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Your inability to recognize the circularity does't mean it's not there. You are one dumb bunny. :yup:
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:41 AM
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"Immunizations are the best way to protect infants and children from childhood diseases, like whooping cough and measles that can be life-threatening at young ages. It is critical for parents to talk to their child’s doctor to ensure they are up-to-date on immunizations, because no child should have to suffer a vaccine-preventable illness.”
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[DTaP is the shot that killed my son.
peacegirl, what data support that claim? What evidence is there that it should be accepted as truthful?
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The dude's a former ultimate fighter who runs his own gym! Christ Almighty, Chuck, what more do you want?! :glare:
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:19 PM
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If a healthy child gets a shot and drops dead the next minute...
Woah, someone dropped dead the next minute? Who?
Certainly not the child we were talking about, who died over 2 weeks after.
You missed the point I was making. But said that even if a child died immediately after a jab, it is still not proof that the jab caused the death. As far as a delay between the time the shot was given and the death, the shot could still be responsible. I wonder how many unvaccinated children (who are not in the SIDS age category) die suddenly without warning. They should do a study on this if they haven't already.
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Old 10-14-2017, 02:57 PM
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I wonder how many unvaccinated children (who are not in the SIDS age category) die suddenly without warning. They should do a study on this if they haven't already.
We've been over this in this thread before. Another memory reset, I guess. The relevant study found that SIDS occurs slightly more often without vaccination. So at least the correlation goes the other way. But beware, correlation doesn't equal causation! This doesn't tell you that the vaccine lowers the risk of sudden infant death, it's also possible that people who don't vaccinate their babies are more likely to be dumbfucks who get drunk and fall asleep on them.
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I wonder how many unvaccinated children (who are not in the SIDS age category) die suddenly without warning. They should do a study on this if they haven't already.
I wonder how many unvaccinated children die of easily preventable diseases, just because they have ignorant parents.
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Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Mawson Homeschooled Study Reveals Who is Sicker

POSTED BY CELESTE MCGOVERN ON MAY 4, 2017 4:30:44 PM

It’s never been done before. The first-of-its-kind study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated American homeschooled children shows who is really ailing…and parents should be worried

Something is wrong with America’s children. They are sick – allergic, asthmatic, anxious, autoimmune, autistic, hyperactive, distracted and learning disabled. Thirty-two million American children – a full 43% of them – suffer from at least one of 20 chronic illnesses not including obesity. Across the board, once rare pediatric disorders from autism and ADD to Type 1 diabetes and Tourette’s syndrome are soaring, though few studies pool the data. Compared to their parents, children today are four times more likely to have a chronic illness. And while their grandparents might never have swallowed a pill as children, the current generation of kids is a pharmaceutical sales rep’s dream come true: More than one million American children under five years old takes a psychiatric drug. More than 8.3 million kids under 17 have consumed psychiatric drugs, and in any given month one in four is taking at least one prescription drug for something.

Fast food, bad genes, too much TV, video games, pesticides, plastics – name the environmental factor and it has been implicated in the surge of sickness, although none adequately explains the scale or scope of the epidemic. There is one exposure, however, that has evaded the search, despite that children have received it by direct injection in steadily accumulating doses far beyond anything past generations ever saw: 50 doses of 14 vaccines by age six, 69 doses of 16 pharmaceutical vaccines containing powerfully immune-altering ingredients by age 18.

cont. at: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Mawson Homeschooled Study Reveals Who is Sicker
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Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Mawson Homeschooled Study Reveals Who is Sicker

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It’s never been done before. The first-of-its-kind study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated American homeschooled children shows who is really ailing…and parents should be worried
The Mawson “vaxed/unvaxed” study retraction: The antivaccine movement reacts with tears of unfathomable sadness – Respectful Insolence
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Medication and Vaccine Adverse Reactions and the Orexin - Hypocretin Neurons- Hormones Matter
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A recent paper published in Science Translational Medicine, provides preliminary evidence that the H1N1 Flu Vaccine Pandemrix can evoke immune system mediated damage to the orexin – hypocretin neurons and induce narcolepsy in individuals with a particular genetic variant.
Retraction of the Research Article: "CD4+ T cell autoimmunity to hypocretin/orexin and cross-reactivity to a 2009 H1N1 influenza A epitope in narcolepsy" | Science Translational Medicine

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A recent paper published in Science Translational Medicine, provides preliminary evidence that the H1N1 Flu Vaccine Pandemrix can evoke immune system mediated damage to the orexin – hypocretin neurons and induce narcolepsy in individuals with a particular genetic variant.
Retraction of the Research Article: "CD4+ T cell autoimmunity to hypocretin/orexin and cross-reactivity to a 2009 H1N1 influenza A epitope in narcolepsy" | Science Translational Medicine

Retraction of their article did not mean their theory was wrong. They couldn't confirm their findings to prove their case so they removed it. It has already been established that the Gardisil vaccine is causing narcolepsy in some susceptible girls. They are just trying to pinpoint the mechanism.
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Retraction of their article did not mean their theory was wrong.
Yes, that's basically what it means.

