sent the same pm to a number of users. He knew that they coudln't be the seer so he wasn't running the risk of being "seen". Then he was using the names he was given to piece together the roles of the other users.

Just my thoughts.
really, thats an interesting assertion and truly i wish that my tactic had been that effective.

:hmm:

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:18 PM
I also did not recieve a PM from, Bey.

My thoughts are that, Bey got lucky. he contacted the true seer in his 2-3rd pm and the seer told him thier role. He then began to use the same approach and sent the same pm to a number of users. He knew that they coudln't be the seer so he wasn't running the risk of being "seen". Then he was using the names he was given to piece together the roles of the other users.

Just my thoughts.
really, thats an interesting assertion and truly i wish that my tactic had been that effective.

:hmm:
that is like a best case scenario of my tactic.

reality hardly ever conforms to best case scenarios.

Legs
09-09-2006, 07:18 PM
MonCap.

Why MonCap?

Okay I need to step back for a couple of hours and do some stuff around the house - I'll leave my vote as Bey for now, I think Nightson will extend the deadline because it is the weekend. Talk to you guys later.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:18 PM
Well, you have a damn good point there, Bey.

Legs
09-09-2006, 07:22 PM
i also sent pms to people who i knew were good players hoping to get a good read on them

You sent me a PM so you think I'm a good player? than you say this

given your track record at spotting evil folks, i could give a shit less that you find me guilty.

and this

but you are either being stupid or guilty and either way i want you fucking dead.

What gives? :scratch:

oh and :cbird:

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:25 PM
Wow, Bey just dug himself a huge hole in my book. My vote stands at Bey. I have some things I need to get done. Goodbye.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:27 PM
i also sent pms to people who i knew were good players hoping to get a good read on them

You sent me a PM so you think I'm a good player? than you say this

given your track record at spotting evil folks, i could give a shit less that you find me guilty.

and this

but you are either being stupid or guilty and either way i want you fucking dead.

What gives? :scratch:

oh and :cbird:


nope i sent you one cuz you were active in thread early.

adam and balluga were the good players i sent pms to.

not you.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 07:27 PM
MonCap.

Why MonCap?

Okay I need to step back for a couple of hours and do some stuff around the house - I'll leave my vote as Bey for now, I think Nightson will extend the deadline because it is the weekend. Talk to you guys later.


His was the random name I pulled out of the hat. As I've stated, it was a totally random vote, but will gladly unvote him and vote someone else if a stronger case is made between now and the deadline.

Smilin
09-09-2006, 07:29 PM
hmm....

bey, how do you know adam and balluga are "good" players?

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 07:30 PM
I will be staying logged into the forum but will getting something to eat shortly, so that will be why I'm not posting.

I'm going to check back on the list of players to see who hasn't checked in today as well.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 07:31 PM
not good as in for the town but they have played the game well at times, both players pay attention and consider a good bit before playing.

while balluga doesnt post alot he always pays attention to everything that it going on.


adam is also a player who reads things well and he is the winningest player here at ff.

so they are good players.

i also exchanged some pms with jacey as he is also a good player, but that was not part of the initial pms i sent out.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 07:32 PM
I'm going to check back on the list of players to see who hasn't checked in today as well.

Moxy
Adam
Jacey

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 07:32 PM
OK, we haven't heard from:

Adam - has been online today
Moxy - has been online today
Jacey - has not been online today

ETA: :glomp: thegoldenglove

Smilin
09-09-2006, 07:33 PM
I have work to do and won't be posting for a couple of hours either.

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 07:45 PM
MonCap.

Why MonCap?

Okay I need to step back for a couple of hours and do some stuff around the house - I'll leave my vote as Bey for now, I think Nightson will extend the deadline because it is the weekend. Talk to you guys later.
Smilin must be scum if he voted for little old me.

Moxy
09-09-2006, 08:19 PM
OK, we haven't heard from:

Adam - has been online today
Moxy - has been online today
Jacey - has not been online today

ETA: :glomp: thegoldenglove

Just for the record, I was online "today" at about 1am. This is the first time i've actually been able to check in "today" during the actual day.

Interesting developments today, that's for sure. I'm going to have to go back and re-read.

balluga
09-09-2006, 08:29 PM
I will say that untill I heard what bey was doing, I was going to contact him to try and form a block for the same reasons that he gave. I am willing to trust him for now, but that brings me down to zero suspects.

