A revolution in thought

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Spacemonkey has to apologize to me first!

And what am I meant to be apologizing for now, fucktard?

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I did not have to specify that I was well aware he was a compatibilist to prove to you that I already knew this. Your pointing out that he was a compatibilist had zilch to do my knowledge of Dennett’s beliefs. Your reasoning is so off, it’s amazing you don’t see it! You’re making all kinds of assumptions.

'Zilch' accurately describes your knowledge of Dennett's beliefs.

We've been recommending his book on free will to you for years. I bet you still haven't read it.

[Vivisectus]

Oh Hai Gais!

How is the revolution coming along? Has the Serious Marketing started yet? And what about the Facebook experiment, how is that trucking?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

'Zilch' accurately describes your knowledge of Dennett's beliefs.

We've been recommending his book on free will to you for years. I bet you still haven't read it.

I'm not interested in your comments and your nasty name calling. Adios!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Oh Hai Gais!

How is the revolution coming along? Has the Serious Marketing started yet? And what about the Facebook experiment, how is that trucking?

I haven't done much with Facebook. There are not that many facebook pages that discuss determinism in particular. Those are the only types I want on my facebook page. I'm not looking to prove why man's will isn't free. I want to show how this basic understanding can change our world for the better. I could never get that far here. In fact, I never got past page 50 because of the nastiness I had to deal with. I do not want disrespectful individuals on my page who have a bone to pick because they don't like the author's claims regarding the eyes and are trying to do everything in their power to discredit him by creating disgusting lulz. Paradoxically, their misuse of the material is only serving to shine a light on their extreme ignorance.

[Vivisectus]

Right so - business as usual then. Nothing is happening and it is all other people's fault.

[ChuckF]

Thou shall not blame, peacegirl. Thou shall not blame.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Right so - business as usual then. Nothing is happening and it is all other people's fault.

What did I say to you that implied it was anyone’s fault? I know this discovery was ahead of its time. I am blaming no one, not even myself for responding to such ignorance with frustration and anger.

[Vivisectus]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I never got past page 50 because of the nastiness I had to deal with. I do not want disrespectful individuals on my page who have a bone to pick because they don't like the author's claims regarding the eyes and are trying to do everything in their power to discredit him by creating disgusting lulz.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

What did I say to you that implied it was anyone’s fault?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Ignorance is no one’s fault. They know not what they do!

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

How is the revolution coming along? Has the Serious Marketing started yet?

I'm sure there's a big international shindig that must be attended, but after that - and after a year or two or resting up - the Serious Marketing will surely begin in earnest. Fifteen + years of squabbling with strangers on the internet about efferent vision has steeled everyone's favorite day-drinking layabout for Serious Marketing.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Nothing is happening and it is all other people's fault.

Same as it ever was. Hitler was 100% non-blameworthy, but - one of very few forums not to ban peacegirl for her disgraceful shenanigans - is entirely blameworthy. Because of justification.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

It is no one's fault for who they are. Seeing things in total perspective, how can anyone be held ultimately responsible when will is not free?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Same as it ever was. Hitler was 100% non-blameworthy, but - one of very few forums not to ban peacegirl for her disgraceful shenanigans - is entirely blameworthy. Because of justification.

You are displaying your ignorance once again. No one is ultimately blameworthy when looking at things in total perspective. Hitler wasn't responsible for what he did because, looking back in hindsight, he couldn't have done otherwise given his genetics and environment. The people who fought against him did everything they could to stop him. They were also following the laws of their nature which they had no control over. When this natural law becomes a permanent condition of the environment, we will breed no more Hitlers, terrorists, dictators, or tyrants. Wouldn't that make you happy Maturin? This is not about condoning the hurtful things people do; it is about preventing those things from occurring. Stop making it seem as if I am endorsing Hitler's actions. Your mind is twisted, not the book. You didn't even understand Chapter One.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Hitler wasn't responsible for what he did because, looking back in hindsight, he couldn't have done otherwise given his genetics and environment.

Nor does peacegirl think that Timothy McVeigh was responsible for the Oklahoma City Bombing.

And yet she continuously spews blame at me, the True Steward of the Authentic Text, only because of the undeniable, scientific, and mathematical fact that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text, just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 6.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I will blame you all I want, and then some

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I will blame you

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I will continue to blame you Chuck because you are blameworthy!

And to this I am compelled of my own free will to say precisely what Seymour Lessans himself said so clearly in the Authentic Text: thou shall not blame, peacegirl. Thou shall not blame.

