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[lisarea]

Oh, guys. This is really good. It's stuff probably anyone who reads this thread already kind of knows, but please read it anyway.

10 Words Every Girl Should Learn | Alternet

(Also, boys need to learn that girls need to learn crap like this.)

[Angakuk]

Just when did this thread become a soapbox for vile and vitupretive feminist rhetoric?

Also, I interrupt everybody, all the time.

Oh, excuse me, were you saying something?

[The Man]

I guess this can go here

Rare good news: More than 60 women and girls escape Boko Haram abductors in Nigeria.

[Janet]

Years ago when I was down on relationships, my best friend challenged me to find examples of good husbands I knew. My response, almost immediately, were my friends Bill and Lloyd. One thing they had in common was that both had written blog posts about how infuriating it was for them when people asked if they were babysitting their kids.

But that's not what I came here to post. I just read an anti-trigger warning article that made me more for them than any of the pro ones I've read. I take second place to few in my love of Python, but 'here's what WASP, middle class, Oxbridge educated men can teach you about what's wrong with feminism' is just on.

[ShottleBop]

What about, "My eyes are up here"?

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by ShottleBop

What about, "My eyes are up here"?

I am fond of "they don't talk"

[viscousmemories]

'Like a Girl' Viral Video Strikes a Chord With Young Women | Video - ABC News

[Crumb]

Originally Posted by lisarea

Oh, guys. This is really good. It's stuff probably anyone who reads this thread already kind of knows, but please read it anyway.

10 Words Every Girl Should Learn | Alternet

(Also, boys need to learn that girls need to learn crap like this.)

I don't understand this bit from that article:

The first time I ran this post, I kid you not, the first response I got was from a Twitter user, a man, who, without a shred of self-awareness, asked, "What would you say if a man said those things to you mid-conversation?"

What point is that guy trying to make, and why is she mentioning it here? I'm not sure what this means. Please to be ladysplaining.

[BrotherMan]

If a man were to say to a woman "Stop interrupting me," "I just said that," or "No explanation needed," it would be considered sexist and demeaning. The implication of his statement is that it must be sexist and or demeaning if anyone says it. More or less a long form of WHAT ABOUT TEH MENS? In effect, mansplaining to a woman what equality and sexism should really be about.

[Crumb]

[Janet]

She means that the comment was saying that she would find it rude if a man said that so teaching it to girls was wrong, or some such. A man who didn't get the point that men routinely interrupt and that's why these phrases are needed.

I have to share this, because it's killing me. I spent the weekend with my female best friend and was at her house when I posted about the trigger warnings. Since I was on here, I decided to show her the beauty of and explained the background. When I was telling her about my realization that men are rude about my weight because I am implicitly telling them their attraction doesn't matter to me she actually said it was bad of me to suggest that all men do that.



This woman, who had just hosted a tea party (with me doing the cooking) for what amounted to an all-female support group just spouted this ridiculous BS. I was baffled at how she could buy into this crap. Makes me wonder what that group of hers actually does, because it certainly doesn't seem to involve questioning the patriarchy.

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Janet

I decided to show her the beauty of

Originally Posted by Janet

and explained the background.

You explained the entire history of the founding of , liv's conversion from smilie sceptic to smilie queen, bey's giant dick nature, his assimilation by the Borg, and the evolution of the return to gender and misandry threads? Because all those things and more are contained within . You cannot understand it in isolation.

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Janet

This woman, who had just hosted a tea party (with me doing the cooking) for what amounted to an all-female support group just spouted this ridiculous BS. I was baffled at how she could buy into this crap. Makes me wonder what that group of hers actually does, because it certainly doesn't seem to involve questioning the patriarchy.

In which Janet questions the partyarchy.

[Janet]

Mainly I just started with, "look what my awesome friends made me because I wanted a sign that said Your Boner Means Nothing to Me for a protest rally."

I wasn't even here when Liv was a smiley skeptic and that idea doesn't fit in my reality at all.