Adam
09-09-2006, 08:50 PM
For the record, I don't think bey's fishing for any seer/cop role that may exist is fishy. Although this is my first PM'ing game, it seems to be the most effective way to begin to clear each other so we can avoid lynching each other while the scum laugh, and it seems likely that Nightson would include such a basic role in his setup, if he has any special roles included at all. I do find his fishing for names slightly suspicious (and I'm trying to figure out whose names he asked for and whose he didn't)...bey, are you certain that we all have assigned names, or are you assuming that?

TGG, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning...why do you think bey knows who the seer is again? Your explanation thus far seems to be a worst case scenario for the town...do you have any reason to believe that?

Smilin', if no one has PM'd you yet, perhaps you should PM others and try to establish some kind of trust with them.

MonCap, who's on your suspect list?

I'm going to unvote for now.

Adam
09-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Also, while this is not my game name, next time I demand to be Lucius Pomponius Flaccus! :tmgrin:

Legs
09-09-2006, 08:56 PM
Standings

thegoldglove07 - 2 (Moxy, MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 2 (thegoldglove07, legs)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

Does that look right? :blink:

Adam
09-09-2006, 08:56 PM
lucius norbanus balbus

Quite interesting...since I did a report on a person by that name in 8th grade....

...and? Who was he? All I'm getting from Google is that he was a consul around 19 CE.

Moxy
09-09-2006, 08:56 PM
legs, at this point, hate to be harsh, i know how much it bothers you.


but you are either being stupid or guilty and either way i want you fucking dead.

Bey, this strikes me as a bit odd. With such low numbers of people, i don't think we have the luxury of intentionally killing off any innocents...even if they are being "stupid". All we have going for us is our numubers. If you think she's a loyalist, I can understand that...but to kill her off just because she's been "stupid"? I think it's very suspect, and most detrimental to the group. Anyone else have any thoughts on that?

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 09:00 PM
and? Who was he? All I'm getting from Google is that he was a consul around 19 CE.

:yup: Me too!

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:02 PM
...and? Who was he? All I'm getting from Google is that he was a consul around 19 CE.

Would there really be clues to guilt or innocence in the names? wouldn't that be a dead give away into identification?

Also, is it official we all have names?

Why couldn't bey be lying about his name? who could prove otherwise?

Nightson can shed some light on things.

Moxy
09-09-2006, 09:06 PM
Actually, the more I think about that, the less I like it. Especially since my first vote was mainly because of a lack of activity.

Unvote: thegoldenglove07

Vote: beyelzu

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:12 PM
Standings (I think is this right)

thegoldglove07 - 1 (MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 3 (thegoldglove07, legs, Moxy)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 09:27 PM
It looks right to me.

To answer your question, Adam. I find beyelzu, Legs, and thegoldglove07 suspicious. I find bey suspicious due to his fishing for information. I find it odd that tgg07 tried to start a bandwagon in one of his first posts in this thread. I find Legs might be working with bey and the hostility they have been showing each other could be an elaborate ruse.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:38 PM
Two senators involved in the plot were to loose their lives during the murder. One was Publius Nonius Asprenas, who was cut down by the guards; the other was Lucius Norbanus Balbus. Nothing further is known about them

from here

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7094/cal6.html

so a contemporary of caligula who lost his life for plotting against him evidentally. in short, im a townie.

ive explained my actions, if you disagree so be it.


as to my reasoning about legs, i just dont think she will help the town. she seems guilty and i find her reasoning weak.

incidentally. the goldglove game me a name of someone who lived a couple hundred years before caligula which i also found suspicious, he also defended legs to me in a pm.

so he is second on my list of suspects at this juncture.

aggripina was caligula's daughter but was in exile according to the site i linked to, so i think that puts lees innocent as well.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 09:38 PM
Back. What did I miss?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:40 PM
legs, at this point, hate to be harsh, i know how much it bothers you.


but you are either being stupid or guilty and either way i want you fucking dead.

Bey, this strikes me as a bit odd. With such low numbers of people, i don't think we have the luxury of intentionally killing off any innocents...even if they are being "stupid". All we have going for us is our numubers. If you think she's a loyalist, I can understand that...but to kill her off just because she's been "stupid"? I think it's very suspect, and most detrimental to the group. Anyone else have any thoughts on that?
its an either or type thing, moxy, i see legs as being guilty as hell just now. with her whole, do all us even have names schtick and her taking quotes of mine out of context to try to say that i was lying.

so yeah, i think she is guilty. but even if she isnt such play doesnt help the town so i want her dead anyway.

we cant be sure to get someone guilty on the first day, we can be sure to get someone who hurts the town though.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 09:42 PM
TGG, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning...why do you think bey knows who the seer is again? Your explanation thus far seems to be a worst case scenario for the town...do you have any reason to believe that?