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That's a different vaccine.
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Retraction of their article did not mean their theory was wrong.
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They couldn't confirm their findings to prove their case so they removed it. It has already been established that the Gardisil vaccine is causing narcolepsy in some susceptible girls. They are just trying to pinpoint the mechanism.
That's a different vaccine.
A recent paper published in Science Translational Medicine, provides preliminary evidence that the H1N1 Flu Vaccine Pandemrix can evoke immune system mediated damage to the orexin – hypocretin neurons and induce narcolepsy in individuals with a particular genetic variant. The orexin – hypocretin neurons were only recently discovered in the mid 1990s, by two separate research groups, hence, the two names for the same molecule. For this paper, we’ll be utilizing the orexin nomenclature.

Initially, the orexin neurons were thought to be involved only in feeding behavior, as damage elicited hypophagia in animals. Soon it was learned that more severe damage to the orexin neurons induced narcolepsy and the orexin system became a key focus in narcolepsy related research. With time, however, it became quite clear that these neurons were involved in regulating a myriad of hormone and neurotransmitter systems and their consequent behaviors. Narcolepsy or rather the ability to sustain wakefulness, is but one of the many functions regulated by the orexin system.

In a previous paper, I touched briefly on the possibility that the orexin neurons might be damaged and have diminished functionality in individuals suffering from post Gardasil side effects. In particular, I suspected these neurons were indicated in post-Gardasil hypersomnia, a derivative of narcolepsy. That may be only the tip of the iceberg. As I soon learned, the hypocretin/orexin neurons are brain energy sensors and may be involved in array of post medication or vaccine adverse reactions. Indeed, they may be central to the ensuing state of sickness behaviors that emanate once an organism becomes overwhelmed.

Medication and Vaccine Adverse Reactions and the Orexin - Hypocretin Neurons- Hormones Matter
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FactCheck: No, the reported side effects of the HPV vaccine do NOT outweigh the proven benefits

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Verdict: FALSE (by a very wide margin)
  • Repeated studies and clinical trials have shown HPV vaccines like Gardasil to be very effective in preventing the virus which leads to most cervical cancers
  • Repeated studies and clinical trials have shown HPV vaccines to be very safe, and potential allergic reactions and possible side effects to be extremely rare
  • What little scientific research has been done contradicting this overwhelming consensus, has consistently been shown to be flawed and unreliable
  • There is no evidence to show that the illnesses highlighted by the group Regret were caused by the HPV vaccine
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FactCheck: No, the reported side effects of the HPV vaccine do NOT outweigh the proven benefits

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Claim: The side effects of the HPV vaccine outweigh the benefits
Verdict: FALSE (by a very wide margin)
  • Repeated studies and clinical trials have shown HPV vaccines like Gardasil to be very effective in preventing the virus which leads to most cervical cancers
  • Repeated studies and clinical trials have shown HPV vaccines to be very safe, and potential allergic reactions and possible side effects to be extremely rare
  • What little scientific research has been done contradicting this overwhelming consensus, has consistently been shown to be flawed and unreliable
  • There is no evidence to show that the illnesses highlighted by the group Regret were caused by the HPV vaccine
This is the same denial repeated over and over again. The callousness regarding those that have been hurt by vaccines is disgusting. The balance of risk over benefit is a family decision, not made by a government entity. You can vaccinate your 11 year old daughter with Gardisil if you so choose, but that does not entitle you to tell other parents what they must do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54qSggykqKc&t=187s
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The callousness regarding those that have been hurt by vaccines is disgusting.
I have nothing but sympathy for your fictional children who got vaccinated and dropped dead the next day. The pain you must feel - I can hardly conceive...
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I have nothing but sympathy for your fictional children who got vaccinated and dropped dead the next day. The pain you must feel - I can hardly conceive...
Vaccine injury and death is not fictional. You are in denial!

Heartbreaking Accounts of Vaccine Injury

Heartbreaking stories of vaccine-injury. #vaxwithme #vaxxed
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And still no scientific evidence that vaccines are responsible.
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Later this month I will be giving a guest lecture on human research ethics for a local graduate class. I have just started developing my materials, but my basic topic will be about the emergence and evolution of informed consent and independent ethical review as the twin foundations of postwar human subjects protections, and the various ways in which they have been build into the regulatory system. One of the major takeaways will the immense human suffering out of which these concepts grew, and the immense human suffering that results when unethical research doesn't comply with these basic moral and legal norms.

Andy Wakefield's unethical medical research on children - and all of the damage that has flowed from it - will play an important role as a cautionary tale of what happens when unethical quacks are invited to exploit children for their own economic gain, unrestrained by independent ethical oversight.

Happily I have already done most of the research in the course of this thread.
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Vaccine injury and death is not fictional. You are in denial!

Heartbreaking Accounts of Vaccine Injury

Heartbreaking stories of vaccine-injury. #vaxwithme #vaxxed
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Now that is a site filled to the brim with quality information! Not only starring the usual crowd of loony quacks, they have an "article" titled "The Origin of AIDS: The Polio Vaccine"! Also a whole section about Shaken Baby Syndrome!

Jesus, what a bunch of idiots.
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