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Found this gem via Wonkette:

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U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.

His reason?

Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.

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Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”
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Bonus: Is the dude's lawyer's name rly Orly? Yarly!
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Yguy and Gerome ftw! :laugh:
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Oh noes! Now he will be illegally jailed by an illegal president :ohnoes:
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Orly is a Jewish name. Feminine.

Also, :wtf:
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Oh noes! Now he will be illegally jailed indefinitely detained by an illegal cigarette-smoking girlie-throwing mooslim kenyan president :ohnoes:
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http://www.mudvillegazette.com/032369.html

So, it turns out that:

1) dude is a Freeper
2) he posted correspondence with Taitz about the upcoming lawsuit over at FR back in March
3) he's volunteer reserve, so he didn't actually have to deploy at all, it was his choice, and he apparently made it solely as a pretext for his frivolous lawsuit

Stay classy, Major Cook.
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The government rescinded the order, thus they do not have to prove Obama's eligibility in court.

Interestingly the Department of Defense threaten to pull the contract from the defense contractor that the Major works for unless they fire him.


Why not present him before a court martial?

Why trigger 'whistle blower' laws?
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Links to sources please.
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Links to sources please.
Your favorite web search can find you many sources, but if you give your opinion first based upon what I stated them I will provide the sources for you.
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I don't play the game by your rules. If you can't, or won't, provide evidence in support of your assertions, fine. You are not obligated to do so. However, neither am I, or anyone else, obligated to take your claims seriously if you fail to support them.
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Links to sources please.
Your favorite web search can find you many sources
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Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn't have to go. .... Interestingly the Department of Defense threaten to pull the contract from the defense contractor that the Major works for unless ...
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"DOD RETALIATION AGAINST MR. COOK IS SWIFT AND BRUTAL" (Orly Taitz ...
Jul 15, 2009 ... Major Cook has been fired from his civilian defense contractor .... Hussein's MO hasn't been named but it's known he'll pull out all ... against him anymore: the threat of firing is a one-shot deal. .... With this thinking...which I'm only speculating his government bosses via the contract...might ...
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:49 PM
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Well, that clinches it. I say Freethought Forum is a much more credible source than Freerepublic, because the stuff we pull out of our asses is vastly superior on account of we have better asses. (And as I just pulled that out of my own amazing ass it must be true or at least superior).
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You'd be surprised how quickly a Google listing can lead to a threat of lawsuit for libel.
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Try searching the news.

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

MIDDLE DISTRICT OF GEORGIA

COLUMBUS DIVISION



MAJ. GEN. CAROL DEAN CHILDERS, §

LT. COL. DAVID EARL GRAEF, §

MAJOR STEFAN FREDERICK COOK, §

Plaintiffs, §

§

v. §

§

COLONEL LOUIS B. WINGATE, § Civil Action:

COLONEL WANDA L. GOOD, § 4:09-cv-00082-CDL

COLONEL THOMAS D. MACDONALD, §

DR. ROBERT M. GATES, UNITED §

STATES SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, § Rule 65 Application for

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, de facto § Preliminary Injunction

PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, §

Defendants. §



APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION

Plaintiff Major Stefan Frederick Cook previously received from the Defendants in this cause what appear to be facially valid orders from Colonel Wanda L. Good mobilizing him to active duty with the United States Army in Afghanistan on July 15-18, 2009 (Exhibit A). Plaintiff filed his Original Application for TRO on Friday July 10, 2009, and on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 his deployment to Afghanistan was revoked by order of Colonel Louis B. Wingate, apparently Col. Good’s successor at Army Human Resources Command in St. Louis (Exhibit B). This unexpected action does not in any way, shape or form, “moot” the application for TRO, which is here amended and resubmitted as an Application for Preliminary Injunction, covering both the possibility of future orders and to prevent negative collateral consequences such as retaliation against Major Stefan Frederick Cook (which have already begun) including possible violations of the general Federal and specific military whistleblower acts, as well as the First and Ninth Amendment civil rights of Major Stefan Frederick Cook to challenge the chain of command in the U.S military. It is obvious that this case has the potential to be converted into a class action on behalf of all military servicemen and women who require the means of establishing the legality of their orders with certainty.

This Court has the authority to hear cases which might otherwise be moot so long as they present: 1) an unsettled legal issues of public interest and importance and 2) an issue of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction. Major General Carol Dean Childers retired but subject to lifetime recall, and Lt. Col David Earl Graeff – Medical Surgeon in US Airforce Active Reserves, subject to recall any day, join in this Application for Preliminary Injunction because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.

