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Old 07-23-2016, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Free will in philosphy and science

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That's debatable. Why don't you try to jump to the moon? Every time you fall down, you can try to convince yourself that you weren't "forced" to do that.
Really, do you believe Swartz’s view of the laws of nature is such that he thinks we can jump to the moon? In any case, getting a “thanks” from peacegirl ought to tip you off that you’re on the wrong path. :cheesywink:

To repeat, I would never demand that someone read everything Swartz wrote in order to intelligibly discuss his claims. But one has to be at least glancingly familiar with his main points in order to have a sensible discussion.

You could just read this. It’s not very long. Note from the linked material:

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It's true that you cannot 'violate' a law of nature, but that's not because the laws of nature 'force' you to behave in some certain way. It is rather that whatever you do, there is a true description of what you have done. You certainly don't get to choose the laws that describe the charge on an electron or the properties of hydrogen and oxygen that explain their combining to form water. But you do get to choose a great many other laws. How do you do that? Simply by doing whatever you do in fact do.
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