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Old 02-25-2016, 08:21 PM
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Victims of pedophile priests and imams help create more victims with silence.

Note that the ultimate responsibility lies with the victims, but that their parents, as their guardians, are the ones I blame and not the child victims.

I recently watched this disturbing movie and recognize that what it portrays fairly closely what is happenings in reality right now.

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The silence and complicity of the religious are facilitating and colluding in the future assaults on children. Silence or the acceptance of a payoff, in my opinion, is direct collusion with these religious criminals and I see the past victims of these pedophiles as now helping their own assailants create new victims by their silence.

I appreciate that going public is hard, but if victims do not come forward, I see them as helping the priests and imams that are left free to abuse other children.

There are some who will read this and know that, in a real sense, victims or their parents are guilty of helping the pedophile problem continue.

I would urge these victims and their families to step up and do the right thing and return the payoffs and lay charges instead so that we can rid our churches and mosques of these predatory criminals.

Do you agree that silence is just as immoral as the initial crime when victims or their guardian/parents accept payoffs from religions to buy their silence?

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Old 02-25-2016, 09:03 PM
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Do you agree that Gnostic Christian Bishop is a tedious, infantile, humorless, repetitive moron who wants women shared among men as common property according to the writings of some idiot he once read?

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Where do Imams figure in this anyway?
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Cool victim blaming, bro.
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Do you agree that silence is just as immoral as the initial crime when victims or their guardian/parents accept payoffs from religions to buy their silence?
Holy fucking shit.
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Note that the ultimate responsibility lies with the victims, but that their parents, as their guardians, are the ones I blame and not the child victims.
Why does the "ultimate responsibility" lie with the victims? And why would it matter worth a snail's fart whom you "blame" if it did?

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I would urge these victims and their families to step up and do the right thing and return the payoffs and lay charges instead so that we can rid our churches and mosques of these predatory criminals.
Do you really think anybody believes you give the slightest shit about what goes on in mosques? Rhetorical question.
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Old 02-25-2016, 10:58 PM
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Yeah fuck those children for not standing up against their elders. They should learn to speak up even if theyve been taught doing so is a sin and could get them banished or killed. I mean I can speak up just fine on an internet forum and thats like 20x harder than your priest, er than speaking, speaking, to a priest.

Its really easy to tell an armchair activist when their only recommendation is speak up and fight back, almost as if theyve never had to deal or something.
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Do you agree that people who say the ultimate responsibility of victimization lies with the victims is a filthy little turd?

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Especially when said turd writes "note that" as if his claim were an objective fact, and then goes on, immediately contradicting himself, to blame the parents rather than the child victims, whom he just got through saying were "ultimately responsible" ?

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Note that the ultimate responsibility lies with the victims
Goddamn kids, shaking their bubblicious asses right in the faces of those poor priests. Those dudes are only human, after all. When you think about it, the "victims" are actually the perpetrators. :yup:

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I recently watched this disturbing movie and recognize that what it portrays fairly closely what is happenings in reality right now.
Cool story breh.
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I heard we had a new troll.

Welcome to the forum, Bishop.

Edit, nvm just found the Nazi.
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Do keep up, bey.
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Alright, to defend GCB...

I'm thinking that he meant to write

"Not that the ultimate responsibility lies with the victims, but that [sic] their parents, as their guardians, are the ones I blame and not the child victims."

But he's too careless or stupid to note that he changed the entire meaning of the sentence with his typo.
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I dunno. I think that self-contradictory sentence could be exactly what he meant, based on what he's written in the past.
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Cool victim blaming, bro.
Get the quote, or be seen as too stupid to read properly.

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Do you agree that Gnostic Christian Bishop is a tedious, infantile, humorless, repetitive moron who wants women shared among men as common property according to the writings of some idiot he once read?

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Get the information you refer to so I can pin your stupid ears back and show you how to read.

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Where do Imams figure in this anyway?
Clip 2 from "The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan" - YouTube

Most of those boys are kidnaped.

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Do you agree that silence is just as immoral as the initial crime when victims or their guardian/parents accept payoffs from religions to buy their silence?
Holy fucking shit.
Are you at all familiar with the Golden Rule?

How would you apply it from the various players POV in such situations.

Answer that and you will eat your own Holy fucking shit if you have half a brain and apply the greatest amount of compassion in the situation.

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Old 04-13-2016, 12:04 AM
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quote=Gnostic Christian Bishop;1250457]Note that the ultimate responsibility lies with the victims, but that their parents, as their guardians, are the ones I blame and not the child victims.
Why does the "ultimate responsibility" lie with the victims? And why would it matter worth a snail's fart whom you "blame" if it did?
Is the victim not the witness and most important of the people involved?

Yes he is.

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I would urge these victims and their families to step up and do the right thing and return the payoffs and lay charges instead so that we can rid our churches and mosques of these predatory criminals.
Do you really think anybody believes you give the slightest shit about what goes on in mosques? Rhetorical question.
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I am here for issues.

A lot of those here should keep this in mind.

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No, you're here to make sweeping, unsupported statements, and then make snide, disparaging comments when people refuse to accept your faulty premises.
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Yeah fuck those children for not standing up against their elders. They should learn to speak up even if theyve been taught doing so is a sin and could get them banished or killed. I mean I can speak up just fine on an internet forum and thats like 20x harder than your priest, er than speaking, speaking, to a priest.

Its really easy to tell an armchair activist when their only recommendation is speak up and fight back, almost as if theyve never had to deal or something.
Do you really think the parents of victims are that bad. I hope not.

There is a situation where as children, sure they can be intimidated by their parents and other grownups around them. That is why I lay most of the blame on the parents that pimp out their child after the fact of abuse.

But the situation, after the child grown up, where the blame for future victims he must share as he has allowed the perpetrator to run free.

The Golden rule is our best moral concept and most here do not think it should be applied and that should tell you who is in the right moral position.

Watch the movie Spotlight and see how many victims ended up coming forward after thinking about things for a bit.

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There are people here now who say Syrian and Iraqi refugees are cowards who should have joined the army to fight ISIS. It's just...
Those people may be partially correct.

I do not see Syrian and Iraqi refugees as cowards but since we can plainly see that assimilation and integration are not working well at all, suggesting that we train and arm them and send them to be our ground troops instead of using our own ground forces seems like a reasonable idea.

I am sure, given the ghetto and no go zone situation in many countries now, that Syrian and Iraqi refugees might actually prefer to go back and liberate their home countries.

What exactly do you have against that notion?

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How are they failing to integrate?
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