[lisarea]

I see what you're saying, but the religions we're talking about are just tools for social control. That's why pretty much every tightly controlling, partiarchal religion ends up as a big fat pedophile ring. And why any "new atheism" movement would end up the same way. And why the one we have is already so clueless.

It's just kind of weirdly controlling, trying to turn it into a big umbrella issue with leaders and all. I'm not talking about the FFRF and stuff like that, but an overall social movement. Everything's a fucking cult anymore, and I hate it.