I thought Bey knew who the seer was but after talking with him via PM, I have my doubts. Yes, I know, it seems as though I'm thinking of just worst things. But I need to keep thinking positive if the town is going to win. :D

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:44 PM
I find Legs might be working with bey and the hostility they have been showing each other could be an elaborate ruse.

MonCap, based on smilin's question to me 'who would I vote' I went back and read all the threads & PM's and decided from everything, all my interaction that bey was the most suspicious so far.

It was only half hearted and I explained that and that I was sorry to him for throwing his name out in the vote.

Then *bang* he hit with all the hositility to me, taking my vote personally, calling me stupid and saying he wanted me dead - I have only responded to him and defended my actions/words - there is no hostility on my side :snooty: but why the heck is he so upset with me over one vote? he sure didn't go after goldenglove like that, who voted for him first.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 09:45 PM
. I find it odd that tgg07 tried to start a bandwagon in one of his first posts in this thread.

How did I start a bandwagon? I made my vote and others followed. Did I ever say, Lets vote for Bey!?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:46 PM
For the record, I don't think bey's fishing for any seer/cop role that may exist is fishy. Although this is my first PM'ing game, it seems to be the most effective way to begin to clear each other so we can avoid lynching each other while the scum laugh, and it seems likely that Nightson would include such a basic role in his setup, if he has any special roles included at all. I do find his fishing for names slightly suspicious (and I'm trying to figure out whose names he asked for and whose he didn't)...bey, are you certain that we all have assigned names, or are you assuming that?

TGG, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning...why do you think bey knows who the seer is again? Your explanation thus far seems to be a worst case scenario for the town...do you have any reason to believe that?

Smilin', if no one has PM'd you yet, perhaps you should PM others and try to establish some kind of trust with them.

MonCap, who's on your suspect list?

I'm going to unvote for now.


based on communication with nightson, im reasonably sure that we all have names, adam.

and like i said before, im just trying to form early voting blocks. since i have no special role, i have been very open about my own name and trying to get a read on others.

i would rather get peoples names in pm so its not out there for the mafia to know their names, but i decided that i needed to post my own name in order to foster trust. given that im the vote leader im obviously failing to establish that trust.

evidentally being proactive is a sign of guilt to some people :shrug:

Smilin
09-09-2006, 09:47 PM
Then *bang* he hit with all the hositility to me, taking my vote personally, calling me stupid and saying he wanted me dead - I have only responded to him and defended my actions/words - there is no hostility on my side :snooty: but why the heck is he so upset with me over one vote? he sure didn't go after goldenglove like that, who voted for him first.

Well he is a dick in a t-shirt is he not? :D

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 09:48 PM
I believe that Bey is speaking the truth. I'll unvote for now, but that doesn't mean it wont change later on.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:49 PM
I find Legs might be working with bey and the hostility they have been showing each other could be an elaborate ruse.

MonCap, based on smilin's question to me 'who would I vote' I went back and read all the threads & PM's and decided from everything, all my interaction that bey was the most suspicious so far.

It was only half hearted and I explained that and that I was sorry to him for throwing his name out in the vote.

Then *bang* he hit with all the hositility to me, taking my vote personally, calling me stupid and saying he wanted me dead - I have only responded to him and defended my actions/words - there is no hostility on my side :snooty: but why the heck is he so upset with me over one vote? he sure didn't go after goldenglove like that, who voted for him first.


youve read how many posts of mine and think that this is hostility coming from me?

no fucking way. this isnt even close to hostile bey.

i just find your arguments to be sophistry to be specious.

and so it would be better for the town if you were here.

i dont think you are stupid mind you, but you certainly are acting stupid for this game. sophistic arugments and quote mining and mischaracterizations just arent going to help the town win.

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:50 PM
Standings (I think is this right)

thegoldglove07 - 1 (MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 2 (legs, Moxy)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:50 PM
I believe that Bey is speaking the truth. I'll unvote for now, but that doesn't mean it wont change later on.
hmmm, this makes me alot less suspicious of you. an evil person would have no real reason to change his vote when the matter is very much in the air.

hmmm.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 09:50 PM
Well, there is no need to vote off a townie. That'll just be a waste of a good lynch.

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:51 PM
and so it would be better for the town if you were here.


I agree with that :pleased:

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:52 PM
fuck that was a mistake, meant if you werent here.

my bad.

