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Old 02-26-2019, 03:30 AM
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Investigations of the Watergate break in began in 1972. The special prosecutor wasn't the only investigation that occurred. And Mueller didn't start from scratch either. It would seem to make more sense to start the timeline from when investigations of the event began, not when a particular person was put in charge.

Also, why put up or "shut up"? We don't have the Nixon tapes this time, what is the specific reason you think it should've been done by now, particularly if he needs to be able to flip Trump associates, etc.?

And it's not clear what Mueller's goal is - is he trying to have an ironclad case to put in a court of law, and to indict Trump, is he trying to maximize the information he can get (releasing what he knows would affect his ability to get information out of some people), or is he aiming instead at the court of public opinion/trial in the senate, recognizing that Trump will probably not be able to be indicted, and the standards that Congressional Republicans will demand will go far beyond what a court of law would. If he is interested in assuring accountability for Trump, he will be aiming at a standard of evidence that will demand Congressional evidence, which is higher than a court would require if Trump were a private citizen. That might take more time.

Either way, I see no reason to assume he "should" be done by now or that there's something nefarious about him not being done. The Whitewater investigation went on for far longer and found far less of interest.

I'm less interested in what you think Pelosi indicated about her attitude towards the GND, which is inflected by not just the content or policy goals, but by presentation and tactics, but what she wants to do about environmental policy and her record on the issues. While she's not the highest scoring Democrat on that issue, she gets a better rating than, say, Bernie Sanders according to environmental groups. Neither of them are bad by any means (Joe Manchin is by far the worst, and the other outlier senators on environmental issues - Donnelly, Heitkamp, McCaskill, Nelson - all lost last year). Bennet is bit below Pelosi and Sanders.
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