Bend Over, Facebook is Back

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Janet

I'm taking a class on Coursera that I thought would be psychology but is more behavioral economics. The first week's readings were all about defaults and how easy it is to control behavior just by setting defaults. Most people will not bother to change from the default, no matter what it is. All the time I was reading I felt queasy about how Facebook and other sites no doubt use that research to get us to let them invade our privacy and use our behavior to sell more stuff to us.

Is that anchoring, or am I thinking of something else?

[Ymir's blood]

Originally Posted by Adam

SO, OK, the real question that everyone is avoiding.

Why hasn't vm written Home yet? Surely, it's just a simple matter of programming for to take control of my phone and tablet.

livius would use that distraction to pounce.

[MonCapitan2002]

Originally Posted by lisarea

LOL 96 days. I eat zombie threads older than that for breakfast.

Om Malik: Why Facebook Home bothers me: It destroys any notion of privacy

I think it's time to bring back the classics. Now where did I put that rusty crowbar? It's time for me to introduce it to Mark Zuckerberg.

[lisarea]

Alright, MonCap. If this new feature doesn't finally win you over to Facebook, I'm sure I don't know what will:

Facebook Will Peer Into Your Grocery Bag to Sell an Ad | Wired Business | Wired.com

[viscousmemories]

But Facebook’s ultra-targeting raises the question of just how closely it can stalk consumers before such tracking gets creepy and alienating.

Based on the fact that hundreds of millions of people haven't yet become creeped and alienated enough to stop using the service, I'm guessing they can go all the way.

[MonCapitan2002]

Originally Posted by lisarea

Alright, MonCap. If this new feature doesn't finally win you over to Facebook, I'm sure I don't know what will:

Facebook Will Peer Into Your Grocery Bag to Sell an Ad | Wired Business | Wired.com

Fuck! Okay. Fuck the rusty crowbar. I think Facebook and its owners, investors, principal executives and all commercial sponsors need to be introduced to several petatons of instant sunshine. It's the only way to be sure. Facebook is a cancer and it needs to burned to the root. Destroy them utterly so that the fuckers can never rise again.

[But]

Roger, I hear that the bloody faceshit wants to go "online", I mean "launch the stock market".

[But]

Mr. Zuckerberg, here's one to your face. I mean, in your face. I predict it's not going to go like you expect.

[But]

Playing with people is dangerous business. Even if you think they're all your friends. I mean, it's going to be the biggest launch in the history of "stock market timing". Do you know who invented that shit?

I'm talking to you, Mr. Zuckershitface.

[But]

Mr. Zuckerfaceberg, do you know what the operating principle (of an interferometrically working milling machine) is, I mean, one that works in all spatial directions at once?

[But]

I guess.. NO

[But]

Oh shit, the network here is (somewhat synchronized) to face(shit)book.com

[But]

Let's change that a bit

[But]

I have some old remnants of "kinetic energy" projectiles that are peeled off their tender tungsten arrows by the force of wind when they leave their smooth-barreled home, faster than a sniper's bullet, and they are more accurate,even over long distances.

[But]

This is my weekend, and this weekend I'm a bad person. Promise.

[Crumb]

[But]

Poo, I've balmed down. If The Zuckertort ever comes into my vicinity, I only have a butter creme present for his Facebook. With almond splitters.

[But]

The bad part about the facebook nonsense is that you don't even have to click "Like" buttons to tell facebook whether you like something or not. They are web bugs.

[lisarea]

More on Facebook's shadow profiles.

Firm: Facebook's shadow profiles are 'frightening' dossiers on everyone | ZDNet

The moral of the story is that the blabbiest and most gullible person you know sets the security level for your personal information, and Facebook's data security is such that pretty much anyone might end up with it.

[ChristinaM]

I have to be on FB for business and they force you to have a personal page too. I finally found a use for mine because a customer friended that page instead of liking my business page and proceeded to shower me with all sorts of wisdom from the religious right. Now I get to spam liberal godless heathen stuff and know that I'm pissing at least one person off. I think that I have 14 friends but only actually know and like 3 of them and the rest are people that I didn't want to be rude to. I'm winding down part of my business because of a wrist injury and the minute that I'm done I'm deleting those pages and never letting that on my computer again.

[Janet]

I guess that explains it. I got a bug fix letter from Facebook telling me that they had exposed my e-mail address to "at most one person". Trouble is, it wasn't the e-mail address attached to my Facebook account. It was my work e-mail address that I've never given to Facebook. The actual release of it didn't bother me too much as ALA has made it public for years, but I still found it strange.

[lisarea]

The thing that bothers me the most about it, for personal reasons, is the shadow profiles of non-members. I can and have opted out of those stupid invitations people can send you, but I can't tell Facebook to remove my information entirely. I made the decision not to give Facebook my information, but people I know vetoed me.

That's one the major reasons I think that it should be considered a HUGE etiquette breach to give someone else's personal information to anyone ever without their explicit permission, whether it's contact scraping or individually sent 'invitations' or subscriptions or anything.

[Janet]

I agree. I keep getting LinkedIn invitations to my work e-mail from people I've contacted or even people whose booths I visited at a conference once. Add that to the way Gmail, and probably other e-mail providers, add anyone you've sent or read a message from to your contacts whether you want them to or not, and there is virtually no way to communicate using e-mail without Facebook or someone else getting your information.

[Dingfod]

I thought I got LinkedIn notices because I've a LinkedIn account. Maybe it's FB.

[Janet]

I do have a LinkedIn account, but as with Facebook it has a different e-mail address than the one getting the invitations.