4 SF cops were cleared of any wrong doing after they unloaded 59 bullets at a latino man holding a tazer. Why, because they felt 'threatened' of course. Only 10 of the 59 shots hit their target. Protecting the neighborhood with 49 stray bullets.
That's the problem right there. They are protecting themselves and each other, nobody else. Occupation forces.
Alabama has had to make a humiliating international apology for its police. Looks like it can't just be swept under the racist carpet this time.
BTW Alabama, "excessive force" makes it sound like you think less force would have been okay. That's bullshit. There was no call for any force at all in dealing with this harmless peaceable foreigner. What the fuck did your police officers think they were doing? Because to the rest of world, it looks like the Alabama cops just brutalised a black person for the fun of it.
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This is the reason that police dogs make me uncomfortable. Basically the same reason I am uncomfortable with stupid human cops, because you're training someone with limited mental capacity to do violence to others.
A former Florida police officer has admitted to forcing undocumented immigrants into having sex with him.
Jonathan Bleiweiss, 34, pleaded guilty to an array of charges last week, admitting to 14 counts of armed false imprisonment, 15 counts of battery and four counts of stalking. However, he avoided all of the charges with "sex" in them.
Most likely due to his police officer status, this former Broward Sheriff’s deputy was given an insultingly lenient plea deal. As part of that deal, Bleiweiss did not face charges of sexual battery, and as such will not be required by the state of Florida to register as a sex offender.
A group of approximately 20 undocumented immigrants alleged that Bleiweiss, harassed them, molested them during pat-downs, and threatened them with deportation if they refused to perform sex acts. [...]
In the end, Bleiweiss was charged with arbitrary battery charges relating to patdowns he conducted while on duty; nothing else.
The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.
The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.
Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:
Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
Shackling for prolonged periods.
Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.
At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.
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The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.
The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.
Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:
Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
Shackling for prolonged periods.
Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.
At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.
Charlie Pierce has more on this. Worth reading, as usual.
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This story is so horrible that not even Wonkette was able to snark about it.
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“Tamir Rice is in the wrong,” he said. “He’s menacing. He’s 5-feet-7, 191 pounds. He wasn’t that little kid you’re seeing in pictures. He’s a 12-year-old in an adult body.
On one hand, 5'7" is big for a 12 year old. On the other hand, 5'7" is below average for an adult. On the third hand, 191 pounds puts a lot of bulk on someone who is 5'7". On the fourth hand, if someone 5'7" is intimidating you should rethink your chosen career. On the fifth hand, anyone holding a gun can be frightening. On a final hand, is it too much to ask the police to learn how to handle their fear response so they can do a job without killing people?
I've seen the security cam video. In the space of one frame Loomis proved his superiors from Independence correct: He is a fuck up. He makes bad decisions under pressure. His partner in Cleveland fucked up and put him in a terrible position and he made a horrible decision that got a child killed. If the Cleveland PD had done their homework this may have had a less terrible outcome.
So i was watching those police shoot that homeless man to death and it made me mad. things are getting a bit crazy.
but this thread isn't helping things. this whole fuck the police thing is totally reactionary and not thought out. i think it's making things worse.
i used to really be annoyed by the police, but then i've always had issues with authority. now that i'm an old man i realize that we need authority. we need muscle out on the street keeping the rules. i am now at a place where i think authority should be respected as they don't have an easy job, but i don't think it should be worshipped or feared. we don't need a thousand cop shows or threads like this all over the internet.
there are a lot of good police. i know two of them personally. i have had dealing with very nice officers. my friends and i had police cut us breaks when we were breaking minor laws as teens. i have seen good police with kind faces you just know are honest.
i have also met shitty officers and was actually roughed up by one as a teen when i actually wasn't doing anything except walking the street later than he thought i should and because my friend was wearing a wine skin around his neck- just dorky teens coming home from a party, waiting for the bus. this cop actually lifted my buddy off his feet by his neck and whacked my shoulder hard and threw me against a wall...and i have seen all the shitty things posted here. i work in news and this shit sells.
it's important to report abuse, but we are at a point where all the good that the police do is being forgotten for the shitty things they do. and taking their tax collector duties out of the mix, they actually do more good than harm.
