Caribou Barbie is at it again
 

Apparently not happy to be out of the limelight for doing/saying bizarre things, Palin has done it again:

Her source for such rightwing moonbattery? Rep. Michelle Bachmann of Minnesota:

Pleez oh pleez oh pleez let this be a trial balloon for a Palin-Bachmann ticket in 2012.

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This argument in the US about healthcare is so incredibily ridiculous. What you have at the moment under private health care is a bunch of private bureaucrats who are solely profit driven (not care driven) who decide whether grandma or the down's syndrome baby are worthy of health care or not based on how profitable or costly that individual will be to the private company.

What the fuck is in the water over there? Acid?

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Also...
Be careful what you wish for. I don't credit the average right wing American with enough brains to see how laughable such a leadership would be.

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Think of the lulz that could be had if they won.

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:rughide:

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To be honest, I would be fine with saying that severely mentally retarded children will not be covered by the state health insurance (I'm talking the kind that's immobile or will require significant assistance their entire life and expensive medical interventions).

We have in utero testing, we have legal abortion - for me the decision is obvious. We will also still have private insurance, and so if you have a child like that, I think it should be your decision to find a way to pay for it or not.

I'll also cop to being a major dick tho.

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Well, the problem with genetic testing and diseases is that:
1. For the most accurate results, the pregnancy is usually pretty far along
2. The expression of genes, including trisomy 21 can be variable. Some are profoundly effected, some you couldn't tell have it.
3. There aren't tests for every genetic disease around.

It's never as cut and dried as one would wish.

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Genetic testing is still coming along. Who pays for this research -- hmm?

Interesting: BBC reports that the 3rd largest company in the world is the Brittish Health establishment. The mortality statistics would alarm Flo. Nightengale: aka Crimean Barbie in your parlance. The source material for those stats came from far less credible folk.

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This op-ed calls Palin on being a liar:

Palin’s Poison - Timothy Egan Blog - NYTimes.com

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I wanted to stand up and cheer when I read this one:

Palin + Civility equals Lies + Speechwriter

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These "Obama death panels, where do they go, where do they go?" :)

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Then it's hard to see why you'd think there should be any public health care for children, except perhaps if parents could prove that they'd lost resources through no fault of their own since electing to carry their child to term.

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Except if no-one had kids = no future taxpayers. That is also why education is and should be free.

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There's these two comments on the health care bill at opencongress.org about family planning services that I feel I should share with everyone.

They're under the table of contents for Division B, Title vii, Subtitle b, Sec. 1714: State eligibility option for family planning services.
Comment 1:
Comment 2:
Just thought I'd share those with you, in case you'd started to regain some faith in humanity.

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Hey, I know where we could get some future taxpayers, assuming no one minds that they won't be white and...oh...yah, what was I thinking.

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What bugs me is the whole us vs. them feel about the government. Do people even realize that they themselves pick the people who will be making all these laws, that they will be representatives of the people as a whole? That you get a government that looks like the people. Or in popular terms, the people get the government they deserve?

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This has always struck me as a particularly American thing. It is prolly all genetic. These are the descendants of people who emigrated from Europe to escape the evils of government, then emigrated West into new frontiers to get away from the evils of government etc. They are genetically programmed not to change the government but to get away from it.

Either that or it's culch'ral.

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True, evolution says that too, that those who were most anti-government were the ones that came over and probably did the bulk of the breeding in every generation, and this is the result. It is leading them towards the inevitable end result, a new species; Homo anarchista.

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Homo Libertarianista :(

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That is the intermediate form.

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EVOLUTION ITT! :ohno:

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Hey now, some us were just trying to escape pogroms, feudalism and religious intolerance, not all government.

:shaketrotsky:

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Well yeah.

And some were even trying to get away from religious tolerance.

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I don't know whether to laugh, cry, vomit or throw my hands up in despair. Y'all may have know this already, but I didn't. The Senator who co-sponsored the End of Life act is a Republican from Georgia.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...l?hpid=topnews

I can only hope that Sarah Palin's distortions of this issue backfire dramatically on her and every other nutjob rallying to the "death panel" cry.

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Caribou Barbie is the perfect argument for retroactive birth control and chlorinating the gene pool.