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 09:54 PM
I'll be back later. Lunch time for me.

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:54 PM
fuck that was a mistake, meant if you werent here.

my bad.

I knew that, but I couldn't resist :vibes:

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 09:55 PM
:giggles:

I'm sorry, I know this won't help but I truly don't know who to vote for and I am about to sign off for the night. I have to get up for work early tomorrow.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 09:56 PM
fuck lees, flip a coin, but vote for someone.

who do you find suspicious?

balluga
09-09-2006, 09:57 PM
bey, that is a very common name and so the 19 BC person made you seem a little bit fishy. Just for the record, there are two Aggripinas, both from the same time period.

Legs
09-09-2006, 09:58 PM
:giggles:

I'm sorry, I know this won't help but I truly don't know who to vote for and I am about to sign off for the night. I have to get up for work early tomorrow.

Lees, I don't think Nightson extended the deadline, did he? You should really vote for someone, surely you have a gut feeling after everything that was discussed today :brooding:

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 09:59 PM
fuck lees, flip a coin, but vote for someone.

who do you find suspicious?

Well, bey, to be honest it's a toss up between you and Legs at the moment.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 10:00 PM
bey, that is a very common name and so the 19 BC person made you seem a little bit fishy. Just for the record, there are two Aggripinas, both from the same time period.
sorry my name is so common, balluga, but its the only one ive got :shrug:

Legs
09-09-2006, 10:00 PM
:brooding: Lees

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 10:02 PM
fuck lees, flip a coin, but vote for someone.

who do you find suspicious?

Well, bey, to be honest it's a toss up between you and Legs at the moment.
well figure out which of us is more suspicious or just flip a coin and vote for one of us.

i have to say that i have a hard time understanding exactly how my actions look so suspicious, i have been as open and honest as i can possibly be, which is good for a townie and im catching shit for it.


on the plus side if i get lynched or stabbed to death or whatever at least i wont have to worry about not being online some next week.

Leesifer
09-09-2006, 10:04 PM
Oh, blimey. Well you can believe this or not but I really did flip a coin and, sorry bey, you lost.

Vote: beyelzu

Legs
09-09-2006, 10:05 PM
Standings (I think is this right)

thegoldglove07 - 1 (MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 3 (legs, Moxy, Lees)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

Smilin
09-09-2006, 10:07 PM
Jaycee hasn't weighed in yet....

/me wonders what's up with him.

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 10:14 PM
well, as always guys i do so appreciate your votes,

oh wait this is for a killing not a popularity contest.

fuck all yall who vote for me :tmgrin:

something for us all to consider is the signal to noise ratio. chances are that the mafia is sitting back more, they can leave their votes on an innocent, any innocent. typically looking at voting from other games the mafia arent on the bandwagon on the fist day, at least all of them arent.

i will be leaving soon and if nightfall happens as planned i wont be back on before it.

im currently less suspicious of the goldglove than i was before.

now im just suspicious of legs mostly.

Legs
09-09-2006, 10:22 PM
something for us all to consider is the signal to noise ratio. chances are that the mafia is sitting back more, they can leave their votes on an innocent, any innocent. typically looking at voting from other games the mafia arent on the bandwagon on the fist day, at least all of them arent.



In the games I've played this seems to be true, they sit back and let everyone else make the moves and then come in at the end and finish it.


now im just suspicious of legs mostly.

Well if you are a townie, like you say, and I unvote you now - will that prove it to you? or will you still want me dead anyway?

beyelzu
09-09-2006, 10:24 PM
legs, provisionally yes.

trust is never forever in this game, it cant be. but unvoting me when im vote leader would certainly make you seem to be less suspicious. however, with the knowledge that you are doing it for that reason. dunno.

Legs
09-09-2006, 10:28 PM
Kinda a no win situation for me, bey. :shrug:

The thing is though, now that you have 3 votes - it will be pretty easy for you to get finished off. there is only 10 playing, right?

So I'll unvote until a few more people weigh in

Legs
09-09-2006, 10:29 PM
Standings (I think this is right)

thegoldglove07 - 1 (MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 2 (Moxy, Leesifer)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 10:30 PM
on the plus side if i get lynched or stabbed to death or whatever at least i wont have to worry about not being online some next week.

Well, since you feel that way.

Vote: Bey

Legs
09-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Standings (I think this is right)

thegoldglove07 - 1 (MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 3 (Moxy, Leesifer, thegoldenglove07)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

thegoldglove07
09-09-2006, 10:46 PM
Does anyone have an idea when Nightfall will come?

