Parents, do your due diligence on vaccination! There are serious risks!!

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Uh oh, did anybody shout anything about advance blame?

Unknown, but word around the campfire has it that pirated audio of the incident includes some hebephrenic hooting about dog eyes and screens of undeniable substance.

[Stephen Maturin]

Here's a bunch of privileged dipshit white women singing We Shall Overcome and talking about how they're the new civil rights movements.

Can you guess what they're on about? I'm pretty sure you can.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I'll just put this here:

NFL Pre-emptively Adds Whatever Bullshit Gronk Hawking To Banned Substance List

[Stephen Maturin]

Oprah Endorses Vaccines Because They May Save Her...

[The Lone Ranger]

Rebecca Watson is a national treasure, by the way.

[Stephen Maturin]

Quacks aplenty, RFK Jr., race baiting, religious nutjobbery, unhinged ranting and raving about conspiracy, total failure ... the anti-vax clown show know as the Harlem Vaccine Forum had it all.

[chunksmediocrites]

Facebook Axed Pro-Vaccine Ads, Let Anti-Vaxxer Conspiracies Slip Through
Thanks a lot, Facebook?

We’ve officially annihilated a second strain of polio. Only one remains
And actual thank yous to science.

[But]

Measles virus infection diminishes preexisting antibodies that offer protection from other pathogens | Science

The toll of measles on the immune system

Many of the deaths attributable to measles virus are caused by secondary infections because the virus infects and functionally impairs immune cells. Whether measles infection causes long-term damage to immune memory has been unclear. This question has become increasingly important given the resurgence in measles epidemics worldwide. Using a blood test called VirScan, Mina et al. comprehensively analyzed the antibody repertoire in children before and after natural infection with measles virus as well as in children before and after measles vaccination. They found that measles infection can greatly diminish previously acquired immune memory, potentially leaving individuals at risk for infection by other pathogens. These adverse effects on the immune system were not seen in vaccinated children.

So much about the idea that a real infection strengthens your immune system.

[Qingdai]

HIV certainly did nothing good for anyone's immune system ever.

[Qingdai]

mumble mumble

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Deadly measles outbreak hits children in Samoa after anti-vaccine fears - The Washington Post

[Stormlight]

Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

Deadly measles outbreak hits children in Samoa after anti-vaccine fears - The Washington Post

Measles outbreak spurred by anti-vaxxers shuts down Samoan government | Ars Technica

48 children dead by now. Well done, peacegirl and friends.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Got my flu jab and autism.

[Stephen Maturin]

It's been nice knowing you, K.

Meanwhile, the New Jersey legislature is considering a bill to do away with vaccine exemptions, including religious exemptions. A bunch of anti-vax nuts showed up at a public hearing to voice opposition, but the committee voted in favor of the bill despite the compelling scientific analysis of a 7-year-old who told committee members that "I love God with my whole heart. He made our immune systems perfect. We take really good care of our bodies because that makes God happy."

A considerable number of anti-vaxxers went to the wrong hearing room, but refused to leave even after being told they were about to hear discussion of a transit bill. Smart move on their parts! The staffers who told them they were in the wrong place were no doubt Big Pharma stooges bent on squelching the free speech rights of concerned parents.

[LarsMac]

I just found out that my daughter is a rabid Anti-Vaxxer.
Her grandkid is severely autistic, and she is convinced that it is from Vaccines. The twist is that it seems the autism was caused by vaccines the doc gave her daughter while she was preggers, rather than vaccines given to the kid.

That's a new twist, I think.
Anyway, I learned to not get into THAT discussion with her and expect rational discourse.

This discussion followed the announcement that Boulder County School system would not allow students to return from the Xmas holiday without proof of Vaccinations.

[Stephen Maturin]

Anti-vaccers confused by decline in measles cases after vaccination campaign in Samoa

[Sock Puppet]

The Samoan people are of hardy stock indeed, since they were able to shrug off the measles epidemic even after having their natural immunity weakened by vaccines.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Thousands of Seattle students told to get vaccinated, or don't come back after winter break

Seattle says, get the jab or get home schooled.

[Stephen Maturin]

I am shocked - SHOCKED - to see that the Trump administration is going after recipients of Social Security Disability Insurance benefits! This could be less-than-ideal news for a certain Trump-supporting former participant in this thread who's been collecting SSDI under false pretenses for a very long time, but hey, it's well worth it to have a bona fide anti-vaxxer in the White House!

