True Believer

[bobsavegan]

be·lieve.

[bəˈlēv]

VERB

1.accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of:
"the superintendent believed Lancaster's story" ·
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synonyms: be convinced by · trust · have confidence in ·
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2.hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose:
"I believe we've already met" ·
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synonyms: think · be of the opinion that · have an idea that ·
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[bobsavegan]

From Wikipedia...

The True Believer: Thoughts On The Nature Of Mass Movements is a 1951 social psychology book by American writer Eric Hoffer that discusses the psychological causes of fanaticism.

The book analyzes and attempts to explain the motives of the various types of personalities that give rise to mass movements; why and how mass movements start, progress and end; and the similarities between them, whether religious, political, radical or reactionary. Hoffer argues that even when their stated goals or values differ mass movements are interchangeable, that adherents will often flip from one movement to another, and that the motivations for mass movements are interchangeable. Thus, religious, nationalist and social movements, whether radical or reactionary, tend to attract the same type of followers, behave in the same way and use the same tactics and rhetorical tools. As examples, the book often refers to Communism, Fascism, National Socialism, Christianity, Protestantism, and Islam.

The first and best-known of Hoffer's books, The True Believer has been published in 23 editions between 1951 and 2002.

[Stephen Maturin]

Look, dumbass, you can't go around posting other people's stuff as if it were your own. That makes you a thief in addition to all your other charming qualities.

Had you not been a self-absorbed asshole, you might have taken a few seconds to read the terms under which people may use stuff from Wikipedia, which include attribution. But you are a self-absorbed asshole, so you didn't do that.

[bobsavegan]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Look, dumbass, you can't go around posting other people's stuff as if it were your own. That makes you a thief in addition to all your other charming qualities.

Had you not been a self-absorbed asshole, you might have taken a few seconds to read the terms under which people may use stuff from Wikipedia, which include attribution. But you are a self-absorbed asshole, so you didn't do that.

No need to call me names. Just point out my error and I will correct it.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

No need to call me names.

I know. I'm doing it as a public service, not from necessity.

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

Just point out my error and I will correct it.

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

be·lieve.

[bəˈlēv]

VERB

1.accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of:
"the superintendent believed Lancaster's story" ·
[more]

synonyms: be convinced by · trust · have confidence in ·
[more]

2.hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose:
"I believe we've already met" ·
[more]

synonyms: think · be of the opinion that · have an idea that ·
[more]

Thanks, dear, for telling us what the word "believe" means, and even providing a helpful pronunciation guide. I [bəˈlēv] this has been an edifying experience for us all.

[Stephen Maturin]

I wonder if he knows that definition from personal experience or got it from some book.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

Just point out my error and I will correct it.

The error, - Posting on a public forum.

To correct it, - Don't post on a public forum, or anywhere else.

[bobsavegan]

You ought to be thankful.

If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.

[bobsavegan]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

Thanks, dear, for telling us what the word "believe" means, and even providing a helpful pronunciation guide. I [bəˈlēv] this has been an edifying experience for us all.

Dear Flo. Thanks for getting with the program and making fun of my posts.

BTW what happened to your parody of "The Light of Love." Did you dry up your creative juices or stop drinking all that whiskey. What kind of whiskey is it?

[Sock Puppet]

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

You ought to be thankful.

If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.

There is plenty more in this forum. We just allow the Philosophy subforum to be dominated by self-important shitheads like you. Freethought Forum will get along fine without your useless bullshit.

I know, I said I wouldn't respond to your shit anymore. I've broken fewer promises than you, however; you've promised to fuck off at least a half dozen times and are still here blathering.

[bobsavegan]

Originally Posted by Sock Puppet

There is plenty more in this forum. We just allow the Philosophy subforum to be dominated by self-important shitheads like you. Freethought Forum will get along fine without your useless bullshit.

I know, I said I wouldn't respond to your shit anymore. I've broken fewer promises than you, however; you've promised to fuck off at least a half dozen times and are still here blathering.

You certainly are disrespectful. I am an old man trying to find my way.

[Sock Puppet]

No, you're not. You are a self-absorbed narcissist who refuses to learn, in favor of pretending you already know enough. You have no respect for anyone else, or you would listen once in awhile to the voices outside your head. You would read. You would question rather than assert. And from what you have posted thus far, it appears you've been like this for years. Stop pretending to be a seeker. You seek nothing.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Sock Puppet

No, you're not. You are a self-absorbed narcissist who refuses to learn, in favor of pretending you already know enough. You have no respect for anyone else, or you would listen once in awhile to the voices outside your head. You would read. You would question rather than assert. And from what you have posted thus far, it appears you've been like this for years. Stop pretending to be a seeker. You seek nothing.

Well said.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

You ought to be thankful.

If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.

FYI, picking on Peacegirl is at least amusing even if it amounts to nothing, and responding to your posts, amounts to nothing but wasting time.

[bobsavegan]

Originally Posted by thedoc

FYI, picking on Peacegirl is at least amusing even if it amounts to nothing, and responding to your posts, amounts to nothing but wasting time.

Doc. Then it is not good for you to respond to my posts and waste your time

[gentlehorse]

Originally Posted by bobsavegan

I am an old man trying to find my way.

Same here. What's that got to do with belief? Are you trying to figure out what you believe, or maybe why you believe the things you do? Do you think belief is a necessary part of the human experience? Are you trying to validate your beliefs?

[Stephen Maturin]

Out of curiosity I did a bit of Googling to see where Bob's been posting in the month since he's been away from , but it appears he died on Christmas day. He was something of an asshole, but here's hoping his demise was painless and peaceful.

[ceptimus]

David Bowie, Alan Rickman, and Bob were all 69. Lemmy had just turned 70. R.I.P.

[SR71]

69 is the new 83.