DOD RETALIATION AGAINST MR. COOK IS SWIFT AND BRUTAL

Moreover, however, retaliation has occurred or begun against Plaintiff Stefan Frederick Cook for the exercise of his First Amendment right to petition for redress of grievances and Plaintiff Cook accordingly here seeks an injunction against the continuance or full implementation of this official governmental retaliation or in the alternative for a writ of mandamus, order to show cause, or rule nisi be issued to the Department of Defense commanding it to cease, cure, or remedy all retaliation against Plaintiff Cook. The circumstances are as follows:

Late on Tuesday afternoon, July 14, 2009, at around about 4:30 pm, Plaintiff Stefan Frederick Cook returned a call to an unknown telephone call from (813) 828-5884 and was told that his services were no longer required in Afghanistan and that he need not report for duty. In addition Plaintiff an e-mail with the revocation order attached from Master Sargent Miguel Matos (Exhibit C). Upon receipt of the revocation, Plaintiff Major Cook called his civilian boss, the CEO of Simtech, Inc., a closely held corporation that does DOD contracting in the general field of information technology/systems integration, at which Plaintiff Major was employed until taking a Military Leave of Absence on Friday July 10, 2009, a senior systems engineer and architect, in preparation for his deployment to Afghanistan. (Plaintiff has five Cisco Systems certifications in information technology dating from 2000 and just recertified in June 2009 for the Cisco Certified Design Expert qualification exam.)

The CEO of Simtech, Inc., Larry Grice, explained to Plaintiff over a series of four conversations within the next two hours, that he had been terminated. Grice told the Plaintiff that he would no longer be welcome in his former position at SOCOM but that Grice wanted to see whether he could find something within the company (Simtech, Inc.) for Cook. The upshot was that at this time Grice did not have anything for Plaintiff to do. Grice told Plaintiff, in essence, that the situation had become “nutty and crazy”, and that Plaintiff would no longer be able to work at his old position.

Grice explained that he had been in touch with Defense Security Services (an agency of the Department of Defense[1], with regional offices located in SOCOM Headquarters at McDill Airforce Base in Tampa, Florida), and that DSS had not yet made a determination whether Plaintiff Major Cook’s clearances would be pulled, but Grice made clear to Cook that it was DSS who had compelled Cook’s termination. Essentially, because of the “nutty and crazy” situation and the communications received from DSS was no longer employable by him at all. So he was not optimistic about getting me another job at the company. Grice also reported to Plaintiff that there was some gossip that “people were disappointed in” the Plaintiff because they thought he was manipulating his deployment orders to create a platform for political purposes. Grice then discussed Plaintiff’s expectation of receiving final paychecks (including accrued leave pay) already owed, without any severance pay, and wished the Plaintiff well.

A federal agency (such as the Department of Defense, acting through the Defense Security Services Agency) clearly violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if it takes or fails to take (or threatens to take or fail to take) a personnel action with respect to any employee or applicant because of any disclosure of information by the employee or applicant that he or she reasonably believes evidences a violation of a law, rule or regulation; gross mismanagement; gross waste of funds; an abuse of authority; or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety. What has happened in the present case of Stefan Frederick Cook is that a federal agency appears to have taken action against Stefan Frederick Cook’s private employer, Simtech, Inc., which is a closely held corporation owned and operated by members of a single family, who are as much victims of the Department of Defense’ heavy-handed interference with Plaintiff Cook’s private-sector employment as is Plaintiff Cook himself.
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Hmmm...I don't see any actual news sources reporting there. I see Taitz making a claim on her blog, and WND and the clowns on Hannity's forum (and a handful of other wingnut forums) running with it, but that's about it.
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Hmmm...I don't see any actual news sources reporting there. I see Taitz making a claim on her blog, and WND and the clowns on Hannity's forum (and a handful of other wingnut forums) running with it, but that's about it.
I just posted the lawsuit.
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I just posted the lawsuit.
Thanks. Because lawsuits* are always a reliably objective source.

* This is not a "lawsuit," by the way. It's an application for a preliminary injunction.
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I dunno, I thought "Here is a document where Taitz makes claim X" was a great response to the objection that no one but Taitz is making claim X.
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"Federal court only has authority [over] actual cases and controversies," Judge Clay Land said. "The entire action is dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction."
Presumably the request for injunction has appeared in the wake of that dismissal. Still, instructive words (from Article III of the U.S. Constitution): "actual cases and controversies." As opposed to fake, manufactured, or Freeper/Hannitoid ones.
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We're not all this crazy. Honest. I swear. No, really.

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I love how people think shouting into the microphone will make their point more valid.
Watching them pledge was pretty funny.
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It's also a bit scary from over here I must admit.
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Don't worry, most of these people are too busy fwding anti-obama e-mails and going to meetings to complain that their neighbor is using unsanctioned grass on their lawn to be much real harm.
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