MonCapitan2002
09-09-2006, 11:51 PM
When Nightson decides to call Nightfall and not before.

Nightson
09-09-2006, 11:58 PM
When Nightson decides to call Nightfall and not before.

That's so very true.


Modnote: Every single person in this game does not have a name. That's all you get. (Sorry about any confusion bey)

balluga
09-10-2006, 12:03 AM
Not every one has a name, that is very interesting. I dont know what it means right now, but that is interesting.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 12:34 AM
Well, that clears some things up.

Legs
09-10-2006, 12:37 AM
Yeah, clear as mud :eelement:

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 12:38 AM
It still removes my assumption of Bey trying to find all the users roles.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 04:50 PM
Anyone here? I need some more info. to make my last vote before I leave for the day.

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 04:56 PM
I here, tgg, :ciao: I need to read through the thread again. Although it doesn't look like a lot has happened since I left last night.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 04:57 PM
Alright, true. Since yesterday evening (me) no one posted.

Legs
09-10-2006, 04:58 PM
Jacey has not posted since September 8th.

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:00 PM
I got a PM from him last night, so he has probably read the thread.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:00 PM
Well, what was his PM about?

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:01 PM
He PM'd you but didn't bother to come by and post or make a comment on the thread?

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:01 PM
So what is he plotting you think? Did he give you any information that might be useful for the town?

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:01 PM
Not a lot really. I just let him know that not posting may be construed as being scum and he agreed but said he also got pegged for scum on a previous game when he posted, so couldn't win either way. :dunno:

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:02 PM
He PM'd you but didn't bother to come by and post or make a comment on the thread?

Yes, seems a bit odd unless he found out who he was working with.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:02 PM
He PM'd you but didn't bother to come by and post or make a comment on the thread?
I find that oddly suspicious. I also find it interesting that he chose to PM her over others (assuming she was the only one to receive a PM from him). I think he might be up to something behind the scenes.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:03 PM
Not a lot really. I just let him know that not posting may be construed as being scum and he agreed. :dunno:

He agreed to being scum? :wink:

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:03 PM
Okay, but if he was scum - I would expect him to post so he wouldn't get kicked off for not participating.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:04 PM
Well, should we off him?

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:04 PM
I think she means that he agreed with the perception, not that he was scum you silly.

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:04 PM
He agreed to being scum? :wink:

:eep:

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:04 PM
He PM'd you but didn't bother to come by and post or make a comment on the thread?
I find that oddly suspicious. I also find it interesting that he chose to PM her over others (assuming she was the only one to receive a PM from him). I think he might be up to something behind the scenes.

I PM'd him first, MonCapitan and he replied.

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Why did you PM him Lees? :noid:

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:05 PM
I think she means that he agreed with the perception, not that he was scum you silly.

Yes, I know that. :D

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Not a lot really. I just let him know that not posting may be construed as being scum and he agreed. :dunno:

He agreed to being scum? :wink:

:giggles:

Just to clarify. No, he agreed that it could be construed as being scum.

/me doesn't want to give out misinformation.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Well, should we off him?
He should be given an opportunity to argue his innocence before being offed. The last thing we want to do is lynch an innocent without giving said innocent a chance to defend her/himself.

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:06 PM
Why did you PM him Lees? :noid:

Because I hadn't seem him posting on the thread and people were thinking I might be scum when I hadn't posted.

Just giving him a chance to defend himself (or not!).

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:07 PM
He PM'd you but didn't bother to come by and post or make a comment on the thread?
I find that oddly suspicious. I also find it interesting that he chose to PM her over others (assuming she was the only one to receive a PM from him). I think he might be up to something behind the scenes.

I PM'd him first, MonCapitan and he replied.
Really? What prompted you to PM him out of the blue? Why send him a message instead of a more active member? Did he give you a reason behind his lack of activity in the game thread?

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:07 PM
Lees, first you say he sent you a PM and now your saying you sent him one first? That sounds very suspicious.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:08 PM
I think you are reading too much into her comments. She simply wasn't entirely clear in her summation of the order of events. I don't see that as being something worth arousing suspicion.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:08 PM
Well, thats your opinion but these small details are going to help the town win.

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:08 PM
I got a PM from him last night, so he has probably read the thread.
Not a lot really. I just let him know that not posting may be construed as being scum and he agreed but said he also got pegged for scum on a previous game when he posted, so couldn't win either way.