[peacegirl]

To all the newcomers, this is to inform you that Chuck and Maturin have no understanding of the book whatsoever. They have taken everything out of context in an effort to discredit the claims being made. This author is the latest target. If you have been here long enough, you know their MO. It's tempting to let others think for you so you don't have to think for yourselves. I hope that doesn't happen here. I'm sure you have seen similar trolls online who hide behind their anonymity. Please use your own judgment, and don't listen to the men behind the curtain.

[Florence Jellem]

Are there newcomers here?

If there are, special note to newcomers:

Peacegirl murdered Adolf, my darling Manchester terrier.



Bully! Murderess! Corruptrix!



#ripAdolf

[specious_reasons]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

To all the newcomers, this is to inform you that Chuck and Maturin have no understanding of the book whatsoever. They have taken everything out of context in an effort to discredit the claims being made. This author is the latest target. If you have been here long enough, you know their MO. It's tempting to let others think for you so you don't have to think for yourselves. I hope that doesn't happen here. I'm sure you have seen similar trolls online who hide behind their anonymity. Please use your own judgment, and don't listen to the men behind the curtain.

To all newcomers: Please do go and sample the first 3 chapters of the book as assembled and Bowdlerized by peacegirl, and if it interests you, please contact Chuck, the Steward of the Authentic Text as written in the author's lifetime for the unedited source material.

While I would be stunned if you, as a newcomer, would find any merit in the sample chapters, the Authentic Text is somewhat more entertaining, if you enjoy a bit of naughty language to go along with the turgid, confused philosophy.

[ChuckF]

I really should warn all the newcomers that peacegirl's book, which she hawks on the Internet for lucre, must be rejected because it is Corrupt. It is her Corrupted Text.

Look instead, newcomers, to the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime.

I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text. Join me in rejecting peacegirl's Corrupted Text, for it is Corrupt. Together we shall interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and we shall do so without blame from peacegirl.

[Florence Jellem]

Welcome, newcomers!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by specious_reasons

To all newcomers: Please do go and sample the first 3 chapters of the book as assembled and Bowdlerized by peacegirl, and if it interests you, please contact Chuck, the Steward of the Authentic Text as written in the author's lifetime for the unedited source material.

While I would be stunned if you, as a newcomer, would find any merit in the sample chapters, the Authentic Text is somewhat more entertaining, if you enjoy a bit of naughty language to go along with the turgid, confused philosophy.

Here is the link: http://www.declineandfallofallevil.o..._11-6-2017.pdf

[Florence Jellem]

Another special note to newcomers: it is expected, in order to participate, that you begin reading this thrad at the beginning -- March 2011 -- and read all 51,221 posts (this one inclusive). Otherwise peacegirl will hold you to be a johnny-come-lately with nothing to say.

Good luck, all you fresh-faced, squeaky-eared Newcomers, and once again,

Now get reading!

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Ignorance is no one’s fault. They know not what they do!

Your ignorance is your fault, and you know exactly what you do.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It is no one's fault for who they are. Seeing things in total perspective...

With efferent eyes and magical teleporting photons!

I can see why a pathological liar would like to pretend that no-one is really at fault for their own behaviour.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You are displaying your ignorance once again. No one is ultimately blameworthy when looking at things in total perspective. Hitler wasn't responsible for what he did because, looking back in hindsight, he couldn't have done otherwise given his genetics and environment. The people who fought against him did everything they could to stop him. They were also following the laws of their nature which they had no control over. When this natural law becomes a permanent condition of the environment, we will breed no more Hitlers, terrorists, dictators, or tyrants. Wouldn't that make you happy Maturin? This is not about condoning the hurtful things people do; it is about preventing those things from occurring. Stop making it seem as if I am endorsing Hitler's actions. Your mind is twisted, not the book. You didn't even understand Chapter One.

ADDED: Interesting speech by Marianne Williamson

Whether you're talking about a corner of our cities; this is as true of the United States as it is true of England or any country, we must see and should see large groups of desperate people as a national security risk. Desperate people do desperate things. Large groups of desperate people either in a corner of our countries or in a corner of our world are national security risks in that they become petri dishes for the emergence of the kind of pathological ideologies of which desperate people are too easily vulnerable. This is why after World War II we did not make the same mistake as we did after Word War I. We sought to rebuild the countries that had been defeated knowing that the attitudes taken after World War I led us to a field that was more of a vulnerability to the emergence of the Nazis in the 1930s.

December 5, 2017: Marianne Williamson Livestream on Livestream