A revolution in thought

[davidm]

peacegirl is still soldiering away at another board, yammering about the same old stuff in exactly the same posting style, but she isn't getting much attention. She seems to be down to one interlocutor. Someone else tried to help her formalize her argument, and predictably she got pissed at that effort to help.

[davidm]

Peacegirl Lulz Update

For those who can still muster a single give a shit, peacegirl this month signed up on yet another new forum, The Center for Skeptical Inquiry. Her thread is here.

And, once again, she titles her thread “A Revolution in Thought” and explains why in the first post.

On her sixth post on the very first page of her brand-spanking new thrad, she has this to say, after her interlocutors ask for a summary of the great “discovery.”

How can you expect an important discovery such as this (if his claims are valid, which they are) in a few sentences? Do you think it’s fair to discuss someone’s 30+ year work with such reductionism? Srsly!! This is not my first rodeo and I know how people think in these forums, which is unfortunate because it is these very people who could understand this book but only if they understand it in its entirety which will take more than a cursory look.

This is not peacegirl’s first rodeo!

That’s our peacegirl! Start a thread with a grandiose title that already screams, “Hallooo, I’m a Crackpot,” then write down some gibberish about how the secret to ending all evil lies locked behind the door marked “determinism.” When asked to summarize the idea, throw a tantrum! All on the first page! Her special charm is that never, ever learns anything.

A few pages in, someone spots the modal fallacy in her argument and even links to the same Norman Swartz essay that I did. I only wish I had been there to inform him that I linked her to that essay four years ago.

Earlier today, after a few days with no thread activity, peacegirl wrote this:

Don’t have much time to spare, but I just wanted to say how very surprised I am that no one has responded. It’s amazing to me that a center for inquiry has no inquiry. It seems to me (I may be wrong) that when a position is different from those who have a different point of view, the stamp of disapproval will be swift and sure. Is this fair? If this is the final decree that Lessans had nothing to offer, where is this author to go? I know that forums are not the answer. I just wanted to express myself. I will move on to other venues that will at the very least read the text. No one has done that, and yet he is already being condemned for being a troll. This just shows me that this “think tank” is nothing more than regurgitating what has already been regurgitated. Lois clarified that when she said that there has been no such idea in the literature that we should not blame and punish. Hellooooooo. I will repeat that this knowledge is unprecedented so how could any philosopher know the implications of this particular philosopher who was never given a chance. It’s really sad, but I know deep down (which helps to give me peace of mind) that this is how is has to be until it is not how it has to be. That is the gift of determinism.

She knows that forums are not the answer.

OK, Spacemonkey and thedoc, sign up over there and give peacegirl some of the feedback she says she wants. You know you want to.

Hell, they haven’t even gotten to light and sight yet!

[naturalist.atheist]

The Horror (Marlon Brando) - YouTube

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by davidm

Her special charm is that never, ever learns anything.

Including without limitation how to use a message board quote function. That particular deficiency is, of course, a universal calling card of crackpots, kind of a karmic truth-in-advertising thing.

But hey, why should peacegirl make an effort to learn anything? She's there to teach, not to learn.

I'm especially fond of this:

Originally Posted by davidm

Earlier today, after a few days with no thread activity, peacegirl wrote this:

This from someone who quite literally has nothing to do and all day to do it. I suppose she figures this little fib will generate oceans of gratitude from her audience. But hey, delusions are peacegirl's stock in trade. It's more than a little pitiful that she can't help referring to ol' Seymour, who's been dead nearly a quarter-century, in the present tense.

[davidm]

From today:

BreakUp - 29 March 2015 07:29 PM
Hello, just a quick note, I’ve read the book, ask Janis about “instant vision”.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You are creating new names for yourself and following me around the internet. I think you’re Spacemonkey and I have no desire to talk to you.

And then, in the very next post, peacegirl again responds to BreakUp.

OK, folks, fess up, who is BreakUp? Is it ? I'm undecided; it's not his style but then again he makes an eminently intelligent post about free will/determinism a bit further down, so it could be Possibly it's thedoc. It sure ain't me! I'm off the peacegirl junk, though like Chauncey Gardiner, "I like to watch."

[LadyShea]

Did she finally give up on ilovephilosophy?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

Did she finally give up on ilovephilosophy?

Peacegirl's last post was -
" Re: Determinism
Postby peacegirl » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:43 am"
on ILP.

But it seems that the big question on everyone's mind is "Who is BreakUp?"

[davidm]

Wow, GdB really is a pretentious, airy git, isn't he?

A rather turgid discussion has greatly improved since N.A. and BreakUp joined. There's no doubt that BreakUp is thedoc; the retirement comment gave it away.

If BreakUp was Spacemonkey, then he would already have been asking about these photons.

[naturalist.atheist]

Ahhh yes... those rascal photons... good times!

[davidm]

You're certainly doing a good job irritating GdB, N.A.

[naturalist.atheist]

As you all know, it is a small talent I have.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

As you all know, it is a small talent I have.

And we all appreciate people with small talents, it makes the rest of us look good.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by thedoc

And we all appreciate people with small talents, it makes the rest of us look good.

I suppose there is always hope.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

I suppose there is always hope.

Yes, and I'm hoping that it's soon nap time, I need to check my eyelids for light leaks.

[But]

Has anyone put a link to this thread there yet?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by But

Has anyone put a link to this thread there yet?

Yes DavidM included one in post # 41702.

[davidm]

He's asking if anyone at the CSI thread has linked to this thread.

[LadyShea]

This could be read as rounding up and dealing with people.."removing people" not "removing from office" or "remove from their positions". How poorly written!

Assuming that you fully understand what it means that man’s will is

not free, the next step in our blueprint (our diagram of how it is now

possible to remove all evil from our lives) is to remove from around

the entire earth, regardless of who gets displaced, all those people who

are in any way associated with blame including the leaders and their

subordinates (remember, everything is exactly the same except for the

written test and the IBM offices); politicians, governors, senators, all

the way up to the President and his Cabinet. Everybody

notwithstanding gets displaced if their manner of earning a living is

the least bit redolent of blame.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

This could be read as rounding up and dealing with people.."removing people" not "removing from office" or "remove from their positions". How poorly written!

LadyShea, may I repost this on Center for Inquiry? And where, in the book, did you find it?

[LadyShea]

It goes on to say that the jobs/positions will be eliminated, not the people, she is right about that. I think that is the passage that the Amazon reviewer must have been referring to

I found it in the chapter on the great transition

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

I think that is the passage that the Amazon reviewer must have been referring to

That's entirely possible, but I still suspect there was once a passage in the book expressly calling for military/police action to keep people in line during the early days of the "Golden Age." peacegirl has scrubbed, added and altered so much content that it's impossible to say what material currently in the book is hers and what material is real-deal Authentic Lessantonian Gibberish. We can only imagine the treasure trove of lunacy that got removed altogether.

Somewhere in this thread ol' Janis vigorously denied removing anything about military action from the Sacred Text. Trouble is, she's a pathological liar. Her denial is at best unconvincing, and given the depth of her pathology, might even be deemed evidence that the opposite is true.

[But]

[davidm]

TheDoc has just ruined it for everyone with his false allegations. He has won! And peacegirl hopes he never finds her again!

[Stephen Maturin]

It's about time someone other than LadyShea and Spacemonkey ruined it for everyone.

[davidm]

I seem to recall you ruined it a time or two for everyone also, buster.