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Old 12-09-2018, 11:19 AM
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Obviously she did it wrong. See women don't actually shoot the rapist themselves. They get a husband, and have kids to instill a sense of worth and value in the husband's eyes. Then the husband feels a need to protect his property and he goes and purchases a gun to protect the family, to go along with the many other guns he has that won't protect families. They ask the man important questions like, "Do you live in a 2 story house to give yourself some wakeup time?" or "Would you like the extended mag with that?" Now the stage is set for the rapist! The rapist creeps in downstairs, being brown they are confused by our civilized things. A remote that controls the TV and you don't even need to get out of the chair? Mind blown!! Your husband wakes up hearing their foreign mutterings about this sounding foreign and only then is it time to kill the rapist as he runs downstairs gun blazing shooting him dead on sight.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:23 PM
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Report reveals 'gross' racial disparity in Toronto policing - BBC News

From the linkThe interim report, released Monday, found a black person is 20 times more likely than a white person to be shot and killed by police.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:07 PM
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"This report is not news to the black community"
Is it really news to anyone?
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:21 AM
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"This report is not news to the black community"
Is it really news to anyone?
Blithe racists maybe?
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:13 PM
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I wasn't surprised that it was happening, but I was surprised by the extent of it, in part because I thought that racism against black people was less pronounced in Canada than it is in the US.

But I have seen lots of statistics about police shootings, and I don't think I've seen any that had a disparity that high.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:07 PM
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There's not a broad stream of anti-black hate here -- not much to fuel it, they're just so rare. So it could be a few things.
  • Mistaken for First Nations/Aborigional. Plausible. We're quite horrible to them.
  • All lumped together: If they count aboriginal as black, that number is again plausible.
  • Statistical effect: Black people are rather rare here.
  • Immigration. There's a lot of pushback against immigrants, and some problematic immigrants.
  • Some sort of concentration where things happen. I know there's a few areas they're more numerous, and it'd be very Canadian to have systemic ghettos we're broadly unaware of.
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:09 PM
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What I'm saying is that that is a HUGE disparity. Way bigger than any I've ever seen for the US, where black people are generally reported to be about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. TWENTY is insane and implausible.

But I looked at the study and that's because the number of police shooting deaths is too small to get accurate statistics from. That number was nine, so the margin of error makes that statistic pretty unreliable. It's still significant, and the rest of the statistics are based on larger numbers, and are thus more reliable, but that one, while shocking, is not.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:00 AM
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9 total?
Thats on avg 3 days in america!
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:00 AM
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What I'm saying is that that is a HUGE disparity. Way bigger than any I've ever seen for the US, where black people are generally reported to be about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. TWENTY is insane and implausible.

But I looked at the study and that's because the number of police shooting deaths is too small to get accurate statistics from. That number was nine, so the margin of error makes that statistic pretty unreliable. It's still significant, and the rest of the statistics are based on larger numbers, and are thus more reliable, but that one, while shocking, is not.

Ergo, Canadian police need to shoot a lot more people so we can get reliable statistics.
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Old 12-14-2018, 11:48 PM
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A privileged, probably-drunk Ivy League white boy caught on video yammering about how he isn't anti-anything, just really really pro-white, comes as no surprise. The deep dive occurs in the replies, where we discovery that the privileged, probably-drunk Ivy League white boy is just speaking an uncomfortable truth, and the camel jock who published the video is the REAL racist.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:49 AM
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you don't think Canadians have evolved enough to be needlessly violent?


more blithe racism.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:50 PM
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America is fucking broken.

This could have gone in erimir's police thread, but since the hospital and particularly their Mengele-cloned lawyer are as implicated and, although the BBC scrupulously avoids the issue, I think we all know that Mr Jackson will turn out to be a gentleman of colour, I'm going to put it here.

Innocent New York man billed $4,600 for police rectal probe - BBC News

From the linkDoctors initially refused to perform the procedure, until advised by a hospital lawyer that Mr Jackson did not have a legal right to refuse. He was forcibly sedated for the examination. After the procedure found no drugs, Mr Jackson was released and said he only learned what doctors had done when he found blood in his underwear.

"I felt tampered with," he told the newspaper.

Upon release, the hospital had a debt collectors' agency pursue Mr Jackson for the medical bill.
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:34 PM
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There's more going on in this than racism, but I'll put it here anyway:



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Old 12-21-2018, 10:37 PM
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The concept of political correctness is way too vague for those results to be trustworthy. That term means very different things to different people. Everyone's heard someone complain about weird things like health and safety regulations being 'politically correct,' and pretty near nobody in the public sphere uses that term in anything but a pejorative sense. Just the term alone is going to generate a negative response, even among those who wouldn't react negatively to the specific things you're assuming.

There are plenty of things I could argue are 'politically correct' that I don't like, like say those 'blue lives matter' flags and people calling 911 on ten year olds walking home from school. Now, I probably wouldn't answer that question that way because of it (I don't do surveys anyway), but the term is nebulous enough that it could encompass plenty of things that aren't what that guy's thinking of.

As far as people thinking they can't really speak their minds anymore, well, they're kind of right. With the context collapse of social media, surveillance capitalism, information overload, and shortening attention spans, saying anything that falls outside some easily recognized black and white perspective is very likely to be misconstrued and misrepresented. You can't really make nuanced arguments when everyone is half-listening just to see if you're on their side or the other one. There's only room for two.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem. Obviously, there is, but surveys like this don't really shed much light on those issues. They do generate page hits, though.
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You can't say "you can't say .... any more" any more.
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So, "Ladders" is still sending me business glurge since my last job search. I received one today, "Don't wear this hairstyle if you want to look professional!"

Said to myself, "I wonder if it's racist?" Yes, yes it was. This was the "soft" racism of explaining in a neutral voice that "smooth hair" is considered a professional look. I'm sorry black people, your natural hair does not look professional - there are experts and studies that prove it.

Unsubscribed - something I should have done a long time ago.
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This was a Kinder Surprise Prize downunder. A mini Donald Trump giving the thumbs up to his balloons.
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