Oh wait ... never mind! As seen multiple times in this thread, Trump repeatedly appointed pro-vaxxers to high positions (FDA Commissioner, CDC Director, Surgeon General, etc.) and even appointed a former Eli Lilly president and pharmaceutical industry lobbyist to his cabinet. And then, last April:

"They have to get the shots. The vaccinations are so important. This is really going around now. They have to get their shots."

Donald Trump, anti-vaxxer

As always, one should never pass on an opportunity to point out how successfully Trump trolled the anti-vax idiots.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

This'll piss a few people off

B.C. judge orders vaccinations for 2 boys over their mother's objections - CBC

[Stephen Maturin]

The mother attempted to introduce a report into evidence written by a U.S. doctor who testified in the high-profile case of a Michigan mother who fought for years to keep from vaccinating her young daughter.

But Judge Stella Frame questioned Dr. Toni Lynn Bark's qualifications to speak about immunology, virology or epidemiology as well as her claims to be an expert in "vaccine adversomics."

Hard to believe this is Dr. Bark's first appearance in this here thread. The voir dire in that Michigan case was apparently pretty epic. It's impossible to say who was dumbest and most incompetent, the anti-vaxxer mom, her lawyer or Bark:

Four days earlier, Justice McDonalds had implored the mother’s attorney, Amy Ruby, to produce a medical expert to testify on the issues of vaccines after McDonalds was forced to stop the mother, Lori Matheson, from continuing to testify about expert medical needs.

Two days later, Ruby designated Dr. Bark, just 24 hours before the voir dire. When Dr. Bark took the stand, Ruby began asking her about vaccines. The judge called Ruby to the bench, explained to Ruby that she needed to establish Dr. Bark as an expert, and then took a break to give Ruby time to prepare. When Justice McDonalds returned, Ruby was no better, and neither was the expert.

. . .

When asked by Ruby what her specialty was, Dr. Bark started off on the somewhat the right foot, answering that she was a specialist in “adversomics.” Dr. Bark admitted that it was not a recognized medical specialty, but the term “... was coined by Gregory Poland, one of the most famous vaccinologists.”

Dr. Bark then became argumentative, making a snide comment to opposing counsel, and continuing to talk after opposing counsel raised an objection, leading Justice McDonalds to admonish her. Dr. Bark then started testifying about adverse reactions to vaccinations, rather than trying to establish her expertise.

McDonalds finally lost her patience. “The proper court procedure is not being followed .... it takes not a lot of time to learn how to introduce an expert witness. It hasn’t been done. Read the case law.”

Ruby and Dr. Bark try again. Finally, McDonalds began questioning Dr. Bark directly: “What have you done in the area of adversomics to qualify you as an expert in this area?” “Have you written any articles?”

Dr. Bark responded that yes, she had written an article on adversomics, but didn‘t remember where it was published, or what year. Opposing counsel objected, pointing out that no article was listed on Dr. Bark’s CV.

@"adversomics"

One of the two comments to that article on the Michigan case came from Dorit Rubenstein Reiss, a law professor at U.C. Hastings. Prof. Reiss elaborated:

A. Dr. Bark said "adversonomics" - she did not even pronounce her alleged expertise correctly.

B. Dr. Bark’s article is a letter to the editor on HPV vaccines with no real data, in which she is a middle author.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Did you know that if you go anti-vax hard enough, sometimes you circle all the way back to inventing vaccines? https://t.co/mIZ0Z6t8jJ

— Rich Davis, PhD, D(ABMM), MLS ������ (@richdavisphd) January 15, 2020

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Massive Placebo fan though pic.twitter.com/xjdnEuC23C

— Bethany Black (@BeffernieBlack) January 17, 2020

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Hidden cameras capture misinformation, fundraising tactics used by anti-vaxx movement - CBC

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

A 4-year-old in Colorado died from flu this week. Days before, his mom reached out to Facebook's biggest anti-vaxx group. Members told her not to take the Tamiflu a doctor had prescribed, but give him oils and elderberries and put potatoes in his socks. https://t.co/wHrt1qY898

— Brandy Zadrozny (@BrandyZadrozny) February 6, 2020