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Old 05-10-2016, 09:53 PM
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Where are all the leftists here who defended dictator Chavez and his successor Maduro? ahahah SOCIALISM is failure , you failed
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:18 PM
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Cite please. I never saw anyone here defend Chavez and Maduro except maybe me, and all I said was they were very popular with the people there. You can't really dispute that, they were and still are very popular with the people.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:21 PM
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When a 'socialist' country fails, it's treated like it's socialism that failed.
When a capitalist country fails, it's treated like it's never capitalism that failed.
When a libertarian country fails, it's... haha just joking, there are no libertarian countries.
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Why/how is Chavez a dictator, in your own words?
How/why is Chavez a socialist, in etc?
Why/how has Venezuela failed?
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Why/how is Chavez a dictator, in your own words?
How/why is Chavez a socialist, in etc?
Why/how has Venezuela failed?
I can touch on this, I have family there. What hit them specifically is this:
Tascón List - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In a nutshell, a petition to recall Chavez in around 2004 was used to disenfranchise the signators. One relative went to work one day and found they'd sacked her, disposed of her personal effects, and seized her equivalent of retirement savings. Government services were no longer available to her or her children.

Chavismo called it 21st century socialism, but it was and remains a kleptocracy pitting a larger mass of very poor against this monolith of 'the rich'. Read: literate people who lost their jobs as electricians, civil engineers, and so on to functionally illiterate party loyalists with predictable results.

You know, exactly how socialism performs in another oil rich nation: Norway. /sarcasm

For those interested, this is a blog I follow on and off to keep abreast of the situation. Needless to say, my relatives who have largely fled the country, are strongly opinionated and I like to just listen, then fact check quietly later.
The Devil's Excrement | Observations focused on the problems of an underdeveloped country, Venezuela, with some serendipity about the world (orchids, techs, science, investments, politics) at large. A famous Venezuelan, Juan Pablo Perez Alfonzo, referred to oil as the devil's excrement. For countries, easy wealth appears indeed to be the sure path to failure. Venezuela might be a clear example of that.

Huh, that link was bigger than I expected, but whatever,nthe page title is an interesting read on its own.
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Hey! No helping!

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€200 qualifies as a failed state around here.

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Wild events in countries with kleptocrat presidents clinging to power with half the country fanatically loyal.
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