For heaven's sake guys. I've explained why I PM'd him and thought it was clear from my second comment here that he was replying to me.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:09 PM
Your right, I misunderstood, Lees. My mistake.

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:09 PM
Did he give you a reason behind his lack of activity in the game thread?

No. Just what I said earlier about his being damned either way.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:11 PM
Well, thats your opinion but these small details are going to help the town win.
How is knowing the order of PM exchanges going to help the town win?

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:12 PM
That's not what I was referring to. I was possibly thinking it could have been a slip up.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:13 PM
Did he give you a reason behind his lack of activity in the game thread?

No. Just what I said earlier about his being damned either way.
Those fucked if you do fucked if you don't situations suck. What sucks even more is getting lynched while you are away and unable to argue your case. That sucks. I hope he doesn't get railroaded. He deserves to have an opportunity to argue his case.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:14 PM
Yes, I agree, but if he never does come and try to argue for himself, then we should have no choice not to lynch him.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:17 PM
That's not what I was referring to. I was possibly thinking it could have been a slip up.
That is a possibility. Even if it her summation of the PM exchange thing were a slip up that does not necessarily mean that there is anything untoward going on between the her and Jacey. I still think you are reading too much into her posts. If she was truly colluding with him clandestinely, I doubt she would have disclosed the fact that she exchanged messages with him.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:18 PM
Yes, your right. I'll just have to sit back and wait for Jacey.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:18 PM
Yes, I agree, but if he never does come and try to argue for himself, then we should have no choice not to lynch him.
We would be lynching him without reason. I think you should rethink that attitude. Killing him when he has done nothing to arouse suspicion is bad form.

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:19 PM
I'm not voting for Jacey at this point - as I said, after Lees warned him he might be regarded as scum for not posting - he still didn't post. Wouldn't scum come in and try to correct the situation?

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:19 PM
Thanks MonCapitan. I just wanted you all to know that, even if he hasn't posted, he has most definitely read the thread.

Why he didn't post, I have no idea.

I have no problem with lynching him if that's what the concensus is.

MonCapitan2002
09-10-2006, 05:21 PM
Thanks MonCapitan. I just wanted you all to know that, even if he hasn't posted, he has most definitely read the thread.

Why he didn't post, I have no idea.

I have no problem with lynching him if that's what the concensus is.
So would you vote to lynch him even if you were not convinced of his scummitude? I find it odd that you would express your appreciation for my feedback while at the same time saying you have no problem lynching him if enough people express a desire to kill him.

thegoldglove07
09-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Alright, well, I'll be back a little later. My vote stands at Bey.

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:24 PM
Thanks MonCapitan. I just wanted you all to know that, even if he hasn't posted, he has most definitely read the thread.

Why he didn't post, I have no idea.

I have no problem with lynching him if that's what the concensus is.
So would you vote to lynch him even if you were not convinced of his scummitude? I find it odd that you would express your appreciation for my feedback while at the same time saying you have no problem lynching him if enough people express a desire to kill him.

Just going along with the town really, MonCapitan. That's why I said "if that's what the concensus is". I haven't voted for him but if we have to "off" somebody, then why not somebody who hasn't even bothered to post in the game?

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:29 PM
Standings (I think this is correct)

thegoldglove07 - 1 (MonCapitan2002)
Beyelzu - 3 (Moxy, Leesifer, thegoldenglove07)
MonCapitan2002 - 1 (Smilin)
Legs - 1 (beyelzu)

I need to vote also Balluga, Jacey & Adam

Jacey
09-10-2006, 05:49 PM
I've been around and monitoring.

There's not much need for me to post. I don't have a read on anybody.

The last time I tried to participate, Smilin had me killed and told everyone I was mafia. Yup. I really should've screwed the town out of spite in that game, but I thought of the idea too late.

So, I'm just sitting back.

Legs
09-10-2006, 05:51 PM
Hi Jacey, if you had to vote right now, could you pick one name?

Leesifer
09-10-2006, 05:58 PM
Hi Jacey.

The last time I tried to participate, Smilin had me killed and told everyone I was mafia. Yup. I really should've screwed the town out of spite in that game, but I thought of the idea too late.

So, I'm just sitting back.

I know it's hard not to think back on previous games - I'll admit that's what I've been doing when trying to read people here - but this is a different game.

balluga
09-10-2006, 06:08 PM
As of right now, I suspect TGG, because he seems a little too ready to lynch anybody for any reason. I understand that he is new at this, but new people are usally hesitent to lynch the wrong person. I suspect him, but not enough to lynch him. Nobody else is on my radar at the moment.