[The Lone Ranger]

Originally Posted by Janet

Memo to The Raw Story:

1) Saint Clair, Michigan and Saint Clair Shores, Michigan are two different places. Your story did not mention the right one.

2) It would have been nice if you had mention that the reason the MRA conference was moved from Detroit to Saint Clair Shores was because of a protest organized and carried out by women. But I guess that would have actually involved given them credit for accomplishing something and we can't have that.

Did you read the story about it in Sunday's edition of The Ann Arbor News? It's downright surreal. It's titled, "Men Maligned, Demand Equal Rights," and is by Monica Hesse.

If the title isn't a sufficient clue regarding the article's take on things, it's worth reading for the sheer amazement value. In it, the author repeats, mostly unchallenged, the assertions that men are an oppressed group, unfairly discriminated against by women. If you read only the first several paragraphs, and take them at face value, then you're going to come away thinking that our society is deeply anti-male, that the vast majority of rape accusations are due to "buyer's remorse" on the "slutty" woman's part, etc., etc.

It's only near the end of the piece that the author finally points out that maybe, just maybe, not all of the MRAs' claims are actually true.

[Ari]

Those poor mens! So emotional and easy to insult.
They should pussy up and grow a pair of ovaries if they want to make it in this womans world!

[beyelzu]

Some redditor a were discussing why there are so many puas in Toronto, many of them decided it was cuz of the declining state of being a man, srsly. I agreed it was a long slow decline, why just a decade or so ago they had a female prime minister and Hillary could be pres.

It's amazing the stupid shit people believe

[livius drusus]

Originally Posted by Janet

I wasn't even here when Liv was a smiley skeptic and that idea doesn't fit in my reality at all.

By the time opened, I was already a convert. It was during the creation of the forum that what began as an attempt to put together a decent, workmanlike basic set became a revelation and then a madness. It came as quite a surprise to the people who had known me at IIDB.

[ShottleBop]

Interesting article on one of the results of making folks "independent contractors," as opposed to "employees": From sexual demands to being made to strip, models and others detail true horrors -- and how jerks get away with it.

[Janet]

Interestingly enough, that article is not on the Ann Arbor News website, as far as I can find. It took me a while, but I found out it was originally from the Washington Post with a very different title. I know local papers often retitle wire stories, but the Ann Arbor was seriously slanted compared to the original. Men's Rights Activists, Gathering to Discuss all the ways Society has Done Them Wrong is less supportive and more sarky, at least to me.

[The Man]

Today's edition of People Are Terrible:

#Jadapose: A disgusting Twitter hashtag spreads in response to a Houston girl’s sexual assault allegations.

Frankly, every single person who spread these photos should be charged with possession and distribution of child pornography.

[The Man]

Tennessee sucks.

Tennessee Makes First Controversial Arrest Under New Pregnancy Criminalization Law

Also:

[lisarea]

The Problem with Esquire's Praise of 42-Year-Old Women & Amy Poehler | New Republic

BTW, if anyone is interested in that Tom Junod piece, here is a picture of the 56 year old piece of ABC gum who so generously deemed Sofia Vergara fuckable.

[BrotherMan]

For the longest time I avoided that show she's on Family Ground, In the Middle of Madness... Modern Family, that's it, because every time someone brought up her name it was either preceded or followed by how attractive the person found her. So I was really blown away when I finally watched the show and she is completely hilarious and superbly talented. She's probably super serious about her career and stuff (you'd have to be to get at that level) but at the same time she doesn't take herself too seriously and has fun with the persona she presents. And I was one of the maybe 10 people who found the show she produced (Dangerous Women or whtaever) to be somewhat enjoyable.

Okay. Now I'm going to do my reading assignment, pea.

[Ensign Steve]

Yeah, she's one of the best characters on that show, and that show has a lot of great characters. She is super tough, she raised Manny on her own as a single mom in Columbia. She and Jay are very much in love, and neither one of them will take any shit from anyone about their marriage being about looks or money or anything but love.