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Anyway, I have it on good authority that as long as the New York Times covered the news, we must not question their editorial decisions to emphasize or de-emphasize stories.

Michael Flynn Pleads Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I. and Will Cooperate With Russia Inquiry - The New York Times

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According to prosecutors, on Dec. 22, Mr. Flynn discussed with Mr. Kislyak an upcoming United Nations Security Council vote on whether to condemn Israel’s building of settlements. At the time, the Obama administration was preparing to allow a Security Council vote on the matter.
Mr. Mueller’s investigators have learned through witnesses and documents that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel asked the Trump transition team to lobby other countries to help Israel, according to two people briefed on the inquiry. Investigators have learned that Mr. Flynn and Mr. Kushner took the lead in those efforts.
Well, case closed, it has been covered by major US media. Any criticism of their coverage would just be intended to exonerate Clinton for being a shitty candidate because it's never her fault. What would you have them do, not cover it? Dedicate the entire front page to it for a month? These are the only other options.
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:28 AM
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Does Trump even know when he's born?
Trump was an entire month off his birthday selecting July instead of June. Meanwhile Melania forgot to sign her ballot envelope, Ivanka sent it in a day late and Kushner didn't bother returning it.
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I could tell it was bad because I knew one of the answers.
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Anyway, I have it on good authority that as long as the New York Times covered the news, we must not question their editorial decisions to emphasize or de-emphasize stories.
I never said that. You're a fucking idiot.

I didn't even bother to read your post in response to my post about the Times Comey coverage because I know you're a fucking idiot and didn't want to waste my time on your usual clueless whining.

I just happened to run across your latest vomit, quoted above, by happenstance. Here is my response. You're welcome.

Note that I almost never bother reading what you write, except by accident. So there is really no reason for you to respond further, unless you want to continue to make a fool of yourself.
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Note that in the post in question, in which you displayed the front page of the Times on the Comey story, you said nothing about emphasis, but merely about reporting. Your clear implication was that you would have had the Times not report the news.

Now you've shifted over to a claim of emphasis. Sorry, Comey's decision to reopen the Clinton email investigation was big news and deserved the coverage it got. Shooting the messenger is stupid but then you are stupid.

Finally, did you actually read that lead story, plus the analysis?

Oh, I'm betting not.
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Jesus Christ. What a fucking donkey that judge nominee is.

Sen. Kennedy: Do you know what a motion in limine is?

:donkey: : Yes, again, that's not something I deal with on a daily basis, but please keep in mind that I'm on the FEC and we do lots of litigation and have lots of lawyers and America is great and look at the monkey! Look at the silly monkey!! And ....

Sen. Kennedy: 'Scuse me, but I've only got 5 minutes here. Do you know what a motion in limine is?

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Old 12-16-2017, 01:45 AM
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This whole thing reminds me more and more of Chavez’ takeover in Venezuela. Purge old competent officials and administrators, and replace with loyalists, lackeys, and ideologues who have no competence in that area.

Related reading: Tascon List. Coming to an America near you.
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Note that I almost never bother reading what you write, except by accident. So there is really no reason for you to respond further, unless you want to continue to make a fool of yourself.
I'm pretty sure that your continued posting is revealing far more negative about you than it is about me.

You should probably stick to playing for cheap laughs against delusional conspiracy theorists like peacegirl.
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Note that in the post in question, in which you displayed the front page of the Times on the Comey story, you said nothing about emphasis, but merely about reporting.
Bold move, making such a stupid statement right after you called me a fucking idiot.
Here are the relevant portions of the post in question:
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I can think of a few more humiliating debacles for the US media in the past month or in the past year.
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Past year (give or take):
I didn't say anything about reporting or emphasis. In fact, I said nothing about the image at all. I understand that this makes my meaning a little vague, but that is no basis for you to claim that I meant one thing and not another as a rebuttal to my own clarifications, you fucking idiot.
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Your clear implication was that you would have had the Times not report the news.
Please, go ahead and unpack how the fuck that works. You have the post right there. There is no such clear implication - there's no possible argument that what I said conveys that implication at all, much less that it's the only or most plausible interpretation.

Your behavior is so rancid that I have to conclude that it's not mistakes but active dishonesty and bad faith.
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Now you've shifted over to a claim of emphasis.
See this projection here? The claim that one should've taken from my original post was that I thought the NYT's coverage of the Comey letter was a debacle in some aspect. I can see how you wouldn't realize I was using it as a metonym for the media's coverage of the email scandals in general. But I got more specific about my meaning in response to your criticisms (but you claim you didn't read that post). But you're depicting me as the dishonest one here.
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Sorry, Comey's decision to reopen the Clinton email investigation was big news and deserved the coverage it got. Shooting the messenger is stupid but then you are stupid.
In other words, you're basically arguing that the narratives that the media creates and editorial decisions of emphasis are inherently justified. It's a big story because the media decided it was a big story, thus it affected the election, making it a big story. You have no argument that the substance of the scandal or the evidence described in the Comey letter were important for voters or governance or anything like that. Just a bare assertion that it was a big story. Like I said, you would never accept such arguments if they concerned anything but coverage of Hillary Clinton (or other Democrats you hate). If the subject were Israel-Palestine or the Iraq War, you would criticize similar decisions.