it's true that they act like a gang, but they are socially different from the average person. their responsibilities change the person they used to be and i think after a while they can mostly only relate with one another. this growing hatred for the police is causing ALL police to close ranks. it is further removing them from the average joe. the public is setting the tone for what authority stands for and it seems they begin to act accordingly. then you have to consider what kind of person signs up nowadays to be a cop? to go into a job where you know you'll be feared or hated. it seems it would attract more and more self-righteous asshole bullies. jocks in the worst sense of the word.
i'm not saying police abuse shouldn't be reported, but i just get this sense that all the hate thrown their way is being returned by people who can seriously hurt or kill you. we shouldn't forget the good things they do, which i'd wager is much more than the bad. i don't know...i just don't think the spirit of this thread becoming more and more normal is a good thing. it's not well thought out. i don't expect many of you to agree with me, especially because it IS me, but i just felt a need to rant...the police are necessary, but it is the public that determines what kind of police they are.
maybe more programs that bring the public and the police together in ways that side-step authority?
i'm sure smarter people than myself could come up with something. i'm just pointing out what i see as a wrong direction to take in getting the problem to stop.
i guess not making things worse on both sides could help. cooler heads all around.
"Don't rock the boat" must rank among the most discredited advice ever offered to those who want to end injustice. It amounts to "Accept things as they are and leave it to your betters to make any necessary adjustments".
You say that better understanding would help. Isn't a better understanding exactly what a thread like this offers its readers? And on the other hand, isn't a better understanding exactly what would be withheld by following your counsel of silent respect for, and complicity in, the murderous activities of authority figures?
not once did i say to not report abuse. if that's what you mean by rocking the boat- you are misdirecting. is that intentional? because i also never claimed more of this shit isn't happening. i said right off the top it made me mad.
this isn't understanding. this is expressed outrage and fear. there is no consideration of the other side at all.
But you don't even have that little, unless you can say how you actually come to quantify the harm done and the good done and how you arrive at the negative balance you talk about.
...this thread isn't helping things. this whole fuck the police thing is totally reactionary and not thought out. i think it's making things worse.
I seriously doubt that this particular thread is making things worse or better. I mean, it's not like anyone links to
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A rape on an 11-year-old was excused as CONSENSUAL GODDAMN SEX?!?!?! Hello D.C. cops, I don't mean to tell you your business, but I think that 11-year-olds are statutorily incapable of consenting to sex. Even if you didn't think you could prevail on a charge of forcible rape, you had a slam-dunk statutory rape charge because you had the FUCKING PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of two rape kits! And then you had the sheer gall and cruelty to have the VICTIM CHARGED AND SENT TO JAIL?!?!?!?!
I'm not generally a violent person, but here I'm tempted to endorse flogging the cops responsible with a cat o' nine tails constructed out of razor wire for the edification of their colleagues.
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Also, last night, there was a dog whining really loudly out in front of the house, but the trees in the yard were blocking my view, so I walked out to the front to check the mailbox and just make sure there wasn't an injured dog lying on the street or something. But it was just a couple of police SUVs, one with a police dog. And as soon as I walked down my driveway, that dog lost its shit completely, snarling and barking and banging around like it was trying to get out.
So then, just out of curiosity, I came inside and listened to the police radio to see if I could find out what the hell the pigs were all doing in front of my house, but I couldn't make out what they were saying over the sounds of the dog's continuing freakout.
This being one of the highly trained police dogs the cops bring around to schools and fairs to do demonstrations for little kids.
A pig is under arrest for murder after blowing away a black man who was running away from him in North Charleston, S.C. The only reason law-'n'-order conservatives and pig advocacy groups aren't screaming at any idiot with a microphone about how it's hard to be a cop and how we have no business passing judgment on the officer's actions because we weren't there is that the murder was filmed.
The pig fired eight fucking rounds at the guy while he was running away, four of which hit the victim in the back. The pig then runs up and orders the corpse to put his hands behind his back. It's a scene right out of one of those SNL "Ex-Police" sketches, except the murder is real.
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The policeman shot him because he was too lazy to chase after him. So lazy, the cop must have left his drop gun in the car and had to go back and find his tazer to plant on the guy before the second policeman showed up on the scene.
Like the commentator on CNN said last night, the Mayor is doing all the right things....because they had the video.
Otherwise, he'd have shot a thug trying to assault an officer.
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