You have no response to this, so you set up dishonest straw men of my arguments, insult me and wave off the whole thing.

Like I said before: my god, you're full of shit.
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Oh, sure. Everybody knows what the Daubert Standard is. That's when you have certain rules for, you know, those people, but us rich and powerful and famous people don't have to follow them.
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This whole thing reminds me more and more of Chavez’ takeover in Venezuela.
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The big difference, of course, being that for all his faults, Chávez actually was a populist, whereas Trump just plays one on TV. Chávez definitely had a tendency towards demagoguery, too, though, and the parallels there are definitely alarming. At the same time, Chávez was much more competent and, frankly, smarter than Trump.

Anyway, I'm posting because of this.

Scoop: Mueller obtains "tens of thousands” of Trump transition emails - Axios

BUT THEIR EMAILS
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Rumours, rumours.



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This thread from Renato Mariotti is also well worth a read.



Edit: as is this:



Once again, shoulda listened to Stringer Bell.

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Some Al Jazeera commentary

Is Moore's defeat in Alabama a cause for celebration? | Racism | Al Jazeera (A: not very much)

Trump, tribalism and the end of American capitalism | Business & Economy | Al Jazeera (for tribalism, read racism)

Donald Trump: A president swallowed by history | Trump | Al Jazeera (Jerusalem)
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A few threads for this, so I’ll put it here:

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It's Alabama.

Fact is that people are pretty predictable, and in the US, partisan polarization has made it so that there are usually less wild swings in the vote than there might be in multiparty democracies.

A Democrat barely winning in Alabama equates to a 30-point swing from the last election. For perspective, only about 83 seats in the US House are more Republican leaning than Alabama is as a whole. A uniform 30-point swing from the partisan lean in the House would give Democrats the largest Congressional majority... ever. In the history of the US House of Representatives.

It would mean despite Democrats (+Sanders and King) having 26 seats up in the Senate to the GOP only having 8, they would gain 4 to 7 seats (depending on whether you also flip WV and ND to the GOP, and whether McCain has left the senate), winning only 2 to 4 seats out of 34 to 35 senate races.

If that were the result in the the Congressional elections, there's no question this guy would see it as incredible. Many incumbent Republicans would lose by landslide margins. But since it's only one seat, he's focused on the narrow margin in a way he would not focus on individual margins in difficult seats in a general election.

Even before the child molestation allegations, Roy Moore was running about 20 pts behind Trump, which would also be amazing. That, if replicated, would result in Republicans losing about 100 seats in the House.

Roy Moore was an unusually bad candidate not just because of the pedophilia, though, and he wasn't the incumbent, so it's fair to say that Republicans probably won't do that bad (although I wouldn't underestimate the GOP base's ability to nominate nutjobs and crooks). But you don't need to do anywhere near as well as Jones did in Alabama for Democrats to win a landslide and easily retake the House.

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But his narrow defeat [...]

Perhaps the tidal wave that put Trump in the White House and Republicans in control of all branches of government, has begun to recede.
Trump lost the popular vote and won the electoral college by winning three states by less than 1% (and Florida by about 1%). Republicans won the House popular vote by about 1%, and lost seats in both the House and Senate.

He calls that a "tidal wave" while considering the narrow victory in Alabama unremarkable, when it had been a landslide for Republicans in the past few elections.
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But if some of the worst candidates in history can be nearly elected, it means that the backward logic and disguised appeal to pre-civil war racism and women as second class citizens without voting or property rights remain powerful and dangerous.
This part is correct, but it's also correct to note that those things are much more powerful in Alabama than in the country as a whole.

And yes, it is depressing that Alabama is like that. But in the large majority of the country, Moore would've lost in a massive landslide.

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Even after seeing it repeatedly demonstrated, I'm still astonished at how bad the Republicans are at this.
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The title is impermissible? :chin:

That's interesting. I'm assuming it's not because it's a dishonest bullshit name, but based on some other rule.
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Donald Trump’s First Year Set a Record for Use of Special Operations Forces | The Nation

It's a good thing the president isn't interested in gallivanting abroad in search of dragons. He is a non-interventionist.

Hopefully, we can have some better reasoning on the left on these issues than we got in 2016. Just saying you voted against invading Iraq/were opposed to it (but not in Congress) is not a coherent foreign policy, and it won't necessarily make a difference in addressing this sort of militarism. Unfortunately, I'm not optimistic since Americans in general seem to like the militarism. Cutting the military to pay for useful programs doesn't seem like it will get much favor in the population.

A thought I've had, since I did research that was funded by DARPA but which was not obviously military-related and could easily have been funded by NSF, say. One strategy that can be used is funneling money to non-military research and infrastructure and calling it that. And then maybe later, perhaps, reorganizing?

Similar to the GOP starve-the-beast approach of cutting taxes, wailing about the deficit, and then cutting spending. Convert military spending into science and infrastructure spending, and then later say oh, this spending isn't being cut, just recategorized.
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